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Sorry to hear you still have no relief from that pain. I have faith in this group and believe we have settled down to give support to each other. I know you have tried many things but ti seems there must be some solution for you!

You know I live close and I would be happy to help if there is anyway that I can. ... Even if you do have all those animals...I'll wear my boots! LOL

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To Everyone: I have not been able to post or read many emails recently due to severe back pain.I pray that all will settle down and that we can bring our group back to what it was before, a peaceful and loving support group, which we all desperately need.To all who have had recent procedures, may you be blessed with good results. For those who are awaiting procedures, may they go smoothly for you and pain free.And, especially for those who are awaiting a new liver, may God bless you with the perfect one and hasten your wait.For all of you who are suffering the day-to-day pains and inconveniences of this disease, as well as multiple diseases, may God give you the strength and courage and sense of humor to carry on with grace.I pray that God will place His hand on this group and calm the waters.Love and prayers -gina

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> For all of you who are suffering the day-to-day pains and

inconveniences of

> this disease, as well as multiple diseases, may God give you the

strength and

> courage and sense of humor to carry on with grace.

Hi

Thank you for those wonderful thoughts. Some days are really hard to

handle. I try to think possitve thoughts as much as I can.

Hugs, Ginger

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I love this group and believe that we could all do so much to share our

experiences. It is so true that we all must find restraint and not abuse others

who hold different opinions.

Janice

[sPAM][ ] Our support group

Due to circumstances, I've been speaking to some of the original

moderators who have not been posting here but who want to come back.

There is going to be a few tweaks to this group to get this group

back to being a warm, supportive and informative place to come. In

the coming weeks you will be seeing more posts from some of the " old

timers " that have words of wisdom to share and we are looking forward

to more of this group feeling free to also join in to share their

views.

We are aware that what works for most doesn't work for all and as

always encourage everyone to share their view as well as

alternatives. However there are strategies or therapies that are

known by professionals as well as parents to be more or less

appropriate for the majority. New parents to our group are looking

for guidance as to what would be the best way to start.

We may not all agree, but we will encourage all to write their

opinions in a way that doesn't hurt others. We will no longer post

messages that express opinions in an angry way.

It will still be the same group -just a bit warmer. A place to come

and share information and hopes and fears and strategies -like it was

for the most part for it's entire existence.

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That is so nice to hear. I came to this group for help and direction

but I read alot of bickering and not alot of helpful information

unless I looked way back. I actually left soon after finding ya'll

because I did feel like this was a support group I was looking for.

But after recieving this message from the moderator I will be back

for help and support. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!!!

>

> Due to circumstances, I've been speaking to some of the original

> moderators who have not been posting here but who want to come back.

> There is going to be a few tweaks to this group to get this group

> back to being a warm, supportive and informative place to come. In

> the coming weeks you will be seeing more posts from some of the " old

> timers " that have words of wisdom to share and we are looking

forward

> to more of this group feeling free to also join in to share their

> views.

>

> We are aware that what works for most doesn't work for all and as

> always encourage everyone to share their view as well as

> alternatives. However there are strategies or therapies that are

> known by professionals as well as parents to be more or less

> appropriate for the majority. New parents to our group are looking

> for guidance as to what would be the best way to start.

>

> We may not all agree, but we will encourage all to write their

> opinions in a way that doesn't hurt others. We will no longer post

> messages that express opinions in an angry way.

>

> It will still be the same group -just a bit warmer. A place to

come

> and share information and hopes and fears and strategies –like it

was

> for the most part for it's entire existence.

>

> =====

>

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THANK YOU! It is nice to hear. I am also a member of Natural Late Talkers.

Which is a very great support group. I would recommend it for help encouraging

speech and language development. It has helped me tremendously. I have held

off looking here as much b/c it makes me sad when the moms are trying to one up

each other and make one feel inferior for doing what they think to be right. It

was frustrating to read what I did read b/c I wanted to scream, " you are BOTH

right!! " And your children are all very lucky to have all of you. Obviously

everyone here is very convicted to do right by their children. I am glad

moderators will take the focus in the right direction.

