Re: Anyone else have trouble with potty-training?

December 24, 2008

I think we've all had problems with potty training. My son didn't train

until he was 4.3yrs old...and it wasn't anything I did. At school they did

have the kids on a timer...every 20 mins. the timer would go off and they

would have to try and go to the bathroom. Perhaps that helped and perhaps

not. I find that my son decides when he wants to learn things and when he

does he never goes back.....

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Hi,

Our son has apraxia so we put off potty-training until he was a bit

more verbal. But from the moment we started, he was EXTREMELY

unwilling. He will cry all day if we have him in underwear. After

months he got to the point where he's not deathly afraid of the potty,

but he has yet to poop there. He always asks for a diaper to poop.

He also won't go out in public without his diaper. Our older son was

also challenging to train, but not this difficult. I wonder if this

is common with apraxic kids or if it has nothing to do with apraxia.

Maybe we just need to put up with the screaming until he gets it.

Thoughts?

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December 26, 2008

Hello ,

I may be in the minority here but my 2 1/2 year old son who has verbal

apraxia was not too difficult to train. he is pretty much fully

trained on both right now. he can now say pee and poop in a way that

we can understand. When he wasnt able to communicate in this way we

started him off with little rewards. some people i know dont believe

in doing it this way but it worked great for us. I went to the dollar

store and bought a bunch of little toys that i put in a basket for him

to choose from. he was so excited when he saw all the toys in the

basket and i told him everytime he went potty he could pick one out.

He caught onto this pretty quickly. my husband was concerned that he'd

always expect something after he went but he gradually didnt even

think to ask after he went. we did the same for poop which was a bit

more challenging with him but still effective. we just made the

rewards a little bigger for the poop. he had some problems when we

started him on the fish oils with loose stools and was going in his

pants for a while again but that quickly resolved once he got used to

it. He still has accidents once in a great while but overall he is

pretty much trained. I think it helps now that he can say pee and

poop. he also has an abnormally strong bladder. he can go many hours

without having to pee and he holds it all night most of the time

too.(but we still put pull-ups on at night). is your son afraid of

the potty? does he not like his underwear that he screams when its

put on him? i know we also tried the letting your kid run around the

house without underwear method too which i didnt find particularily

effective for my son. he had a lot of accidents in the beggining when

we first put underwear on him and i thoiught he'd never get trained

but it does get better. every child is different and does things in

their own time. thats pry not much help but just wanted to share my

story. good luck and keep us posted.

Jenn

>

> Hi,

>

> Our son has apraxia so we put off potty-training until he was a bit

> more verbal. But from the moment we started, he was EXTREMELY

> unwilling. He will cry all day if we have him in underwear. After

> months he got to the point where he's not deathly afraid of the potty,

> but he has yet to poop there. He always asks for a diaper to poop.

> He also won't go out in public without his diaper. Our older son was

> also challenging to train, but not this difficult. I wonder if this

> is common with apraxic kids or if it has nothing to do with apraxia.

> Maybe we just need to put up with the screaming until he gets it.

> Thoughts?

>

> ~

>

December 27, 2008

:

My son who is now six was not potty trained until just before he turned 5! We

had tried on

and off for 2 years and he was not ready I suppose. He got to the point where

he would

cry too if we took him to the bathroom or put on underwear. So, I backed off

but not

completely. I would still keep a sort of routine and ask - not force him to go.

Then one

morning I heard my husband screaming for joy and I ran to see what was up and

there

Ethan was going pee on the toilet! He just did it all on his own and we did not

have a

problem from that day forward. He just needed to do it on his own terms I

suppose. We

watched potty training videos - ones that were fun and read " Everybody poops "

Guess they just have to do it when they are ready. Keep trying - it will come!

~

Ethan's Mom

>

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > Our son has apraxia so we put off potty-training until he was a bit

> > more verbal. But from the moment we started, he was EXTREMELY

> > unwilling. He will cry all day if we have him in underwear. After

> > months he got to the point where he's not deathly afraid of the potty,

> > but he has yet to poop there. He always asks for a diaper to poop.

> > He also won't go out in public without his diaper. Our older son was

> > also challenging to train, but not this difficult. I wonder if this

> > is common with apraxic kids or if it has nothing to do with apraxia.

> > Maybe we just need to put up with the screaming until he gets it.

> > Thoughts?

> >

> > ~

> >

>

December 27, 2008

We finally got our son to pee in the potty, now how do you teach pooping?

That is much harder? Jen

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December 28, 2008

Potty training has been/is a very long road in my house. My son is 5 1/2

and we are still working on the pooping in the potty thing. We are at about

1 1/2 yrs of potty training.

I went to a workshop about potty training for kids with disabilities. The

woman who ran the workshop said 2 things: 1st start with data. Take data

for about 2 weeks. Check them every 1/2 hour, note if they are

dry/wet/soiled. Record the data. You may start to find a pattern which

will make it easier to know when they need to go. The 2nd thing she said is

it is all about the rewards. You have to find what reward your child wants

and then keep that ONLY for potty training. It can't be what you want, it

has to be what they most want. This may be a bit of trial and error. For

my son it was anything with wheels. After his 4th b-day I removed all toys

with wheels from his playroom. (She said you may have to create a bit of a

" deprivation state " for the most highly desired item.) Then I put a see

thru rubbermaid tote on the back of the toilet with his matchbox cars. (She

suggested leaving the desired item where they could see it but not acquire

it themselves.) He could see the cars but couldn't open the container

without my help.

I had to start at the very beginning (you may be at this point too). I had

to reward him for going into the bathroom and standing there for a period of

time (first through the singing of the ABC's, then longer) calmly. He would

scream otherwise. You may have to reward this way at the beginning. Then

he would get 2 rewards if he would go in calmly and happened to do anything

in the potty. Then I slowly phased out rewards for going in calmly, so he

was just being rewarded for going in the potty. Then I had to do a reward

for staying DRY because he would pee at anytime and wouldn't hold it. If he

ever happened to poop in the potty there were bigger rewards for that.

(Those were bigger trucks in the dining room in a larger rubbermaid see

through container.)

I had to start to reward him for telling me he needed to go. (So sometimes

he was getting 3 rewards or even 4 on one trip...one for being dry, one for

going pee, one for telling me, one for pooping.) The other part of the

trick is to clear the rewards from the previous day. I would have to go

through my house every night and pick up all the cars and trucks and return

them to their containers.

Some people do the timer method. You set a timer for a time interval and

take the child to the bathroom every time the timer goes off. This never

worked for me (he could pee every 15 min!!!!!), this created more of a

battle. I had to drink lots and take him every time I needed to go. This

is what worked for me.

I have done LOTS of laundry!!! I would carry around a backpack full of

clothes, underpants and plastic pants and a 2.5 plastic gallon ziplocbag! I

think plastic pants are KEY (found at target or babies r us/toys r us and

wal-mart). I have even had my son wear underpants UNDER a pull up or

diaper. He needs to feel wet to learn. I think this is everything. I

don't know if this what you were looking for. Feel free to email me to

comiserate. Be patient...it may take a while but it can be done!!

Noelle

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