Guest guest Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 , what kind of calcium do you use? Thanks, RE: Re: teeth grinding Hi For my son . . . Putting things in his mouth (eg toys, pegs, other small objects) - fixed by zinc Eating / chewing on things (eg the piano, exercise bike, ribbons, chalk) - fixed by calcium Grinding teeth - fixed by magnesium Good luck :-) Just saw in Haleh's post that teeth grinding is low zinc. Is that always the case, or could it be yeast? won't have any teeth left if this continues! Thanks, and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 Yes, for my son it was definitely yeast. Chelsea > > Just saw in Haleh's post that teeth grinding is low zinc. Is that > always the case, or could it be yeast? won't have any teeth left > if this continues! > > Thanks, > and > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 If it matters, what works for is true for my son. Yeast can cause chewing on clothes for my kid, but not teeth grinding. That is always fixed by cal/mag. We use Kirkman's calcium powder and their magnesium citrate (also sometimes use Thorne's). I have also read that grinding is often a lead problem (same temporary fix of upping calcium/magnesium). Judy > > Just saw in Haleh's post that teeth grinding is low zinc. Is that > always the case, or could it be yeast? won't have any teeth left > if this continues! > > Thanks, > and > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 what kind of calcium do you use? Hi I use Metagenics " Calcite Hi-strength " . He has a half tablet (crushed) daily as required. :-) _____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 > > Just saw in Haleh's post that teeth grinding is low zinc. Is that > always the case, or could it be yeast? won't have any teeth left > if this continues! For my kids, teeth grinding was a result of improper zinc/copper ratio. Three of my kids needed zinc, one needed copper. I have read info from other parents that the grinding was caused by deficiencies of calcium, magnesium, or vitamin B5. Yeast overgrowth can do it. So can parasites. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Hi Just to update this . . . my son has had the " chewies " incredibly recently. In the past what I listed below had always sorted it out, but this time it didn't. I added in a short term yeast fighter and that seems to have done the trick. For my son . . . Putting things in his mouth (eg toys, pegs, other small objects) - fixed by zinc Eating / chewing on things (eg the piano, exercise bike, ribbons, chalk) - fixed by calcium Grinding teeth - fixed by magnesium Good luck :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Also, a few people have achieved the no chewing problem with the addition of pantothenic acid, or pantethine. It appears in some kids this is a stress reacting and B5 decreases stress-related behaviors. FW: Re: teeth grinding > Hi > > Just to update this . . . my son has had the " chewies " incredibly > recently. > In the past what I listed below had always sorted it out, but this time it > didn't. I added in a short term yeast fighter and that seems to have done > the trick. > > > > > > For my son . . . > > Putting things in his mouth (eg toys, pegs, other small objects) - fixed > by > zinc > > Eating / chewing on things (eg the piano, exercise bike, ribbons, chalk) - > fixed by calcium > > Grinding teeth - fixed by magnesium > > Good luck > > :-) > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Increasing Calcium supplementation stopped this in my son. Pamela " Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage unless you're scared. " Eddie Rickenbacker, top US fighter ace, WWI _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of incoehoots Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 2:36 PM Subject: [ ] Teeth Grinding HI all We are finishing up our 3rd round of chelation (dmsa/ala) on our 6 yo son. We treated for yeast before the start of chelation. I am not sure when, but my son started grinding his teeth. He started before the yeast treatment. I thought it was an anxiety/stim sort of thing. He has got worse with chelation. His top teeth are wore down (baby teeth) and now he is opening his mouth like he is trying to pop his jaw. I was giving him zinc, but with all the supplements the doc has him on, it is hard to get it in. His doc has told me to use activated charcoal, but this would be extemely difficult, as you are supposed to give it by itself not around food or other supps. Any suggestions would be greatly apprecited. This is my second post, the first never came through, but if it did sorry to repeat myself. I am really worried about this. Thanks Mandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Increasing Zinc stopped the grinding for my dd. Karyn -- [ ] Teeth Grinding HI all We are finishing up our 3rd round of chelation (dmsa/ala) on our 6 yo son. We treated for yeast before the start of chelation. I am not sure when, but my son started grinding his teeth. He started before the yeast treatment. I thought it was an anxiety/stim sort of thing. He has got worse with chelation. His top teeth are wore down (baby teeth) and now he is opening his mouth like he is trying to pop his jaw. I was giving him zinc, but with all the supplements the doc has him on, it is hard to get it in. His doc has told me to use activated charcoal, but this would be extemely difficult, as you are supposed to give it by itself not around food or other supps. Any suggestions would be greatly apprecited. This is my second post, the first never came through, but if it did sorry to repeat myself. I am really worried about this. Thanks Mandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 >>but my son started grinding his teeth. He started before > the yeast treatment. For my kids, this meant improper zinc/copper ratio. Three kids needed zinc, one needed copper. It can also mean yeast overgrowth. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Dana I did read that on your website. Zinc seems to help. In all the supplements my doctor has us doing, I am not sure if there is any copper, unless it is in something else. Do I need to give him copper? > >>but my son started grinding his teeth. He started before > > the yeast treatment. > > > For my kids, this meant improper zinc/copper ratio. Three kids needed > zinc, one needed copper. > > It can also mean yeast overgrowth. > > Dana > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Generally one wantx to avoid supplementing copper unless you know the person is low in it. S S <p>Dana<br> I did read that on your website. Zinc seems to help. In all the <br> supplements my doctor has us doing, I am not sure if there is any <br> copper, unless it is in something else. Do I need to give him <br> copper?<br> < _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 > Dana > I did read that on your website. Zinc seems to help. In all the > supplements my doctor has us doing, I am not sure if there is any > copper, unless it is in something else. Do I need to give him > copper? Does the zinc cause any problems, especially like nosebleeds? If so, add some copper. Most kids don't need copper supplementation, but some do. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Here'e one description. http://www.ehealthmd.com/library/glueear/GE_whatis.html S S <p>What is glue ear?<br> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 >Does any one know if teeth grinding is caused by any mineral deficiency? Hi Vinutha Teeth grinding at our house is due to magnesium deficiency. Good luck :-) ,_._,___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 At my house teeth grinding was happening when their zinc and copper ratio was outta whack. The magnesium is always a good thing...but you also might want to try a little zinc. hth Ronni > >Does any one know if teeth grinding is caused by any mineral deficiency? > > Hi Vinutha > > Teeth grinding at our house is due to magnesium deficiency. > > Good luck > > :-) > > ,_._,___ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 My son who is 5 yrs , grinds his teeth a lot of late. Does anyone has suggestions which has worked? thanks, roopa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 + From my studies I have learned that teeth grinding could be from a lack of mag. and/ or parasites. One could try black walnut for the parasites, this could also help build the enamel on the teeth. As far as the magnesium goes, calcium is not needed for mag. but mag. is needed when taking calcium. Jane www.KidsHealthNaturally.com > > One of my boys grinded his teeth almost continuously and the other did it from time to time. We started supplemented with 200 to 300 mg of magnesium glycinate spread throughout the day and the teeth grinding completely stopped. > > Dana > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Jane -does the black walnut work for older people too?!! (parasites aside -doesn't our teeth enamel get thinner as we age?) There are a number of well known reasons why children may go through this stage (with and without speech issues) In this group; with the speech issues, there may be added reasons for teeth grinding. For some reason prior to a surge some go through this temporary stage, and while we know some here go through the oral exploration stage late- during that stage they go through some teeth grinding as well. More in the archive below: Re: Teeth Grinding Hope some of these archives help -but in short this is very normal -and it passes -and there in most cases reasons for this " stage " (at least appears to be on in this group! See archives below) Bruxism (Teeth Grinding or Clenching) KidsHealth Contact form https://secure02.kidshealth.org/parent/kh_misc/send_mail.html When you look in on your sleeping child, you want to hear the sounds of sweet dreams: easy breathing and perhaps an occasional sigh. But some parents hear the harsher sounds of gnashing and grinding teeth, called bruxism, which is common in kids. What Is Bruxism? Bruxism is the medical term for the grinding of teeth or the clenching of jaws, especially during deep sleep or while under stress. It comes from the Greek word " brychein, " which means to gnash the teeth. Three out of every 10 kids will grind or clench, experts say, with the highest incidence in children under 5. Causes of Bruxism Though studies have been done, no one knows why bruxism happens. But in some cases, kids may grind because the top and bottom teeth aren't aligned properly. Others do it as a response to pain, such as an earache or teething. Kids might grind their teeth as a way to ease the pain, just as they might rub a sore muscle. Most kids outgrow these fairly common causes for grinding. Stress — usually nervous tension or anger — is another cause. For instance, your child may be worrying about a test at school or experiencing a change in routine (a new sibling or a new teacher). Even arguing with parents and siblings can cause enough stress to prompt teeth grinding or jaw clenching. Some kids who are hyperactive also experience bruxism. Effects of Bruxism Generally, bruxism doesn't hurt a child's teeth. Many cases go undetected with no adverse effects, though some may result in mild morning headaches or earaches. Most often, however, the condition can be more bothersome to you and others in your home because of the grinding sound. In some extreme circumstances, nighttime grinding and clenching can wear down tooth enamel, chip teeth, increase temperature sensitivity, and cause severe facial pain and jaw problems, such as temporomandibular joint disease (TMJ). Most kids who grind, however, do not have TMJ problems unless their grinding and clenching is chronic. Diagnosing Bruxism Lots of kids who grind their teeth aren't even aware of it, so it's often siblings or parents who identify the problem. Some signs to watch for: grinding noises when your child is sleeping complaints of a sore jaw or face in the morning thumb sucking fingernail biting gnawing on pencils and toys chewing the inside of the cheek If you think your child is grinding his or her teeth, visit the dentist, who will examine the teeth for chipped enamel and unusual wear and tear, and spray air and water on the teeth to check for unusual sensitivity. If damage is detected, the dentist will ask your child a few questions, such as: How do you feel before bed? Are you worried about anything at home or school? Are you angry with someone? What do you do before bed? The exam will help the dentist determine whether the grinding is caused by anatomical (misaligned teeth) or psychological (stress) factors and come up with an effective treatment plan. Treating Bruxism Most kids outgrow bruxism, but a combination of parental observation and dental visits can help keep the problem in check until they do. In cases where the grinding and clenching make a child's face and jaw sore or damage the teeth, dentists may prescribe a special night guard. Molded to a child's teeth, the night guard is similar to the protective mouthpieces worn by football players. Though a mouthpiece may take some getting used to, positive results happen quickly. Helping Kids With Bruxism Whether the cause is physical or psychological, kids might be able to control bruxism by relaxing before bedtime — for example, by taking a warm bath or shower, listening to a few minutes of soothing music, or reading a book. For bruxism that's caused by stress, try to find out what's upsetting your child and find a way to help. For example, a kid who is worried about being away from home for a first camping trip might need reassurance that mom or dad will be nearby if anything happens. If the issue is more complicated, such as moving to a new town, discuss your child's concerns and try to ease any fears. If you're concerned about your child's emotional state, talk to your doctor. In rare cases, basic stress relievers aren't enough to stop bruxism. If your child has trouble sleeping or is acting differently than usual, your child's dentist or doctor may suggest a psychological assessment. This can help determine the cause of the stress and an appropriate course of treatment. How Long Does Bruxism Last? Childhood bruxism is usually outgrown by adolescence. Most kids stop grinding when they lose their baby teeth because permanent teeth are much more sensitive to pain. However, a few children do continue to grind into adolescence. And if the bruxism is caused by stress, it will continue until the stress is relieved. Preventing Bruxism Because some bruxism is a child's natural reaction to growth and development, most cases can't be prevented. Stress-induced bruxism can be avoided, however, by talking with kids regularly about their feelings and helping them deal with stress. Reviewed by: A. Goss, RDH, BS, and Charlie J. Inga, DDS Date reviewed: September 2007 Originally reviewed by: A. Goss, RDH, BS, and Garrett B. Lyons, DDS ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~(a bite guard and occlusal splints is the same thing) Occlusal splints for treating sleep bruxism (tooth grinding) By: Macedo CR, Silva AB, Machado MA, Saconato H, Prado GF The Cochrane Collaboration October 17, 2007 Abstract Background Sleep bruxism is an oral activity characterised by teeth grinding or clenching during sleep. Several treatments for sleep bruxism have been proposed such as pharmacological, psychological, and dental. Objectives To evaluate the effectiveness of occlusal splints for the treatment of sleep bruxism with alternative interventions, placebo or no treatment. Search strategy We searched the Cochrane Oral Health Group's Trials Register (to May 2007); the Cochrane Central Register of Controlled Trials (CENTRAL) (The Cochrane Library 2007, Issue 1); MEDLINE (1966 to May 2007); EMBASE (1980 to May 2007); LILACS (1982 to May 2007); Biblioteca Brasileira de Odontologia (1982 to May 2007); Dissertation, Theses and Abstracts (1981 to May 2007); and handsearched abstracts of particular importance to this review. Additional reports were identified from the reference lists of retrieved reports and from article reviews about treating sleep bruxism. There were no language restrictions. Selection criteria We selected randomised or quasi-randomised controlled trials (RCTs), in which splint therapy was compared concurrently to no treatment, other occlusal appliances, or any other intervention in participants with sleep bruxism. Data collection and analysis Data extraction was carried out independently and in duplicate. Validity assessment of the included trials was carried out at the same time as data extraction. Discrepancies were discussed and a third review author consulted. The author of the primary study was contacted when necessary. Main results Thirty-two potentially relevant RCTs were identified. Twenty-four trials were excluded. Five RCTs were included. Occlusal splint was compared to: palatal splint, mandibular advancement device, transcutaneous electric nerve stimulation, and no treatment. There was just one common outcome (arousal index) which was combined in a meta-analysis. No statistically significant differences between the occlusal splint and control groups were found in the meta-analyses. Authors' conclusions There is not sufficient evidence to state that the occlusal splint is effective for treating sleep bruxism. Indication of its use is questionable with regard to sleep outcomes, but it may be that there is some benefit with regard to tooth wear. This systematic review suggests the need for further investigation in more controlled RCTs that pay attention to method of allocation, outcome assessment, large sample size, and sufficient duration of follow up. The study design must be parallel, in order to eliminate the bias provided by studies of cross-over type. A standardisation of the outcomes of the treatment of sleep bruxism should be established in the RCTs. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~archives In the archives many times tooth grinding is reported as one of those " bad signs " once the child starts the fish oils that is really a good sign. Again for some reason this comes up lots when parents start the child on the oils so much of the archives point to that. Re: 3 yr old grinding teeth Could be (again) ...normal -read on/archive: Re: Pro-EFA (teeth grinding) Kristie this too has come up many times before so have some answers below in archives. For a better idea however can you please let us know why 2 a day vs one a day of ProEFA for a 2 year old? For a 4 year old or older I would understand even starting at 2 a day -but not at 2. Not that anything you see is " bad " but you may just want to cut down on his dosage a bit to one a day. Or... Did he already hit the first plateau (around 3-6 month time range) so you raised him to 2? If so how long ago did you raise him? Have you always noticed the teeth grinding etc. since any ProEFA? How long has he been taking ProEFA? Why don't you give both together in the AM? Yes I was the child that always asked why! Anyway -below are some archives to help show you that 'you are far from alone'! From: " kiddietalk " <kiddietalk@...> Date: Sun May 29, 2005 4:33 pm Subject: Re: reading all the posts of nail biting - what about teeth grinding It's normal to worry -but most of us don't have to worry about tooth grinding in young children or do anything to try to stop it. Besides -we again can't always assume there are negative reasons when it may be a normal stage -or even a reason for it in regards to later speech. Just a quick note before the archive. We went out on the boat to the beach today with another family with kids in our neighborhood who we get together with all the time. Before we did that however we all went out to breakfast -and Tanner asked if he can drive back with Mark (neighbor) because he has a convertible -everyone else went in our car. At the beach today Mark asked me and Glenn " You know I never noticed before but when Tanner was talking to me today in the car (he then paused like he didn't know how to ask this)....does he have some type of speech problem? " We had never said anything -and he only noticed it today! We explained for the first time what apraxia was. He then said he had no idea because that when Tanner talked to him before it was never a long conversation like today. Guess he thought we'd take that in a bad way that he asked -but I'm thrilled he didn't notice till today! Wow! (Now of course however I want him to be able to talk for long periods of time and for people not to notice then either!) And back on topic -yes Tanner was a tooth grinder -but as it says below -without doing anything, changing anything -it just stopped. (Just as my dentist friend said it would when I was all worried about it!) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~start of archive From: " kiddietalk " <kiddietalk@...> Date: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:44 am Subject: Re: [ ]bruxism (tooth grinding) Hi Giseli! Apraxia and tooth grinding? There is no direct connection that anyone knows for sure -just theories. It has come up as a subject in the past, but not much. I know you had Igor on EFAs (two ProEFA) first for four days -then for one -and each time reported some bad behavior and stopped. Tooth grinding may be another exploration side effect or it could just be developmental. I have an archive on this below. BTW -is Igor now on any EFAs? Steady? If so what formula and any changes? Did you try just one -or 1/2 capsule/ProEFA Jr.? ~~~~~~~~~~~start if archive It's apparent your child has some oral motor issues and the tooth grinding, which is not unusual in children as you will read below - may instead/in addition be an exploratory stage due to improvements from therapies (both traditional as well as complimentary ones like EFAs) As always -what we view as a " bad " thing may in fact be a sign of good things to come! " Believe it or not -this one is in the archives. This was considered > yet another 'bad sign' that is really a good sign. Some children > never fully > go through the teething stage which is a healthy part of oral > exploration > important for > developing speech. http://www.feeding.com/images/Oral%20Exploration.PDF May want to keep us posted in the weeks ahead! Here is an archive on this that may help: From: " kiddietalk " <kiddietalk@...> Date: Sat Dec 20, 2003 9:48 pm Subject: Re: New here and feeling guilty Hi Kim! The aspect of tooth grinding in your message caught my eye -and I have two archives on that below. Sometimes what we view as a bad thing could really be a good thing as we talked about with late teething. (archive) " I don't know exactly why your child is moving her mouth in unusual positions, or groping -however to me any changes outside the norm when you start your child on the EFAs is a great sign that something is clicking and that the surge may be soon approaching. (Please let us know when you see the surge in speech in the next week or two!) Since I receive lots of calls about this -I wanted to list the most common changes in an apraxic or other speech disordered child on EFAs from what I've read and heard and seen. 1. Increase in babbling or attempts at sounds. 