Kris Reichert <reicherts6@...> wrote:

That is so nice to hear. I came to this group for help and direction

but I read alot of bickering and not alot of helpful information

unless I looked way back. I actually left soon after finding ya'll

because I did feel like this was a support group I was looking for.

But after recieving this message from the moderator I will be back

for help and support. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!!!

>

> Due to circumstances, I've been speaking to some of the original

> moderators who have not been posting here but who want to come back.

> There is going to be a few tweaks to this group to get this group

> back to being a warm, supportive and informative place to come. In

> the coming weeks you will be seeing more posts from some of the " old

> timers " that have words of wisdom to share and we are looking

forward

> to more of this group feeling free to also join in to share their

> views.

>

> We are aware that what works for most doesn't work for all and as

> always encourage everyone to share their view as well as

> alternatives. However there are strategies or therapies that are

> known by professionals as well as parents to be more or less

> appropriate for the majority. New parents to our group are looking

> for guidance as to what would be the best way to start.

>

> We may not all agree, but we will encourage all to write their

> opinions in a way that doesn't hurt others. We will no longer post

> messages that express opinions in an angry way.

>

> It will still be the same group -just a bit warmer. A place to

come

> and share information and hopes and fears and strategies –like it

was

> for the most part for it's entire existence.

>

> =====

>

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Although I know my GD is not one of the natural late talkers (oh how I

wish she were) - I so agree with 's post. It is just do hard in

the beginning to start learning all of this and then all of a sudden

feel like you are not doing enough . DAN docs and biomed wise and diet

wise. I am an educated former public school kindergarten teacher and

my school was on the lower socio-economic side of the tracks so to

speak. Maybe some of you can understand that I have taught every type

of child in the world it seems like, from crack children to who knows

what, and I NEVER, EVER had a child with apraxia.

Because of this list, I have been able to look back and see where the

children who had SID tendencies were in my classroom - but I had never

been educated in regards to this and their parents had no idea either -

but they knew what it took for their child to cope and trust me, I

learned to believe in the parent and that they knew best!!!!

I think this list is headed back in the right direction!! I totally

respect the opinion of all parents and what they think is helping their

child to succeed. I also know what it feels like to not really believe

what they do and to also not have the money to pursue their methods.

Trust me, that is not a good feeling . . . the what ifs. . . .

Sincerely,

Pam in GA.

kristen cook wrote:

>

> THANK YOU! It is nice to hear. I am also a member of Natural Late

> Talkers. Which is a very great support group. I would recommend it for

> help encouraging speech and language development. It has helped me

> tremendously. I have held off looking here as much b/c it makes me sad

> when the moms are trying to one up each other and make one feel

> inferior for doing what they think to be right. It was frustrating to

> read what I did read b/c I wanted to scream, " you are BOTH right!! "

> And your children are all very lucky to have all of you. Obviously

> everyone here is very convicted to do right by their children. I am

> glad moderators will take the focus in the right direction.

>

>

> Kris Reichert <reicherts6@... <mailto:reicherts6%40>>

> wrote:

> That is so nice to hear. I came to this group for help and direction

> but I read alot of bickering and not alot of helpful information

> unless I looked way back. I actually left soon after finding ya'll

> because I did feel like this was a support group I was looking for.

> But after recieving this message from the moderator I will be back

> for help and support. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!!!

>

>

> >

> > Due to circumstances, I've been speaking to some of the original

> > moderators who have not been posting here but who want to come back.

> > There is going to be a few tweaks to this group to get this group

> > back to being a warm, supportive and informative place to come. In

> > the coming weeks you will be seeing more posts from some of the " old

> > timers " that have words of wisdom to share and we are looking

> forward

> > to more of this group feeling free to also join in to share their

> > views.

> >

> > We are aware that what works for most doesn't work for all and as

> > always encourage everyone to share their view as well as

> > alternatives. However there are strategies or therapies that are

> > known by professionals as well as parents to be more or less

> > appropriate for the majority. New parents to our group are looking

> > for guidance as to what would be the best way to start.

> >

> > We may not all agree, but we will encourage all to write their

> > opinions in a way that doesn't hurt others. We will no longer post

> > messages that express opinions in an angry way.

