Re: I have to vent - family guilt on christmas

[Guest guest]

He should be happy for you and you should be relieved. Does he think his

reaction will make you want to spend more time with him? You only live once.

Last year we did the same thing. There are a lot of other ways we could have

spent our money but my daughter would not have been able to share the adventure

at show and tell with the rest of the class. I did it for the son I could not

take to WDW. I did it for the trip I always wanted my parents to take me on.

I did it because we do not live forever. You go and have a good time. Your

dad is older than you are and he can take care of himself. Someday he will

regret what he said. You are taking your kids on a trip so that they can

experience the joy you were not able to experience win you were a child. Dad

can get

a postcard this year which is more than he probably deserves.w

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[Guest guest]

Wow... I am so sorry to hear that your family is being like this.

Hope your children experience all the love and happiness in the world

spending such a special day on such a special vacation. Better off to

be in the presence of love and fun than in the company of those who

would say such horrid things.

>

> I have written before about heteful things my parents have said.

> I am now done with them.

>

> A year ago we planned the vacay of a lifetime for our 2 kids aged 4

> and 8 - Magic Kingdon on xmas. Great, eh? We scrimped, we saved, we

> cashed in flier miles. We are good to go. The kids are extatic.

>

> I even ASKED my parents if this would be ok. They said " Your kids

> will be too old in a few years - go enjoy the Disney thing witjh

them

> while you can " . This after years of disfunctional christmasses at

> their place....

>

> Today my 79 year old father called to tell that he " Hoped I had a

F-

> ing & ^* & & ^%^%$ shi.....y rotten time there,. and thanks for the

kick

> in the teeth and butt. " Then he hung up.

>

> So he is older. So he is possibly dememted.

>

> I cannot imagine why ANYONE would ever say that to anyone, let

alone

> their daughter and granddaughter. " I hope you have a horrible

time? "

> What the hell is that all about? I am so totally

disgusted...........

>

> This on the heels of all their other blunders. I am so totally

> disgusted and done with both my parents.

>

> Thanks for listening. Go love your kids and NEVER NEVER TREAT THEM

> LIKE THIS.

>

[Guest guest]

I am so sorry to hear that your father was so mean and abusive to you. How dare

he say things like that after they told you to go. You did at least ask their

opinion if it was alright with them. you did not have to do that after all your

more than entitled to spend the holidays with your family doing whatever you and

your family wish to do.

 

i do really hope you and your family have a great time at disney. What a

wonderful way to spend your holidays. I bet you will have a great time. I have

never been there though. But would think  they put on a great  christmas show.

it must be pretty if they decorate it for the holidays at night. Enjoy your

vacation. Plus I hope you enjoy your nice weather while your there. I hope you

have nice weather. Where i live you would not want to go outside and spend much

time. We have about 2 and half feet of snow and more on the way on christmas eve

tommorrow sometime. We are experiencing temps below zero most night and today it

was in the low teens.

 

Merry Christmas And Happy New Year

 

Jeanne

NH

From: lisamlivingston <lisamlivingston@...>

Subject: [ ] I have to vent - family guilt on christmas

Date: Tuesday, December 23, 2008, 3:55 PM

I have written before about heteful things my parents have said.

I am now done with them.

A year ago we planned the vacay of a lifetime for our 2 kids aged 4

and 8 - Magic Kingdon on xmas. Great, eh? We scrimped, we saved, we

cashed in flier miles. We are good to go. The kids are extatic.

I even ASKED my parents if this would be ok. They said " Your kids

will be too old in a few years - go enjoy the Disney thing witjh them

while you can " . This after years of disfunctional christmasses at

their place....

Today my 79 year old father called to tell that he " Hoped I had a F-

ing & ^* & & ^%^%$ shi.....y rotten time there,. and thanks for the kick

in the teeth and butt. " Then he hung up.

So he is older. So he is possibly dememted.

I cannot imagine why ANYONE would ever say that to anyone, let alone

their daughter and granddaughter. " I hope you have a horrible time? "

What the hell is that all about? I am so totally disgusted... ........

