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Try a health food store for Spry Toothpaste. Tom's of Maine has a

non-fluoride version but only at the health food stores. The

supermarket version still has fluoride. Spry has a whole line of great

toothpastes. It has Xylitol and is very good stuff. I've heard that

Oral B stuff is just a waste.

Theres also a group called veryyoungkidsteeth-- great tips there

too.

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My son's OT just recommended we try Tom's of Maine as it is all natural

(without fluoride) and there are a lot of strong flavors that might

provide the necessary feedback for him to actually let us brush his

teeth. We haven't tried it yet, but I thought it was worth a go!

Penny

http://twoplusoneequalsfive.blogspot.com/

>

> My dd hasn't quite mastered spitting out her toothpaste. We're

> currently using the Oral-B toddler paste, but would like to know if

> there is anything else out there that might do a better job getting

> her teeth clean. Any recommendations? Thanks.

>

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I have a 5 yo and a 9 yo who about cried when I tried Tom's toothpaste - as it

is VERY strong.  I was able to brush the 9 yo's teeth, but he had a funny look

on his face and wanted to spit out (something that he, too, is not very good at)

- usually he'll swallow it (though I am working on him to spit out.  My five yo

tried a little on his finger while I was brushing the older ones teeth and then

he refused to let me even try saying, " Too hot, Momma " .  I didn't push it of

course.  I had them try mine, so maybe not the best flavor.  I bought the

Natural antiplaque tartar control plus whitening toothpaste (peppermint

flavor).  If

there are other flavors, it might work for you, but I would not suggest getting

this one!!!!!!

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From: pdearmin <pdearmin@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Looking for a non-flouride toothpaste for a 4

yo (more)

Date: Friday, December 5, 2008, 9:44 AM

My son's OT just recommended we try Tom's of Maine as it is all natural

(without fluoride) and there are a lot of strong flavors that might

provide the necessary feedback for him to actually let us brush his

teeth. We haven't tried it yet, but I thought it was worth a go!

Penny

http://twoplusoneeq ualsfive. blogspot. com/

>

> My dd hasn't quite mastered spitting out her toothpaste. We're

> currently using the Oral-B toddler paste, but would like to know if

> there is anything else out there that might do a better job getting

> her teeth clean. Any recommendations? Thanks.

>

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Just wanted to point out that there are many other all natural

toothpastes out there other than Tom's. I have below just two of

them -I use and it's awesome. The first one below however is

more preschool age child friendly.

(PS the one sounds like it tastes gross -but it's really good!)

Weleda Children's Tooth Gel - 1.78 oz

Price US $4.50

Description: Natural protection for children's baby teeth - fluoride-

free

Gently cares for the delicate teeth and gums of your young child. A

favorite among children. Natural Silica and calming biodynamic

Calendula help to effectively clean and soothe this sensitive area.

Directions for use: Apply a small amount of toothpaste to a dry

toothbrush, and brush over the teeth and gums for a thorough cleaning.

Ingredients: Glycerin, Water (Aqua), Silica, Algin, Calendula

Officinalis, Foeniculum Vulgare (Fennel), Mentha Viridis (Spearmint),

Esculin, Limonene*.

* from natural essential oils

Sea Fresh Plus CoQ10 Gel Toothpaste – 6 oz

Price US $8.19

Power up your smile with Sea Fresh™ all-natural sea-sourced

toothpaste. Three natural whitening polishers; Bamboo Powder, Calcium

Carbonate and Silica help prevent plaque build-up and are more gentle

on your teeth than other whitening ingredients. Anti-bacterial

Grapefruit Seed Extract and Perilla Seed Extract help block sugar

acids and bacteria forming in your mouth. Certified Organic Aloe Vera

Gel helps sooth and relieve gums from irritation. Essential oils of

mint bring the Deepsea Spearmint flavor!

Contains CoQ10 for gum support and periodontal protection.

Biologically Active Blue-Green Algae, Sea Salts and Minerals help

strengthen gums and teeth while DeepSea Spearmint blasts away bad

breath!

Certified organic blue green algae, sea salts and trace

Three natural whitening polishers

No fluoride

No saccharin

No preservatives

No artificial colors or flavors

No animal by-products

No animal testing

No lauryl sulfates

No propylene glycol

JASON Pure, Natural & Organic

If you go to the website to raise monies for Kathy's son hearing aid

http://www.shoptobeheard.com and click on " ShoptoEarth " and then

click on Shop to Earth Select you'll see a huge list of organic green

manufacturers -including other toothpaste brands then these two

including from The Natural Dentist. Good toothpaste at the same

price that you'd pay at Whole Foods etc. -but by purchasing it

through Kathy's son's website you'll be supporting a worthy cause.

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,

Is this a different one as here it says it has fluoride?

https://www.vitacost.com/-Sea-Fresh-CoQ10-Tooth-Gel-

Toothpaste#IngredientFacts

Avoiding fluoride is key. Another helpful thing is to avoid aluminum

in the packaging. Lastly, we found out the hard way that avoiding

this popular toothpaste ingredient is necessary.