> >

> > It will still be the same group -just a bit warmer. A place to

> come

> > and share information and hopes and fears and strategies --like it

> was

> > for the most part for it's entire existence.

> >

> > =====

> >

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Thanks Becky and Molly! I totally agree. I also am concerned about

the " new direction " as I'm fairly new to this group and have a son

who needs more intervention than just fish oil, vitamin E, and speech

therapy. It's been those moms who " get that " that have helped me and

encouraged me so much! I hope this group can welcome (that doesn't

necessarily mean agree with) the fact that there are many types of

interventions that can be helpful. Personally, I will feel alienated

if this group becomes mostly/only about fish oil, vitamin E, speech

therapy, and school placement....and if there are posts that are

being censored that can be helpful for people on this board.

in CA

>

> I totally agree with Becky here. I think the topic of controlling

group dynamics is what some people do their dissertations on and

there they are usually studying groups of 20 or 30 people or maybe up

to 100 but certainly not the 7,653 people we have in this group. I

think it is awesome how this group works and if it does " change " , I

hope it is not by too much, or in anyway that will stifle natural

discussions.

>

> Molly

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Hi and Molly --

I totally agree. I feel that all interventions that work are worth a post.

Somethings work for one child and not another. I have had many professionals,

slp, ot, behavioralists etc. echo this sentiment as well.

We personally have had no success with the fish oil and vitamin e (although

she did have to go off of the e for a couple of surgeries).

Her success is coming from Rosenfeld- oral motor exercises,

PROMPT, The Listening program and NACD exercises. We also had great success with

mild Hyperbaric oxygen, but it was not sustainable success. Once the treatments

stopped, so did the speech. Plus, it was not covered by insurance and quite

expensive.

Let's keep an open mind about things but remember that most of us on this

board are parnets and are not really authorized to give advice to other parents.

It is all antectdoctal until studies exist that verify data. I really don't

want sensorship of topics. I am totally open to interventions that are safe and

have the potential to help her speech.

I welcome all input, and we just parents need to filter and run things past

local professionals who work with the child. I am very results oriented. As a

non-professional that is what I feel is the best approach .

Sharon

spearson40 <brentsusan@...> wrote:

Thanks Becky and Molly! I totally agree. I also am concerned about

the " new direction " as I'm fairly new to this group and have a son

who needs more intervention than just fish oil, vitamin E, and speech

therapy. It's been those moms who " get that " that have helped me and

encouraged me so much! I hope this group can welcome (that doesn't

necessarily mean agree with) the fact that there are many types of

interventions that can be helpful. Personally, I will feel alienated

if this group becomes mostly/only about fish oil, vitamin E, speech

therapy, and school placement....and if there are posts that are

being censored that can be helpful for people on this board.

in CA

>

> I totally agree with Becky here. I think the topic of controlling

group dynamics is what some people do their dissertations on and

there they are usually studying groups of 20 or 30 people or maybe up

to 100 but certainly not the 7,653 people we have in this group. I

think it is awesome how this group works and if it does " change " , I

hope it is not by too much, or in anyway that will stifle natural

discussions.

>

> Molly

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I have been part of this group for 5 years and love how it publishes ALL

multidisplinary approaches. I need that with my guy. What normally works with

apraxic kids does not normally work with my son. Yes this group has lifted me

up, gave me tough love and yes its kinda like my cyber family. Even families

have tifs here and there but you know they will never go away....exactly like

this group.

thanks to lisa and all moderators. Your intellegence and kindness always shines

chris

[ ] Our support group

Due to circumstances, I've been speaking to some of the original

moderators who have not been posting here but who want to come back.

There is going to be a few tweaks to this group to get this group

back to being a warm, supportive and informative place to come. In

the coming weeks you will be seeing more posts from some of the " old

timers " that have words of wisdom to share and we are looking forward

to more of this group feeling free to also join in to share their

views.

We are aware that what works for most doesn't work for all and as

always encourage everyone to share their view as well as

alternatives. However there are strategies or therapies that are

known by professionals as well as parents to be more or less

appropriate for the majority. New parents to our group are looking

for guidance as to what would be the best way to start.