This on the heels of all their other blunders. I am so totally

disgusted and done with both my parents.

Thanks for listening. Go love your kids and NEVER NEVER TREAT THEM

LIKE THIS.

[Guest guest]

words can't express how sad I am to hear you have to go through

this. I can't imagine a father being this way to his own children

but I know it happens. Was he always like this or is this type of

behavior new? Is it possible he is sick/had a head injury? What

does your mother have to say about this? Does he drink? If you need

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On a much much much brighter note you are going to LOVE Christmas at

Disney!! OMG it's like every magical Christmas image you can think

of rolled up into 4 wonderful parks. Yes my family is going to be up

there too as we are meeting up with some friends. Here's my favorite

things to do for Christmas up in Orlando

Epcot center- walk around the World showcase to see the customs and

costumes of Santa in each Country - " Global Santa " Some tell stories -

it's just so incredible. Of course while there you have to see the

amazing human/singing Christmas tree otherwise known as the

Candlelight Procession. They call it a human Christmas tree because

all the people carry candles and they form what looks like a..well

you get it.

" Celebrity narrators of the 2008 Candlelight Procession at Epcot

share their favorite holiday memories. The Candlelight Processional

at Epcot is a Walt Disney World Resort holiday tradition; a telling

of the Christmas story featuring celebrity narrators, a mass choir

and a 50-piece orchestra. Hear memories from Virginia Madsen, Neil

, Stokes , Marlee Matlin, Chita ,

and O'Hurley. "

Hollywood Studios- Osborne Spectacle of Dancing Lights -need I say

more?! To me the highlight as I feel like I'm in NYC while I'm in

Florida...well if NYC was magical! For sure make sure you find the

booth selling the hot chocolate made with real milk (ask -they'll

tell you) and buy one of those light up glow mugs for each kid and

stand under the (looks like real) snow -watch the lights dancing to

the music and just say " oooooh " . I feel like I'm around 2 when I'm

there but without the tantrum. Also as a passholder I was supposed

to go up earlier this month to pick up the 3D glasses as the

spectacle of lights show is actually also in 3D so you see angels and

other special things hidden in the lights. Ask at guest services in

Hollywood studios if they have any 3D glasses left as most won't even

know to ask. My friend was supposed to get mine and they only

had them at Hollywood Studios. Pictures don't do it justice -it's

just amazing to be there -like you!

PS if you want to really get in the spirit -wear a long red and white

striped Christmas scarf and you'll look like you work for Disney!

Magic Kingdom...well everyone goes to the Magic Kingdom you know

which is why it's the most crowded. They have the Very Merry

Christmas Party which if it isn't sold out I heard it lots of fun.

I've never been to that which is kind of shocking if you think about

it as I go there so often -but we did the Not So Scary Halloween

Party a few times and it's super fun. Parades and music and

decorations and Christmas trees- it's all there at the Magic Kingdom.

Animal Kingdom has a Christmas parade and decorations too -but it's

got it's own unique jungle organic style. Very cool park -fun too!

And...in case it's not outside your plans...I HIGHLY recommend you

take a day trip just 10 minutes down the road if you have the time to

Gaylord Palms to see ICE! Make sure you dress warm -no matter what

size coat they give you say it's too small and get the next size up

because you want your hands to be covered and the coat to cover up as

much as possible as it's only NINE degrees inside. Bring your

mittens- a hat too if you have it. Wear warm shoes too!! It is such

incredible (you won't believe it) eye candy inside that you'll cry

and your tears will freeze on your face! (So bring tissues) You'll

want to stay in longer but you can't stay in too long -not that they

kick you out -it's just WAY too cold! (my camera froze and didn't

work twice -Glenn had to stick it in his coat!!) You'll be

thinking " I can't believe I'm in Florida! " Once you come out they

have really cute Christmas shows and they serve hot chocolate- and

it's just such a gorgeous hotel you feel like you are outside even

though you are inside as it's themed to be all of Florida. Also IMO

the restaurants and entertainment in Gaylord are all very worth

checking out -I choose to eat here over Disney sometimes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNTPStV9QEg & feature=related