2. Increase in imitation. Changes also can be looked for in (what you see as positive or negative) sleep attention appetite focus behavior stools Next will come a breakthrough of something you were probably working on for a bit -so you will be excited but will think " Well -I don't want to get my hopes up we were working on that for awhile now - maybe it's just a coincidence " However after the second or third surge in a short period of time -and then another - you are pretty sure things are different and it's at this point the professionals and the rest of the family and your friends are noticing it too - maybe about two to three weeks now. OK -the next stage is pure elation and hope -you see the light and no longer feel as desperate and want to share this new information with everyone and anyone. As the months go by and your child continues to progress at a much more rapid rate -you may even start to doubt the original diagnosis -especially if you started EFA supplementation at two -and perhaps the SLP that diagnosed the apraxia who also was at first excited is starting to second guess if the original diagnosis was correct as well. Unless you have to stop the ProEFA (or other Essential Fatty Acid) and literally have the chance to see the regression of acquired speech and language skills, attempts, and changes in behavior like we did with Tanner (and/or have a chance to again witness the second surge when your child is put back on the EFAs) -that doubt will probably remain somewhere in your mind and in others around your child. So the " I told you that he would start talking when he was ready " comments should be expected of course. ....The child on ProEFA or some other EFA formula's like it no longer fits the criteria of the classic definition of apraxia -and yet doesn't fit the classic perception of what a late talker is either... ....Here is what many of us have found to be the best plan anecdotally...start with the basic formula, one ProEFA a day, we saw surges in a few days to three weeks which continued for months - we then reached a plateau after around 6 months. At this point we raised the dosage to two capsules of ProEFA a day and once again had those surges which lasted again for months. When we reached the next plateau after around a year, instead of going to three a day - we squeezed 1/2 to one capsule of ProEPA into the 2 capsules of ProEFA and for almost all of us that try -that created another surge. Over time -you may raise the dosage up higher -and you may slightly change the formula to raise the Omega 3 over the Omega 6 ratio -but you need to know your own child, keep track of his progress through both your own observations and that of the professionals -with the advice of your child's doctor -to know what is best for him/her. " Let us know if you start having surges in the next few days! I wouldn't be surprised. There are a few messages in the archives about tooth grinding -here are just two: From: " cailg547 " <aigjr@...> Date: Fri Sep 13, 2002 11:37 am Subject: brain & efa's! My daughter had her second brain MRI yesterday. The first was when she was 2 and 1/2 now she is 4 and 1/2. The first one showed that her myelin needed to grow some more. We started supplementing with efa's right after that first MRI. First efalex until she was 3 and then proefa. We saw results with speech on the proefa and with the efelex she stopped teeth grinding. The MRI yesterday showed that her myelin is not only completely developed but extremely so. The myelin is the outer coating of brain cells and without it the brain can't make connections within itself so that you can function. People who have MS lose myelin. This development was very important for my daughter because it was also discovered what I had suspected, that she has some tiny spots is considered brain damage probably caused by lack of oxygen while she was in the birth canal too long (over 4 hours). It was explained to me that without the myelin the brain would not be able to find alternative routes to learn to do what that spot would have been responsible for. The pediatric radiologist said that they believe that most people stop producing myelin at age 3-3 1/2 but with efa's myelin can keep being produced! Carolyn aigjr@... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 + Yes the black walnut will help adult teeth. I add it to my toothpaste along with white oak bark. Black walnut will help build enamel and whiten teeth and white oak bark will fill in cavities and helps anything to do with teeth and gums.. So fascinating! Thank you so much for the archives. Jane www.KidsHealthNaturally.com > > Jane -does the black walnut work for older people too?!! (parasites > aside -doesn't our teeth enamel get thinner as we age?) There are a > number of well known reasons why children may go through this stage > (with and without speech issues) In this group; with the speech > issues, there may be added reasons for teeth grinding. For some > reason prior to a surge some go through this temporary stage, and > while we know some here go through the oral exploration stage late- > during that stage they go through some teeth grinding as well. More > in the archive below: > > Re: Teeth Grinding > > Hope some of these archives help -but in short this is very normal > -and it passes -and there in most cases reasons for this " stage " > (at least appears to be on in this group! See archives below) > > Bruxism (Teeth Grinding or Clenching) > KidsHealth > > Contact form > https://secure02.kidshealth.org/parent/kh_misc/send_mail.html > > When you look in on your sleeping child, you want to hear the sounds > of sweet dreams: easy breathing and perhaps an occasional sigh. But > some parents hear the harsher sounds of gnashing and grinding teeth, > called bruxism, which is common in kids. > > What Is Bruxism? > Bruxism is the medical term for the grinding of teeth or the > clenching of jaws, especially during deep sleep or while under > stress. It comes from the Greek word " brychein, " which means to gnash > the teeth. Three out of every 10 kids will grind or clench, experts > say, with the highest incidence in children under 5. > > Causes of Bruxism > Though studies have been done, no one knows why bruxism happens. But > in some cases, kids may grind because the top and bottom teeth aren't > aligned properly. Others do it as a response to pain, such as an > earache or teething. Kids might grind their teeth as a