We may not all agree, but we will encourage all to write their

opinions in a way that doesn't hurt others. We will no longer post

messages that express opinions in an angry way.

It will still be the same group -just a bit warmer. A place to come

and share information and hopes and fears and strategies –like it was

for the most part for it's entire existence.

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Pam welcome!! We will try to have more new member information as

well to support people when they come here without a diagnosis and

don't know where to start. It's awesome to have teachers here

because there are so many multisensory learning styles we've shared

here over the years and you'll be one of the best to add input on

what worked or didn't work in the classroom with this or that type of

child with a unique learning style. I have a great archive about

various proven approaches for education that I'll archive and post.

For those that wonder about this group. We will of course as always

share all views -we are only moderating so that all parents and

professionals feel comfortable posting again -so no more emails that

make someone feel upset. We want all to feel comfortable to disagree

with what is posted here -and recently many did not.

If you check the archives a large amount of parents and professionals

posted about many subjects for the past 8 years up till recently -and

as far as I recall nothing has been considered off topic. We talk

about holidays, travel, TV, cooking..everything. What doesn't relate to parents

and professionals that care about children?!

We want this group to once again be a warm place that shares all

views –a support group where we all can consider each other friends.

And many of us over the years were not just friends via email –but

got to meet up too- and even the first time we meet it's like we knew

each other for years…because we did!

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thank you so much for the kind words. You have so much to

share yourself being an ABA therapist that has a child with apraxia.

You are one of the " old timers " we hope to hear more from!!

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Thanks for posting this " new direction. "

I'm a new-ish member that's been lurking for a while. I have a two

year old who is only severely verbally apraxic (I don't mean that in

any way other than that's her only medical diagnosis). She doesn't

have autism or any other medical conditions. I almost disenrolled

from this group because every conversation from the time I've joined

has been about autism, fish oil or vitamin E. While I don't mind

people having those conversations because that's a huge part of many

people's lives (and often a " co-condition " with apraxia), the group

just was not seeming like a place that was friendly to just verbal

apraxia as a diagnosis. I felt like my daughter needed to have " more

wrong " to be part of the conversation here.

I came here looking for support because there's such a lack of

information out there on this condition. I'm glad to see that this

may become a great resource for me!

As a little background about us: Our daughter, Katy, is severely

verbally apraxic (no motor apraxia, just verbal). She's 26 months

old, a firecracker and the light of our life. My husband is in the

Air Force and we currently live in Germany, so resources are even more

scarce for us here. We've found a great developmental pediatrician

(who, unfortunately, is getting out of the military and moving to Ohio

to work at an apraxia clinic there) and an American Speech Language

Pathologist who sees us out of her home. We finally got our first

" Mmmm " noise out of her in the last week or so; progress is wonderful!

Again, thanks for posting about the direction and intention of this

group; it helped to make ME feel more comfortable about staying.

Jenn

>

> Pam welcome!! We will try to have more new member information as

> well to support people when they come here without a diagnosis and

> don't know where to start. It's awesome to have teachers here

> because there are so many multisensory learning styles we've shared

> here over the years and you'll be one of the best to add input on

> what worked or didn't work in the classroom with this or that type of

> child with a unique learning style. I have a great archive about

> various proven approaches for education that I'll archive and post.

>

> For those that wonder about this group. We will of course as always

> share all views -we are only moderating so that all parents and

> professionals feel comfortable posting again -so no more emails that

> make someone feel upset. We want all to feel comfortable to disagree

> with what is posted here -and recently many did not.

>

> If you check the archives a large amount of parents and professionals

> posted about many subjects for the past 8 years up till recently -and

> as far as I recall nothing has been considered off topic. We talk

> about holidays, travel, TV, cooking..everything. What doesn't

relate to parents

> and professionals that care about children?!

>

> We want this group to once again be a warm place that shares all

> views –a support group where we all can consider each other friends.

> And many of us over the years were not just friends via email –but

> got to meet up too- and even the first time we meet it's like we knew

> each other for years…because we did!

>

>

> =====

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Hi Jenn and welcome!

Thanks for sharing. This group has from the start been a group

that's made up of parents and professionals who care for children

with many types of speech and/or language delays and/or disorders.

