Re: What about Vitamin C?

[Guest guest]

Hi, Liz.

When I was having problems with the cancer growing out-of-control, I

went to the ACAM doctors list and called and called doctors on it. I

was even willing to travel out of state if I had to, in order to

receive IV C, but I could not find one ACAM MD who said they'd had good

success with IV C for cancer. The ones who did use it said they used it

as part of " cocktail " with other things, but not to cure cancer.

My own feeling, my own opinion, is that IV C is not a " magic bullet "

for cancer. I think if it was, we'd see LOTS of people talking about

what it did for them.

I have seen research that appears to show IV C is wonderful for ridding

people of cancer, but I have met, in person or on line, NO ONE who can

point to intravenous vitamin C as having rid him or her of cancer. Sure

would be wonderful if it was that easy!

Best wishes,

Elliot

3:16

[Guest guest]

Liz -

I use the Vitamin C/cocktail IVs to support my detox protocol and to

support my immune system. It took me a number of them to get to the

point where I went from being very fatigued after the IV (which

indicates dieoff of a number of things in the body), to where I am now

which is feeling energized after I get them. My docs and I are in

agreement that I use this as immune system support, which helps to

fight the cancer. I get mine weekly or every other week. I was told to

really use this as a cancer-fighting protocol one must do these daily.

>

> It is strange that nobody posted about UV vitamin C treatment for

> cancer by Orthophysician doctors . My friend highly recommended it for

> my mom and it could be used for many health problems.

> Please, if you tried this treatment inform us how it work and if there

> are side effects?

>

> Liz

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, .

How much do the IV treatments cost? As I remember IV vitamin C was not

inexpensive.

Thanks,

Elliot

[Guest guest]

Hi Elliot -

Where I have gotten my IVs the prices range according to dose. Typical

dose/price is:

20 grams Vit C with all added nutrients about $95

40 grams " short " Vit C IV with all added nutrients $125 (administered

over an hour)

50-60 grams " long " Vit C IV with added nutrients $150-$175

(administered almost 2 hours)

Meyer's Cocktail (less about Vit C and more about all nutrients

together) administered over 15 minutes is $50-$60

Some feel the Meyer's is as effective and claim all the high-dose

vitamin c/nutrients leave the body via urine over 8 hours making them

a waste of money - I totally disagree. I can still feel smell the

vitamins coming out of my body for 3 days and as it's killing stuff

off it supports the energy in the body.

Some people can't take all the B vitamins in the IVs. There's other

options available. One of the more promising of them being Dr.

Simoncini's work coming out of Italy. He's a traditional oncologist

who realizes that much of the cancer in our body is related to fungus

- mostly candida. Depending on where the cancer is in the body

determines how/where the IV is administered.The idea is to over the

acidity in the body and more quickly promote alkalinity. He is

promoting sodium bicarb (baking soda) IVs. A very informative site is:

http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/

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> Hi, .

>

> How much do the IV treatments cost? As I remember IV vitamin C was not

> inexpensive.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Elliot

>

[Guest guest]

I had my kids on Vitamin C every Sept - April from age 2 on. This is the

first winter I didn't give my apraxic child C because someone on this list

(maybe ?) mentioned how you shouldn't give C and E together. I had

started him on E in Sept or October this year. I stopped the C. He made

huge gains on E and he never did on the C.

Miche

On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 9:47 PM, rainydev <annedevlinhoag@...> wrote:

> Anyone try vitamin C ? I was telling my Dad about Vitamin E, and he

> was saying that vitamin C also had antioxidant properties, and maybe

> we should try that too ? Just wondering if anyone had thought or

> discussed on vitamin C ? Thanks y'all..

>

> Annie

>

[Guest guest]

Is it no high dose C and E together? The reason I ask is the kids

take a split multi and the C and E and zonc for nighttime is together.

>

> > Anyone try vitamin C ? I was telling my Dad about Vitamin E,

and he

> > was saying that vitamin C also had antioxidant properties, and

maybe

> > we should try that too ? Just wondering if anyone had thought or

> > discussed on vitamin C ? Thanks y'all..

> >

> > Annie

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Here's another thing we can and do give our children that like E is

also an anti-oxidant. These studies are of course in animals -not

people...but for ethical reasons -such as in the case of the last

study I posted about toxins passing the placenta- that's the only way.

