Janice Potty training a non-verbal 3 year old

[Guest guest]

What are log rolls?  and Garrett hate the deep pressure.  So, I have not

been doing it.  Any advice on how to get them to cooperate for that?

Dana

and Garrett, just turned 4, SCD 2 years

Celiac, ASD, Speech and Motor Apraxia, sensory processing disorder

From: tbnieshaol (DOT) com <tbnieshaol (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: [childrensapraxiane t] Re: Potty training a non-verbal 3 year old-

TO EVE...

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Date: Thursday, August 7, 2008, 5:27 PM

ugh-- Tell me about this one! This is Asa lately. He never seemed to have

trouble blowing his nose before, and now when he's sick and we're telling him

to blow his nose-- he can't seem to do it.

He does also have trouble with smiling on command-- such a difficult task

for him

bek

In a message dated 8/7/2008 12:19:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

kiddietalk (DOT) com writes:

Here's a bit on limb apraxia which is also called global

(but global can mean so many things -even trouble blowing noses on command!)

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[Guest guest]

Janice, as usual, you are so helpful! Thank you!  I will get back with the deep

pressure and try the log rolls.  The boys really are doing so much better since

we started NACD and The Listening Program.  I appreciate you sharing about this!

Dana

and Garrett, just turned 4, SCD 2 years

Celiac, ASD, Speech and Motor Apraxia, sensory processing disorder

From: tbnieshaol (DOT) com <tbnieshaol (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: [childrensapraxiane t] Re: Potty training a non-verbal 3 year old-

TO EVE...

@groups. com

Date: Thursday, August 7, 2008, 5:27 PM

ugh-- Tell me about this one! This is Asa lately. He never seemed to have

trouble blowing his nose before, and now when he's sick and we're telling him

to blow his nose-- he can't seem to do it.

He does also have trouble with smiling on command-- such a difficult task

for him

bek

In a message dated 8/7/2008 12:19:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

kiddietalk (DOT) com writes:

Here's a bit on limb apraxia which is also called global

(but global can mean so many things -even trouble blowing noses on command!)

[Guest guest]

Log rolls are as they state. Lay down on the grass and roll..... Lots more fun

if there is a hill! Eyes open, eyes closed.... both types work different

aspects of the vestibular. It also works the spinal gallant reflex which is the

pee pee reflex!

Deep Pressure.... Hmmmm...... tough to explain to a 3 year old that this is

really good for him!

But.... I would start off by trying to do it when the child is absorbed in

something visual such as a favorite TV show. I know they hate it.... Mark still

hates it but it has really done great things for his tactility. Note that at

11, Mark had the tactility of a baby. It was 'that' bad and it just didn't get

better without this work. After 2 years, we still do it with his hands before

he writes. Start off slow and really try to get some cooperation.

I used to do Mark's deep pressure first thing in the morning. I would pop on

those earphones and have him listen to his Listening Program (TLP) and do deep

pressure at the same time. Mark sleeps like the dead (literally) and it's a

whole lot easier to attack those arms, legs, hands and feet when he's out of it

and slowly coming to!

Remember when you are doing deep pressure the point is to stimulate the pain

threshold; we don't want to hurt the child but it must be uncomfortable enough

for them to be pulling away. We are working that sense of pain and stimulating

the nerve endings in the skin. So.... not surprising that your little tykes

don't like it! Don't blame them one bit!

Mark likes to do deep pressure on me now.... and it does hurt! When I first

started with him, it was like I was squeezing so hard that my hand hurt. I just

couldn't find his pain threshold; his fingers and toes were almost numb. I

almost resorted to using the monkey wrench.... (just joking) But really, I

couldn't believe how he had gotten through all of those years without me even

noticing. No wonder he couldn't write.... the kid could barely feel the pencil!

Janice

Re: [childrensapraxiane t] Re: Potty training a non-verbal 3 year

old- TO EVE...

@groups. com

Date: Thursday, August 7, 2008, 5:27 PM

ugh-- Tell me about this one! This is Asa lately. He never seemed to have

trouble blowing his nose before, and now when he's sick and we're telling him

to blow his nose-- he can't seem to do it.

He does also have trouble with smiling on command-- such a difficult task

for him

bek

In a message dated 8/7/2008 12:19:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

kiddietalk (DOT) com writes:

Here's a bit on limb apraxia which is also called global

(but global can mean so many things -even trouble blowing noses on command!)