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1242073

HTH,

Liz

>

> Just wanted to point out that there are many other all natural

> toothpastes out there other than Tom's. I have below just two of

> them -I use and it's awesome. The first one below however

is

> more preschool age child friendly.

>

> (PS the one sounds like it tastes gross -but it's really

good!)

>

>

> Weleda Children's Tooth Gel - 1.78 oz

> Price US $4.50

>

> Description: Natural protection for children's baby teeth -

fluoride-

> free

>

> Gently cares for the delicate teeth and gums of your young child. A

> favorite among children. Natural Silica and calming biodynamic

> Calendula help to effectively clean and soothe this sensitive area.

>

> Directions for use: Apply a small amount of toothpaste to a dry

> toothbrush, and brush over the teeth and gums for a thorough

cleaning.

>

> Ingredients: Glycerin, Water (Aqua), Silica, Algin, Calendula

> Officinalis, Foeniculum Vulgare (Fennel), Mentha Viridis

(Spearmint),

> Esculin, Limonene*.

>

> * from natural essential oils

>

>

> Sea Fresh Plus CoQ10 Gel Toothpaste – 6 oz

> Price US $8.19

>

> Power up your smile with Sea Fresh™ all-natural sea-sourced

> toothpaste. Three natural whitening polishers; Bamboo Powder,

Calcium

> Carbonate and Silica help prevent plaque build-up and are more

gentle

> on your teeth than other whitening ingredients. Anti-bacterial

> Grapefruit Seed Extract and Perilla Seed Extract help block sugar

> acids and bacteria forming in your mouth. Certified Organic Aloe

Vera

> Gel helps sooth and relieve gums from irritation. Essential oils of

> mint bring the Deepsea Spearmint flavor!

>

> Contains CoQ10 for gum support and periodontal protection.

> Biologically Active Blue-Green Algae, Sea Salts and Minerals help

> strengthen gums and teeth while DeepSea Spearmint blasts away bad

> breath!

>

> Certified organic blue green algae, sea salts and trace

> Three natural whitening polishers

> No fluoride

> No saccharin

> No preservatives

> No artificial colors or flavors

> No animal by-products

> No animal testing

> No lauryl sulfates

> No propylene glycol

> JASON Pure, Natural & Organic

>

> If you go to the website to raise monies for Kathy's son hearing aid

> http://www.shoptobeheard.com and click on " ShoptoEarth " and then

> click on Shop to Earth Select you'll see a huge list of organic

green

> manufacturers -including other toothpaste brands then these two

> including from The Natural Dentist. Good toothpaste at the same

> price that you'd pay at Whole Foods etc. -but by purchasing it

> through Kathy's son's website you'll be supporting a worthy cause.

>

> =====

>

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Hey Liz!

Nope the " sea weed " toothpaste is fluoride free. I got the quote below

from the Natural website.

" Sea Fresh Toothpaste & Mouthwash

Non-Fluoride, Cooling Spearmint Flavor

Sea Fresh has tapped into the most important resource of the 21st

century for healthy teeth and gums - the sea. For hundreds of years

our food came with minerals from the soil. Erosion has lowered the

soil's mineral content, yet stress and exposure to environmental

pollution have raised the value for trace minerals.

Sea Fresh has tapped the ancient sea beds of the Great Salt Lake in

Utah for natural calcium, zinc, potassium, magnesium, a multitude of

trace minerals and Dead Sea Salts to help care for teeth and gums.

From the crystal clear waters of Klamath Lake, Oregon, Sea Fresh has

harvested Biologically-Active Blue-Green Algae - cleansing,

freshening & gum-soothing. From the oceans, Sea Kelp and Sea Parsley

combine with essential Oils of Spearmint to create Sea Fresh powerful

breath freshening.

Plus, plaque reduction from exclusive Perilla Seed Extract known to

block sugar acids. Furthermore, Bamboo Powder, never before in

toothpaste, combines with Silica and Calcium Carbonate for triple-

powered whitening without chemicals or harsh abrasives.

Directions: Use twice daily to help prevent: Dullness, Stains, Dry

Mouth, Discolorations, Bad Breath, Tartar Buildup, Sugar Acids. "

The owner of NaturalNews.com is

involved in shoptoearth as well and is one of the many people

advising which are some of the best organic manufacturers, and they

keep adding more.

Also I am using this for me and my family loves it (funny if you

think about it that I found a sea kelp toothpaste!!!) But as you'll

read from any review about this toothpaste -don't let the algae and

sea water scare you -it tastes amazing even to people that don't like

natural stuff - it's a best kept secret favorite toothpaste of many.

Guess in real life most don't want to admit they brush their teeth

with sea kelp?

Besides -on my last message for the little kids I posted another that

is also non fluoride.