Also the following speaks about DHA -but I believe it was momresearch

who just posted about Dr. AJ and she is the one that

taught me about the importance of the other Omega 3 -EPA at the First

Apraxia Conference back in 2001. http://www.cherab.org/news/scientific.html

(and many of us found this out ourselves)

J. Nutr. 135:549-555, March 2005

Nutritional Neurosciences

Chronic Administration of Docosahexaenoic Acid

Ameliorates the Impairment of Spatial Cognition

Learning Ability in Amyloid ß-Infused Rats

Michio Hashimoto*,1, Yoko Tanabe*,{dagger}, Yoshimi

Fujii*, Toshihiko Kikuta**, Hitoshi Shibata** and

Osamu Shido*

* Department of Environmental Physiology, {dagger}

Center for Integrated Research in Science, Shimane

University Faculty of Medicine, Izumo 693-8501, Japan

and ** Department of Life Science and Biotechnology,

Shimane University of Faculty of Life and

Environmental Science, Matsue 690-8504, Japan

1To whom correspondence should be addressed. E-mail:

michio1@....

ABSTRACT

TOP

ABSTRACT

MATERIALS AND METHODS

RESULTS

DISCUSSION

LITERATURE CITED

We investigated whether administration of

docosahexaenoic acid (DHA), a major (n-3) fatty acid

of the brain, ameliorates the impairment of learning

ability in an animal model of Alzheimer's disease

(AD), rats infused with amyloid-ß (Aß) peptide (1-40)

into the cerebral ventricle. Inbred 3rd generation

male rats (20 wk old) fed a fish oil-deficient diet

were randomly divided into 4 groups: a vehicle group,

an Aß peptide-infused group (Aß group), a DHA group,

and an Aß + DHA group. A mini-osmotic pump filled with

Aß peptide or vehicle was implanted in the rats, and

they were tested for learning ability-related

reference and working memory in an 8-arm radial maze.

The rats were then orally fed DHA dissolved in 5% gum

Arabic solution at 300 mg/(kg · d) (DHA and Aß + DHA

groups) or vehicle alone (vehicle and Aß groups) and

tested again for learning ability. DHA administered

for 12 wk significantly reduced the increase in the

number of reference and working memory errors in the

Aß-infused rats, and increased both the

cortico-hippocampal level of DHA and the molar ratio

of DHA/arachidonic acid, suggesting an amelioration of

the impaired spatial cognition learning ability.

Furthermore, DHA suppressed the increases in the

levels of lipid peroxide and reactive oxygen species

in the cerebral cortex and the hippocampus of

Aß-infused rats, suggesting that DHA increases

antioxidative defenses. DHA is thus a possible

therapeutic agent for ameliorating learning

deficiencies due to Alzheimer's disease.

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[Guest guest]

Annie,

Here is some vitamin info on c from the Linus ing Institute. They

have info on vitamins and minerals generally. Another good source is

the Weston Price Foundation. Thing is, it is best to try to find out

what each vitamin and mineral does, what seems excessive or deficient

in your child as observed physicall and behaviorally and then bring

that info to a good doc and/or nutritionist so they can develop an plan

and testing to enable you to get more of what the child needs in and

less of what they need out.

http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/vitamins/vitaminC/

Lastly, all these things interact with one another so going to someone

like that really helps because if you add C for instance, would that

take away or assist something else you do. All very complicated and

individual to the history and biochemistr of the kid in question.

Liz

>

> Anyone try vitamin C ? I was telling my Dad about Vitamin E, and he

> was saying that vitamin C also had antioxidant properties, and maybe

> we should try that too ? Just wondering if anyone had thought or

> discussed on vitamin C ? Thanks y'all..

>

> Annie

>

[Guest guest]

, what kind of gains did you see on Vit. E? I'm starting my son on it

as soon as it arrives. Did you use a specific brand? How much are you giving?

Thanks,

Re: [ ] What about Vitamin C?

I had my kids on Vitamin C every Sept - April from age 2 on. This is the

first winter I didn't give my apraxic child C because someone on this list

(maybe ?) mentioned how you shouldn't give C and E together. I had

started him on E in Sept or October this year. I stopped the C. He made

huge gains on E and he never did on the C.

Miche

On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 9:47 PM, rainydev <annedevlinhoag@...> wrote:

> Anyone try vitamin C ? I was telling my Dad about Vitamin E, and he

> was saying that vitamin C also had antioxidant properties, and maybe

> we should try that too ? Just wondering if anyone had thought or

> discussed on vitamin C ? Thanks y'all..

>

> Annie

>