Guest guest Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Actually, I am an attorney and I did special ed law many years ago (before I knew I would need it for my own family! funny thing about fate!) It's been a long time since I've dealt with it, but the eavesdrop laws in IL are pretty specific that both parties have to actually agree to being recorded. Go figure. I'm not sure what the laws are about things like " nanny-cams " but I've thought of that - put one in his backpack somehow or something like that. I'd need to look at that a bit more before trying something like that though! The no-restraint letter should suffice for preventing them from using the restraints and holds, but the Dist can turn around and say that Josh is too disruptive and pull him out of the class he's in - depending on what they would do as an alternative, it might not be a bad thing in the long run. This is the same Dist that, when we moved here, put Josh in a classroom for severely autistic children and Josh isn't even on the spectrum. It's supposed to be one of the best districts in IL but it's not impressing me in the least. Thanks for the suggestions! Sherry and Josh ________________________________ From: waddelltc <theresa@...> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 8:08:27 AM Subject: [ ] Re: damage to school relationship-long Have you talked with a special education attorney? I'd consult and know what your/Josh's rights are. One of my biggest fears is having things happen in school and my sons not being able to tell us about it. The attorney can tell you whether it's legal for your son to wear a wire (I'd even go for a pen-camera, but I'm paranoid, and I know some FBI agents!) Theresa Mom to three boys, two with PDD-Nos, Apraxia, ADHD, Dysphagia, sensory integration and motor planning issues > > Hi All - > > Weird goings-on here in Josh-land. For those who have been online, you probably remember that I've talked about Josh and his " fight " response (as opposed to the " flight " response) to sensory stuff/overwhelming sensory input/etc. Josh has always done that and we/I have always been able to talk to teachers about it and come up with strategies to minimize it or, in most school years, eliminate it. It takes time, but it works. This year, there was something that happened during the Fall and I have yet to find out exactly what it was. Josh had an extraordinarily difficult time afterward - he was even having nightmares and getting up in the morning saying " tummy hurt, I stay home, Mommy stay home. " <<snip>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 A good fba should be taylored to the child's needs and not a cut and dry program predesigned by teh county. As you know , it should be updated periodically, as well. Sherry, we have found that if you take the child to a clinic alot of times private insurance in GA will pay for a bcba -- I don't know about IL. However, not so in the home environment. I would really encourage you to get your own bcba and pay them to write a fba, attend and iep meeting ; I have not found schools to ever consider anything that came out of my mouth, unless I had a specialist recommend something. Even wth specialists some persons are just inflexible and incorrigable. We actually had a pt at the dist that refused to set a goal to have our child stand up from the middle of the florr (she has cp). the pt said she could not do it. I was adamant that she was already doing it at home and that this was a safety issue as there could be a fire and she culd get trampled if an adult were not within arms length. I had to gget the private pt to docuemnt that she could and was doing this as an emerging skill and the opthamologist document that there was nothing with her vision that would prohibit her from doing the goal. the only reason the county caved, imho, is that our pt had a phd and the county's had a ms. she met the goal in the first 8 weeks of school. in fact she met 2 others the pt said she would never ever be able to do by the end of the first semester and we are now working on new goals for her. some teachers/therapists are just stuck in a rut and are not open to learning about the child. I try to never work with those persons. If they think they can sum up my kid in a half hour, they are wrong as she is very, very complicated and challenges everyone who works with her Good luck. sl sl The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential, proprietary, and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from all computers. Sharon Lang From: sherry silvern <srsilvern@...> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: damage to school relationship-Theresa Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 6:20 PM Actually, I am an attorney and I did special ed law many years ago (before I knew I would need it for my own family! funny thing about fate!) It's been a long time since I've dealt with it, but the eavesdrop laws in IL are pretty specific that both parties have to actually agree to being recorded. Go figure. I'm not sure what the laws are about things like " nanny-cams " but I've thought of that - put one in his backpack somehow or something like that. I'd need to look at that a bit more before trying something like that though! The no-restraint letter should suffice for preventing them from using the restraints and holds, but the Dist can turn around and say that Josh is too disruptive and pull him out of the class he's in - depending on what they would do as an alternative, it might not be a bad thing in the long run. This is the same Dist that, when we moved here, put Josh in a classroom for severely autistic children and Josh isn't even on the spectrum. It's supposed to be one of the best districts in IL but it's not impressing me in the least. Thanks for the suggestions! Sherry and Josh ____________ _________ _________ __ From: waddelltc <theresawaddellcpa (DOT) com> @groups. com Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 8:08:27 AM Subject: [childrensapraxiane t] Re: damage to school