Re: Octuplets mom has son with autism

[Guest guest]

Call me a hypocrite, because I have no problem passing on used shoes,

but I don't usually accept them. (The only exception is holiday shoes

or snow boots that will only be worn a few times). My daughter is

finally growing out of her clumsiness - she has mild hypotonia, some

motor planning issues, and would walk in-toed and trip frequently

(she also has a speech delay, and a few other issues, and we're in

the process of testing her for visual processing disorder, but that's

off topic). Anyway, I felt that in new shoes, only her feet " shaped "

them, and maybe it was less damaging than what others wore. Since my

son was a bit behind in walking as well, I felt comfortable knowing

that they both got quality shoes.

>

> It is good to be green but wearing used shoes can hurt your feet

and you

> could get athletes foot. I had to wear corrective shoes when I was

little so I

> buy the kids new shoes. It is important to buy good shoes. We buy a

lot of

> shoes at Wal Mart because buying used shoes can affect the way you

walk. If you

> look at the soles of your shoes you can tell if the weight is

being dispersed

> properly. I love Earth shoes. I was on my feet 8 hours a day on

cement floors

> so I always bought good shoes. Sometimes my feet would even bleed.

Socks are

> also important. Many nurses wear Nike but if you stand on your

feet a lot

> and want some shoes that will last get SAS. They are pricey at

about 150 a pair

> but they are the only shoes I have ever bought that I can wear

everyday for

> 2 years without wearing them out. They do not make kids shoes

though. They

> have a large toe box. I have seen so many elderly people with foot

problems and

> I always recommend these shoes. Poor fitting shoes can damage your

feet and

> can cause you to fall. It is also important to wear socks. When I

hike I wear

> Vasque hiking boots with gortex so I stay dry. Six years ago I

fell in a

> pair of sandals and had what is known as a fib tib fracture. One

of the bones in

> my left leg fracture vertically and the fracture was 7 inches long

so I have

> a 7 inch rod in that leg and the other bone was broken

horizontally. I have

> 9 screws in my leg. was only a few months old and he

refused to take a

> bottle. He did not eat for 3 days. It was horrible. I was on

morphine so I

> could not nurse him. I have given myself hundreds of shots in my

right hip so

> I cannot get shots there anymore because I develop nodules (there

is so much

> scar tissue) that the muscle will not absorb the medication so the

morphine

> was all given through the iv port.

> Dr Breedlove did it. He was a champion bicycle rider and traveled

all over

> the world. He died at an event a couple years ago.

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[Guest guest]

My husband and I would love to have another child but are experiencing

'secondary infertility' and because of the cost of our ONE specail needs son ,

we can't afford fertility treatments!! Then again we are not on food stamps &

disability & medicaid to cover all of our costs!!

[Guest guest]

Can I just say " me too " ? I don't know why we all grabbed on

to this story. We clearly are all are passionate about the children

-have mixed emotions about the mother -but I'd say most of us think

she's mentally unstable.

6 children - 3 special needs children. One with autism. One with

ADHD. One with a speech delay. To me as I've learned more about this

story- I've latched on to the child with the speech delay -the one I

read about in that one complaint -the only place I read about that

child since nobody else mentions it. The one that isn't a preemie.

Not autistic. Not ADHD -will someone be there to advocate for that

child? To find out why he or she isn't talking?

Is it possible that the one with the " speech delay " is apraxic? I

think so -but who knows?

When the 8 preemies come home they'll all be special needs to some

extent and I'm sure will get the treatments they need -the world will

make sure of it as they'll grow up in the limelight if the mother gets

her way. The child with autism I'm sure is getting some type of

appropriate therapies...but will anyone be there for the child who

only has the " speech delay? " ?

I pray the " speech delay " child with all this media attention will get

the help he or she needs -but probably as always the " speech delay "

child will continue not to be the focus ...as all the media has talked

about is the child with autism and the preemies. They all deserve a

voice -including 'all' those that don't have the ability to speak for

themselves yet.

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[Guest guest]

Is the autistic boy getting any services or therapy? I saw them on

Dateline and they showed the autistic boy and he was walking around in

circles, but they didn't say if he's on a program or anything. He

should be. Autistic children usually have speech delays too, in

addition to many other problems. They are often diagnosed with

Apraxia. The mom just seems so irresponsible. I feel sorry for those

8 babies and hope they seriously don't let her take them home.

>

> Can I just say " me too " ? I don't know why we all grabbed on

> to this story. We clearly are all are passionate about the children

> -have mixed emotions about the mother -but I'd say most of us think

> she's mentally unstable.

>

> 6 children - 3 special needs children. One with autism. One with

> ADHD. One with a speech delay. To me as I've learned more about this

> story- I've latched on to the child with the speech delay -the one I

> read about in that one complaint -the only place I read about that

> child since nobody else mentions it. The one that isn't a preemie.

> Not autistic. Not ADHD -will someone be there to advocate for that

> child? To find out why he or she isn't talking?

>

> Is it possible that the one with the " speech delay " is apraxic? I

> think so -but who knows?

>

> When the 8 preemies come home they'll all be special needs to some

> extent and I'm sure will get the treatments they need -the world will

> make sure of it as they'll grow up in the limelight if the mother gets

> her way. The child with autism I'm sure is getting some type of

> appropriate therapies...but will anyone be there for the child who

> only has the " speech delay? " ?

>

> I pray the " speech delay " child with all this media attention will get

> the help he or she needs -but probably as always the " speech delay "

> child will continue not to be the focus ...as all the media has talked

> about is the child with autism and the preemies. They all deserve a

> voice -including 'all' those that don't have the ability to speak for

> themselves yet.

