Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Gabby, I know you have good intentions by sending links that other parents may find useful, however, I would respectfully request that you send links that are actually useful and not hocus pocus. Surely you don't believe that cinnamon and honey really can cure hearing loss as stated by the message you posted below (towards the end of article). Hearing loss caused by sensorineural damage cannot be cured by honey and cinnamon. While I am in agreement that there are some holistic and alternative treatments that are valid and effective, links and articles such as those below and especially the other one sent on brain scans performed on 30 second videos/pictures are really just plain silly nonsense. I am not sure what you hope to gain by sharing that kind of stuff here since it has nothing to do with apraxia, and nothing to do with important info/alerts for parents regarding our children. Messages like this just clog up this list group. Again, I am not flaming you, I am asking you to weed through your list of links to share to those that are actually real and effective. Lori > > http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=119565 > > CINNAMON AND HONEY...THE MIRACLE CURE > Posted By: Seawitch > Date: Monday, 25 February 2008, 3:15 p.m. Cinnamon and Honey the Miracle cure > http://www.fourwind s10.com/siterun_ data/health/ holistic_ alternative_ medicine/ news.php? q=1203893237 > Bet the drug companies won't like this one getting around.} > [Facts on honey and cinnamon: It is found that a mixture of honey and cinnamon cures most diseases. Honey is produced in most of the countries of the world. Scientists of today also accept honey as a " Ram Ban " (very effective) medicine for all kinds of diseases. Honey can be used without any side effects for any kind of diseases. > Today's science says that even though honey is sweet, if taken in the right dosage as a medicine, it does not harm diabetic patients. Weekly World News, a magazine in Canada, in its issue dated 17 January, 1995 has given the following list of diseases that can be cured by honey and cinnamon as researched by western scientists: > HEART DISEASES: > Make a paste of honey and cinnamon powder, apply on bread, instead of jelly and jam, and eat it regularly for breakfast. It reduces the cholesterol in the arteries and saves the patient from heart attack. Also those who have already had an attack, if they do this process daily, they are kept miles away from the next attack. Regular use of the above process relieves loss of breath and strengthens the heart beat. In America and Canada, various nursing homes have treated patients successfully and have found that as you age, the arteries and veins lose their flexibility and get clogged; honey and cinnamon revitalize the arteries and veins. > ARTHRITIS: > Arthritis patients may take daily, morning, and night, one cup of hot water with two spoons of honey and one small teaspoon of cinnamon powder. If taken regularly even chronic arthritis can be cured. In a recent research conducted at the Copenhagen University, it was found that when the doctors treated their patients with a mixture of one tablespoon honey and half teaspoon cinnamon powder before breakfast, they found that within a week, out of the 200 people so treated, practically 73 patients were totally relieved of pain, and within a month, mostly all the patients who could not walk or move around because of arthritis started walking without pain. > BLADDER INFECTIONS: > Take two tablespoons of cinnamon powder and one teaspoon of honey in a glass of lukewarm water and drink it. It destroys the germs in the bladder. > TOOTHACHE: > Make a paste of one teaspoon of cinnamon powder and five teaspoons of honey and apply on the aching tooth. This may be applied three times a day until the tooth stops aching. > COLDS: > Those suffering from common or severe colds should take one tablespoon lukewarm honey with 1/4 spoon cinnamon powder daily for three days. This process will cure most chronic cough, cold, and clear the sinuses. > UPSET STOMACH: > Honey taken with cinnamon powder cures stomach ache and also clears stomach ulcers from the root. > GAS: > According to the studies done in India and Japan, it is revealed that if honey is taken with cinnamon powder the stomach is relieved of gas. > IMMUNE SYSTEM: > Daily use of honey and cinnamon powder strengthens the immune system and protects the body from bacteria and viral attacks. Scientists have found that honey has various vitamins and iron in large amounts. Constant use of honey strengthens the white blood corpuscles to fight bacteria and viral diseases. > INDIGESTION: > Cinnamon powder sprinkled on two tablespoons of honey taken before food relieves acidity and digests the heaviest of meals. > INFLUENZA: > A scientist in Spain has proved that honey contains a natural ingredient which kills the influenza germs and saves the patient from flu. > LONGEVITY: > Tea made with honey and cinnamon powder, when taken regularly, arrests the ravages of old age. Take four spoons of honey, one spoon of cinnamon powder and three cups of water and boil to make like tea. Drink 1/4 cup, three to four times a day. It keeps the skin fresh and soft and arrests old age. Life spans also increases and even a 100 year old, starts performing the chores of a 20-year-old. > PIMPLES: > Three tablespoons of honey and one teaspoon of cinnamon powder paste. Apply this paste on the pimples before sleeping and wash it next morning with warm water. If done daily for two weeks, it removes pimples from the root. > SKIN INFECTIONS: > Applying honey and cinnamon powder in equal parts on the affected parts cures eczema, ringworm and all types of skin infections. > WEIGHT LOSS: > Daily in the morning one half hour before breakfast on an empty stomach and at night before sleeping, drink honey and cinnamon powder boiled in one cup of water. If taken regularly, it reduces the weight of even the most obese person. Also, drinking this mixture regularly does not allow the fat to accumulate in the body even though the person may eat a high calorie diet. > CANCER: > Recent research in Japan and Australia has revealed that advanced cancer of the stomach and bones have been cured successfully. Patients suffering from these kinds of cancer should daily take one tablespoon of honey with one teaspoon of cinnamon powder for one month three times a day. > FATIGUE: > Recent studies have shown that the sugar content of honey is more helpful rather than! than being detrimental to the strength of the body. Senior citizens, who take honey and cinnamon powder in equal parts, are more alert and flexible. Dr. Milton, who has done research, says that a half tablespoon of honey taken in a glass of water and sprinkled with cinnamon powder, taken daily after brushing and in the afternoon at about 3:00 P.M. when the vitality of the body starts to decrease, increases the vitality of the bo dy within a week. > BAD BREATH: > People of South America, first thing in the morning, gargle with one teaspoon of honey and cinnamon powder mixed in hot water, so their breath stays fresh throughout the day. > HEARING LOSS: > Daily morning and night honey and cinnamon powder, taken in equal parts restore hearing. > Remember when we were kids? We had toast with real butter and cinnamon sprinkled on it! } ] > This is a message my friend sent me > www.matchdoctor.com/blog_82010/cinamon_and_honey_the_miracle_cure.html > > > > Love, Gabby. :0) > http://stemcellforautism.blogspot.com/ > > " I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely neurotypical. Even God had some Autistic moments, which is why the planets all spin. " ~ Jerry Newport > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Cinnamon and honey provided health benefits long before prescriptions became available. Cinnamon has antibacterial properties. I can see how the hearing loss improvement could occur as anyone who regained hearing loss after antibiotic treatment can attest to. I am not saying run out and get cinnamon and honey over seeing your doc but if you are like me, and can no longer tolerate antibiotics, it is nice to have options. I am thankful for the post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 I too appreciate the post. Thank you. Yvette A. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 10, 2008, at 7:33 AM, " ilizzy03 " <lizlaw@...