] Re: Why I MUST do MORE than just fish oils - Liz

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the fish oil help. More EPA and figuring out our borage

oil dilemma and considering primrose oil may take us even further.

Thankyou.

>

> Janice not sure if you know that borage oil may be a problem in

large

> dosages if it's not made from the borage seed alone. The ProEFA

> contains borage oil from just the seed. If you use another brand

> make sure it's from the borage seed -not the entire plant. (has to

> do with a study about the PAs which could be in the plant)

>

> And Liz -another Omega 6 that is found in both Efalex and EyeQ is

Primrose oil

> and it's also used with success for most. For most -we only need

> about a 5 to 1 ratio of Omega 3 (preferably EPA not so much DHA)

over

> the GLA. Again I am only addressing the majority which is where I

> advice new people to start...and if that doesn't work for some

reason

> your child is probably in the less than 10% to explore other means.

>

> Perhaps the answer to know for sure what formula of fish oil is

> needed isn't even being used yet to test the children here that are

> found to be " high " or " low " in this or that since we are dealing

with

> neurological conditions -so we need to know what crosses the blood

> brain barrier not what's showing up in the blood. Also what part of

> the blood is being tested? Here's more on that from an archive of

> information from 2002

>

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~yes another start of another archive

>

> Re: New Member-Debby, Yeah!, and a few questions.

>

>

>

> Debbie -the signs EFAs are working come in one day to three weeks

> almost across the board when it's the right formula and dosage, and

> when your child is in the majority (who it works for)

> http://www.cherab.org/information/dietaryeffects/Englemed.html

> http://www.cherab.org/information/historyEFA.html

>

> There appears to be only a handful it doesn't work for -and they may

> be the rare

> child who would have had apraxia anyway. Apraxia used to be rare -

and

> from the

> families that have apraxic children now -it's not genetic -nobody

> knows where

> it's from! (especially in Jersey where historically we all speak a

> mile a

> minute!)

>

> If you didn't see the messages on this and don't know how to

search -

> go to

> messages. Look for the search box and put in key words like ProEFA

> and press go.

> If you don't see what you are looking for -press next till you do.

>

> Here is almost all of the archive message here

> http://www.speech-express.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=620

>

> One question I have is what is the formula and brand name of " Omega

> supplements " you are using -fish oils are not all the same. Look at

> the bottle and please post the DHA, EPA and GLA etc. here. Thanks!

>

> As far as books -I co authored The Late Talker with

> neurodevelopmental pediatrician Dr. Marilyn Agin who is the Medical

> Director for NYC Early Intervention (the largest of it's kind in the

> US) and Malcolm Nicholl who is an international journalist and also

> the co author of The LCP Solution book with Dr. Stordy (the creator

> of the Omega 3 and Omega 6 Efalex EFA formula most of us used years

> ago before ProEFA) Dr. Agin recently wrote the cover feature

> article for the pediatric medical trade magazine Contemporary

> Pediatrics.

> Cover feature article by Late Talker co-author Marilyn Agin MD

>

http://www.contemporarypediatrics.com/contpeds/article/articleDetail.j

sp?id=132720

>

> Parent guide of article by Late Talker co-author

[Guest guest]

For us, in the end, it was NOT the Fish oil that Mark was deficient in but the

Omega 6 which is found in Borage Oil. Could it be that the children who Must

have the Borage Oil in order to respond are actually deficient in Omega 6....

[sPAM][ ] Re: Why I MUST do MORE than just fish

oils - Liz

Liz I think there are a number of brands that do not have borage

oil. Although if I remember correctly there was some discussion in

the past that some children do not respond to fish oil without it.

Anyway, here's a page that has several without borage -

http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/search/en/query.jsp?q=Omega+3 & source=Go-

Omega3 & gcid=S19283x001 & keyword=omega%203%20fatty%

20acids & gclid=CKD1nM6M25ECFQy1PAodGW8fgQ

I know first hand that Coromega doesn't have borage oil but I don't

know what other ingredients you may be avoiding.

>

> Speaking of fish oil. Does anyone know of one that does not have

the

> borage oil in it? This I have posted before with no answer and I am

> not being sarcastic. I am looking for genuine options.

>

>