Weleda Children's Tooth Gel - 1.78 oz

Price US $4.50

Description: Natural protection for children's baby teeth - fluoride-

free

Gently cares for the delicate teeth and gums of your young child. A

favorite among children. Natural Silica and calming biodynamic

Calendula help to effectively clean and soothe this sensitive area.

Directions for use: Apply a small amount of toothpaste to a dry

toothbrush, and brush over the teeth and gums for a thorough cleaning.

Ingredients: Glycerin, Water (Aqua), Silica, Algin, Calendula

Officinalis, Foeniculum Vulgare (Fennel), Mentha Viridis (Spearmint),

Esculin, Limonene*.

* from natural essential oils

Also I just thought it was a great opp to remind everyone that if you

are going to shop for it anyway (of course yes you can buy it all

over the net or from the health food store) -why not help Kathy raise

money for her son's hearing aid which is why I only posted Kathy's

fundraising website http://www.shoptobeheard.com click on shoptoearch

and then on shoptoearth " select " It tels you right on the order page

how much money goes back to Kathy's son.

(for those that don't know Kathy's story when you go to the above

website click on the photo of her 4 boys and it will tell you a bit

more -she's been a member of this group since almost day one and as

a " teacher of the year " award winning teacher and mom to twin boys

with apraxia who lost her husband in a car accident -I just thought

as one of our members, we all could reach out to help her.

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Very helpful. Thanks!

>

> Hey Liz!

>

> Nope the " sea weed " toothpaste is fluoride free. I got the quote

below

> from the Natural website.

>

> " Sea Fresh Toothpaste & Mouthwash

> Non-Fluoride, Cooling Spearmint Flavor

>

> Sea Fresh has tapped into the most important resource of the 21st

> century for healthy teeth and gums - the sea. For hundreds of years

> our food came with minerals from the soil. Erosion has lowered the

> soil's mineral content, yet stress and exposure to environmental

> pollution have raised the value for trace minerals.

>

> Sea Fresh has tapped the ancient sea beds of the Great Salt Lake in

> Utah for natural calcium, zinc, potassium, magnesium, a multitude of

> trace minerals and Dead Sea Salts to help care for teeth and gums.

>

> From the crystal clear waters of Klamath Lake, Oregon, Sea Fresh has

> harvested Biologically-Active Blue-Green Algae - cleansing,

> freshening & gum-soothing. From the oceans, Sea Kelp and Sea Parsley

> combine with essential Oils of Spearmint to create Sea Fresh

powerful

> breath freshening.

>

> Plus, plaque reduction from exclusive Perilla Seed Extract known to

> block sugar acids. Furthermore, Bamboo Powder, never before in

> toothpaste, combines with Silica and Calcium Carbonate for triple-

> powered whitening without chemicals or harsh abrasives.

>

> Directions: Use twice daily to help prevent: Dullness, Stains, Dry

> Mouth, Discolorations, Bad Breath, Tartar Buildup, Sugar Acids. "

>

> The owner of NaturalNews.com is

> involved in shoptoearth as well and is one of the many people

> advising which are some of the best organic manufacturers, and they

> keep adding more.

>

> Also I am using this for me and my family loves it (funny if

you

> think about it that I found a sea kelp toothpaste!!!) But as you'll

> read from any review about this toothpaste -don't let the algae and

> sea water scare you -it tastes amazing even to people that don't

like

> natural stuff - it's a best kept secret favorite toothpaste of many.

> Guess in real life most don't want to admit they brush their teeth

> with sea kelp?

>

> Besides -on my last message for the little kids I posted another

that

> is also non fluoride.

>

> Weleda Children's Tooth Gel - 1.78 oz

> Price US $4.50

>

> Description: Natural protection for children's baby teeth -

fluoride-

> free

>

> Gently cares for the delicate teeth and gums of your young child. A

> favorite among children. Natural Silica and calming biodynamic

> Calendula help to effectively clean and soothe this sensitive area.

>

> Directions for use: Apply a small amount of toothpaste to a dry

> toothbrush, and brush over the teeth and gums for a thorough

cleaning.

>

> Ingredients: Glycerin, Water (Aqua), Silica, Algin, Calendula

> Officinalis, Foeniculum Vulgare (Fennel), Mentha Viridis

(Spearmint),

> Esculin, Limonene*.

>

> * from natural essential oils

>

> Also I just thought it was a great opp to remind everyone that if

you

> are going to shop for it anyway (of course yes you can buy it all

> over the net or from the health food store) -why not help Kathy

raise

> money for her son's hearing aid which is why I only posted Kathy's

> fundraising website http://www.shoptobeheard.com click on

shoptoearch

> and then on shoptoearth " select " It tels you right on the order

page

> how much money goes back to Kathy's son.

>

> (for those that don't know Kathy's story when you go to the above

> website click on the photo of her 4 boys and it will tell you a bit

> more -she's been a member of this group since almost day one and as

> a " teacher of the year " award winning teacher and mom to twin boys

> with apraxia who lost her husband in a car accident -I just thought

> as one of our members, we all could reach out to help her.

>

> =====

>

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HI

when should you start using floruride toothpaste? my son just had his first

dentist appointment and has a cavity!! I cannot believe it.

pam

On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 11:22 AM, kiddietalk <kiddietalk@...> wrote:

> Hey Liz!

>

> Nope the " sea weed " toothpaste is fluoride free. I got the quote below

> from the Natural website.

>

> " Sea Fresh Toothpaste & Mouthwash

> Non-Fluoride, Cooling Spearmint Flavor

>

> Sea Fresh has tapped into the most important resource of the 21st

> century for healthy teeth and gums - the sea. For hundreds of years

> our food came with minerals from the soil. Erosion has lowered the

> soil's mineral content, yet stress and exposure to environmental

> pollution have raised the value for trace minerals.

>

> Sea Fresh has tapped the ancient sea beds of the Great Salt Lake in

> Utah for natural calcium, zinc, potassium, magnesium, a multitude of

> trace minerals and Dead Sea Salts to help care for teeth and gums.

>

> From the crystal clear waters of Klamath Lake, Oregon, Sea Fresh has

> harvested Biologically-Active Blue-Green Algae - cleansing,

> freshening & gum-soothing. From the oceans, Sea Kelp and Sea Parsley

> combine with essential Oils of Spearmint to create Sea Fresh powerful

> breath freshening.

>

> Plus, plaque reduction from exclusive Perilla Seed Extract known to

> block sugar acids. Furthermore, Bamboo Powder, never before in

> toothpaste, combines with Silica and Calcium Carbonate for triple-

> powered whitening without chemicals or harsh abrasives.

>

> Directions: Use twice daily to help prevent: Dullness, Stains, Dry

> Mouth, Discolorations, Bad Breath, Tartar Buildup, Sugar Acids. "

>

> The owner of NaturalNews.com is

> involved in shoptoearth as well and is one of the many people

> advising which are some of the best organic manufacturers, and they

> keep adding more.

>

> Also I am using this for me and my family loves it (funny if you

> think about it that I found a sea kelp toothpaste!!!) But as you'll

> read from any review about this toothpaste -don't let the algae and

> sea water scare you -it tastes amazing even to people that don't like

> natural stuff - it's a best kept secret favorite toothpaste of many.

> Guess in real life most don't want to admit they brush their teeth

> with sea kelp?

>

> Besides -on my last message for the little kids I posted another that

> is also non fluoride.

>

> Weleda Children's Tooth Gel - 1.78 oz

> Price US $4.50

>

> Description: Natural protection for children's baby teeth - fluoride-

> free

>

> Gently cares for the delicate teeth and gums of your young child. A

> favorite among children. Natural Silica and calming biodynamic

> Calendula help to effectively clean and soothe this sensitive area.

>

> Directions for use: Apply a small amount of toothpaste to a dry

> toothbrush, and brush over the teeth and gums for a thorough cleaning.

>

> Ingredients: Glycerin, Water (Aqua), Silica, Algin, Calendula

> Officinalis, Foeniculum Vulgare (Fennel), Mentha Viridis (Spearmint),

> Esculin, Limonene*.

>

> * from natural essential oils

>

> Also I just thought it was a great opp to remind everyone that if you

> are going to shop for it anyway (of course yes you can buy it all

> over the net or from the health food store) -why not help Kathy raise

> money for her son's hearing aid which is why I only posted Kathy's

> fundraising website http://www.shoptobeheard.com click on shoptoearch

> and then on shoptoearth " select " It tels you right on the order page

> how much money goes back to Kathy's son.

>

> (for those that don't know Kathy's story when you go to the above

> website click on the photo of her 4 boys and it will tell you a bit

> more -she's been a member of this group since almost day one and as

> a " teacher of the year " award winning teacher and mom to twin boys

> with apraxia who lost her husband in a car accident -I just thought

> as one of our members, we all could reach out to help her.

>

> =====

>

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Our dentist has recommended never using fluoride, there are many

studies possibly linking fluoride to harmful damage to enamel of

developing teeth (fluorosis), neurological effects (incl. lower IQ),

endocrine effects, and bone effects. It was also recommended that we

avoid toothpaste containing glycerin since the glycerin really coats

the teeth without cleaning well, potentially trapping bacteria etc.

We use either toothsoap or Tropical Traditions tooth cleaner. Both are

all natural. True to its name, toothsoap has a slightly soapy taste

but even my very picky 8 year old is fine with the citrus flavor and

if you stick to the recommended dose (just a couple of drops), the

taste is minimal (I stopped noticing it pretty quickly personally).

HTH, Kim

There is always the old fallback of baking soda too.

>

> > Hey Liz!

> >

> > Nope the " sea weed " toothpaste is fluoride free. I got the quote below

> > from the Natural website.

> >

> > " Sea Fresh Toothpaste & Mouthwash

> > Non-Fluoride, Cooling Spearmint Flavor

> >

> > Sea Fresh has tapped into the most important resource of the 21st

> > century for healthy teeth and gums - the sea. For hundreds of years

> > our food came with minerals from the soil. Erosion has lowered the

> > soil's mineral content, yet stress and exposure to environmental

> > pollution have raised the value for trace minerals.

> >

> > Sea Fresh has tapped the ancient sea beds of the Great Salt Lake in

> > Utah for natural calcium, zinc, potassium, magnesium, a multitude of

> > trace minerals and Dead Sea Salts to help care for teeth and gums.

> >

> > From the crystal clear waters of Klamath Lake, Oregon, Sea Fresh has

> > harvested Biologically-Active Blue-Green Algae - cleansing,

> > freshening & gum-soothing. From the oceans, Sea Kelp and Sea Parsley

> > combine with essential Oils of Spearmint to create Sea Fresh powerful

> > breath freshening.

> >

> > Plus, plaque reduction from exclusive Perilla Seed Extract known to

> > block sugar acids. Furthermore, Bamboo Powder, never before in

> > toothpaste, combines with Silica and Calcium Carbonate for triple-

> > powered whitening without chemicals or harsh abrasives.

> >

> > Directions: Use twice daily to help prevent: Dullness, Stains, Dry

> > Mouth, Discolorations, Bad Breath, Tartar Buildup, Sugar Acids. "

> >

> > The owner of NaturalNews.com is

> > involved in shoptoearth as well and is one of the many people

> > advising which are some of the best organic manufacturers, and they

> > keep adding more.

> >

> > Also I am using this for me and my family loves it (funny if you

> > think about it that I found a sea kelp toothpaste!!!) But as you'll

> > read from any review about this toothpaste -don't let the algae and

> > sea water scare you -it tastes amazing even to people that don't like

> > natural stuff - it's a best kept secret favorite toothpaste of many.

> > Guess in real life most don't want to admit they brush their teeth

> > with sea kelp?

> >

> > Besides -on my last message for the little kids I posted another that

> > is also non fluoride.

> >

> > Weleda Children's Tooth Gel - 1.78 oz

> > Price US $4.50

> >

> > Description: Natural protection for children's baby teeth - fluoride-

> > free

> >

> > Gently cares for the delicate teeth and gums of your young child. A

> > favorite among children. Natural Silica and calming biodynamic

> > Calendula help to effectively clean and soothe this sensitive area.

> >

> > Directions for use: Apply a small amount of toothpaste to a dry

> > toothbrush, and brush over the teeth and gums for a thorough cleaning.

> >

> > Ingredients: Glycerin, Water (Aqua), Silica, Algin, Calendula

> > Officinalis, Foeniculum Vulgare (Fennel), Mentha Viridis (Spearmint),

> > Esculin, Limonene*.

> >

> > * from natural essential oils

> >

> > Also I just thought it was a great opp to remind everyone that if you

> > are going to shop for it anyway (of course yes you can buy it all

> > over the net or from the health food store) -why not help Kathy raise

> > money for her son's hearing aid which is why I only posted Kathy's

> > fundraising website http://www.shoptobeheard.com click on shoptoearch

> > and then on shoptoearth " select " It tels you right on the order page

> > how much money goes back to Kathy's son.

> >

> > (for those that don't know Kathy's story when you go to the above

> > website click on the photo of her 4 boys and it will tell you a bit

> > more -she's been a member of this group since almost day one and as

> > a " teacher of the year " award winning teacher and mom to twin boys

> > with apraxia who lost her husband in a car accident -I just thought

> > as one of our members, we all could reach out to help her.

> >

> > =====

> >

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Pamela Diamond wrote:

> when should you start using floruride toothpaste? my son just had his first

> dentist appointment and has a cavity!! I cannot believe it.

Pam

Flouride is not recommended - despite decades of previous marketing to

use it. According to reports from the dental associations and related

research, it doesn't prevent cavities - it makes the teeth more

vulnerable (in addition to the other really BAD neurological and other

side-effects of flouride and flouride-based products).

Cavities can also form when the pH of the mouth is out of balance and

that can be diet-related.

I'll see if I can dig up some archives and other info from around the

net to re-share....it make take me a while as we're in a 3-day holiday

here and I have the kids home. In the meantime, you may try a quick

Google search for " flouride dental dangers " -- lots of articles there.

One thorough site is www.flouridealert.org

Liz (aka ilizzy) will probably write soon, too - she's the " queen of

flouride danger references "

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http://www.nextag.com/spry-toothpaste/products-html

 

Xylitol gets rid of cavities!!! also look in to:

LIVING STREAM Probiotics

 http://www.livingstreamsmission.com/

 

This can be used not just orally but topical... like for ear infections and skin

problems!!!

 

Living Streams Probiotic " helps the body to fight off diseases " .  Here is a

partial list so far:

Bad breath

Plaque and cavities

Gum disease

Digestive problems

Diarrhea

Insect bites

Burned skin

Raspy voice and/or sore throat

Ear aches

Eye infections

Acid reflux

Septicemia ( " septic blood " )

Constipation

Listlessness

Detoxification

Hepatitis C

Typhus

Salmonella poisoning

Blood virus infections

H-Pylori

Fungus

Candida/Yeast

Feminine problems

Athletes Foot

Rashes and other skin problems

Poison ivy

Black and other molds

Mrsa

Shingles

Eczema

Colds and flu

Chicken pox

Herpes

Lyme disease

Chronic fatigue

Cuts and scrapes

 

Love, Gabby. :0)

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" I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely neurotypical. Even God had

some Autistic moments, which is why the planets all spin. " ~ Jerry Newport

 

 

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Never

>

> > Hey Liz!

> >

> > Nope the " sea weed " toothpaste is fluoride free. I got the quote

below

> > from the Natural website.

> >

> > " Sea Fresh Toothpaste & Mouthwash

> > Non-Fluoride, Cooling Spearmint Flavor

> >

> > Sea Fresh has tapped into the most important resource of the 21st

> > century for healthy teeth and gums - the sea. For hundreds of

years

> > our food came with minerals from the soil. Erosion has lowered the

> > soil's mineral content, yet stress and exposure to environmental

> > pollution have raised the value for trace minerals.

> >

> > Sea Fresh has tapped the ancient sea beds of the Great Salt Lake

in

> > Utah for natural calcium, zinc, potassium, magnesium, a multitude

of

> > trace minerals and Dead Sea Salts to help care for teeth and gums.

> >

> > From the crystal clear waters of Klamath Lake, Oregon, Sea Fresh

has

> > harvested Biologically-Active Blue-Green Algae - cleansing,

> > freshening & gum-soothing. From the oceans, Sea Kelp and Sea

Parsley

> > combine with essential Oils of Spearmint to create Sea Fresh

powerful

> > breath freshening.

> >

> > Plus, plaque reduction from exclusive Perilla Seed Extract known

to

> > block sugar acids. Furthermore, Bamboo Powder, never before in

> > toothpaste, combines with Silica and Calcium Carbonate for triple-

> > powered whitening without chemicals or harsh abrasives.

> >

> > Directions: Use twice daily to help prevent: Dullness, Stains, Dry

> > Mouth, Discolorations, Bad Breath, Tartar Buildup, Sugar Acids. "

> >

> > The owner of NaturalNews.com is

> > involved in shoptoearth as well and is one of the many people

> > advising which are some of the best organic manufacturers, and

they

> > keep adding more.

> >

> > Also I am using this for me and my family loves it (funny

if you

> > think about it that I found a sea kelp toothpaste!!!) But as

you'll

> > read from any review about this toothpaste -don't let the algae

and

> > sea water scare you -it tastes amazing even to people that don't

like

> > natural stuff - it's a best kept secret favorite toothpaste of

many.

> > Guess in real life most don't want to admit they brush their teeth

> > with sea kelp?

> >

> > Besides -on my last message for the little kids I posted another

that

> > is also non fluoride.

> >

> > Weleda Children's Tooth Gel - 1.78 oz

> > Price US $4.50

> >

> > Description: Natural protection for children's baby teeth -

fluoride-

> > free

> >

> > Gently cares for the delicate teeth and gums of your young child.

A

> > favorite among children. Natural Silica and calming biodynamic

> > Calendula help to effectively clean and soothe this sensitive

area.

> >

> > Directions for use: Apply a small amount of toothpaste to a dry

> > toothbrush, and brush over the teeth and gums for a thorough

cleaning.

> >

> > Ingredients: Glycerin, Water (Aqua), Silica, Algin, Calendula

> > Officinalis, Foeniculum Vulgare (Fennel), Mentha Viridis

(Spearmint),

> > Esculin, Limonene*.

> >

> > * from natural essential oils

> >

> > Also I just thought it was a great opp to remind everyone that if

you

> > are going to shop for it anyway (of course yes you can buy it all

> > over the net or from the health food store) -why not help Kathy

raise

> > money for her son's hearing aid which is why I only posted Kathy's

> > fundraising website http://www.shoptobeheard.com click on

shoptoearch

> > and then on shoptoearth " select " It tels you right on the order

page

> > how much money goes back to Kathy's son.

> >

> > (for those that don't know Kathy's story when you go to the above

> > website click on the photo of her 4 boys and it will tell you a

bit

> > more -she's been a member of this group since almost day one and

as

> > a " teacher of the year " award winning teacher and mom to twin boys

> > with apraxia who lost her husband in a car accident -I just

thought

> > as one of our members, we all could reach out to help her.