> wrote: > Cinnamon and honey provided health benefits long before prescriptions > became available. Cinnamon has antibacterial properties. I can see how > the hearing loss improvement could occur as anyone who regained > hearing > loss after antibiotic treatment can attest to. I am not saying run out > and get cinnamon and honey over seeing your doc but if you are like > me, > and can no longer tolerate antibiotics, it is nice to have options. I > am thankful for the post. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Actually, I used this post yesterday because had some stomach pain.... no pain remedy in the cupboard so I tried the honey and cinnimen drink. It worked great! Personally, I like these posts and I do read them. Janice [sPAM]Re: [ ] Re: CINNAMON AND HONEY...THE MIRACLE CURE I too appreciate the post. Thank you. Yvette A. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 10, 2008, at 7:33 AM, " ilizzy03 " <lizlaw@...> wrote: > Cinnamon and honey provided health benefits long before prescriptions > became available. Cinnamon has antibacterial properties. I can see how > the hearing loss improvement could occur as anyone who regained > hearing > loss after antibiotic treatment can attest to. I am not saying run out > and get cinnamon and honey over seeing your doc but if you are like > me, > and can no longer tolerate antibiotics, it is nice to have options. I > am thankful for the post. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Hearing loss from damage to the cilia in the ear is not possible. There is current research with birds to try to grow back new cilia in damaged cochlea but cinnamon and honey cannot cure nerve deafness. I should know, I have hearing loss myself which is hereditary in nature, thus I can tell you for a fact that cinnamon/honey curing hearing loss is just plain ridiculous and this kind of posting does not belong here on this apraxia related board. Sorry to come across as being blunt, but evidence based information should be posted on here for parents who can actually do something for their kids. > > Cinnamon and honey provided health benefits long before prescriptions > became available. Cinnamon has antibacterial properties. I can see how > the hearing loss improvement could occur as anyone who regained hearing > loss after antibiotic treatment can attest to. I am not saying run out > and get cinnamon and honey over seeing your doc but if you are like me, > and can no longer tolerate antibiotics, it is nice to have options. I > am thankful for the post. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Then those of you who like these types of postings should subscribe to holistic/alternative treaments and such types of links/messages should be shared there and not here. Sorry, again, this is an APRAXIA and related issues group!!! > > > Cinnamon and honey provided health benefits long before prescriptions > > became available. Cinnamon has antibacterial properties. I can see how > > the hearing loss improvement could occur as anyone who regained > > hearing > > loss after antibiotic treatment can attest to. I am not saying run out > > and get cinnamon and honey over seeing your doc but if you are like > > me, > > and can no longer tolerate antibiotics, it is nice to have options. I > > am thankful for the post. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Who knows maybe honey and cinnamon helps apraxia, no one knows for sure, lets all be open minded, if you don't like the posts erase and move on. Jen **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp & icid=aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Yep! I truly appreciate these posts. In fact just yesterday, I was told my pancreas was working overtime, per the Electrodermal Screening and given a vitamin combination wtih what else...Cinnamon in it! Keep em Coming! Colleen Re: [ ] Re: CINNAMON AND HONEY...THE MIRACLE CURE Actually, I used this post yesterday because had some stomach pain.... no pain remedy in the cupboard so I tried the honey and cinnimen drink. It worked great! Personally, I like these posts and I do read them. Janice [sPAM]Re: [ ] Re: CINNAMON AND HONEY...THE MIRACLE CURE I too appreciate the post. Thank you. Yvette A. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 10, 2008, at 7:33 AM, " ilizzy03 " <lizlawoptonline (DOT) <mailto:lizlaw%40optonline.net> net> wrote: > Cinnamon and honey provided health benefits long before prescriptions > became available. Cinnamon has antibacterial properties. I can see how > the hearing loss improvement could occur as anyone who regained > hearing > loss after antibiotic treatment can attest to. I am not saying run out > and get cinnamon and honey over seeing your doc but if you are like > me, > and can no longer tolerate antibiotics, it is nice to have options. I > am thankful for the post. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Can you not just DELETE the messages that she sends if you dislike them so much? I think several of us have stated over and over that these sort of emails interest them BECAUSE of their child being Apraxic and wanting to find natural or homeopathic methods to help them. I see that her messages are perfectly fine and on topic as well. If someone doesn't like them-- the delete button should be used, because the benefits to many others here far outweighs the negatives to the few Becky In a message dated 12/10/2008 6:57:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, lorirosen@... writes: Then those of you who like these types of postings should subscribe to holistic/alternativholistic/alternativ<WBR>e treaments grou links/messages should be shared there and not here. Sorry, again, this is an APRAXIA and related issues group!!! **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp & icid=aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Seeramona, There really is no place for such rude behaviour here. I have no issue with you and kindly request that you not address me in this type of tone. I write " continuously " on this board on the subject of apraxia and dyspraxia and have a LITANY of posts that detail many, many exercises, therapies that absolutely address Apraxia and dyspraxia! Sometimes I suspect that there are lurkers on this board who only chime in when they have a rude or hostile comment to release and little else! Get some manners please or please do not respond to my posts. Janice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 I don't feel that people just chime in to make a rude comment, who has time to do that. With all the daily things people have to do in theie lives and to take care of their familles that seems like a fairly big waste of time. I think the thing is to be more open minded. Just because a post is not completely about apraxia doesn't mean others don't have an interest in it. It is an open board, no one said you cannot post things about other disorders, since apraxia is common with many other issues for these kids. Everyone has the right to express their feelings. I remember once I was told I was too touchy and sensitive, so I got over it, take to heart the person responding, if you don't believe it or agree with it, just ERASE. I think more time is spent spewing defensive comments back at other people that didn't even mean to be rude in the first place. Jen **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp & icid=aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Again, facutal information on electrodermal screening that you used,with no relevance to apraxia and possibly dangerous to our children when inappropriate or misdagnosis of illness. Again, needs to be posted to a different group, not here. Scientific Study In a double-blind study, British researchers compared its results with a Vegatest device to those of conventional skin-prick testing in 30 volunteers, half of whom had previously reacted positively for allergy to cat dander or house dust mite. Each participant was tested with 6 items by each of 3 operators in 3 separate sessions, a total of 54 tests per participant. The researchers concluded that Vegatesting does not correlate with skin prick testing and so should not be used to diagnose these allergies. The authors estimated that more than 500 EDS devices were being used in the United Kingdom to assess sensitivity to potential allergens [8]. The Australian College of Allergy has concluded that " Vega testing is a technique of diagnosis without scientific basis. " [9] In 1997, a biomedical engineer found that placing ampoules in the honeycomb of a Vegatest I device did not affect the device's readings [10]. This is not surprising, because glass is not an electrical conductor. Government Regulation The FDA classifies " devices that use resistance measurements to diagnose and treat various diseases " as Class III devices, which require FDA approval prior to marketing. In 1986, an FDA official informed me that the FDA Center for Devices and Radiological Health had determined that the Dermatron and Accupath 1000 were diagnostic devices that posed a " significant risk. " [11] No such device can be legally marketed in the United States for diagnostic or treatment purposes. A few companies have obtained 510(k) clearance (not approval) by telling the FDA that their devices will be used for biofeedback or to measure skin resistance, but this does not entitle them to market the devices for other purposes. EAV devices are not biofeedback devices. Biofeedback is a relaxation technique that uses an electronic device that continuously signals pulse rate, muscle tension, or other body function by tone or visual signal. In biofeedback, the signal originates and is influenced by the patient. In EAV, the signal is influenced by how hard the operator presses the probe against the patient's skin. (Pressure makes the electric current flow more easily between the device to the patient's skin.) The now-defunct International Academy of Bioenergetic Practitioners encouraged device purchasers to bill insurance companies using biofeedback codes [12]. I believe, however, that doing this could result in prosecution for insurance fraud. The FDA has banned importation of EAV devices into the United States and warned or prosecuted a few marketers [13] Foreign and state regulatory agencies have also taken a few actions [13]. However, no systematic effort has been made to drive them from the marketplace. As a result, these bogus devices are being used by many chiropractors, acupuncturists, dentists, " holistic " physicians, veterinarians, self-styled " nutritionists, " and various unlicensed individuals . The most common use is for prescribing homeopathic products. They are also used to determine " allergies, " detect " nutrient deficiencies, " and locate alleged problems in teeth that contain amalgam ( " silver " ) fillings. Significant Risks EAV devices pose several serious risks. The transmittal of false or misleading health information can cause emotional harm, a false sense of security, or a false set of beliefs that can lead to unwise decisions. During the past ten years, more than 200 people have told me about their experiences with EAV practitioners. In most cases, they or someone they knew wasted hundreds (or even thousands) of dollars for the test and recommended treatment. In some cases, the person tested became very frightened and wound up undergoing expensive medical tests that showed that the diagnosed conditions were not present. Unnecessary follow-up procedures can also be a serious problem. I know of several patients who had healthy teeth extracted after being misdiagnosed with an EAV device. In another case, a man who consulted a physician about rectal bleeding and abdominal cramps was examined only with a Dermatron and told that his colon was fine. Unfortunately, the man had colon cancer—which was not diagnosed until at least seven months later when he consulted another doctor. Two others I know about had advanced cancers were erroneously told they were cancer-free. One of them was sold 33 products to get rid of " parasites " and other nonexistent problems. One victim who tried to get a refund was told that the products had been electrically specifically modified for her and could not be used for anyone else. The strangest report I have received came from a parent who, after reading an earlier version of this article, telephoned to described how his five-year-old daughter had been tested by an unlicensed practitioner. When the child became restless, the test was continued by probing the parent's hand while the parent held the child. The parent also noted that the practitioner appeared to manipulate the results (seeking a " 50 " reading on the device) by moistening or drying the child's finger while testing to select the appropriate remedy. from http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/electro.html and http://www.cancer.org/docroot/ETO/content/ETO_5_3X_Electrodermal_Screening.asp What is the evidence? Available scientific evidence does not support electrodermal screening (galvanic skin response) as a reliable aid in diagnosis or treatment of cancer or other illness. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) requires that any device that is used to diagnose or treat diseases be proven effective before it can be marketed. None of these devices has earned FDA approval for diagnostic use, although several are registered as " galvanic skin response detection devices. " The FDA has warned several manufacturers to stop making false claims about diagnosis, and has banned some devices from being imported. Various licensing boards in the US have disciplined licensed practitioners who have used electrodermal screening for diagnosis or treatment selection. In spite of all this, the devices are still frequently advertised and promoted as diagnostic tools. Are there any possible problems or complications? Electrodermal screening itself is relatively safe, although people with implanted pacemakers should avoid electrical current. However, misdiagnosis and improper treatment may cause problems. For example, people have had healthy teeth removed based on recommendations from this type of screening. One man was told he did not have cancer, when in fact, he did. His treatment was delayed for several months because of misinformation. Relying on this type of treatment while avoiding or delaying conventional medical care may have serious health consequences. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 I think we're seeing this more and more, and it's quite frustrating. I see these posts that say something like " I just don't have TIME for all these posts that are off-topic " and I just want to laugh-- because it's usually someone with 1-2 kids who's saying this, and it's the LAST thing you say to a mom to 8 who has 2 special needs kids and who homeschools! LOL bek In a message dated 12/11/2008 9:14:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, jscott@... writes: Sometimes I suspect that there are lurkers on this board who only chime in when they have a rude or hostile comment to release and little else! **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp & icid=aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 yes-- but I think you'd be surprised just how many people out there really DO just this! Becky In a message dated 12/11/2008 1:42:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jennyjudy@... writes: I don't feel that people just chime in to make a rude comment, who has time to do that. With all the daily things people have to do in theie lives and to take care of their familles that seems like a fairly big waste of time. **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp & icid=aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 But this is where you would be incorrect in what you're saying. I believe that there have been people here who HAVE used the Electrodermal screening *WITH RELEVANCE TO THEIR CHILD's APRAXIA In a message dated 12/11/2008 9:24:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, lorirosen@... writes: Again, facutal information on electrodermal screening that you used,with no relevance to apraxia and possibly dangerous to our children when inappropriate or misdagnosis of illness. Again, needs to be posted to a different group, not here. **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp & icid=aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 There are many techniques that we moms who have 'successfully' recovered our apraxic children that we have used that are not considered mainstream. Fish oils, special diets, electrodermal screening, homeopathy, chelation, neurodevelopmental therapy, listening programs to stimulate the ears and auditory channels, work on sequential processing, HBOT therapy, etc. etc. I note that you took one post of mine with regards to electodermal testing and used it as a basis for scorn..... I myself have called it 'voodoo' science that worked for us! I still don't understand why or how but I am not the only person on this board or other boards who have used it with incredible success. What about all of the posts that I have submitted in the past that detail core body exercises, tongue exercises and hand exercises? Those items have no 'proof' associated with them..... but