A mother on the baby slide (they have a much bigger one for big 'kids')

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5IG4v2r3vo & feature=related

This is inside the hotel to give you an idea

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH3_UDN1YzU & feature=related

Call me if you want and maybe we can meet up? 772 335 5135. You'll

have the most incredible time ever. Take lots of photos -but as I

said -you can't capture a Disney Christmas in a photo or a video -you

just have to be there at least once. And again -you will be! )

PS -do you know about the " fast passes " you can get for your child

from guest relations? If not let me know and I'll repost that for

you. Just in case here's the link

/message/86791

=====

[Guest guest]

I too am sad that your father has behaved in this manner. You know, sometimes

as people age, they do tend to have problems with depression. If this type of

behavior is unusual for him, perhaps this is what could be happening to him at

this time? Perhaps he is feeling the loss of his family, lonliness at Christmas

time and is trying to make you feel guilty for his own personal upset. I am

sure that he will feel a lot of regret for his words for all he has done has

been to alienate you and his grandchildren. That certainly won't bring you

back!

Please put his behavior at the back of your mind, focus on your family and

determine have a wonderful holiday. If you let him spoil it, then he wins.....

and he shouldn't for his behavior was very, very wrong.

When you get home, I do hope that fences will mend and that everything will calm

down and stablilize. Whatever does happen, I sincerely wish you the best

vacation and Christmas EVER!

Have fun and enjoy!

Janice

Mother of Mark, 13

[ ] I have to vent - family guilt on christmas

Date: Tuesday, December 23, 2008, 3:55 PM

I have written before about heteful things my parents have said.

I am now done with them.

A year ago we planned the vacay of a lifetime for our 2 kids aged 4

and 8 - Magic Kingdon on xmas. Great, eh? We scrimped, we saved, we

cashed in flier miles. We are good to go. The kids are extatic.

I even ASKED my parents if this would be ok. They said " Your kids

will be too old in a few years - go enjoy the Disney thing witjh them

while you can " . This after years of disfunctional christmasses at

their place....

Today my 79 year old father called to tell that he " Hoped I had a F-

ing & ^* & & ^%^%$ shi.....y rotten time there,. and thanks for the kick

in the teeth and butt. " Then he hung up.

So he is older. So he is possibly dememted.

I cannot imagine why ANYONE would ever say that to anyone, let alone

their daughter and granddaughter. " I hope you have a horrible time? "

What the hell is that all about? I am so totally disgusted... ........

This on the heels of all their other blunders. I am so totally

disgusted and done with both my parents.

Thanks for listening. Go love your kids and NEVER NEVER TREAT THEM

LIKE THIS.

[Guest guest]

Well, I guess this confirms you made the right decision for the

Holidays...I'm so sorry this happened.

Have a GREAT time.

>

> I have written before about heteful things my parents have said.

> I am now done with them.

>

> A year ago we planned the vacay of a lifetime for our 2 kids aged 4

> and 8 - Magic Kingdon on xmas. Great, eh? We scrimped, we saved, we

> cashed in flier miles. We are good to go. The kids are extatic.

>

> I even ASKED my parents if this would be ok. They said " Your kids

> will be too old in a few years - go enjoy the Disney thing witjh

them

> while you can " . This after years of disfunctional christmasses at

> their place....

>

> Today my 79 year old father called to tell that he " Hoped I had a

F-

> ing & ^* & & ^%^%$ shi.....y rotten time there,. and thanks for the

kick

> in the teeth and butt. " Then he hung up.

>

> So he is older. So he is possibly dememted.

>

> I cannot imagine why ANYONE would ever say that to anyone, let

alone

> their daughter and granddaughter. " I hope you have a horrible

time? "

> What the hell is that all about? I am so totally

disgusted...........

>

> This on the heels of all their other blunders. I am so totally

> disgusted and done with both my parents.

>

> Thanks for listening. Go love your kids and NEVER NEVER TREAT THEM

> LIKE THIS.

>