> >

> > =====

> >

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thank you so much for the education. I was just so shocked....we are super

healthy at home and both my husband and i never had cavities in our baby

teeth. interesting about the Ph....i also think that i need to get a

second opinion. im very nervous about the novicane and him getting the

filling, even though it is a " white " filling

pam

On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 7:25 PM, <Altoonakenton@...> wrote:

> ,

> We also use this toothpaste and everyone seems to like it (as they are

> actually all brushing) LOL! We take our fish pills in the morning and then

> our fish toothpaste...It is kind of a joke around here..now we need to find

> fish toothbrushes!!

>

> Kathy

> http://www.shoptobeheard.com

>

>

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In my experience many parents do not recommend it but I have never

had a dentist not recommend flouride. (In fact both dentists our

family sees recommended flouride suplementation. I always thought

our water was flouridated but it is not. I checked the report we get

mailed to us every year and was surprised to discover that. I do not

supplement flouride. We just use flouride toothpaste.) My youngest

(5 1/2) stopped having cavities when we started flouride toothpaste.

Prior to that we used Orajel. It was not very effective at cavity

prevention in our experience. He does have a problem with his teeth

(It's low enamel I think. I cannot recall what it is called -

hypofloridosis?)

> > when should you start using floruride toothpaste? my son just

had his first

> > dentist appointment and has a cavity!! I cannot believe it.

>

> Pam

>

> Flouride is not recommended - despite decades of previous marketing

to

> use it. According to reports from the dental associations and

related

> research, it doesn't prevent cavities - it makes the teeth more

> vulnerable (in addition to the other really BAD neurological and

other

> side-effects of flouride and flouride-based products).

>

> Cavities can also form when the pH of the mouth is out of balance

and

> that can be diet-related.

>

> I'll see if I can dig up some archives and other info from around

the

> net to re-share....it make take me a while as we're in a 3-day

holiday

> here and I have the kids home. In the meantime, you may try a

quick

> Google search for " flouride dental dangers " -- lots of articles

there.

>

> One thorough site is www.flouridealert.org

>

> Liz (aka ilizzy) will probably write soon, too - she's the " queen

of

> flouride danger references "

>

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I have to check with another dentist friend but my one friend who is

Dakota's orthodontist (Dakota has I-braces!) says that she has " mixed

feelings) about fluoride because she sees what happens to teeth of

people that don't have fluoride -but she knows while it's good for

the teeth it's not good for the body. So it's not all black and

white with people that work as professional dentistry either.

BTW -she did check out the 's toothpaste for me and her eyebrows

went up when she read the ingredients -she especially appeared to be

impressed with the CoQ10 and said this looks really good. Bibi (Dr.

Ramos) also pointed out that " you are aware that many things we use

in dentistry are from the sea aren't you? " I said " no " So she

brought up the example of agar which is made form sea algae to make

molds for the mouth. Also it appears that some toothpastes

contain fluoride and some do not -so have to check as it can work for

you either way!

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Fluorisis is what it is called. It affects more than teeth. Lowers

IQ, affects the pineal gland, damages bone. If you google fluoride

action network the history of fluoride is there and why dentists

mistakenly recommend it.

75% of the U.S. has fluoridated water. Even in places where it is

defined as not fluoridated per water reports they can add up to 1 ppm

(dangerous and linked to bone cancer in boys)without it being

considered fluoridated.

Best to get it out. Reverse osmosis for drinking.

> > > when should you start using floruride toothpaste? my son just

> had his first

> > > dentist appointment and has a cavity!! I cannot believe it.

> >

> > Pam

> >

> > Flouride is not recommended - despite decades of previous

marketing

> to

> > use it. According to reports from the dental associations and

> related

> > research, it doesn't prevent cavities - it makes the teeth more

> > vulnerable (in addition to the other really BAD neurological and

> other

> > side-effects of flouride and flouride-based products).

> >

> > Cavities can also form when the pH of the mouth is out of balance

> and

> > that can be diet-related.

> >

> > I'll see if I can dig up some archives and other info from around

> the

> > net to re-share....it make take me a while as we're in a 3-day

> holiday

> > here and I have the kids home. In the meantime, you may try a

> quick

> > Google search for " flouride dental dangers " -- lots of articles

> there.

> >

> > One thorough site is www.flouridealert.org

> >

> > Liz (aka ilizzy) will probably write soon, too - she's the " queen

> of

> > flouride danger references "

> >

>

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From http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/76975.php

Fluoride Damages Teeth, New Warning By Dentists

17 Jul 2007

Fluoride ingestion, once thought to reduce cavities, can lead to dental

fluorosis -- white spotted, yellow, brown and/or pitted tooth enamel.

Modern science indicates fluoride absorbs into tooth enamel topically,

primarily.(3)

Studies link dental fluorosis to children's kidney damage (4) and bone

fractures (5).