There are parents here for example with undiagnosed " late talkers "

and we just have not heard from them in awhile. It's actually a

really good thing when there is a mix of us to share because we all

learn from each other as many diagnoses can overlap -or down the road

we learn that our child does have co diagnosis.

While this group is open to parents of all children with

communication impairments -including hearing impaired, autistic etc.

it wasn't that all that posted recently had a child with autism, or

autism and apraxia –but because of society focus on autism -many here

started following an autism approach -including ABA in some cases!

That's understandable if the much more basic approach to apraxia -ST

and OT and EFAs were tried first and didn't work -but some were

trying that to start.

The overwhelming majority (if you check the archives) have success

with the basic approach to apraxia.

On the other hand- most of us are dealing with more than verbal

apraxia…we just don't know that when our child is 2 -and we learn

through professionals and observations as they continue to grow and

more and more is expected of them. This is also why it's important

to take your child for a neurodevelopmental medical exam when your

child is suspected of apraxia to confirm or rule out other diagnosis

such as sensory integration dysfunction etc. The earlier you know -

the sooner to start appropriate therapies to get them up to speed by

kindergarten.

Don't let it overwhelm you -perhaps we aren't meant to know more

than what we have to know at each stage. We'll be here to help along

the way. It's OK to have any type of emotion when we find out our

child has more than a simple delay –or " more " than " just " verbal

apraxia. And it's OK to be completely overwhelmed and saddened to

find out your child has apraxia. And as I was one of those parents

it's never " just " apraxia when you find out!!!

It's OK to be upset " just " because your child is a " late talker " too!

Please know that I too believed Tanner to just have apraxia and have

my first message posted to a grouplist about that below…but down the

road found out he had a few other things we needed to help him

address. The incredible news is that the majority of our children if

you check history are up to speed to be mainstreamed by kindergarten-

and of course many have learned with communication impaired children

that it's best to start kindergarten at 6 vs. 5 to give them that one

extra year of therapy and developmental time.

If you have questions after reading the following please share them.

This group has always been a wealth of information for all of us, no

matter how long we've been here.

Below is a new member archived message, and an " EFA 101 basics "

archived message to hopefully answer more of your

questions for now (did you read The Late Talker yet?) For updated

information on vitamin E and more - please visit the links section

here

/links

What type of apraxic like speech behaviors are you seeing that makes

you and the SLP suspect your child has apraxia vs. a simple delay in

speech? Is your child talking at all yet? At your child's age -

without speech, it's difficult to diagnose verbal apraxia -they

could " suspect " verbal apraxia and begin treatment just in case,

which wouldn't hurt your child if he ended up just having a simple

delay. Just a few questions before we could provide more accurate

answers:

Does your child have signs of oral apraxia? (for example, can he on

command smile, imitate funny faces, blow bubbles...if you put peanut

butter anywhere around his mouth can he lick it off no matter where

it is?)

http://www.cherab.org/information/speechlanguage/oralapraxia.html

Does your child have any neurological " soft signs " such as hypotonia

or sensory integration dysfunction?

http://www.cherab.org/information/speechlanguage/parentfriendlysoftsigns.html

Who else evaluated your child? Was it only the SLP through your

town school or was he also in Early Intervention through the state?

(birth to three) Was he evaluated by both a speech pathologist as

well as an occupational therapist? Was/were they knowledgeable

about apraxia? (If your child wasn't diagnosed by an occupational

therapist as well and professionals suspect apraxia -I highly

recommend you request that too either through both the school as

well as private through insurance for many reasons)

To answer any questions you may have about taking your child to see a

neurodevelopmental MD if he has not yet been to one and apraxia is

suspected... in one word - " Yes!!! " I would have your child diagnosed

(private) by a neurodevelopmental medical doctor (developmental

pediatrician or pediatric neurologist) who is knowledgeable about

apraxia and other neurologically based multi-faceted communication

impairments for numerous reasons. Reasons include (but not limited

to)

*having a " hero " on the outside of the school who can assist in a

therapeutic plan and oversee your child's development over the years

*advocacy support with the insurance company

* ruling out or confirming any neurological soft signs or any other

reasons for the delay in speech

*help those that ask " why isn't he talking yet " understand this is a

medical condition -and has nothing to do with your child's cognitive

ability. (if in your child's case it doesn't. Apraxia in itself

does not affect a child's cognitive ability -and speaking early or

late is no indication of a child's intelligence. Also contrary to

popular belief -most who have speech impairments have average to

above average intelligence)

Here's an article written by Neurodevelopmental Pediatrician Dr.

