Re: ABA therapy for Verbal Apraxia?

[Guest guest]

It sounds like you need a good, independent evaluation. You need to

identify your child's issues and then pursue the best course of

treatment. Was your son diagnosed by a licensed Psychologist who

specializes in ASD? Is your speech therapist familiar with ASD *and*

Apraxia and the fact the the two can frequently go together? I know it

can be expensive and time-consuming but nobody on this list can tell

you what to do and our advice can't replace a comprehensive

evaluation. What do your ABA providers think?

My son has both autism and apraxia. He receives ABA but also receives

*specialized* speech therapy three times a week for the Apraxia by a

SLP trained in PROMPT and with experience with ASD and Apraxia. Our

school district pays for the ABA and our insurance pays for the speech

therapy.

I don't understand why you'd have to choose between either the ABA or

the speech...but then I'm not familiar with the laws in your state. I

hope someone else can offer some help.

good luck,

>

> My 3 1/2 year old son was diagnosed with Autism at age 2 and is

> receiving intensive (35 hrs/week) of ABA therapy. His SLP (that we

> found on our own through the hospital) is CONVINCED that he has Verbal

> Apraxia with motor planning issues, NOT Autism. The more we learn, we

> think that she is right.

>

> Can ABA therapy help a child with Apraxia? Can it hurt?

>

> The ABA therapy is almost entirely funded by insurance and the state.

> But we can't get them to cover ANY speech therapy. We're considering

> paying our SLP out of pocket, but to do so, we have to forfeit all of

> his ABA funding.

>

> HELP! anybody with experience with ABA treatment used for Apraxia or

> strategies to get Speech Therapy covered in the state of Wisconsin -

> please reply.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi!

Just wanted to jump in on this to add that while ABA is appropriate

for those with autism -ABA is not appropriate for apraxia, and can be

detrimental. There are many archives here on this topic. If there is

a duel diagnosis then you want to make sure that the ABA is not being

used to address the motor planning impairments. I also want to add

that being there are so many children today that are misdiagnosed as

autistic -I'd also seek a second opinion on the autism diagnosis. If

a child is a late talker due to apraxia and has sensory issues for

example -that's not autism -that's apraxia with sensory issues.

In general if your child is both autistic and apraxic then you want to

seek some sort of modified ABA with a therapist that is knowledgeable

about apraxia (they'll already be knowledgeable about autism), and

speech and occupational therapy by an SLP and OT that is knowledgeable

about apraxia as well.

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[Guest guest]

What does ABA stand for? My brain must be dead today, or I missed

something somewhere.

Thanks,

>

> My 3 1/2 year old son was diagnosed with Autism at age 2 and is

> receiving intensive (35 hrs/week) of ABA therapy. His SLP (that we

> found on our own through the hospital) is CONVINCED that he has

Verbal

> Apraxia with motor planning issues, NOT Autism. The more we learn,

we

> think that she is right.

>

> Can ABA therapy help a child with Apraxia? Can it hurt?

>

> The ABA therapy is almost entirely funded by insurance and the

state.

> But we can't get them to cover ANY speech therapy. We're considering

> paying our SLP out of pocket, but to do so, we have to forfeit all

of

> his ABA funding.

>

> HELP! anybody with experience with ABA treatment used for Apraxia or

> strategies to get Speech Therapy covered in the state of Wisconsin -

> please reply.

>

[Guest guest]

applied behavioral analysis??

 

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Subject: [ ] Re: ABA therapy for Verbal Apraxia?

Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 10:55 AM

What does ABA stand for? My brain must be dead today, or I missed

something somewhere.

Thanks,

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Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 10:55 AM

What does ABA stand for? My brain must be dead today, or I missed

something somewhere.

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

This is our experience

My son is now 3.5 years old and has been diagnosed with pdd-nos

(autism) at 2 years old and with verbal appraxia at 2.8 months old.

Both diagnosis are true.

He has been receiving aba therapy before he got the appraxia

diagnosis and it helped him in that way that his aba therapist was

the first to recognize symptoms of appraxia, pushed for evaluation

for the same.

While waiting for evaluation she had the whole team work with my son

on simple sounds. Some of his firat targets were:

mmm

a, o, e, u

then:

ma

ba-ba

uh-oh

Then blowing bubbles, licking his lip left and right with his

tongue, etc.

All of this prepared him for his new speech promt therapist who

started after he was diagnosed with appraxia. So for us it helped

and it still does. All his goals are language goals. As he gets

better at speech he shows a lot of problems in other language areas

as well: pragmatic, etc.

It is important to have the right diagnosis. I would get him

evaluated again.

I also want to say that the same person who recogniozed that has

appraxia, thought at some times that he is not on the spectrum, but

unfortunatelly that is not true.

Good luck

[Guest guest]

I haven't read the other responses to this question so pardon if any

is a repeat. The debate raged on at my son's school re: ABA for

speech. The ABA therapist was able to bring out a lot of attempted

speech/expressive communication from my son with fun activities and

other therapeutic programs aimed at teaching things he was excited

about and he was able to respond with verbal approximations. The

speech therapist was leery that he would practice sounds, but make

them the " wrong way " - learn to make sounds with inappropriate

placement or say words with the wrong sounds...and since everyone was

so happy to hear him communicate they weren't caring about

articulation. The agreement was that the SLP and ABA therapist would

work together on sounds that were being targeted and to work more to

reward proper articulation as much as possible ( my son is motivated

by fun and praise...). Luciky our ABA and Speech therapists were able

to agree that they each had specialities that the other could not

replicate so they decided to meet half way. But I will say that it

was the silly ABA therapist would finally was able to get my son to

take a chance a work on verbal expression...(that and EFAs and

Vitamin E :-) )

Good luck,

>

> This is our experience

>

> My son is now 3.5 years old and has been diagnosed with pdd-nos

> (autism) at 2 years old and with verbal appraxia at 2.8 months old.

> Both diagnosis are true.

>

> He has been receiving aba therapy before he got the appraxia

> diagnosis and it helped him in that way that his aba therapist was

> the first to recognize symptoms of appraxia, pushed for evaluation

> for the same.

>

> While waiting for evaluation she had the whole team work with my son

> on simple sounds. Some of his firat targets were:

> mmm

> a, o, e, u

> then:

> ma

> ba-ba

> uh-oh

>

> Then blowing bubbles, licking his lip left and right with his

> tongue, etc.

>

> All of this prepared him for his new speech promt therapist who

> started after he was diagnosed with appraxia. So for us it helped

> and it still does. All his goals are language goals. As he gets

> better at speech he shows a lot of problems in other language areas

> as well: pragmatic, etc.

>

>

> It is important to have the right diagnosis. I would get him

> evaluated again.

>

> I also want to say that the same person who recogniozed that has

> appraxia, thought at some times that he is not on the spectrum, but

> unfortunatelly that is not true.

>

> Good luck

>

[Guest guest]

My almost 7 yr old granddaughter has a vocabulary of only 30 words and

approximations after 4 1/2 years of speech therapy. She has verbal apraxia,

severe ADHD, fine motor challenges, and some other possible LDs such as

construction apraxia. She's mainstreamed in kindergarten with an ASL aide.

Lack of focus and concentration are the biggest obstacles to her academic

achievement. She is socially happy and blessed with good friends in her class.

I just want you to know that her ABA therapy has been invaluable in helping her

learn. Only her ABA therapist has been able to engage her for an hour at a time

and increase her knowledge in the fields of letters, numbers, and writing.

We're so grateful to have such an effective therapist!

Betsy , grandma to Madison

[Guest guest]

Have you explored the Beckett program in Wisconsin? It's a state funded

program that serves as secondary insurance. I " m no expert - Im just applying

now, but it's worth checking out. Beth

> >

> > My 3 1/2 year old son was diagnosed with Autism at age 2 and is

> > receiving intensive (35 hrs/week) of ABA therapy. His SLP (that we

> > found on our own through the hospital) is CONVINCED that he has

> Verbal

> > Apraxia with motor planning issues, NOT Autism. The more we learn,

> we

> > think that she is right.

> >

> > Can ABA therapy help a child with Apraxia? Can it hurt?

> >

> > The ABA therapy is almost entirely funded by insurance and the

> state.

> > But we can't get them to cover ANY speech therapy. We're considering

> > paying our SLP out of pocket, but to do so, we have to forfeit all

> of

> > his ABA funding.

> >

> > HELP! anybody with experience with ABA treatment used for Apraxia or

> > strategies to get Speech Therapy covered in the state of Wisconsin -

> > please reply.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I spoke to a doctor about ABA therapy and he did NOT recommend it. So, No I

don't think that it is going to help your child.  He said I needed a program

that had " structured instruction " .  I am also really into " Floortime " by

Dr.Greenspan, this is also not covered by insurance. 

[Guest guest]

ABA = Applied Behavioral Analysis.

My ABA therapist uses the Kaufman kit and the sign and say with him. When I did

a video consultation with Kaufman, Amy did a phone consult with her also.

and Amy set up a home program for my son. Amy also spoke with his private

SLP and the SLP at school. They both bought the Kaufman kit and Sign and Say. So

now he does apraixia therapy everyday but Sunday. They all work together so he

can get the maximum benefit.

Good Luck!

le

<tifnie611@> wrote:

> > >

> > > My 3 1/2 year old son was diagnosed with Autism at age 2 and is

> > > receiving intensive (35 hrs/week) of ABA therapy. His SLP (that we

> > > found on our own through the hospital) is CONVINCED that he has

> > Verbal

> > > Apraxia with motor planning issues, NOT Autism. The more we learn,

> > we

> > > think that she is right.

> > >

> > > Can ABA therapy help a child with Apraxia? Can it hurt?

> > >

> > > The ABA therapy is almost entirely funded by insurance and the

> > state.

> > > But we can't get them to cover ANY speech therapy. We're considering

> > > paying our SLP out of pocket, but to do so, we have to forfeit all

> > of

> > > his ABA funding.

> > >

> > > HELP! anybody with experience with ABA treatment used for Apraxia or

> > > strategies to get Speech Therapy covered in the state of Wisconsin -

> > > please reply.

> > >

> >

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