Re: Palin's choice puts her under 20%

[Guest guest]

Jealousy or perhaps trying to convince themselves that they made the

right choice :-)

I always laugh when someone thinks their choice makes them superior

for some reason. If it makes you and your family happy, you made the

right choice. It does not make you superior to people who made a

different choice.

>

> What I heard was people outlining their sacrifices. ly, some

of

> the posts sounded jealous or something. We all make sacrifices and

the

> high powered job you once had may have ended regardless if you let

it

> go. Economies change, companies go under. I have never attached

myself

> to a job to the point where it was my identity and the job I had

for

> years before kids was indeed a career. Still, when people asked me

what

> I did I mostly said I read, went to school (at night) and did

sports as

> those were the things I chose to do and more closely related to my

> identity. I understand some here gave up work they loved. I would

urge

> them, if they can, to get some of that work, on a smaller scale,

back,

> if they loved it as it will benefit them and their child greatly.

> Special needs mothering need not mean sacrifice to the point of

> jealousy.

>

[Guest guest]

Becky,

I must say that I quite enjoyed Mrs. Palins speech last night and found her

entertaining. As I speaking as neither a replublican nor a democrat, I was not

ever trying to be political for or against one side or another. I was always

speaking..... and relating.... to my special needs friends/moms who 'get it'.

BUT..... did you notice how absolutely 'floppy' little Trig is? Man.... she has

got her work cut out for her and I hope that they promise and deliver the 'best'

of the 'best' for that boy.

This was my point in my messages previously which got misinterpreted to somehow

suggest that woman shouldn't work which is nuts. My " real " point is that if you

think dyspraxia is tough.... try downs syndrome. It takes all of your heart,

spirit and soul plus 24/7 working with your child and you have to be very, very

strong. It requires the participation of not just the mom nor just the father

but both parents to bring a DS to full potential. Mrs. Palin is obviously

strong and I hope that her energies are placed in the right direction for the

sake of her child.

Becky, I must ask you one question.... don't answer to me.... just answer to

yourself..... who would have done the research for Asa but you? Who would have

found hippotherapy, Omega oils, etc. I believe that you're not replaceable in

his life. I had a great nanny when Mark was little.... but now I have only

questions because I missed so much of his development when he was a little guy.

I was busy with my career and he didn't 'seem' sick..... so I didn't pay

attention and I missed it all coming towards me.... A nanny really doesn't have

mothers' intuition and a mothers 'eye' for 'seeing' her child and his progress.

Okay..... nuf of this.... let's wait and see and wish all the best.

J

[sPAM]Re: [ ] Re: Palin's choice puts her under 20%

I think this EVERY time I have Asa at OT and PT. These women there are

leaving their own children in daycare in order to help mine. I can't tell you

how

much guilt that gives me-- and I am truly thankful for them

But-- truth be told, I would be more blessed to know they were able to stay

at home and enjoy their kids as I am with mine.

Becky

In a message dated 9/2/2008 8:37:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

searcy33@... writes:

What about the wonderful therapists who have special needs children of

their own??

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[Guest guest]

Liz, I was the first one to admit a little of that, but that would make me

admire her normally, I admire high energy go-getter women--withing what's

humanly possible.  I just think she's not superhuman--and within mortal limits

you cannot set out to be a dedicated mother to a newborn DS baby and other kids

and run for VP of the US/Governor etc. Something has got to give at this point

in her life.

You're the one who pointed out she ran to her job 3 days after birth. in my book

that's nuts! Now I know she had to, and she may be really strong, physically,

emotionally etc. but her baby is still a baby and a more sensitive one than

average at that and  that's my point!  A mother of a new born, especially one

with such potentially difficult health/developmental issues should not have to

make this choice.  She put herself in the situation to do that and I just

question what's going to go and have to give and her choices will be tough

indeed.

