Re: Octuplets mom has son with autism

February 9, 2009

Well-- here's where I disagree slightly. I don't think she's an unfit

mother at all. Stupid and selfish? Absolutely yes-- but if those disqualified

a

person for being a good mother, we'd ALL Be unfit, huh?

I think she's most likely an excellent mother in the respect that she loves

and cares for those children.

But I do think she's stupid-- but that's no reason to declare her unfit

Becky

In a message dated 2/8/2009 12:38:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

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I

know this is a horrible thing to say -but I wish she was deemed to be

an unfit mother and those poor children (at least the 8 preemies)

could go to loving parents who aren't mentally unstable.

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February 9, 2009

she does NOT have sextuplets! She has 6 other children all under the age of

7, I believe, but they are NOT Sextuplets.

They are twins and singletons in the mix.

Becky

In a message dated 2/8/2009 7:56:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

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I believe she has caused quite a controversy since she had sextuplets (one

of them ASD) and now opted to have 8 more and being a single mom ( The father

wants nothing to do with it)...

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February 9, 2009

I heard the same thing and the same doctor did all the procedures and used 6

embros atleast one other time to. She is working on her masters also. Ialso

heard she was working somewhere and had hurt her back I think she worked at

a prison and there was a riot.

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February 9, 2009

she used the same donor for all 14. No... we should not call her an unfit

motheer. Look at the Duggans. They have 14 kids. They are a couple and they are

not all the same age. I heard her other kids are all older. Some of them are

around 7. The 2 eggs that split would produce identical twins. She will get

free diapers a free stroller free baby food and formula. I doubt if a book

will be in the works. There probably will not be a book because that has been

done so many times before. If you google ivf success rates I THINK YOU CAN FIND

SORTO and I think that is the place you can find the usual transfer and

success rates. It is confidential. We registered there.

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February 9, 2009

Do you perhaps mean the DUGGARS?

I'm not sure how a person can POSSIBLY compare this young, SINGLE mother who

is being impregnated by a friend's sperm, to the family unit of a married

couple together for 25 yrs who choose to have 18 kids.

The Duggars have always been employed--- they have always taken care of

their own children and have never asked for help or assistance.

This single mother can never say the same.

These two situations cannot be compared-- not even close

Becky

In a message dated 2/9/2009 4:00:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

stehn4@... writes:

she used the same donor for all 14. No... we should not call her an unfit

motheer. Look at the Duggans.

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February 9, 2009

Unfortunately, I can believe ANYthing that crazy people say or do. But I

think that's ridiculous!

How can anyone send a death threat to a person is beyond me--

Becky

In a message dated 2/9/2009 4:00:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

gabrieladevelbiss@... writes:

she is receiving DEATH THREATS!!! Can you believe that?!!! That is uncalled

for... I DO NOT APPROVE OF THAT!!! This people have gone far enough!!!

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February 9, 2009

Whoooa you are so off base it's not funny!

I have very dear friends who know them personally, and they truly are how

they appear to be on tv.

There are no pretenses with them and they are great people. Their children

all feel loved and adored by both their parents and always have. Not to

mention that most of them (the older ones obviously since the younger ones don't

think about this sort of stuff yet) But they all have been publicly heard to

tell people that THEY THEMSELVES want a large family.

so obviously it works for some people.

Now I suggest-- before you get TOO much more nasty on this subject, I'd like

you to realize that I have 8 children myself. I should hope that before you

say there's not enough love to go around, that maybe you should step outside

of your own family's experience and realize that there are millions of

people out there who are able to have large families successfully.

There is *ALWAYS* enough love for a child when you're in a good and healthy

family. Even with this Octuplets mother, you could CLEARLY see the love she

had for all of her children, so no one can deny that she adores her children.

Even her " nay sayers " have agreed that she loves them tremendously.

But back to the comment about not having enough Love-- which I can't even

imagine NOT having enough of when it comes to a person's own child. But let's

talk about the time. I am a home schooling mother who has access to my

children 24hrs a day and 7 days a week. Did your parents have that with you? Did

you get ANY time with them, or could it just be that they didn't know how to

properly manage their own time , or the family time??

I spend more time with each of my EIGHT children individually, than most

people spend with TWO of their children. If you don't believe that-- come live

in my life for a day and see how we live, because it's possible, but it's

DO-ABLE as well. Do I work extra hard to get it all done??? Absolutely-- but

EVERY SINGLE CHILD of mine is worth that work and effort.

For what it's worth, we have plenty of money to go around, we live in a

house that totals approx 6,000 sq ft of living space, we buy clothes (NEW even)

for the kids, and omigosh-- they actually CAN share them every now and then or

-- horrors of horrors, we can pass them down to the NEXT child. As far as

food-- I could go into that, but do you need me to? LOL I spend less on my

grocery bill than most people do on their take-out bill!

And for what it's worth, we even GO OUT to dinner with them, and wow-- we

even do other things in life as well! LOL

It really *IS* possible to have enough time, love, food, money, space,

clothing,e tc.

I'm sorry YOUR parents didn't do it well enough to make YOU feel special and

loved enough, but that's not the case with other large families.

Becky

In a message dated 2/9/2009 5:43:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

lisamlivingston@... writes:

Call me whatever you WANT but I thionk it totally unfair to ANY kid to have

to grow up as a number. Do not even begin to state that there is love to go

round. There is not time, money, attention, love, space, clothes, food, etc. I

grew as up one of 5 kids. It is telling that of the five kids, we

produced only 4 grandchildren. 2 are mine, 2 a brothers. Ther other 3 do not

want to

repeat the crazy circus that was our lives. The Duggans are archaic rellics

and bastions of mysogony of a bygone era.

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February 9, 2009

And for what it's worth-- if you're going to be so ignorant as to slam a

person's lifestyle and their lives in general, could you PLEASE at least give

them the courtesy of using their REAL NAME?

They are The DUGGARS. Jim-Bob and Duggar.

This sentence alone reaks of such hatred and anger, it's strikes me as odd.

Wasn't someone here just posting earlier about those people sending death

threats to the Octuplet's mom? And I wondered in my mind just where do people

get such hatred to do such a thing-- and I almost wonder what we're witnessing

below with your statement.

Becky

February 9, 2009

Well Tuesday night @ 10:00pm PT she will have a chance to explain and defend her

self!!! on DATELINE!!! Let us give her a chance to do so... And we will meet all

of her children... this should be interesting!!!

One of the things that concerns me is that besides the point about her being

responsible or not... she is receiving DEATH THREATS!!! Can you believe

that?!!! That is uncalled for... I DO NOT APPROVE OF THAT!!! This people have

gone far enough!!!

Love, Gabby. :0)

http://stemcellforautism.blogspot.com/

" I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely neurotypical. Even God had

some Autistic moments, which is why the planets all spin. " ~ Jerry Newport

February 9, 2009

Call me whatever you WANT but I thionk it totally unfair to ANY kid to have to

grow up as a number. Do not even begin to state that there is love to go round.

There is not time, money, attention, love, space, clothes, food, etc. I grew as

up one of 5 kids. It is telling that of the five kids, we produced only 4

grandchildren. 2 are mine, 2 a brothers. Ther other 3 do not want to repeat the

crazy circus that was our lives. The Duggans are archaic rellics and bastions of

mysogony of a bygone era.

From: stehn4@... <stehn4@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Octuplets mom has son with autism

Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 2:51 PM