Guest guest Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 When my ds was that age he was in a special preschool. He got 3 hours a week of individual therapy. Now that he is in the public school system (K), he gets 5 hrs a week total, 30 min-group, 30 min- individual daily. If they have a lack of therapists in school, you could get him a private speech therapist for afterschool. HTH, Amber hsm to *8* > > Hi, > > For those who have apraxic children in the public school system, how often is the speech theray and is it in a group or individual setting? > > I have a 33 month-old son, whom I believe is apraxic, but no one would diagnose him. He will be tested by the school district in California next month and I've heard that they are only offering group therapy due to the lack of therapists. I just wanted to know how to advocate for him once the IEP rolls around. > > Thank you so much for your wisdom and input. > > . > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 My child is in public school district special education preschool class. He has speech therapy 30 minutes a day 4 days a week. It is 1 on 1 but they would not put that in his iep. they said some kind of legal matters or whatever. However, I hope they did not tell you themselves that they are short on therapists. because 1, they are not supose to tell people that, if they do get it on paper or recording. and 2, that is not your problem that they are short on help. you have to step up to the plate and do what is best for your child. It is crazy how much we have to fight for our children. Casey R. Heying Remember to Smile, Life isn't that bad is it? From: daizeemom9 <daizeemom@...> Subject: [ ] Re: Speech therapy with public school Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 8:45 AM When my ds was that age he was in a special preschool. He got 3 hours a week of individual therapy. Now that he is in the public school system (K), he gets 5 hrs a week total, 30 min-group, 30 min- individual daily. If they have a lack of therapists in school, you could get him a private speech therapist for afterschool. HTH, Amber hsm to *8* > > Hi, > > For those who have apraxic children in the public school system, how often is the speech theray and is it in a group or individual setting? > > I have a 33 month-old son, whom I believe is apraxic, but no one would diagnose him. He will be tested by the school district in California next month and I've heard that they are only offering group therapy due to the lack of therapists. I just wanted to know how to advocate for him once the IEP rolls around. > > Thank you so much for your wisdom and input. > > . > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 I live in Central FL. When my son was in a Pre-Kindergarten Disabilities class his IEP stated he would get 60 minutes a week of group speech therapy. That's 12 minutes a day with 5 other boys. (My son's class had 6 including my son. Needless to say this did not meet my high standards and I withdrew my son. We're homeschoolers. I just wanted to bring my son to my local public school for additional therapy. He goes to a private SLP twice a week for 60 minutes each individual session. I also work with him daily at home. > > Hi, > > For those who have apraxic children in the public school system, how often is the speech theray and is it in a group or individual setting? > > I have a 33 month-old son, whom I believe is apraxic, but no one would diagnose him. He will be tested by the school district in California next month and I've heard that they are only offering group therapy due to the lack of therapists. I just wanted to know how to advocate for him once the IEP rolls around. > > Thank you so much for your wisdom and input. > > . > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 5x a week individual, but we had to go hrough 2 due process hearings to ge this. sl The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential, proprietary, and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from all computers. Sharon Lang From: debjward <debjward@...> Subject: [ ] Re: Speech therapy with public school Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 4:57 PM I live in Central FL. When my son was in a Pre-Kindergarten Disabilities class his IEP stated he would get 60 minutes a week of group speech therapy. That's 12 minutes a day with 5 other boys. (My son's class had 6 including my son. Needless to say this did not meet my high standards and I withdrew my son. We're homeschoolers. I just wanted to bring my son to my local public school for additional therapy. He goes to a private SLP twice a week for 60 minutes each individual session. I also work with him daily at home. > > Hi, > > For those who have apraxic children in the public school system, how often is the speech theray and is it in a group or individual setting? > > I have a 33 month-old son, whom I believe is apraxic, but no one would diagnose him. He will be tested by the school district in California next month and I've heard that they are only offering group therapy due to the lack of therapists. I just wanted to know how to advocate for him once the IEP rolls around. > > Thank you so much for your wisdom and input. > > . > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 hi, When my son was and aged of our stae Ei program. The school district put him in a head start program run by my state. This was my sons preschool placement by the school district. In the city where where I live this is a common preschool placement for children with IEPs ages 3 to 5 th birthday. My sons IEp at the time stated that he have 2 30 minute individual ST sessions. Which they later changed to 3 20 minute ones. My son would not sit still long enought or stay focused to work with for very long at a time. So they worked with him for short periods. But also they increased the amount of days he went to make up for it. Then when he went to kindergarten he did 2x 30 min sessions and then added 2x 30 min sesions of OT a week. Now at age 10 grade 4 he gets 3x 45 min sessions St and 2x 45 min OT a week. With special Class pullout time of about 4 hrs a day. So he is in his mainstream class about 1 hour and half> Plus is in regular art,music and PE with his class. he does science with them but it is modified and broken down by his one on one aide to his level of work. One on one aide is with him about 4 and half hours a day. Not for the extras or lunch or recess and not for ST and OT. ( Both of them are completely done on one one just ST and OT and my son) . My son he gets distracted very easy and has to have no one present to concentrate. It seems to work out well for him. My son has made huge