I heard her speak too and she sounds believable up to a point, and if I didn't

know what special needs implies--as Janice in a recent post said, how can she do

all those things only a mom can do, research, read dedicate herself entirely to

her child at least in the first few weeks after birth?  That's why there's

maternity leave for all babies and those first few weeks to bond and really look

your baby over as only a mother can are priceless. Whatever, I'm letting go of

the topic, just not convinced she can be superhuman and in two places at once

and not have any regrets later...

From: ilizzy03 <lizlaw@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Palin's choice puts her under 20%

Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 9:12 AM

What I heard was people outlining their sacrifices. ly, some of

the posts sounded jealous or something. We all make sacrifices and the

high powered job you once had may have ended regardless if you let it

go. Economies change, companies go under. I have never attached myself

to a job to the point where it was my identity and the job I had for

years before kids was indeed a career. Still, when people asked me what

I did I mostly said I read, went to school (at night) and did sports as

those were the things I chose to do and more closely related to my

identity. I understand some here gave up work they loved. I would urge

them, if they can, to get some of that work, on a smaller scale, back,

if they loved it as it will benefit them and their child greatly.

Special needs mothering need not mean sacrifice to the point of

jealousy.

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[Guest guest]

Exactly.

 

 

sharon

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From: elmccann <elmccann@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Palin's choice puts her under 20%

Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 10:25 AM

Jealousy or perhaps trying to convince themselves that they made the

right choice :-)

I always laugh when someone thinks their choice makes them superior

for some reason. If it makes you and your family happy, you made the

right choice. It does not make you superior to people who made a

different choice.

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure exactly where this is coming from.

[Guest guest]

I am not going to comment on this further beyond this because it is too

political and many have asked for it to stop. My initial comments were

because I felt people were beating up on another mom and this list is

for support. As for the rest, I am not voting for a candidate based on

whether or not they are a good parent so most of the discussion, to me,

is largely irrelevant.

[Guest guest]

Janice,

Honestly when I think back with both kids, who remain young, I have

often wondered if they were in daycare would I have noticed things

faster. pooped so much and I have a friend whose kid has

stuff and the daycare pointed out the excess poop to her earlier than

it dawned on me. Still, to be fair to myself I did have loads of

questions and concerns that were blown off by the pros that are

relevant and I am glad I was there to see these things as some were

subtle. The research, well, I am a research rat just like you and

while I have not done it all right by any means I do give myself an A

for effort.

I do see where you and many others are coming from. I just hold true

to the whole thing about different kinds of moms, letting each other

be the parent they are best suited to be, etc. Having been raised by

an unprepared dad who was thrust into single-parenthood and met and

surpassed the challenge I am uncertain I can see this another way but

never want to fight with my mommy friends. My hubby, who observed a

lot and is onboard far more than I could have hoped will be the first

to tell you I am driving the bus. I am just uncertain it is because I

am a mom or an unhealthy control freak. Either way the kids are

mostly getting better (we still must figure out those pesky

allergies) and I am blessed.

All the best always:)

L

[Guest guest]

In truth, I have to say that I've thoroughly enjoyed these posts! I am proud to

call you all intelligent, extremely interesting and wonderful, patriotic moms!

Though the viewpoints differ, all of the opinions put forth were articulate and

very interesting. It gave me a true understanding of all sides and helped me to

appreciate watching Palin speak last night.

You are all a great gang of moms! .....diverse opinions and all!

It will be fun watching the election and I hope that in the end, all our

children get the needed help they deserve and that North America prospers!

(Can't get much worse these days.... the only place to go is straight up!)

Cheers to you all

Janice

[sPAM]Re: [ ] Re: Palin's choice puts her under 20%

Well-- not playing the devil's advocate here-- but keep in mind that

1. he was sleeping for the better portion of the night so would be floppy

and

2. Is still only 4 mos old, and definitely would be floppy

bek

In a message dated 9/4/2008 9:37:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

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BUT..... did you notice how absolutely 'floppy' little Trig is? Man.... she

has got her work cut out for her and I hope that they promise and deliver the

'best' of the 'best' for that boy.