The ADA and Centers for Disease Control recently advised that

fluoridated water should not be mixed into concentrated infant formula,

in order to decrease dental fluorosis risk -- now a growing U.S.

problem. (6)

Never safety-tested by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration) (7),

fluoride supplements do more harm than good.(8)

MORE FLOURIDE LINKS

World Health Organization (WHO):

Chemical Hazards in Drinking Water - Fluoride

<http://www.who.int/water_sanitation_health/dwq/chemicals/fluoride/en/>

Fluoride Action Network (FAN):

Fluoride Hazards Reported <http://www.fluoridealert.org/news/2567.html>

Thyroid Info:

Fluoride: A Bad Idea Whose Time Has Passed

<http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/shamesfluoride.htm>

The Optimal Wellness Center is a reference point for guiding healthcare

professionals and consumers through the information resources of the

Internet. Fluoride Action Network (Excellent Resource, Very Up-to-Date)

www.fluoridealert.org

Fluorides and Fluoridation, Leading-Edge Research Group, by Val

Verlerian (Many scanned documents; probably the biggest site.)

members.xoom.com/_XMCM/trufax/fluoride/fluorides.html

Fluoride Facts

www.fluoridation.com

Fluoride Controversy, the Townsend Letter for Doctors and Patients

www.tldp.com/fluoride.htm

Citizens for Safe Drinking Water (Mountain View, California)

www.nofluoride.com

Fluoride, Teeth, and the Atomic Bomb

www.inter-view.net/~sherrell/bomb.htm

More Scientific Facts on Fluoride

www.all-natural.com/fleffect.html

Fluoride Issues

www.sonic.net/~kryptox/fluoride.htm

Fluoride Research Journal

www.fluoride-journal.com/contents.htm

Elkie Babiuk Site

www.cadvision.com/fluoride/index.htm

Fluroide Impairing Thyroid Health

www.bruha.com/fluoride/html/thyroid_page.htm

Preventive Dental Health Site

emporium.turnpike.net/P/PDHA/health.htm

The Fluoride Stop, by s Schuld

(s is especially expert about fluoride/thyroid effects)

www.bruha.com/fluoride

Stop Fluoridation U.S.A., by Darlene Sherrill (Diverse information)

www.rvi.net/~fluoride

Scholarly Journal of the International Society for Fluoride Research

www.fluoride-journal.com/index.htm

Fluoride Issues - Dan Montgomery (includes current news)

www.sonic.net/~kryptox/fluoride.htm

" America Overdosed on Fluoride " , by Lynn Landes

(includes e-mail correspondence in which an ADA spokesperson refutes

news reports that non-fluoridated bottled water causes cavities, and

what you can do to ban fluoride and educate others.)

www.zerowasteamerica.org/fluorideoverdose.htm

Ellie Rudolph's Site

(Find out if your Pennsylvania town or city water is fluoridated.)

www.penweb.org/issues/fluoride/index.html

The Toxic Effects of Fluoride

(Be aware that they are selling a fluoride removal system.)

www.wholywater.com/fluoride.html

Fluoridation Debate

(Environmental Health Perspectives, Volume 105, Number 11, November 1997)

ehpnet1.niehs.nih.gov/docs/1997/105-11/forum.html

Fluoridation: The Overdosing of America --- Fact or Fiction?

(Slides by Gerald H. , D.D.S.)

www.icnr.com/FluoridePres.html

Oregon Citizens for Safe Drinking Water

www.keepers-of-the-well.org/oregon

Darryl W. Roundy, D.C. --- Fluoride Research

www.atlaschiro.com/fluorideresch.htm

Fluoride: Commie Plot or Capitalist Ploy, by Griffiths,

investigative reporter

www.scruz.net/~paul/issues/Fluoride.html

Fluoride: Wide Range of Serious Health Problems, by Shirley

Lipschutz-

www.geocities.com/hotsprings/1158/fluoride.htm

Fluoridated Toothpastes must now be labeled " POISON, " by Charlotte Gerson

www.geocities.com/Eureka/Enterprises/8669/flpoison.html

Fluoride: Public Health Goal

www.saveteeth.org./index.htm

Scientific Facts on the Biological Effects of Fluorides

www.all-natural.com/fleffect.html

Fluoridation --- Fluoride --- Toxic Chemicals In Your Water

www.holisticmed.com/fluoride

Null's Site

www.garynull.com/issues/fluoride/fluorideactionfile.htm

Does water fluoridation have negative side effects?

doctoryourself.com/fluoride_cancer.html

Fluoride's Effect on Your Brain

www.realityi.org/fluoridePoison.htm

American Dental Association page on flouride

http://www.ada.org/public/topics/fluoride/index.asp

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debjward wrote:

> In my experience many parents do not recommend it but I have never

> had a dentist not recommend flouride.

Being a " dutiful " American-raised mother, I asked our dentist about

flouride a few years ago and he laughed at me for having asked, saying

that flouride is not added to our acqueduct water supply and that we do

not need to give the kids flouride supplements at all. I will offer

that we do not live in the US and that professional opinions on this

subject do vary depending on where in the world you live. They DO

however put flouride in most toothpastes here just the same, although we

can find some without for both adults and kids. We're currently using

Thieves toothpastes from Living Young, but they are very spicey and I

would not recommend them for small children.

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