Sensory Issues/Eye Contact

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I want to thank you for this discussion group. I have learned much from all of

you these past few weeks!

Our 2 1/2 year old son with moderate-severe apraxia. His SP says in general,

kids with apraxia have poor eye contact. She feels our son's eye contact is far

worse than most of the kids she has seen. So she is submitting paperwork for a

possible OT evaluation for sensory issues.

He has made great progress in his therapy. He will follow through with the task

the SP asks him, but it's because he " heard " what she said...not necessarily

because he was looking directly at her. He will look at her at times, but not

for each drill. Part of me is thinking, he's only a 2-year-old boy. I have

read from some past posts of some apraxia children with sensory issues as well.

Just wondering for those that have had apraxia/sensory-related issues, has the

eye contact and attention improved once their vocabulary expanded, or is this an

ongoing struggle?

I just picked up " The Late Talker " book and am anxious to start reading that

too.

Thanks so much!

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My son is 10, with apraxia (used to be severe, now moderate), and had eye

contact for some time. Come to find out, it's a vision issue for him. He has

perceptual difficulties, including poor depth perception, figure/ground

discrimination, and has trouble with convergence. He basically has

ocular-motor

dyspraxia. That literally made it painful for him to look someone in the eye

at most close distances. Since going to vision therapy for the past 3 years,

many of these difficulties have improved or resolved, and he no longer has

poor eye contact. We would have never thought he had a vision problem, as he

tests 20/20, but perceptual are not tested in that way. Just something to

think about.

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> I want to thank you for this discussion group. I have learned much from all

of you these past few weeks!

>

> Our 2 1/2 year old son with moderate-severe apraxia. His SP says in general,

kids with apraxia have poor eye contact. She feels our son's eye contact is far

worse than most of the kids she has seen. So she is submitting paperwork for a

possible OT evaluation for sensory issues.

>

> He has made great progress in his therapy. He will follow through with the

task the SP asks him, but it's because he " heard " what she said...not

necessarily because he was looking directly at her. He will look at her at

times, but not for each drill. Part of me is thinking, he's only a 2-year-old

boy. I have read from some past posts of some apraxia children with sensory

issues as well. Just wondering for those that have had apraxia/sensory-related

issues, has the eye contact and attention improved once their vocabulary

expanded, or is this an ongoing struggle?

>

> I just picked up " The Late Talker " book and am anxious to start reading that

too.

>

> Thanks so much!

>

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Hi ,

Which doctor diagnoses these kind of issues like ocular-motor

dyspraxia, I am trying to find one for my son, his pediatrician told me to take

him to a regular eye doctor

thanks,

roopa

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Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2009 4:20:26 PM

Subject: [ ] Re:Sensory Issues/Eye Contact

My son is 10, with apraxia (used to be severe, now moderate), and had eye

contact for some time. Come to find out, it's a vision issue for him. He has

perceptual difficulties, including poor depth perception, figure/ground

discrimination, and has trouble with convergence. He basically has ocular-motor

dyspraxia. That literally made it painful for him to look someone in the eye

at most close distances. Since going to vision therapy for the past 3 years,

many of these difficulties have improved or resolved, and he no longer has

poor eye contact. We would have never thought he had a vision problem, as he

tests 20/20, but perceptual are not tested in that way. Just something to

think about.

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Roopa,

We see a developmental optometrist. A regular optometrist probably won't

have the expertise, and opthomologists don't believe in vision therapy, in

general. Here is a link with a directory of developmental optometrists. This

is

the association that our dr. is in.

_Public: Find an Eye Doctor, Pediatric Optometrists, O.D., free referrals,

directory listings, directories_

(http://www.optometrists.org/eye_doctors.html)

Hope that helps!

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Roopa,

My son Charlie sees a Developmental Optomitrist. I googled her and she is a

memeber of NORA, Neuro Optimetric Rehibiliatation Association. Perhaps a

good place to start. We are in Atlanta, GA.

She has brought us much success with diagnosing and vision therapy.