we all know that they work! The list goes on and on. I did 9.5 years of mainstream 'system' speech with few results. If I had just stuck to that premise, my son would still be stuck in special education and not speaking clearly, articulately nor proficiently today. He'd still be using 2-3 word phrases! Today, my son gets all A's and B's in school, has many friends and is considered a 'regular' guy.... we are quickly making gains in his hands via continued core body work, working his visual motor systems along with the supplementation of piracetam. HE is recovering via a combonation of biomed and therapy..... and so are many like him! How is mainstream only working for you? Because it didn't do much for us! I don't see many on this board or other boards who actually recover their children from dyspraxia/apraxia without doing some biomed.... at the very least in the form of fish oils and some with this along with dietary changes. Sticking to only mainstream therapy doesn't provide recovery as far as I can see. But this is just my observation and humble opinion after reading thousands of posts from other moms. The health of our children plays a HUGE role in their apraxia. Hypotonia, auditory tonal processing issues, food allergies and sensitivities as well as chemical sensitivities are of paramount importance. Addressing the issues of the immune system which is often the root cause of the problem DOES help the child regain lost function. With my son in particular, his apraxia is resolved but he continues to have issues with nasal voice production. Guess what? When we do a couple of saline washes in his nose or we use Mucostop, this clears right up! The ENT was of no assistance here. It has taken me many, many, many years to realize that what I actually had was a 'sick' child and the apraxia, dyspraxia were actually 'symptoms' of illness. They were a result of a medical problem which adversely affected his body.... not a manifestation by itself. I couldn't heal my son from dyspraxia and apraxia without addressing the underlying root causes. The body is a whole, functioning enterprise and while perhaps some of these posts could be labled OT, they are helpful to some and don't deserve scorn or ridicule. Anything that helps the body and the immune system is right on target for many of our children. When you actually do the labwork and the physiological testing, you discover this and realize that our kids definately have some major health issues. This is WHY vitamin E and the fish oils help. This is WHY addressing diet and food intolerances help. This is WHY addressing candida, yeast, bacteria, parasites and other 'nasty' items do help the child. They are not in themselves the recovery but they help the child function to optimal levels..... clear out the blocked nasal and auditory passageways, stimulate those passageways intensely, do the oral motor therapy..... and low and behold, baby step by baby step..... normal function begins to emerge for many children. If you don't want to receive information that others find in their research that they believe others might enjoy, then press the delete key. Some of us do find this information pertinent and useful to helping our kids and their immune systems..... and thus affecting their apraxia. If you feel that your email is getting 'clogged' then why don't you change your system to digest mode? That way you can choose what to read and what not to read. I do caution that you may actually learn something from those that have been there and do actually have recovered or recovering kids. Try to open up your horizon a bit because you never know what you may find that could help your child. I never in a million years associated food intolerances, vitamin deficiencies or a compromised immune system with my son's apraxia..... but in the end it turned out to be true! By the way, those at QuackWatch are Quacks themselves! Anyone who has read their stuff over the years and has half a brain has learned that they are full of 'it'. Just my humble opinion. You should read what they say about chiropractors! They are just a bunch of fear mongerers and their stuff is not worth the time of day. Note that cinnamon helps greatly with the control of blood glucose levels and thus does have therapeutic affects for the body. The diabetic world has known this for many, many years. Some of our best health sollutions come from food rather then a pill! Janice [sPAM][ ] Re: CINNAMON AND HONEY...THE MIRACLE CURE Again, facutal information on electrodermal screening that you used,with no relevance to apraxia and possibly dangerous to our children when inappropriate or misdagnosis of illness. Again, needs to be posted to a different group, not here. Scientific Study In a double-blind study, British researchers compared its results with a Vegatest device to those of conventional skin-prick testing in 30 volunteers, half of whom had previously reacted positively for allergy to cat dander or house dust mite. Each participant was tested with 6 items by each of 3 operators in 3 separate sessions, a total of 54 tests per participant. The researchers concluded that Vegatesting does not correlate with skin prick testing and so should not be used to diagnose these allergies. The authors estimated that more than 500 EDS devices were being used in the United Kingdom to assess sensitivity to potential allergens [8]. The Australian College of Allergy has concluded that " Vega testing is a technique of diagnosis without scientific basis. " [9] In 1997, a biomedical engineer found that placing ampoules in the honeycomb of a Vegatest I device did not affect the device's readings [10]. This is not surprising, because glass is not an electrical conductor. Government Regulation The FDA classifies " devices that use resistance measurements to diagnose and treat various diseases " as Class III devices, which require FDA approval prior to marketing. In 1986, an FDA official informed me that the FDA Center for Devices and Radiological Health had determined that the Dermatron and Accupath 1000 were diagnostic devices that posed a " significant risk. " [11] No such device can be legally marketed in the United States for diagnostic or treatment purposes. A few companies have obtained 510(k) clearance (not approval) by telling the FDA that their devices will be used for biofeedback or to measure skin resistance, but this does not entitle them to market the devices for other purposes. EAV devices are not biofeedback devices. Biofeedback is a relaxation technique that uses an electronic device that continuously signals pulse rate, muscle tension, or other body function by tone or visual signal. In biofeedback, the signal originates and is influenced by the patient. In EAV, the signal is influenced by how hard the operator presses the probe against the patient's skin. (Pressure makes the electric current flow more easily between the device to the patient's skin.) The now-defunct International Academy of Bioenergetic Practitioners encouraged device purchasers to bill insurance companies using biofeedback codes [12]. I believe, however, that doing this could result in prosecution for insurance fraud. The FDA has banned importation of EAV devices into the United States and warned or prosecuted a few marketers [13] Foreign and state regulatory agencies have also taken a few actions [13]. However, no systematic effort has been made to drive them from the marketplace. As a result, these bogus devices are being used by many chiropractors, acupuncturists, dentists, " holistic " physicians, veterinarians, self-styled " nutritionists, " and various unlicensed individuals . The most common use is for prescribing homeopathic products. They are also used to determine " allergies, " detect " nutrient deficiencies, " and locate alleged problems in teeth that contain amalgam ( " silver " ) fillings. Significant Risks EAV devices pose several serious risks. The transmittal of false or misleading health information can cause emotional harm, a false sense of security, or a false set of beliefs that can lead to unwise decisions. During the past ten years, more than 200 people have told me about their experiences with EAV practitioners. In most cases, they or someone they knew wasted hundreds (or even thousands) of dollars for the test and recommended treatment. In some cases, the person tested became very frightened and wound up undergoing expensive medical tests that showed that the diagnosed conditions were not present. Unnecessary follow-up procedures can also be a serious problem. I know of