Marilyn Agin that was featured as a cover article in Contemporary

Pediatrics -a trade magazine for hundreds of thousands of pediatric

medical professionals across the US. (I wrote the parent guide)

" The " late talker " -when silence isn't golden

Not all children with delayed speech are " little Einsteins " or garden

variety " late bloomers. " Some have a speech-language disorder that

will persist unless warning signs are recognized and intervention

comes early. Includes a Guide for Parents. "

Cover feature article by Late Talker co-author Marilyn Agin MD

http://www.contemporarypediatrics.com/contpeds/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=1327\

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Parent guide of article by Late Talker co-author

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thank you so much for the kind words. You have so much to

share yourself being an ABA therapist that has a child with apraxia.

You are one of the " old timers " we hope to hear more from!!

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Jenn-

I wanted to add WELCOME to the group-- I hope you post more often. I'm

sure that there are many challenges that you face being in Germany and in the

military, and those challenges would maybe help many others dealing with

similar situations. I'm sure you have a lot to offer the group!

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I think that , you've brought up a VERY good point. I know that there

are several parents here with very young diagnosed toddlers, and something

that I wish I knew ahead of time is the chances of my child having MORE than

" just " Verbal Apraxia. I wish someone had prepared me for that--

The last statistic I've seen on this is an overwhelming 90% Co-morbidity

rate for those with Verbal Apraxia to also have some other condition, usually

Global Apraxia, which is why we see kids with low muscle tone in their trunk, or

gross/fine motor issues, etc.

I wasn't aware of this in the beginning, so was a little shocked to find out

that as he got a little older, it became more and more evident that there

was " something more " there other than just the verbal apraxia.

Becky

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really good thing when there is a mix of us to share because we all

learn from each other as many diagnoses can overlap -or down the road

we learn that our child does have co diagnosis.

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Becky,

It is almost as though Mark got diagnosed in 'stages'. Before being diagnosed

with dyspraxia, he was diagnosed with expressive and receptive language

delays.... a year later, it was hypotonia and gross motor delay.... wait another

year and then we had fine motor delay (on the 15% so it was pretty severe) and

then FINALLY in first grade, he was diagnosed with dyspraxia.

Quite frankly.... he had it all along but no one wanted to diagnose a child so

young..... today we recognize the importance of early intervention but still not

every one is qualified to diagnose dyspraxia so they give you little 'hints'

with words like motor planning issues and hypotonia ake dyspraxia.

If you have hypotonia.... you are on the road towards dyspraxia especially if

your child is apraxic. Work it YOUNG! The younger the better.... Don't wait

and see.....

My Dad was talking today about how wonderful Mark's recovery is and how it is so

amazing that he has come so far. He is a bit of a fuddy-duddy and always

believed Mark to be autistic and never quite believed that he could get

better.....

I indicated that my son's dyspraxia would never have seen grade 1 had I known at

age 3 what I know today. We talked about the importance of telling others and

letting people know that kids simply do not grow out of this condition but must

be recovered from this condition. Recovery is possible but it is time consuming

and requires determination and unwavering 'belief' on the part of the parents.

Janice

Mother of Mark, 13

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I think that , you've brought up a VERY good point. I know that there

are several parents here with very young diagnosed toddlers, and something

that I wish I knew ahead of time is the chances of my child having MORE than

" just " Verbal Apraxia. I wish someone had prepared me for that--

The last statistic I've seen on this is an overwhelming 90% Co-morbidity

rate for those with Verbal Apraxia to also have some other condition, usually

Global Apraxia, which is why we see kids with low muscle tone in their trunk,

or

gross/fine motor issues, etc.