gains and is now being able to hold conversations with us his family not ones like you and I would but he is trying hard. Speech is still not clear sometimes. Some words are slurred and sound mumbled especially if has to stop amd think before he talks. He does better when he does not have to think much before talking words come out very clear at times. Good Luck. Jeanne NH From: daizeemom9 <daizeemommail (DOT) com> Subject: [childrensapraxiane t] Re: Speech therapy with public school @groups. com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 8:45 AM When my ds was that age he was in a special preschool. He got 3 hours a week of individual therapy. Now that he is in the public school system (K), he gets 5 hrs a week total, 30 min-group, 30 min- individual daily. If they have a lack of therapists in school, you could get him a private speech therapist for afterschool. HTH, Amber hsm to *8* > > Hi, > > For those who have apraxic children in the public school system, how often is the speech theray and is it in a group or individual setting? > > I have a 33 month-old son, whom I believe is apraxic, but no one would diagnose him. He will be tested by the school district in California next month and I've heard that they are only offering group therapy due to the lack of therapists. I just wanted to know how to advocate for him once the IEP rolls around. > > Thank you so much for your wisdom and input. > > . > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 Hi, you can definitely request 1-on-1 therapy to be written down in your next(?) IEP. Insist on it while you are at an IEP meeting! We got it without having a lawyer with us. Our son gets 3 times a week 45 minutes. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 Hi , The school is able to do individual therapy. They like to do group because, it's easier for them. We were able to get individual speech for my daughter (apraxia)when she was in preschool for both years. Now she's in Kindergarten and we have agreed to the group therapy because at this point, it is working well. Do you know other parents that have already dealt with your local school system? One question that always gets them when they say no, is to ask " Where does it state that in writing that you are not able to provide individual therapy? Also, make a list of what you want and what you're willing to compromise on. We were pretty adamant that my daughter get the individual therapy, she also got OT individual 2x week, and PT, 1x a week. We were willing to accept what they were offering in those two areas as long as we got the individual therapy. check out the wrightslaw.com site for some info. Good luck..... > > Hi, > > For those who have apraxic children in the public school system, how often is the speech theray and is it in a group or individual setting? > > I have a 33 month-old son, whom I believe is apraxic, but no one would diagnose him. He will be tested by the school district in California next month and I've heard that they are only offering group therapy due to the lack of therapists. I just wanted to know how to advocate for him once the IEP rolls around. > > Thank you so much for your wisdom and input. > > . > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 Sharon, (and , further down the post) How long did the due process take? I withdrew my son from public school due to chronic lung illness on the advice of a physician and I now homeschool him. He has an IEP that the new school system refuses to implement and they are refusing to give him an evaluation/treatment in the home per his doctor's orders. We have a Pro Bono attorney and are in due process and we have agreed to come in for only the evaluations, but they have to clean the room per health dept standards regarding protocol to prevent disease transmission. Needless to say, they are stalling, they have called the attorney about implementing the protocol, and they still have failed to give us an IEP meeting or evaluation (with letter denoting protocol has been followed) despite 6 months of repeated requests. There is only a few months of school left and he has been a whole school year without therapy. The school's position is that they do not have any therapists to go to the home, but that is just too bad because IDEA (the law) says differently and they will have to hire therapists for his speech and occupational needs. (or in the end, pay up in court for us to do it ourselves until he is 21) This " due process " really has gone on way too long and it looks as if there will be a court proceeding (at least in my eyes). And , It took FIVE years, my diligence, a lot of research and papers printed from the INTERNET (taking them into the doctor to plea my case), in order to get my son diagnosed. I then found out that doctors are reluctant to diagnose Apraxia until the age of five. IMHO, regular pediatricians with no additional training, are just plain ignorant to specialty problems such as this (and other things) and therefore cannot make an adequate diagnosis. I have had to find out the information MYSELF on most of my son's issues and PROVIDE that information to doctors in order to get proper referrals for a correct diagnosis. As a nurse, a mom of an apraxic son, and a very good resercher, I can offer this much information for you to consider about your son>>> Apraxia is a form of brain damage that affects the motor planning in the brain. Apraxia can affect an individual in many ways, one of which is speech. When you notice that your child is clearly unintelligible in speech (which means that by the age of 3 to 4 years old, 80% of what your child says cannot be understood by you or others,thus making his speech unintelligible), then a possible apraxia diagnosis is warranted. I can tell you from what I have learned that " lack of oxygen at birth " is a primary cause of this condition. Nuchal cords (cord wrapped around the baby's neck inutero) can be a precursor to lack of oxygen. Other things like failure of the child to breathe adequately after delivery is another way. > > > > Hi, > > > > For those who have apraxic children in the public school system, how often is the speech theray and is it in a group or individual setting? > > > > I have a 33 month-old son, whom I believe is apraxic, but no one would diagnose him. He will be tested by the school district in California next month and I've heard that they are only offering group therapy due to the lack of therapists. I just wanted to know how to advocate for him once the IEP rolls around. > > > > Thank you so much for your wisdom and input. > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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