several patients who had healthy teeth extracted after being misdiagnosed with an EAV device. In another case, a man who consulted a physician about rectal bleeding and abdominal cramps was examined only with a Dermatron and told that his colon was fine. Unfortunately, the man had colon cancer-which was not diagnosed until at least seven months later when he consulted another doctor. Two others I know about had advanced cancers were erroneously told they were cancer-free. One of them was sold 33 products to get rid of " parasites " and other nonexistent problems. One victim who tried to get a refund was told that the products had been electrically specifically modified for her and could not be used for anyone else. The strangest report I have received came from a parent who, after reading an earlier version of this article, telephoned to described how his five-year-old daughter had been tested by an unlicensed practitioner. When the child became restless, the test was continued by probing the parent's hand while the parent held the child. The parent also noted that the practitioner appeared to manipulate the results (seeking a " 50 " reading on the device) by moistening or drying the child's finger while testing to select the appropriate remedy. from http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/electro.html and http://www.cancer.org/docroot/ETO/content/ETO_5_3X_Electrodermal_Screening.asp What is the evidence? Available scientific evidence does not support electrodermal screening (galvanic skin response) as a reliable aid in diagnosis or treatment of cancer or other illness. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) requires that any device that is used to diagnose or treat diseases be proven effective before it can be marketed. None of these devices has earned FDA approval for diagnostic use, although several are registered as " galvanic skin response detection devices. " The FDA has warned several manufacturers to stop making false claims about diagnosis, and has banned some devices from being imported. Various licensing boards in the US have disciplined licensed practitioners who have used electrodermal screening for diagnosis or treatment selection. In spite of all this, the devices are still frequently advertised and promoted as diagnostic tools. Are there any possible problems or complications? Electrodermal screening itself is relatively safe, although people with implanted pacemakers should avoid electrical current. However, misdiagnosis and improper treatment may cause problems. For example, people have had healthy teeth removed based on recommendations from this type of screening. One man was told he did not have cancer, when in fact, he did. His treatment was delayed for several months because of misinformation. Relying on this type of treatment while avoiding or delaying conventional medical care may have serious health consequences. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Oh, Janice, THANK YOU for this posting! I saved it to go through all of the techniques you've listed with a fine toothed comb (if and when my 3 yr old sleeps) because we're still just getting our ducks in a row as to how to help him. I want to try everything I possibly can for that is drug-free. I am VERY grateful for these postings, including this cinnamon and honey one. I am mostly a lurker - don't care for that term, though, because it makes me think of someone plotting something - but I DO learn a lot and try to apply it to . So thanks. I am not sure why skipping a posting that one does not care to read is such an issue. If anyone does not agree or does not wish to try something, no one is going to force them. But lots of people appear to want these kinds of topics, including me. It's a matter of choice. Skimming the posting or topic isn't that time consuming - and believe me, I have very little time online and I skim quite often. I often wonder why the few sometimes control, or try to control, the many - not just in this instance, but in everyday life. I am going to look for the group that addresses homeopathic treatments for apraxia. I don't know why I haven't come across that before, but I'm glad for the suggestion, regardless of the manner in which it was delivered. So I hope everyone on this board will continue to post their findings, discoveries, new therapies, even theories because trying new things is the only thing that leads to change and progress. All of us here need one another's perspectives and experiences. If reiterating the same information was all this board, and topic, was all about, we'd never grow in our knowledge of what our kids need and how to help them. PS My MIL is doing the cinnamon and honey tea for her cold - she's actually better after 2 days. > > There are many techniques that we moms who have 'successfully' recovered our apraxic children that we have used that are not considered mainstream. Fish oils, special diets, electrodermal screening, homeopathy, chelation, neurodevelopmental therapy, listening programs to stimulate the ears and auditory channels, work on sequential processing, HBOT therapy, etc. etc. I note that you took one post of mine with regards to electodermal testing and used it as a basis for scorn..... I myself have called it 'voodoo' science that worked for us! I still don't understand why or how but I am not the only person on this board or other boards who have used it with incredible success. > > What about all of the posts that I have submitted in the past that detail core body exercises, tongue exercises and hand exercises? Those items have no 'proof' associated with them..... but we all know that they work! > > The list goes on and on. I did 9.5 years of mainstream 'system' speech with few results. If I had just stuck to that premise, my son would still be stuck in special education and not speaking clearly, articulately nor proficiently today. He'd still be using 2-3 word phrases! Today, my son gets all A's and B's in school, has many friends and is considered a 'regular' guy.... we are quickly making gains in his hands via continued core body work, working his visual motor systems along with the supplementation of piracetam. HE is recovering via a combonation of biomed and therapy..... and so are many like him! How is mainstream only working for you? Because it didn't do much for us! I don't see many on this board or other boards who actually recover their children from dyspraxia/apraxia without doing some biomed.... at the very least in the form of fish oils and some with this along with dietary changes. Sticking to only mainstream therapy doesn't provide recovery as far as I can see. But this is just my observation and humble opinion after reading thousands of posts from other moms. > > The health of our children plays a HUGE role in their apraxia. Hypotonia, auditory tonal processing issues, food allergies and sensitivities as well as chemical sensitivities are of paramount importance. Addressing the issues of the immune system which is often the root cause of the problem DOES help the child regain lost function. > > With my son in particular, his apraxia is resolved but he continues to have issues with nasal voice production. Guess what? When we do a couple of saline washes in his nose or we use Mucostop, this clears right up! The ENT was of no assistance here. > > It has taken me many, many, many years to realize that what I actually had was a 'sick' child and the apraxia, dyspraxia were actually 'symptoms' of illness. They were a result of a medical problem which adversely affected his body.... not a manifestation by itself. I couldn't heal my son from dyspraxia and apraxia without addressing the underlying root causes. > > The body is a whole, functioning enterprise and while perhaps some of these posts could be labled OT, they are helpful to some and don't deserve scorn or ridicule. > > Anything that helps the body and the immune system is right on target for many of our children. When you actually do the labwork and the physiological testing, you discover this and realize that our kids definately have some major health issues. > > This is WHY vitamin E and the fish oils help. This is WHY addressing diet and food intolerances help. This is WHY addressing candida, yeast, bacteria, parasites and other 'nasty' items do help the child. They are not in themselves the recovery but they help the child function to optimal levels..... clear out the blocked nasal and auditory passageways, stimulate those passageways intensely, do the oral motor therapy..... and low and behold, baby