Colleen

Mother of Charlie 3.5 years

[ ] Re:Sensory Issues/Eye Contact

My son is 10, with apraxia (used to be severe, now moderate), and had eye

contact for some time. Come to find out, it's a vision issue for him. He has

perceptual difficulties, including poor depth perception, figure/ground

discrimination, and has trouble with convergence. He basically has

ocular-motor

dyspraxia. That literally made it painful for him to look someone in the eye

at most close distances. Since going to vision therapy for the past 3 years,

many of these difficulties have improved or resolved, and he no longer has

poor eye contact. We would have never thought he had a vision problem, as he

tests 20/20, but perceptual are not tested in that way. Just something to

think about.

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Hi Colleen, Can I get the name of your Developmental Optomitrist ? What age sis

your son start to see her?

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My son is 10, with apraxia (used to be severe, now moderate), and had eye

contact for some time. Come to find out, it's a vision issue for him. He has

perceptual difficulties, including poor depth perception, figure/ground

discrimination, and has trouble with convergence. He basically has

ocular-motor

dyspraxia. That literally made it painful for him to look someone in the eye

at most close distances. Since going to vision therapy for the past 3 years,

many of these difficulties have improved or resolved, and he no longer has

poor eye contact. We would have never thought he had a vision problem, as he

tests 20/20, but perceptual are not tested in that way. Just something to

think about.

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Roopa,

 

We did vision therapy for a while and then the insurance, which approved it,

refused to pay the bills.   We then went to a pediatric opthalmologist, who told

us that vision therapy was basically pseudoscience.

 

I am not saying I agree with this , but we were asking for vt in school and the

couinty refused to take the opinion of the pediatric othalmolgist.  I beleive

this is the same doctor that Colleen used for her son.  Anyway, I can't give an

opinion on whether or not is would have worked as we did not do it long enough

to know.

 

However, the opthalmologist recommended surgery, which NACD was completely

against.  We were torn as we now had 3 opinions  1- do nothing 2- vision therapy

3- surgery.  We went with surgery and are so glad.

 

She now sees in 3d instead of 2d.  Her eye contact is great.   I must have asked

10 different professionals if she was autism spectrum before the surgery, all

said no, but the eye contact thing bothered me.

 

It is completely resolved now.  The only issue we are having is to break some

bad habits as she used her peripheral because her eyes were not working in

unison.  Now we will probably do vision therapy to work on convergence.

 

I will have to say that she has had a lot of surgeries -- eyes, heart, kidneys,

5 sets of tubes, hand, finger, sinus etc.   This was the most difficult as it

seemed more cosmetic and elective,but it has just made a huge difference.  Her

social skillls are improving at a rapid pace.  She is more engaged and things

are just clicking for her as far as academics.  She could not do any work on the

table, everything had to be on a slant board.  I would consider an opinion from 

a pediatric opthalmologist as well as a pediatric optomatrist.  Since the

opthalmologist does not do vt and the optomatrist does, you will get completely

different perspectives. 

 

 

Best of luck.

 

 

 

Sharon

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Subject: RE: [ ] Re:Sensory Issues/Eye Contact

Date: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 9:05 PM

Roopa,

My son Charlie sees a Developmental Optomitrist. I googled her and she is a

memeber of NORA, Neuro Optimetric Rehibiliatation Association. Perhaps a

good place to start. We are in Atlanta, GA.

She has brought us much success with diagnosing and vision therapy.

Colleen

Mother of Charlie 3.5 years

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My son is 10, with apraxia (used to be severe, now moderate), and had eye

contact for some time. Come to find out, it's a vision issue for him. He has

perceptual difficulties, including poor depth perception, figure/ground

discrimination, and has trouble with convergence. He basically has

ocular-motor

dyspraxia. That literally made it painful for him to look someone in the eye

at most close distances. Since going to vision therapy for the past 3 years,

many of these difficulties have improved or resolved, and he no longer has

poor eye contact. We would have never thought he had a vision problem, as he

tests 20/20, but perceptual are not tested in that way. Just something to

think about.

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Thanks to all .

-roopa

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Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 10:21:28 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Sensory Issues/Eye Contact

Roopa,

We see a developmental optometrist. A regular optometrist probably won't

have the expertise, and opthomologists don't believe in vision therapy, in

general. Here is a link with a directory of developmental optometrists. This is

the association that our dr. is in.

_Public: Find an Eye Doctor, Pediatric Optometrists, O.D., free referrals,

directory listings, directories_

(http://www.optometr ists.org/ eye_doctors. html)

Hope that helps!

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