relationship- long Have you talked with a special education attorney? I'd consult and know what your/Josh's rights are. One of my biggest fears is having things happen in school and my sons not being able to tell us about it. The attorney can tell you whether it's legal for your son to wear a wire (I'd even go for a pen-camera, but I'm paranoid, and I know some FBI agents!) Theresa Mom to three boys, two with PDD-Nos, Apraxia, ADHD, Dysphagia, sensory integration and motor planning issues > > Hi All - > > Weird goings-on here in Josh-land. For those who have been online, you probably remember that I've talked about Josh and his " fight " response (as opposed to the " flight " response) to sensory stuff/overwhelming sensory input/etc. Josh has always done that and we/I have always been able to talk to teachers about it and come up with strategies to minimize it or, in most school years, eliminate it. It takes time, but it works. This year, there was something that happened during the Fall and I have yet to find out exactly what it was. Josh had an extraordinarily difficult time afterward - he was even having nightmares and getting up in the morning saying " tummy hurt, I stay home, Mommy stay home. " <<snip>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 A good fba should be taylored to the child's needs and not a cut and dry program predesigned by teh county. As you know , it should be updated periodically, as well. Sherry, we have found that if you take the child to a clinic alot of times private insurance in GA will pay for a bcba -- I don't know about IL. However, not so in the home environment. I would really encourage you to get your own bcba and pay them to write a fba, attend and iep meeting ; I have not found schools to ever consider anything that came out of my mouth, unless I had a specialist recommend something. Even wth specialists some persons are just inflexible and incorrigable. We actually had a pt at the dist that refused to set a goal to have our child stand up from the middle of the florr (she has cp). the pt said she could not do it. I was adamant that she was already doing it at home and that this was a safety issue as there could be a fire and she culd get trampled if an adult were not within arms length. I had to gget the private pt to docuemnt that she could and was doing this as an emerging skill and the opthamologist document that there was nothing with her vision that would prohibit her from doing the goal. the only reason the county caved, imho, is that our pt had a phd and the county's had a ms. she met the goal in the first 8 weeks of school. in fact she met 2 others the pt said she would never ever be able to do by the end of the first semester and we are now working on new goals for her. some teachers/therapists are just stuck in a rut and are not open to learning about the child. I try to never work with those persons. If they think they can sum up my kid in a half hour, they are wrong as she is very, very complicated and challenges everyone who works with her Good luck. sl sl The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential, proprietary, and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from all computers. Sharon Lang From: sherry silvern <srsilvern@...> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: damage to school relationship-Theresa Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 6:20 PM Actually, I am an attorney and I did special ed law many years ago (before I knew I would need it for my own family! funny thing about fate!) It's been a long time since I've dealt with it, but the eavesdrop laws in IL are pretty specific that both parties have to actually agree to being recorded. Go figure. I'm not sure what the laws are about things like " nanny-cams " but I've thought of that - put one in his backpack somehow or something like that. I'd need to look at that a bit more before trying something like that though! The no-restraint letter should suffice for preventing them from using the restraints and holds, but the Dist can turn around and say that Josh is too disruptive and pull him out of the class he's in - depending on what they would do as an alternative, it might not be a bad thing in the long run. This is the same Dist that, when we moved here, put Josh in a classroom for severely autistic children and Josh isn't even on the spectrum. It's supposed to be one of the best districts in IL but it's not impressing me in the least. Thanks for the suggestions! Sherry and Josh ____________ _________ _________ __ From: waddelltc <theresawaddellcpa (DOT) com> @groups. com Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 8:08:27 AM Subject: [childrensapraxiane t] Re: damage to school relationship- long Have you talked with a special education attorney? I'd consult and know what your/Josh's rights are. One of my biggest fears is having things happen in school and my sons not being able to tell us about it. The attorney can tell you whether it's legal for your son to wear a wire (I'd even go for a pen-camera, but I'm paranoid, and I know some FBI agents!) Theresa Mom to three boys, two with PDD-Nos, Apraxia, ADHD, Dysphagia, sensory integration and motor planning issues > > Hi All - > > Weird goings-on here in Josh-land. For those who have been online, you probably remember that I've talked about Josh and his " fight " response (as opposed to the " flight " response) to sensory stuff/overwhelming sensory input/etc. Josh has always done that and we/I have always been able to talk to teachers about it and come up with strategies to minimize it or, in most school years, eliminate it. It takes time, but it works. This year, there was something that happened during the Fall and I have yet to find out exactly what it was. Josh had an extraordinarily difficult time afterward - he was even having nightmares and getting up in the morning saying " tummy hurt, I stay home, Mommy stay home. " <<snip>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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