step by baby step..... normal function begins to emerge for many children. > > If you don't want to receive information that others find in their research that they believe others might enjoy, then press the delete key. Some of us do find this information pertinent and useful to helping our kids and their immune systems..... and thus affecting their apraxia. If you feel that your email is getting 'clogged' then why don't you change your system to digest mode? That way you can choose what to read and what not to read. > > I do caution that you may actually learn something from those that have been there and do actually have recovered or recovering kids. Try to open up your horizon a bit because you never know what you may find that could help your child. I never in a million years associated food intolerances, vitamin deficiencies or a compromised immune system with my son's apraxia..... but in the end it turned out to be true! > > By the way, those at QuackWatch are Quacks themselves! Anyone who has read their stuff over the years and has half a brain has learned that they are full of 'it'. Just my humble opinion. You should read what they say about chiropractors! They are just a bunch of fear mongerers and their stuff is not worth the time of day. > > Note that cinnamon helps greatly with the control of blood glucose levels and thus does have therapeutic affects for the body. The diabetic world has known this for many, many years. Some of our best health sollutions come from food rather then a pill! > > Janice > > > > > [sPAM][ ] Re: CINNAMON AND HONEY...THE MIRACLE CURE > > > Again, facutal information on electrodermal screening that you > used,with no relevance to apraxia and possibly dangerous to our > children when inappropriate or misdagnosis of illness. Again, needs > to be posted to a different group, not here. > > Scientific Study > > In a double-blind study, British researchers compared its results with > a Vegatest device to those of conventional skin-prick testing in 30 > volunteers, half of whom had previously reacted positively for allergy > to cat dander or house dust mite. Each participant was tested with 6 > items by each of 3 operators in 3 separate sessions, a total of 54 > tests per participant. The researchers concluded that Vegatesting does > not correlate with skin prick testing and so should not be used to > diagnose these allergies. The authors estimated that more than 500 EDS > devices were being used in the United Kingdom to assess sensitivity to > potential allergens [8]. > > The Australian College of Allergy has concluded that " Vega testing is > a technique of diagnosis without scientific basis. " [9] In 1997, a > biomedical engineer found that placing ampoules in the honeycomb of a > Vegatest I device did not affect the device's readings [10]. This is > not surprising, because glass is not an electrical conductor. > Government Regulation > > The FDA classifies " devices that use resistance measurements to > diagnose and treat various diseases " as Class III devices, which > require FDA approval prior to marketing. In 1986, an FDA official > informed me that the FDA Center for Devices and Radiological Health > had determined that the Dermatron and Accupath 1000 were diagnostic > devices that posed a " significant risk. " [11] No such device can be > legally marketed in the United States for diagnostic or treatment > purposes. A few companies have obtained 510(k) clearance (not > approval) by telling the FDA that their devices will be used for > biofeedback or to measure skin resistance, but this does not entitle > them to market the devices for other purposes. > > EAV devices are not biofeedback devices. Biofeedback is a relaxation > technique that uses an electronic device that continuously signals > pulse rate, muscle tension, or other body function by tone or visual > signal. In biofeedback, the signal originates and is influenced by the > patient. In EAV, the signal is influenced by how hard the operator > presses the probe against the patient's skin. (Pressure makes the > electric current flow more easily between the device to the patient's > skin.) The now-defunct International Academy of Bioenergetic > Practitioners encouraged device purchasers to bill insurance companies > using biofeedback codes [12]. I believe, however, that doing this > could result in prosecution for insurance fraud. > > The FDA has banned importation of EAV devices into the United States > and warned or prosecuted a few marketers [13] Foreign and state > regulatory agencies have also taken a few actions [13]. However, no > systematic effort has been made to drive them from the marketplace. As > a result, these bogus devices are being used by many chiropractors, > acupuncturists, dentists, " holistic " physicians, veterinarians, > self-styled " nutritionists, " and various unlicensed individuals . The > most common use is for prescribing homeopathic products. They are also > used to determine " allergies, " detect " nutrient deficiencies, " and > locate alleged problems in teeth that contain amalgam ( " silver " ) fillings. > Significant Risks > > EAV devices pose several serious risks. The transmittal of false or > misleading health information can cause emotional harm, a false sense > of security, or a false set of beliefs that can lead to unwise > decisions. During the past ten years, more than 200 people have told > me about their experiences with EAV practitioners. In most cases, they > or someone they knew wasted hundreds (or even thousands) of dollars > for the test and recommended treatment. In some cases, the person > tested became very frightened and wound up undergoing expensive > medical tests that showed that the diagnosed conditions were not present. > > Unnecessary follow-up procedures can also be a serious problem. I know > of several patients who had healthy teeth extracted after being > misdiagnosed with an EAV device. In another case, a man who consulted > a physician about rectal bleeding and abdominal cramps was examined > only with a Dermatron and told that his colon was fine. Unfortunately, > the man had colon cancer-which was not diagnosed until at least seven > months later when he consulted another doctor. Two others I know about > had advanced cancers were erroneously told they were cancer-free. One > of them was sold 33 products to get rid of " parasites " and other > nonexistent problems. One victim who tried to get a refund was told > that the products had been electrically specifically modified for her > and could not be used for anyone else. > > The strangest report I have received came from a parent who, after > reading an earlier version of this article, telephoned to described > how his five-year-old daughter had been tested by an unlicensed > practitioner. When the child became restless, the test was continued > by probing the parent's hand while the parent held the child. The > parent also noted that the practitioner appeared to manipulate the > results (seeking a " 50 " reading on the device) by moistening or drying > the child's finger while testing to select the appropriate remedy. > from > http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/electro.html > > and > > http://www.cancer.org/docroot/ETO/content/ETO_5_3X_Electrodermal_Screeni\ ng.asp > What is the evidence? > > Available scientific evidence does not support electrodermal screening > (galvanic skin response) as a reliable aid in diagnosis or treatment > of cancer or other illness. > > The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) requires that any device that > is used to diagnose or treat diseases be proven effective before it > can be marketed. None of these devices has earned FDA approval for > diagnostic use, although several are registered as " galvanic skin > response detection devices. " The FDA has warned several manufacturers > to stop making false claims about diagnosis, and has banned some > devices from being imported. Various licensing boards in the US have > disciplined licensed practitioners who have used electrodermal > screening for diagnosis or treatment selection. In spite of all this, > the devices are still frequently advertised and promoted as diagnostic > tools. > > Are there any possible problems or complications? > > Electrodermal screening itself is relatively safe, although people > with implanted pacemakers should avoid electrical current. However, > misdiagnosis and improper treatment may cause problems. For example, > people have had healthy teeth removed based on recommendations from > this type of screening. One man was told he did not have cancer, when > in fact, he did. His treatment was delayed for several months because > of misinformation. > > Relying on this type of treatment while avoiding or delaying > conventional medical care may have serious health consequences. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Apraxia is a health issue!!! Love, Gabby. :0) http://stemcellforautism.blogspot.com/ " I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely neurotypical. Even God had some Autistic moments, which is why the planets all spin. " ~ Jerry Newport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Janice: I have found your posts extremely helpful in learning about alternative treatments as well as the support you have provided to parents that are starting on their path with apraxia. Please know that you, and many others on this site are wonderful and I appreciate all the info you have imparted. Just thought you should know that. Kris W On Dec 11, 2008, at 8:21 AM, Janice wrote: > There are many techniques that we moms who have 'successfully' > recovered our apraxic children that we have used that are not > considered mainstream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 I agree, if you are not open to DELETING a message. I find so much great information that is natural that heals my son. These messages shoudl not be taken personally if you dont belive it. Re: [ ] Re: CINNAMON AND HONEY...THE MIRACLE CURE Can you not just DELETE the messages that she sends if you dislike them so much? I think several of us have stated over and over that these sort of emails interest them BECAUSE of their child being Apraxic and wanting to find natural or homeopathic methods to help them. I see that her messages are perfectly fine and on topic as well. If someone doesn't like them-- the delete button should be used, because the benefits to many others here far outweighs the negatives to the few Becky In a message dated 12/10/2008 6:57:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, lorirosenaol (DOT) <mailto:lorirosen%40aol.com> com writes: Then those of you who like these types of postings should subscribe to holistic/alternativholistic/alternativ<WBR>e treaments grou links/messages should be shared there and not here. Sorry, again, this is an APRAXIA and related issues group!!! **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol. <http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp & icid=aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolcom00000 010> com/?optin=new-dp & icid=aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Couldnt have said it better myself Janice. For all of you who are new or continue to read this thread, please take note that Janice's dilligence along with several others' has played a major part of my son's recovery. I applaude these Mother Warriors who dedicate their time and energy into open-minded resolutions that are Natural. I also continue to commend those who take the mainstream route, as that is their choice. My results have been tremendous over the last year and a half. My son was severly apraxic and is now functioning perfectly to the untrained eye. He is 3 and a half with a full vocabulary, clear articulation, and building a strong core daily. The good news is that we all have Choices. And it is your choice to read. Bio med is not going away, as so many mainstreamers do not find the answer in chemicals. It is remarkable that some of the top Doctors in the nation rely on Nutritionists to solve health issues where chemicals leave off. Dont forget how the studies are funded folks! Only the best to you all on your search for healing. Colleen Mother of Charlie 3.5 years Re: [ ] Re: CINNAMON AND HONEY...THE MIRACLE CURE There are many techniques that we moms who have 'successfully' recovered our apraxic children that we have used that are not considered mainstream. Fish oils, special diets, electrodermal screening, homeopathy, chelation, neurodevelopmental therapy, listening programs to stimulate the ears and auditory channels, work on sequential processing, HBOT therapy, etc. etc. I note that you took one post of mine with regards to electodermal testing and used it as a basis for scorn..... I myself have called it 'voodoo' science that worked for us! I still don't understand why or how but I am not the only person on this board or other boards who have used it with incredible success. What about all of the posts that I have submitted in the past that detail core body exercises, tongue exercises and hand exercises? Those items have no 'proof' associated with them..... but we all know that they work! The list goes on and on. I did 9.5 years of mainstream 'system' speech with few results. If I had just stuck to that premise, my son would still be stuck in special education and not speaking clearly, articulately nor proficiently today. He'd still be using 2-3 word phrases! Today, my son gets all A's and B's in school, has many friends and is considered a 'regular' guy.... we are quickly making gains in his hands via continued core body work, working his visual motor systems along with the supplementation of piracetam. HE is recovering via a combonation of biomed and therapy..... and so are many like him! How is mainstream only working for you? Because it didn't do much for us! I don't see many on this board or other boards who actually recover their children from dyspraxia/apraxia without doing some biomed.... at the very least in the form of fish oils and some with this along with dietary changes. Sticking to only mainstream therapy doesn't provide recovery as far as I can see. But this is just my observation and humble opinion after reading thousands of posts from other moms. The health of our children plays a HUGE role in their apraxia. Hypotonia, auditory tonal processing issues, food allergies and sensitivities as well as chemical sensitivities are of paramount importance. Addressing the issues of the immune system which is often the root cause of the problem DOES help the child regain lost function. With my son in particular, his apraxia is resolved but he continues to have issues with nasal voice production. Guess what? When we do a couple of saline washes in his nose or we use Mucostop, this clears right up! The ENT was of no assistance here. It has taken me many, many, many years to realize that what I actually had was a 'sick' child and the apraxia, dyspraxia were actually 'symptoms' of illness. They were a result of a medical problem which adversely affected his body.... not a manifestation by itself. I couldn't heal my son from dyspraxia and apraxia without addressing the underlying root causes. The body is a whole, functioning enterprise and while perhaps some of these posts could be labled OT, they are helpful to some and don't deserve scorn or ridicule. Anything that helps the body and the immune system is right on target for many of our children. When you actually do the labwork and the physiological testing, you discover this and realize that our kids definately have some major health issues. This is WHY vitamin E and the fish oils help. This is WHY addressing diet and food intolerances help. This is WHY addressing candida, yeast, bacteria, parasites and other 'nasty' items do help the child. They are not in themselves the recovery but they help the child function to optimal levels..... clear out the blocked nasal and auditory passageways, stimulate those passageways intensely, do the oral motor therapy..... and low and behold, baby step by baby step..... normal function begins to emerge for many children. If you don't want to receive information that others find in their research that they believe others might enjoy, then press the delete key. Some of us do find this information pertinent and useful to helping our kids and their immune systems..... and thus affecting their apraxia. If you feel that your email is getting 'clogged' then why don't you change your system to digest mode? That way you can choose what to read and what not to read. I do caution that you may actually learn something from those that have been there and do actually have recovered or recovering kids. Try to open up your horizon a bit because you never know what you may find that could help your child. I never in a million years associated food intolerances, vitamin deficiencies or a compromised immune system with my son's apraxia..... but in the end it turned out to be true! By the way, those at QuackWatch are Quacks themselves! Anyone who has read their stuff over the years and has half a brain