I wasn't aware of this in the beginning, so was a little shocked to find out

that as he got a little older, it became more and more evident that there

was " something more " there other than just the verbal apraxia.

Becky

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kiddietalk@... writes:

It's actually a

really good thing when there is a mix of us to share because we all

learn from each other as many diagnoses can overlap -or down the road

we learn that our child does have co diagnosis.

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I hope so. We se great things with speech and even the tone is good

but the hand that was a problem from the start is doing a peekaboo

thing. One day at a time.Not giving up, not doing anything rash out

of desperation.

>

> Becky,

>

> It is almost as though Mark got diagnosed in 'stages'. Before

being diagnosed with dyspraxia, he was diagnosed with expressive and

receptive language delays.... a year later, it was hypotonia and

gross motor delay.... wait another year and then we had fine motor

delay (on the 15% so it was pretty severe) and then FINALLY in first

grade, he was diagnosed with dyspraxia.

>

> Quite frankly.... he had it all along but no one wanted to diagnose

a child so young..... today we recognize the importance of early

intervention but still not every one is qualified to diagnose

dyspraxia so they give you little 'hints' with words like motor

planning issues and hypotonia ake dyspraxia.

>

> If you have hypotonia.... you are on the road towards dyspraxia

especially if your child is apraxic. Work it YOUNG! The younger the

better.... Don't wait and see.....

>

> My Dad was talking today about how wonderful Mark's recovery is and

how it is so amazing that he has come so far. He is a bit of a fuddy-

duddy and always believed Mark to be autistic and never quite

believed that he could get better.....

>

> I indicated that my son's dyspraxia would never have seen grade 1

had I known at age 3 what I know today. We talked about the

importance of telling others and letting people know that kids simply

do not grow out of this condition but must be recovered from this

condition. Recovery is possible but it is time consuming and

requires determination and unwavering 'belief' on the part of the

parents.

>

> Janice

> Mother of Mark, 13

>

>

>

>

>

> [sPAM]Re: [ ] Re: Our support group

>

>

> I think that , you've brought up a VERY good point. I know

that there

> are several parents here with very young diagnosed toddlers, and

something

> that I wish I knew ahead of time is the chances of my child

having MORE than

> " just " Verbal Apraxia. I wish someone had prepared me for that--

>

> The last statistic I've seen on this is an overwhelming 90% Co-

morbidity

> rate for those with Verbal Apraxia to also have some other

condition, usually

> Global Apraxia, which is why we see kids with low muscle tone in

their trunk, or

> gross/fine motor issues, etc.

> I wasn't aware of this in the beginning, so was a little shocked

to find out

> that as he got a little older, it became more and more evident

that there

> was " something more " there other than just the verbal apraxia.

>

> Becky

>

>

> In a message dated 3/25/2008 7:46:15 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> kiddietalk@... writes:

>

> It's actually a

> really good thing when there is a mix of us to share because we

all

> learn from each other as many diagnoses can overlap -or down the

road

> we learn that our child does have co diagnosis.

>

> **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the

video on AOL

> Home.

> (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?

ncid=aolhom00030000000001)

>

>

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Thanks! We definitely do have more challenges being here, but that's

part of life and we deal with it and overcome it. We have two more

years left here and after that I have a feeling we'll help " direct "

the military as to where we want to be next to get Katy the best

possible care. They really DO try to take care of families in the

military; if that means that they assign us close to the best

treatment facility they can, then they'll make every attempt to do it.

I'm sure in a year or so I'll need a lot of direction from people as

to where in the US the best place for us to land next will be!

>

> Jenn-

> I wanted to add WELCOME to the group-- I hope you post more

often. I'm

> sure that there are many challenges that you face being in Germany

and in the

> military, and those challenges would maybe help many others dealing

with

> similar situations. I'm sure you have a lot to offer the group!

>

> Becky

>

>

>

> **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video

on AOL

> Home.

>

(http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030\

000000001)

>

>

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Jenn -Tricia Morin who I co founded Speechville with was a moderator

here and is also a military family with an apraxic son. She has put

together a wealth of support information!

She's moved probably 3 or 4 times since starting with our group! Here's just

one archive from Tricia

/message/33958

Let me know if you have any specific questions!

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