way to ease > the pain, just as they might rub a sore muscle. Most kids outgrow > these fairly common causes for grinding. > > Stress — usually nervous tension or anger — is another cause. For > instance, your child may be worrying about a test at school or > experiencing a change in routine (a new sibling or a new teacher). > Even arguing with parents and siblings can cause enough stress to > prompt teeth grinding or jaw clenching. > > Some kids who are hyperactive also experience bruxism. > > Effects of Bruxism > Generally, bruxism doesn't hurt a child's teeth. Many cases go > undetected with no adverse effects, though some may result in mild > morning headaches or earaches. Most often, however, the condition can > be more bothersome to you and others in your home because of the > grinding sound. > > In some extreme circumstances, nighttime grinding and clenching can > wear down tooth enamel, chip teeth, increase temperature sensitivity, > and cause severe facial pain and jaw problems, such as > temporomandibular joint disease (TMJ). Most kids who grind, however, > do not have TMJ problems unless their grinding and clenching is > chronic. > > Diagnosing Bruxism > Lots of kids who grind their teeth aren't even aware of it, so it's > often siblings or parents who identify the problem. > > Some signs to watch for: > > grinding noises when your child is sleeping > complaints of a sore jaw or face in the morning > thumb sucking > fingernail biting > gnawing on pencils and toys > chewing the inside of the cheek > If you think your child is grinding his or her teeth, visit the > dentist, who will examine the teeth for chipped enamel and unusual > wear and tear, and spray air and water on the teeth to check for > unusual sensitivity. > > If damage is detected, the dentist will ask your child a few > questions, such as: > > How do you feel before bed? > Are you worried about anything at home or school? > Are you angry with someone? > What do you do before bed? > The exam will help the dentist determine whether the grinding is > caused by anatomical (misaligned teeth) or psychological (stress) > factors and come up with an effective treatment plan. > > Treating Bruxism > Most kids outgrow bruxism, but a combination of parental observation > and dental visits can help keep the problem in check until they do. > > In cases where the grinding and clenching make a child's face and jaw > sore or damage the teeth, dentists may prescribe a special night > guard. Molded to a child's teeth, the night guard is similar to the > protective mouthpieces worn by football players. Though a mouthpiece > may take some getting used to, positive results happen quickly. > > Helping Kids With Bruxism > Whether the cause is physical or psychological, kids might be able to > control bruxism by relaxing before bedtime — for example, by taking a > warm bath or shower, listening to a few minutes of soothing music, or > reading a book. > > For bruxism that's caused by stress, try to find out what's upsetting > your child and find a way to help. For example, a kid who is worried > about being away from home for a first camping trip might need > reassurance that mom or dad will be nearby if anything happens. > > If the issue is more complicated, such as moving to a new town, > discuss your child's concerns and try to ease any fears. If you're > concerned about your child's emotional state, talk to your doctor. > > In rare cases, basic stress relievers aren't enough to stop bruxism. > If your child has trouble sleeping or is acting differently than > usual, your child's dentist or doctor may suggest a psychological > assessment. This can help determine the cause of the stress and an > appropriate course of treatment. > > How Long Does Bruxism Last? > Childhood bruxism is usually outgrown by adolescence. Most kids stop > grinding when they lose their baby teeth because permanent teeth are > much more sensitive to pain. However, a few children do continue to > grind into adolescence. And if the bruxism is caused by stress, it > will continue until the stress is relieved. > > Preventing Bruxism > Because some bruxism is a child's natural reaction to growth and > development, most cases can't be prevented. Stress-induced bruxism > can be avoided, however, by talking with kids regularly about their > feelings and helping them deal with stress. > > Reviewed by: A. Goss, RDH, BS, and Charlie J. Inga, DDS > Date reviewed: September 2007 > Originally reviewed by: A. Goss, RDH, BS, and Garrett B. Lyons, > DDS > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~(a bite guard and occlusal splints is the same thing) > > Occlusal splints for treating sleep bruxism (tooth grinding) > By: Macedo CR, Silva AB, Machado MA, Saconato H, Prado GF > The Cochrane Collaboration > October 17, 2007 > > Abstract > Background > Sleep bruxism is an oral activity characterised by teeth grinding or > clenching during sleep. Several treatments for sleep bruxism have > been proposed such as pharmacological, psychological, and dental. > > Objectives > To evaluate the effectiveness of occlusal splints for the treatment > of sleep bruxism with alternative interventions, placebo or no > treatment. > > Search strategy > We searched the Cochrane Oral Health Group's Trials Register (to May > 2007); the Cochrane Central Register of Controlled Trials (CENTRAL) > (The Cochrane Library 2007, Issue 1); MEDLINE (1966 to May 2007); > EMBASE (1980 to May 2007); LILACS (1982 to May 2007); Biblioteca > Brasileira de Odontologia (1982 to May 2007); Dissertation, Theses > and Abstracts (1981 to May 2007); and handsearched abstracts of > particular importance to this review. Additional reports were > identified from the reference lists of retrieved reports and from > article reviews about treating sleep bruxism. There were no language > restrictions. > > Selection criteria > We selected randomised or quasi-randomised controlled trials (RCTs), > in which splint therapy was compared concurrently to no treatment, > other occlusal appliances, or any other intervention in participants > with sleep bruxism. > > Data collection and analysis > Data extraction was carried out independently and in duplicate. > Validity assessment of the included trials was carried out at the > same time as data extraction. Discrepancies were discussed and a > third review author consulted. The author of the primary study was > contacted when necessary. > > Main results > Thirty-two potentially relevant RCTs were identified. Twenty-four > trials were excluded. Five RCTs were included. Occlusal splint was > compared to: palatal splint, mandibular advancement device, > transcutaneous electric nerve stimulation, and no treatment. There > was just one common outcome (arousal index) which was combined in a > meta-analysis. No statistically significant differences between the > occlusal splint and control groups were found in the meta-analyses. > > Authors' conclusions > There is not sufficient evidence to state that the occlusal splint is > effective for treating sleep bruxism. Indication of its use is > questionable with regard to sleep outcomes, but it may be that there > is some benefit with regard to tooth wear. This systematic review > suggests the need for further investigation in more controlled RCTs > that pay attention to method of allocation, outcome assessment, large > sample size, and sufficient duration of follow up. The study design > must be parallel, in order to eliminate the bias provided by studies > of cross-over type. A standardisation of the outcomes of the > treatment of sleep bruxism should be established in the RCTs. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~archives > > > In the archives many times tooth grinding is reported as one of > those " bad signs " once the child starts the fish oils that is really > a good sign. Again for some reason this comes up lots when parents > start the child on the oils so much of the archives point to that. > > > Re: 3 yr old grinding teeth > > > Could be (again) ...normal -read on/archive: > > Re: Pro-EFA (teeth grinding) > > > Kristie this too has come up many times before so have some answers > below in archives. For a better idea however can you please let us > know why 2 a day vs one a day of ProEFA for a 2 year old? For a 4 > year old or older I would understand even starting at 2 a day -but > not at 2. Not that anything you see is " bad " but you may just want > to cut down on his dosage a bit to one a day. Or... > > Did he already hit the first plateau (around 3-6 month time range) > so you raised him to 2? If so how long ago did you raise him? Have you > always noticed the teeth grinding etc. since any ProEFA? How long > has he been taking ProEFA? Why don't you give both together in the > AM? > > Yes I was the child that always asked why! Anyway -below are some > archives to help show you that 'you are far from alone'! > > From: " kiddietalk " <kiddietalk@...> > Date: Sun May 29, 2005 4:33 pm > Subject: Re: reading all the posts of nail biting - what about teeth > grinding > > It's normal to worry -but most of us don't have to worry about tooth > grinding in young children or do anything to try to stop it. > Besides -we again can't always assume there are negative reasons > when it may be a normal stage -or even a reason for it in regards to > later speech. > > Just a quick note before the archive. We went out on the boat to > the beach today with another family with kids in our neighborhood > who we get together with all the time. Before we did that however > we all went out to breakfast -and Tanner asked if he can drive back > with Mark (neighbor) because he has a convertible -everyone else > went in our car. At the beach today Mark asked me and Glenn " You > know I never noticed before but when Tanner was talking to me today > in the car (he then paused like he didn't know how to ask > this)....does he have some type of speech problem? " We had never > said anything -and he only noticed it today! We explained for the > first time what apraxia was. He then said he had no idea because > that when Tanner talked to him before it was never a long > conversation like today. Guess he thought we'd take that in a bad > way that he asked -but I'm thrilled he didn't notice till today! > Wow! (Now of course however I want him to be able to talk for long > periods of time and for people not to notice then either!) > > And back on topic -yes Tanner was a tooth grinder -but as it says > below -without doing anything, changing anything -it just stopped. > (Just as my dentist friend said it would when I was all worried > about it!) > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~start of archive > > From: " kiddietalk " <kiddietalk@...> > Date: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:44 am > Subject: Re: [ ]bruxism (tooth grinding) > Hi Giseli! > > Apraxia and tooth grinding? There is no direct connection that > anyone knows for sure -just theories. It has come up as a subject > in the past, but not much. > > I know you had Igor on EFAs (two ProEFA) first for four days -then > for one -and each time reported some bad behavior and stopped. > Tooth grinding may be another exploration side effect or it could > just be developmental. I have an archive on this below. BTW -is > Igor now on any EFAs? Steady? If so what formula and any changes? > Did you try just one -or 1/2 capsule/ProEFA Jr.? > > ~~~~~~~~~~~start if archive > > It's apparent your child has some oral motor issues and the tooth > grinding, which is not unusual in children as you will read below - > may instead/in addition be an exploratory stage due to improvements > from > therapies (both traditional as well as complimentary ones like > EFAs) As always -what we view as a " bad " thing may in fact be a > sign of good things to come! > > " Believe it or not -this one is in the archives. This was considered > > yet another 'bad sign' that is really a good sign. Some children > > never fully > > go through the teething stage which is a healthy part of oral > > exploration > > important for > > developing speech. > http://www.feeding.com/images/Oral%20Exploration.PDF > > May want to keep us posted in the weeks ahead! > > Here is an archive on this that may help: > > From: " kiddietalk " <kiddietalk@...