has learned that they are full of 'it'. Just my humble opinion. You should read what they say about chiropractors! They are just a bunch of fear mongerers and their stuff is not worth the time of day. Note that cinnamon helps greatly with the control of blood glucose levels and thus does have therapeutic affects for the body. The diabetic world has known this for many, many years. Some of our best health sollutions come from food rather then a pill! Janice [sPAM][ ] Re: CINNAMON AND HONEY...THE MIRACLE CURE Again, facutal information on electrodermal screening that you used,with no relevance to apraxia and possibly dangerous to our children when inappropriate or misdagnosis of illness. Again, needs to be posted to a different group, not here. Scientific Study In a double-blind study, British researchers compared its results with a Vegatest device to those of conventional skin-prick testing in 30 volunteers, half of whom had previously reacted positively for allergy to cat dander or house dust mite. Each participant was tested with 6 items by each of 3 operators in 3 separate sessions, a total of 54 tests per participant. The researchers concluded that Vegatesting does not correlate with skin prick testing and so should not be used to diagnose these allergies. The authors estimated that more than 500 EDS devices were being used in the United Kingdom to assess sensitivity to potential allergens [8]. The Australian College of Allergy has concluded that " Vega testing is a technique of diagnosis without scientific basis. " [9] In 1997, a biomedical engineer found that placing ampoules in the honeycomb of a Vegatest I device did not affect the device's readings [10]. This is not surprising, because glass is not an electrical conductor. Government Regulation The FDA classifies " devices that use resistance measurements to diagnose and treat various diseases " as Class III devices, which require FDA approval prior to marketing. In 1986, an FDA official informed me that the FDA Center for Devices and Radiological Health had determined that the Dermatron and Accupath 1000 were diagnostic devices that posed a " significant risk. " [11] No such device can be legally marketed in the United States for diagnostic or treatment purposes. A few companies have obtained 510(k) clearance (not approval) by telling the FDA that their devices will be used for biofeedback or to measure skin resistance, but this does not entitle them to market the devices for other purposes. EAV devices are not biofeedback devices. Biofeedback is a relaxation technique that uses an electronic device that continuously signals pulse rate, muscle tension, or other body function by tone or visual signal. In biofeedback, the signal originates and is influenced by the patient. In EAV, the signal is influenced by how hard the operator presses the probe against the patient's skin. (Pressure makes the electric current flow more easily between the device to the patient's skin.) The now-defunct International Academy of Bioenergetic Practitioners encouraged device purchasers to bill insurance companies using biofeedback codes [12]. I believe, however, that doing this could result in prosecution for insurance fraud. The FDA has banned importation of EAV devices into the United States and warned or prosecuted a few marketers [13] Foreign and state regulatory agencies have also taken a few actions [13]. However, no systematic effort has been made to drive them from the marketplace. As a result, these bogus devices are being used by many chiropractors, acupuncturists, dentists, " holistic " physicians, veterinarians, self-styled " nutritionists, " and various unlicensed individuals . The most common use is for prescribing homeopathic products. They are also used to determine " allergies, " detect " nutrient deficiencies, " and locate alleged problems in teeth that contain amalgam ( " silver " ) fillings. Significant Risks EAV devices pose several serious risks. The transmittal of false or misleading health information can cause emotional harm, a false sense of security, or a false set of beliefs that can lead to unwise decisions. During the past ten years, more than 200 people have told me about their experiences with EAV practitioners. In most cases, they or someone they knew wasted hundreds (or even thousands) of dollars for the test and recommended treatment. In some cases, the person tested became very frightened and wound up undergoing expensive medical tests that showed that the diagnosed conditions were not present. Unnecessary follow-up procedures can also be a serious problem. I know of several patients who had healthy teeth extracted after being misdiagnosed with an EAV device. In another case, a man who consulted a physician about rectal bleeding and abdominal cramps was examined only with a Dermatron and told that his colon was fine. Unfortunately, the man had colon cancer-which was not diagnosed until at least seven months later when he consulted another doctor. Two others I know about had advanced cancers were erroneously told they were cancer-free. One of them was sold 33 products to get rid of " parasites " and other nonexistent problems. One victim who tried to get a refund was told that the products had been electrically specifically modified for her and could not be used for anyone else. The strangest report I have received came from a parent who, after reading an earlier version of this article, telephoned to described how his five-year-old daughter had been tested by an unlicensed practitioner. When the child became restless, the test was continued by probing the parent's hand while the parent held the child. The parent also noted that the practitioner appeared to manipulate the results (seeking a " 50 " reading on the device) by moistening or drying the child's finger while testing to select the appropriate remedy. from http://www.quackwat <http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/electro.html> ch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/electro.html and http://www.cancer. <http://www.cancer.org/docroot/ETO/content/ETO_5_3X_Electrodermal_Screening. asp> org/docroot/ETO/content/ETO_5_3X_Electrodermal_Screening.asp What is the evidence? Available scientific evidence does not support electrodermal screening (galvanic skin response) as a reliable aid in diagnosis or treatment of cancer or other illness. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) requires that any device that is used to diagnose or treat diseases be proven effective before it can be marketed. None of these devices has earned FDA approval for diagnostic use, although several are registered as " galvanic skin response detection devices. " The FDA has warned several manufacturers to stop making false claims about diagnosis, and has banned some devices from being imported. Various licensing boards in the US have disciplined licensed practitioners who have used electrodermal screening for diagnosis or treatment selection. In spite of all this, the devices are still frequently advertised and promoted as diagnostic tools. Are there any possible problems or complications? Electrodermal screening itself is relatively safe, although people with implanted pacemakers should avoid electrical current. However, misdiagnosis and improper treatment may cause problems. For example, people have had healthy teeth removed based on recommendations from this type of screening. One man was told he did not have cancer, when in fact, he did. His treatment was delayed for several months because of misinformation. Relying on this type of treatment while avoiding or delaying conventional medical care may have serious health consequences. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 FDA approved mercury in amalgams, and now took it back!!! FDA approved Mercury in vaccines, and took it back!!!! FDA has approved many, many Rx MEDICATION and after deaths and other causes, takes them back (RECALL)!!! If you think the FDA is GOD and knows it all, and there for you... be prepared for a disappointment...Sorry!!! Love, Gabby. :0) http://stemcellforautism.blogspot.com/ " I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely neurotypical. Even God had some Autistic moments, which is why the planets all spin. " ~ Jerry Newport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 This is all very fascinating to me! Thanks for sharing! Is there a recommended brand or type of cinnamon and honey to use? Organic? Thanks, Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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