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[Guest guest]

Regarding the floppy baby issue, my daughter's developmental pediatrician told

me at her first visit -- 6 weeks of age  -- that in 25 years of practice, Maddy

was the floppiest baby she had ever seen. She did not ever expect her to walk. 

She thought she would sit -- around age 3.

 

Let me tell you I read something in college when I was studying premed (not the

right choice for me), and I wish I had saved this data, but what is considered

standard medical knowledge is refuted 50 percent of the time within I want to

say 100 year period,not sureof the time line there.  Don't quote me.  We all

know that medical science used to use leaches for blood letting and frontal

lobotomies on patients.  I don't give too much weight to what doctors tell me. 

I have had more be wrong than right when it comes to our child.

 

I won't give you the full details, but Maddy sat at 9 months and walked at 5

years.   She does not stop moving and some days I wish she would sit down.  

Palin's son will do just fine with aquatherapy and some goot pt, and ot, and I

am sure slp.  I expect that the state of Alaska will pay very well for his

therapies, if not the federal government.  If anything, I would imagine he will

get better medical care if Palin becomes vp than if she is governor.  

 

I don't have any doubt that he will get the best of care.  I do conceed that no

one is going to care more about your child than you do, but that does not mean

that others don't help along the way.  We all need help, and especially

from other moms of special needs kids.

 

 

Sharon

 

 

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From: tbniesh@... <tbniesh@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Palin's choice puts her under 20%

Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 1:43 PM

Well-- not playing the devil's advocate here-- but keep in mind that

1. he was sleeping for the better portion of the night so would be floppy

and

2. Is still only 4 mos old, and definitely would be floppy

bek

In a message dated 9/4/2008 9:37:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

jscottinterbaun (DOT) com writes:

BUT..... did you notice how absolutely 'floppy' little Trig is? Man.... she

has got her work cut out for her and I hope that they promise and deliver the

'best' of the 'best' for that boy.

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[Guest guest]

> From: ilizzy03 <lizlaw@...>

> Subject: [ ] Re: Palin's choice puts her under 20%

>

> Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 9:12 AM

>

> What I heard was people outlining their sacrifices. ly, some

of

> the posts sounded jealous or something. We all make sacrifices and

the

> high powered job you once had may have ended regardless if you let

it

> go. Economies change, companies go under. I have never attached

myself

> to a job to the point where it was my identity and the job I had

for

> years before kids was indeed a career. Still, when people asked me

what

> I did I mostly said I read, went to school (at night) and did

sports as

> those were the things I chose to do and more closely related to my

> identity. I understand some here gave up work they loved. I would

urge

> them, if they can, to get some of that work, on a smaller scale,

back,

> if they loved it as it will benefit them and their child greatly.

> Special needs mothering need not mean sacrifice to the point of

> jealousy.

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Jealous? Maybe. Frustrated out of my mind about not having the

financial, medical or social support I could sure use to raise my

kids to be contributing members of this society? You bet! And when

someone pretends they can do it all, it just adds to my frustration

because it says to the world not much is needed to get it all done, I

should just try harder. And that's not anywhere near the truth. My

last words on this.

> > From: ilizzy03 <lizlaw@>

> > Subject: [ ] Re: Palin's choice puts her under

20%

> >

> > Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 9:12 AM

> >

> > What I heard was people outlining their sacrifices. ly, some

> of

> > the posts sounded jealous or something. We all make sacrifices

and

> the

> > high powered job you once had may have ended regardless if you

let

> it

> > go. Economies change, companies go under. I have never attached

> myself

> > to a job to the point where it was my identity and the job I had

> for

> > years before kids was indeed a career. Still, when people asked

me

> what

> > I did I mostly said I read, went to school (at night) and did

> sports as

> > those were the things I chose to do and more closely related to

my

> > identity. I understand some here gave up work they loved. I would

> urge

> > them, if they can, to get some of that work, on a smaller scale,

> back,

> > if they loved it as it will benefit them and their child greatly.

> > Special needs mothering need not mean sacrifice to the point of

> > jealousy.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >