Guest guest Posted January 29, 2003 Report Share Posted January 29, 2003 <<at the conference, i purchased some of the kits to try with alec. luckily, one of his slps was there and is excited about trying this with him too. i'll let you know how he does with it. >> Hi Lori, I liked her site...I sent for a catalog and think there is some good information here. I can't wait to hear how it goes with Alec. You are speech certified though, right? What sort of things do you do with Alec at home also? anything? I never feel like I am doing enough... Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2003 Report Share Posted January 30, 2003 Our last speech therapist just started using this system with . She nows lives out of state and I didn't know where we could find the program. Thanks to all of you, I was able to find 's page and ordered the complete package to use with . I can't wait till it comes in and to start using it. We have our first meeting with Jon's new speech therapist at our local school tomorrow. We homeschool . We will be developing a new IEP for with the speech therapist on the 12th of next month. I wish we didn't have to wait that long, but we are just glad he will be receiving services. Roni Usborne Books For Children www.ubah.com/J1422 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2003 Report Share Posted January 31, 2003 In a message dated 1/29/2003 8:30:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, gboughton@... writes: > You are speech certified though, right? What sort of things do you do with > Alec at home also? anything? I never feel like I am doing enough... > Gail > Hi Gail, Yes, I am a speech/language Pathologist. I too feel like I am never doing enough for Alec. Today, I met with his new OT, who is wonderful. But, she spent a long time telling me all of Alec's problems and what I should be doing with him. Yes, I know that he had major problems with tactile d efensiveness, low tone and other sensory issues. SHe had lots of helpful suggestions on how to have him sit and what things to do with him. He wants to do things his way and play boy stuff. Right now, he is in the playroom playing nintendo games which he insists on figuring out himself. He has gotten really good at them. As far as your question about what I do with Alec. I do not work traditional speech therapy with my own son. I can get therapists and tutors, but he has only one mom. What I do is always have in the back of my mind what his goals are. For example, if he is working on using prepositional phrases and we are playing catch. I'll miss the ball--act goofy and ask him where it is. If he does not describe it enuf, i won't be able to find the ball. Another example is that alec loves to play with his little toys. i'll hide one behind my back and give him clues as to which one i have. he has gotten to love this game and calls it " liitle toy ask the question game " This works on many areas of language. If we go to a some place special, i may take the digital camera with us. WHen we get home, we'll make a book about it using the pictures and words that he can read. There are many things like this that I do with ALec to informally work with his speech/language skills thru play and having fun. For those of you who are not on the list, Dr Jim Macdonald has a fantastic communication list. Gail, did this answer your question? If you want more ideas--i'll be happy to give you some. Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 In a message dated 3/3/2008 2:30:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, lizlaw@... writes: Interesting as my NT daughter I am told, will need a palate expander. Would be nice if that expense could be avoided:) I'll be interested to hear your findings. my NT daughter needed a palate expander and was fine after. She's now wearing a retainer and awaiting braces at the appropriate time becky **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 I know nothing about myomuchies since so few used it here - but will ask Sara. Low tone in the mouth area typically creates a dysarthria. You can have a child that has both dyspraxia/apraxia -or a motor planning disorder and dysarthria -or weakness issues. Those who only have dysarthria have consistent errors while apraxia historically is inconsistent errors. Here's an at home program -have no idea how good or bad it is -but am sending the link to show these two issues go together many times. This program for apraxia and dysarthria -geared to adults -if for at home use. http://www.communicationscripts.com/html/oralmotor.php There is a political situation between those in the oral motor as part of a strategy for some with apraxia camp and those in the think they know everything but don't know jack camp. I'd get a new SLP if I were you because the best ones know that they may need to pull from various strategies to make the most progress with our multifaceted children. Apraxia today is rarely " just " apraxia. And yes many children with apraxia have sensory issues in the mouth -they over stuff -have other feeding issues. Some like my son have trouble moving their tongue or making facial movements on command. http://www.cherab.org/information/speechlanguage/oralapraxia.html Here's an archived answer from Sara -the one behind talk tools and then a PDF on it that I printed it but better to open it on your own. From: " kiddietalk " <kiddietalk@...> Subject: Re: Inability to Blow and Imitate / from Sara CCC SLP , The reason for the confusion as to who is best suited to work on these oral-motor activities (i.e., " lick lips, stick his tongue out, blow, suck through a straw, etc. " ) is really based on the fact that both professions are interested in developing these skills. The skills of blowing and sucking impact on feeding and speech development. The same muscles that are used in feeding are used in speech. Both professions therefore feel it is in their job description to work on the activities. Both are right. In our clinics we share the goals but use different techniques. The O.T.'s are generally interested in gaining function for independence while we SLP's want not only function we want normal movement. Speech is superimposed on normal movement so when we talk about straw drinking we talk about it in a hierarchy of muscle development as in the TalkTools Straw Hierarchy. When we talk about blowing we create our programs to develop adequate airflow for extended speech statements. You need more air for a 5 word phrase than you do for a 2 word utterance. Therefore, instead of just picking up any horn or blowing cotton balls we again work in a hierarchy of abdominal grading activities (Horn Blowing Hierarchy or Bubble Blowing Hierarchy.) I am just thrilled that both professions are claiming the goals as their own. It was not so long ago that SLP's did not see the benefit of working on non-speech movements for the development of speech clarity. Sara Rosenfeld- http://www.oromotorsp.com http://www.cherab.org/information/speechlanguage/advisoryjohnson.html http://www.txsha.org/Convention/pdf/Rosenfeld-,%20Sara-Apraxia.pdf Copyright ©2005 TalkTools® / Innovative Therapists International Apraxia/Dysarthria: Oral-Motor (Muscle-Based) Therapy Post-CVA Sara Rosenfeld-, M.S., CCC-SLP Goals of Oral-Motor/ Feeding/Speech Therapy 1. To increase the awareness of the oral mechanism 2. To normalize oral tactile sensitivity 3. To teach more normal movement patterns 4. To increase differentiation of oral movements a. Dissociation: The separation of movement, based on stability and strength, in one or more muscle groups. b. Grading: The controlled segmentation of movement through space based upon dissociation. c. Fixing: An abnormal posture used to compensate for reduced stability which inhibits mobility. 5. To improve feeding skills and nutritional intake 6. To improve speech sound production to maximize intelligibility Speech 1. Awareness 2. Placement 3. Strength/Muscle Memory 4. Production References: Oral-Motor Exercises for Speech Clarity and Assessment and Treatment of the Jaw – Putting it all Together: Sensory, Feeding and Speech Apraxia/Dysarthria: Oral-Motor (Muscle-Based) Therapy Post-CVA Sara Rosenfeld-, M.S., CCC-SLP Copyright ©2005 TalkTools® / Innovative Therapists International Phonation: Abdominal Grading 1. Horn Blowing Hierarchy a. Phonation goals b. Reduce/eliminate drooling c. Speech clarity goals d. Improve sensory awareness/reduce hypersensitivity 2. Bubble Blowing Resonation/Voicing Establish the Oral Airflow with Horn Blowing Hierarchy and Bubble Blowing Hierarchy Articulation: Jaw – Lip – Tongue Dissociation Tongue Lips Jaw Articulation: Jaw – Lip – Tongue Dissociation 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 HIGH MEDIUM LOW Articulation: Jaw – Lip – Tongue Dissociation 1. Jaw Exercises: To normalize strength and grading for safe feeding and for speech clarity. a. Feeding: Chewing on back molars b. Jaw Grading Bite Blocks*: (Jaw Heights 2-7) First of three Jaw Grading Bite Block Exercises 1) Place on lower back molar extending from the front of the mouth 2) Bite (hold for 10 seconds) 3) Pull forward with isometric resistance 4) Hold for 15 seconds 5) (Criteria for success = 10 times) c. Jaw Exerciser Bite-Tube Hierarchy Articulation: Jaw – Lip – Tongue Dissociation 2. Lip Exercises: To improve grading and symmetry for safe feeding and for speech clarity. a. Horn Blowing Hierarchies*: 1) Flat Mouthed Horns = Lip Closure Sounds 2) Round Mouthed Horns = Lip Rounding Sounds b. Flavored Tongue Depressor 1) Place single tongue depressor between closed lips – hold for 25 seconds 2) Add 1 penny to each side – 25 seconds 3) Continue until 16 pennies total – 25 seconds Apraxia/Dysarthria: Oral-Motor (Muscle-Based) Therapy Post-CVA Sara Rosenfeld-, M.S., CCC-SLP Copyright ©2005 TalkTools® / Innovative Therapists International Articulation: Jaw – Lip – Tongue Dissociation 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 8 Articulation: Jaw – Lip – Tongue Dissociation 3. Tongue Exercises: To teach tongue grading and symmetry for improved feeding and speech clarity. a. Straw Drinking Hierarchy 1) Thin Liquids (8 straws in hierarchy) a) Home Program = all thin liquids, all day Criteria to move to next straw = ease Articulation: Jaw – Lip – Tongue Dissociation Straw Drinking Hierarchy (Con't) 2. Thickened Liquids (3 straws in hierarchy) a) Homework: 3-4 ounces 1x per day for a minimum of week or until it gets easy Straw A = Jumbo Diameter (this is the only straw that you will change textures with) - Nectar - Smooth puree - Yogurt (no pieces) - Pudding Articulation: Jaw – Lip – Tongue Dissociation Straw Drinking Hierarchy (Con't) c) Criteria to move to next texture = ease d) Straws B, C, D all use pudding texture only Note: Can be completed without liquid Articulation: Jaw – Lip – Tongue Dissociation 3. Tongue Exercises (Con't) b. Tongue-Tip Lateralization Tool c. Tongue-Tip Elevation/Depression Tool Transitioning Movement to Speech Production Apraxia Program 1. Bi-labial Shapes 2. Tactile Tubes 3. Speech Blocks HORN BLOWING HIERARCHY Phonation and Articulation www.talktools.net 3420 N. Dodge Blvd., Suite 148, Tucson, AZ 85716 Phone: 888-529-2879 / Local Tel: 520-795-8544 Fax: 520-795-8559 Email: info@... Copyright ©1993 TalkTools® / Innovative Therapists International The horns presented on this Airflow Hierarchy form represent a technique for improving abdominal muscle strength for prolongation of controlled exhalation. The #1 horn is easiest to blow. The therapist should hold the horn perpendicular to the client's mouth. By allowing the client to hold the horn, you may facilitate the following compensatory problems: 1. Teeth biting on the mouthpiece for jaw stability, which will inhibit jaw-lip dissociation. 2. Body extensor patterns which are associated with volitional hand- to-mouth movements in many of our clients. 3. Bite reflex. Although each horn is presented as it relates to improving airflow, horns are also a valuable tool for improving articulation by increasing awareness, creating placement and developing strength in specific muscles, and for reducing/eliminating drooling. Working with horns facilitates increased muscle strength/muscle memory as a prerequisite to the development of the following components of standard speech production: 1. Jaw grading 5. Lip rounding 2. Jaw-lip dissociation 6.* Tongue retraction 3. Jaw-tongue dissociation 7. Back of tongue side spread 4. Lip closure for saliva control (drooling) 8. Motor planning All horns from #9 through #14 are more difficult to blow. As lip protrusion is increased, tongue retraction will be initiated. These horns will address tongue retraction, which is a necessary component of all speech sound production with the exception of / & #952; – ð /. Use horns from #9 through #14 with children who do not necessarily have airflow deficits, but are working on the correction of an interdental lisp. NOTE: When a client relies on lip retraction to blow a horn, it may be a compensatory pattern to establish jaw stability. Go to a lower level on the hierarchy until the client can blow with abdominal constriction and lip closure, rounding or protrusion. Inhibit all compensatory body posture. #1 = any duration #2 = 1 sec. #3, 4 = 1+ sec. #5, 6, 7, 8 = 2 sec. #9, 10 = 2+ sec. # 11, 12, 13, 14 = 3 sec. HORN BLOWING HIERARCHY Phonation and Articulation www.talktools.net 3420 N. Dodge Blvd., Suite 148, Tucson, AZ 85716 Phone: 888-529-2879 / Local Tel: 520-795-8544 Fax: 520-795-8559 Email: info@... Copyright ©1993 TalkTools® / Innovative Therapists International Muscle-Based Goals 1. 1. Lip Closure: Bilabial sounds / m - b - p / - Lower lip / f - v - r / 2. - Drooling control 2. Lip Closure: Bilabial sounds / m - b - p / 3. - Lower Lip / f - v - r / 3. First Level Lip Rounding: - Lower lip / f - v - r / 4. - Prerequisite for lip rounding sounds / w - oo - & #643; - t & #643; - / 4. Lip Closure: Bilabial sounds / m - b - p / - Lower lip / f - v - r / 5. - Drooling control 5. Lip Closure: Bilabial sounds / m - b - p / - Lower lip / f - v - r / 6.* - Drooling control 6.* Second Level Lip Rounding: - Prerequisite for lip rounding sounds / w - oo - & #643; - t & #643; - / 7. 7. Low Jaw, Open Mouth Sounds: (vowels) / ah - eh - ih - uh / 8. 8. Lip Closure: Bilabial sounds / m - b - p / - Lower lip / f - v - r / 9. 9. Lip Protrusion / Tongue Retraction: / w - oo - & #643; - t & #643; - - s - z - t - d - & #949; - r / 10. 10. Lip Protrusion / Tongue Retraction: / w - oo - & #643; - t & #643; - - s - z - t - d - & #949; - r / 11. 11. Lip Protrusion / Tongue Retraction: / w - oo - & #643; - t & #643; - - s - z - t - d - & #949; - r / Graded airflow 12. 12. Lip Protrusion / Rapid Tongue Retraction with Release: / w - oo - & #643; - t & #643; - - k - g - r / 13. 13. Lip Protrusion / Tongue Retraction: / w - oo - & #643; - t & #643; - - s - z - t - d - & #949; - r / Graded airflow 14. 14. Lip Protrusion / Tongue Retraction: / w - oo - & #643; - t & #643; - - s - z - t - d - & #949; - r / Apraxia/Dysarthria: Oral-Motor Therapy Post-CVA Sara Rosenfeld-, M.S., CCC/SLP Copyright ©2005 TalkTools® / Innovative Therapists International Charts from the book entitled: Assessment & Treatment of the Jaw - Putting it All Together: Sensory Feeding and Speech Sara Rosenfeld-, MS, CCC-SLP Copyright ©2005 TalkTools® / Innovative Therapists International HOW TO EVALUATE JAW STABILITY These exercises are presented in chronology. Follow the chart from left to right beginning with Bite Block #2 and the exercise entitled, A. Bite Block Exercise. If the client achieves the Criteria for Success, progress to B. Twin Bite Block Exercise using Bite Block #2. If the client achieves Criteria for Success, progress to C. Bite Block for Jaw Stability Exercise using Bite Block #2. If the client achieves the Criteria for Success in this exercise repeat the same sequence of exercises using Bite Blocks #3 through #7 as listed in the chart below. Exercise D. Jaw Exerciser will only be used if the client achieves the Criteria for Success for all exercises involving Bite Blocks #2 through #7. Note: As soon as the client fails to reach the Criteria for Success for any of the exercises listed below, you have completed your jaw diagnostic workup. Therapy will begin at this level. Tool A. Bite Block Exercise B. Twin Bite Block Exercise C. Bite Block for Jaw Stability Exercise Bite Block #2 15 sec. R ________ 15 sec. L (1x) 15 sec. R – 15 sec. L (1x) 15 sec. (1x) Bite Block #3 15 sec. R ________ 15 sec. L (1x) 15 sec. R – 15 sec. L (1x) 15 sec. (1x) Bite Block #4 15 sec. R ________ 15 sec. L (1x) 15 sec. R – 15 sec. L (1x) 15 sec. (1x) Bite Block #5 15 sec. R ________ 15 sec. L (1x) 15 sec. R – 15 sec. L (1x) 15 sec. (1x) Bite Block #6 15 sec. R ________ 15 sec. L (1x) 15 sec. R – 15 sec. L (1x) 15 sec. (1x) Bite Block #7 15 sec. R ________ 15 sec. L (1x) 15 sec. R – 15 sec. L (1x) 15 sec. (1x) D. Jaw Exerciser Jaw Exerciser #1 Position #1, 15 seconds (1x) Position #2, 15 seconds (1x) Position #3, 15 seconds (1x) Jaw Exerciser #2 Position #1, 15 seconds (1x) Position #2, 15 seconds (1x) Position #3, 15 seconds (1x) Criteria for Success: Completes all of the above Diagnosis: Symmetrical Jaw Stability Treatment: No jaw exercises are needed Charts from the book entitled: Assessment & Treatment of the Jaw - Putting it All Together: Sensory Feeding and Speech Sara Rosenfeld-, MS, CCC-SLP Copyright ©2005 TalkTools® / Innovative Therapists International SCENARIOS THAT WILL REQUIRE JAW EXERCISE THERAPY Tool: Bite Block #2 Criteria for Success (C for S): 15 seconds per side, 1 x Therapy Technique Right Left Diagnosis Bite Block #2 Slow Feed Gum Chewing A 7 sec. 7 sec. Symmetrical 1 unit = 1x Right -- 1x Left 1 unit = 1x Right – 1x Left 1 unit = 1x Right – 1x Left Jaw Weakness (7 sec. R, 7 sec. L), 10x Narrow/crunchy or easy to chew ½ piece C for S: 15 sec. per side, 1x C for S: 10x per day until C for S for Bite (1 min. R, 1 min. L) 1x Progress to: Twin Bite Block Exercise Block #2 exercise is met C for S: 15 min. per side per day or until with Bite Block #2 C for S for Bite Block #2 exercise is met B 8 sec. 3 sec. Asymmetrical 1 unit = 1x Right -- 2x Left 1 unit = 1x Right – 2x Left 1 unit = 1x Right – 2x Left Jaw Weakness (3 sec. L, 8 sec. R, 3sec. L), 10x Narrow/crunchy or easy to chew ½ piece Both sides are Re-evaluate and begin there C for S: 10x per day or until C for S for (1 min. L, 1 min. R, 1 min.L) weak but one (i.e., 5-L, 10-R, 5-L) Bite Block #2 exercise is met C for S: 15 min. per side per day or until side is weaker C for S: 15 sec. per side, 1x C for S for Bite Block #2 exercise is met Progress to: Twin Bite Block Exercise with Bite Block #2 C 4 sec. 15 sec. Asymmetrical 1 unit = 1x Right -- 0x Left 1 unit = 1x Right – 0x Left 1 unit = 1x Right – 0x Left Jaw Weakness (4 sec. R) 10x Narrow/crunchy or easy to chew ½ piece Only one side C for S: 15 sec. per side, 1x C for S: 10x per day or until C for S for (1 min. R, ) 1x is weak Progress to: Twin Bite Block Exercise Bite Block #2 exercise is met C for S: 15 min. per side per day or until with Bite Block #2 C for S for Bite Block #2 exercise is met http://www.txsha.org/Convention/pdf/Rosenfeld-,%20Sara-Apraxia.pdf ===== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 PS -just sent an email to Sara about the myomunchie -but if one does a google search there will either be only 5 or 8 hits -and that includes the message boards that come up -it's just not out there yet. I'm curious if I should also get the opinion of dentists on this as if it does help reduce needing orthodontic treatment -wow that would be amazing. Wonder how much it reduces it....One of my very good friends here is an orthodontist and Dakota is one of the first in our area to have I Braces http://www.lingualcare.com/ which cost WAY more than 40 bucks! Forget oral motor therapy -I wish I knew about this (if it worked) so that we wouldn't have had to pay for braces! (or almost twice as much for Ibraces!!) Isn't it funny that Ibraces which are just braces for the teeth are at a website called " lingual care " and the couple of you that bought the myomunchie it's at a website called " smileperfect " ? Anyway I guess when I made that joke about braces the other day I wasn't far off. Outside of smileperfect -here's one of the only sites on it out there: Myo Munchee Exerciser (for Children) Strengthens muscles Closes open bites Corrects crossbites Cleans teeth Helps to prevent poor oral posture Reduces the need for orthodontic treatment http://www.drkorourke.com/photoGallery.html ===== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Interesting as my NT daughter I am told, will need a palate expander. Would be nice if that expense could be avoided:) I'll be interested to hear your findings. > > PS -just sent an email to Sara about the myomunchie -but if one does > a google search there will either be only 5 or 8 hits -and that > includes the message boards that come up -it's just not out there > yet. I'm curious if I should also get the opinion of dentists on > this as if it does help reduce needing orthodontic treatment -wow > that would be amazing. Wonder how much it reduces it....One of my > very good friends here is an orthodontist and Dakota is one of the > first in our area to have I Braces http://www.lingualcare.com/ which > cost WAY more than 40 bucks! Forget oral motor therapy -I wish I > knew about this (if it worked) so that we wouldn't have had to pay > for braces! (or almost twice as much for Ibraces!!) Isn't it funny > that Ibraces which are just braces for the teeth are at a website > called " lingual care " and the couple of you that bought the > myomunchie it's at a website called " smileperfect " ? Anyway I guess > when I made that joke about braces the other day I wasn't far off. > > Outside of smileperfect -here's one of the only sites on it out there: > > Myo Munchee Exerciser > (for Children) > Strengthens muscles > Closes open bites > Corrects crossbites > Cleans teeth > Helps to prevent poor oral posture > Reduces the need for orthodontic treatment > > http://www.drkorourke.com/photoGallery.html > > ===== > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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