>

> =====

>

[Guest guest]

I wanted to let you know that Gloria Alred has offered the octuplets and

there siblings 24 hour round the clock nursing care and therapy through Angels

in Waiting. This is a better solution. They can stay together and will not have

to be seperated. Amen.

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[Guest guest]

But for most people who are perfectly healthy-- used shoes shouldn't be a

problem.

As far as I know, the Duggar family (which started the shoe conversation)

has no health concerns for their children. Used shoes shouldn't be a problem.

They also mentioned buying new, and passing down to younger children in

their family. I can't see this being a problem either-- unless the child has

issues.

for instance-- Arielle is my oldest and she has shoe inserts (orthotics) so

she has always had her own new. (she's the oldest anyway so that's the way it

would work. LOL)

None of her shoes have been passed down to the other girls.

The two other girls have shared and swapped shoes back and forth and neither

have ortho issues, so it's perfectly fine.

The boys-- same thing-- with the exception of ASA, who has had orthotics and

braces, and of course always needs his own. Now to add his diabetes and

foot care being essential to his health-- he will always need his own/new

shoes.

But if a person is perfectly healthy and has no problems-- things really

shouldn't be a problem. I saw that show that the other poster talked about,

and

saw the shoes that they bought " used " from a consignment store-- they looked

all but brand new to me-- and you'd be able to see if there were issues with

them

Becky

In a message dated 2/19/2009 9:38:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

jscott@... writes:

For our flat footed hypotonic kids with poor immune systems..... clean, good

shoes are a definate must!

I couldn`t imagine putting either my foot or my kids feet into used shoes. I

have caught atheletes foot on more then one occasion growing up just using

swimming pools. Very gross!

While I try to be green, I wouldn`t consider used shoes in my household

unless I knew the previous owner personally..Whi

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[Guest guest]

Well-- I pray for the best for your family.

I'm not sure that my story will encourage you or not-- but having 8 kids,

people always assume that I take fertility for granted. It couldn't be

further from the truth-- as I feel every baby is a miracle in itself-- but when

you

add other issues on top of a typical woman's fertility, it's just a miracle.

anyway-- I won't go into great detail now, but if you want more-- I can

always share more thoughts.

I was 18 (almost 19) when I got pregnant with my first child. I was unwed

and it was definitely what is called a crisis pregnancy. Very unexpected and not

planned by me. (however, of course planned by God-- without a doubt!)

Before I got married to my husband, I had consulted a specialist for things that

I was having troubles with (girl-wise and hormonally etc). And I was outright

told that I would *NEVER* be able to conceive a child naturally on my own.

Medically speaking-- this information was correct, and they were right,

medically speaking, I would be " barren " unless I sought medical intervention,

and

even then, it wasn't guaranteed.

I always felt that I was " meant to have kids " -- so I just trusted that the

" big guy " upstairs knew what he was doing.

years later-- I become pregnant with my 2nd child (my dh's and my 1st

together). It was a true miracle and we have no idea how it happened. Then I

become almost instantly pregnant , and I lost the baby in the 2nd trimester.

Turns out now medically speaking, I guess I could get pregnant easily enough,

but now I just couldn't STAY pregnant. Then I got pregnant with my #3 who

wouldn't have been here if I didn't lose the previous baby. Again-- a total

miracle that I got pregnant at that time, because again, medically speaking, it

was an impossibility. But it happened.

Then we had our #4 (a son)

so then we tried for several years-- without success. Here I was, a mom to 4

kids with secondary infertility-- without explanation. The Dr offered to

intervene with hormones-- and we declined, just again, trusting that God knew

what was going on. Sure enough-- we have then had 4 more sons.

All I can say is that it's all God at this point. Every pregnancy a

blessing-- every child a bigger blessing.

I went from a crisis pregnancy as an unwed mom, to medically infertile, to

fertile but not able to hold onto a pregnancy without medical intervention, to

secondary infertility, to fertile again and still unable to hold a pregnancy

without intervention-- etc.

So take heart--- it's very possible that you'll have another baby-- stranger

things have happened!

Good luck!

Becky

In a message dated 2/19/2009 11:59:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

thebouldermarket@... writes:

My husband and I would love to have another child but are experiencing

'secondary infertility' and because of the cost of our ONE specail needs son ,

we

can't afford fertility treatments!! Then again we are not on food stamps &

disability & medicaid to cover all of our costs!!

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[Guest guest]

I think that this is an amazing offer-- and I think that the mother is

blessed to have this available

Becky

In a message dated 2/20/2009 9:22:53 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

stehn4@... writes:

I wanted to let you know that Gloria Alred has offered the octuplets and

there siblings 24 hour round the clock nursing care and therapy through

Angels

in Waiting. This is a better solution. They can stay together and will not

have

to be seperated

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[Guest guest]

Actually, the Angels in Waiting can provide the care which consist of

12 people around the clock 7 days a week, but only if enough donations

come in. It would cost the agency 135,000 to do this, not free.

>

> I think that this is an amazing offer-- and I think that the mother is

> blessed to have this available

>

> Becky

>

>

> In a message dated 2/20/2009 9:22:53 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> stehn4@... writes:

>

> I wanted to let you know that Gloria Alred has offered the

octuplets and

> there siblings 24 hour round the clock nursing care and therapy

through

> Angels

> in Waiting. This is a better solution. They can stay together and

will not

> have

> to be seperated

>

> **************Need a job? Find an employment agency near you.

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>

>

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