> > Date: Sat Dec 20, 2003 9:48 pm > Subject: Re: New here and feeling guilty > > Hi Kim! > > The aspect of tooth grinding in your message caught my eye -and I > have two archives on that below. Sometimes what we view as a bad > thing could really be a good thing as we talked about with late > teething. > > (archive) > " I don't know exactly why your child is moving her mouth in unusual > positions, or groping -however to me any changes outside the norm > when you start your child on the EFAs is a great sign that something > is clicking and that the surge may be soon approaching. (Please let > us know when you see the surge in speech in the next week or two!) > > Since I receive lots of calls about this -I wanted to list the most > common changes in an apraxic or other speech disordered child on > EFAs from what I've read and heard and seen. > > 1. Increase in babbling or attempts at sounds. > 2. Increase in imitation. > Changes also can be looked for in (what you see as positive or > negative) > sleep > attention > appetite > focus > behavior > stools > > Next will come a breakthrough of something you were probably working > on for a bit -so you will be excited but will think " Well -I don't > want to get my hopes up we were working on that for awhile now - > maybe it's just a coincidence " However after the second or third > surge in a short period of time -and then another - you are pretty > sure things are different and it's at this point the professionals > and the rest of the family and your friends are noticing it too - > maybe about two to three weeks now. > > OK -the next stage is pure elation and hope -you see the light and > no longer feel as desperate and want to share this new information > with everyone and anyone. As the months go by and your child > continues to progress at a much more rapid rate -you may even start > to doubt the original diagnosis -especially if you started EFA > supplementation at two -and perhaps the SLP that diagnosed the > apraxia who also was at first excited is starting to second guess if > the original diagnosis was correct as well. Unless you have to stop > the ProEFA (or other Essential Fatty Acid) and literally have the > chance to see the regression of acquired speech and language skills, > attempts, and changes in behavior like we did with Tanner (and/or > have a chance to again witness the second surge when your child is > put back on the EFAs) -that doubt will probably remain somewhere in > your mind and in others around your child. So the " I told you that > he would start talking when he was ready " comments should be > expected of course. > > ...The child on ProEFA or some other EFA formula's like it no longer > fits the criteria of the classic definition of apraxia -and yet > doesn't fit the classic perception of what a late talker is either... > > ...Here is what many of us have found to be the best plan > anecdotally...start with the basic formula, one ProEFA a day, we > saw surges in a few days to three weeks which continued for months - > we then reached a plateau after around 6 months. At this point we > raised the dosage to two capsules of ProEFA a day and once again had > those surges which lasted again for months. When we reached the > next plateau after around a year, instead of going to three a day - > we squeezed 1/2 to one capsule of ProEPA into the 2 capsules of > ProEFA and for almost all of us that try -that created another surge. > > Over time -you may raise the dosage up higher -and you may slightly > change the formula to raise the Omega 3 over the Omega 6 ratio -but > you need to know your own child, keep track of his progress through > both your own observations and that of the professionals -with the > advice of your child's doctor -to know what is best for him/her. " > > Let us know if you start having surges in the next few days! I > wouldn't be surprised. There are a few messages in the archives about > tooth grinding -here are just two: > > From: " cailg547 " <aigjr@...> > Date: Fri Sep 13, 2002 11:37 am > Subject: brain & efa's! > > My daughter had her second brain MRI yesterday. The first was when > she was 2 and 1/2 now she is 4 and 1/2. The first one showed that her > myelin needed to grow some more. We started supplementing with efa's > right after that first MRI. First efalex until she was 3 and then > proefa. We saw results with speech on the proefa and with the efelex > she stopped teeth grinding. > > The MRI yesterday showed that her myelin is not only completely > developed but extremely so. > > The myelin is the outer coating of brain cells and without it the > brain can't make connections within itself so that you can function. > People who have MS lose myelin. > > This development was very important for my daughter because it was > also discovered what I had suspected, that she has some tiny spots is > considered brain damage probably caused by lack of oxygen while she > was in the birth canal too long (over 4 hours). > > It was explained to me that without the myelin the brain would not be > able to find alternative routes to learn to do what that spot would > have been responsible for. > > The pediatric radiologist said that they believe that most people > stop producing myelin at age 3-3 1/2 but with efa's myelin can keep > being produced! > > Carolyn aigjr@... > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > From: " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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