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Actually, I am an attorney and I did special ed law many years ago (before I

knew I would need it for my own family! funny thing about fate!)  It's been a

long time since I've dealt with it, but the eavesdrop laws in IL are pretty

specific that both parties have to actually agree to being recorded.  Go

figure.  I'm not sure what the laws are about things like " nanny-cams " but I've

thought of that - put one in his backpack somehow or something like that.  I'd

need to look at that a bit more before trying something like that though!  The

no-restraint letter should suffice for preventing them from using the restraints

and holds, but the Dist can turn around and say that Josh is too disruptive and

pull him out of the class he's in - depending on what they would do as an

alternative, it might not be a bad thing in the long run.  This is the same Dist

that, when we moved here, put Josh in a classroom for severely autistic children

and Josh isn't even on

the spectrum.  It's supposed to be one of the best districts in IL but it's not

impressing me in the least.

Thanks for the suggestions!

Sherry and Josh

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From: waddelltc <theresa@...>

Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 8:08:27 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: damage to school relationship-long

Have you talked with a special education attorney? I'd consult and know

what your/Josh's rights are. One of my biggest fears is having things

happen in school and my sons not being able to tell us about it.

The attorney can tell you whether it's legal for your son to wear a

wire (I'd even go for a pen-camera, but I'm paranoid, and I know some

FBI agents!)

Theresa

Mom to three boys, two with PDD-Nos, Apraxia, ADHD, Dysphagia, sensory

integration and motor planning issues

>

> Hi All -

>

> Weird goings-on here in Josh-land.  For those who have been online,

you probably remember that I've talked about Josh and his " fight "

response (as opposed to the " flight " response) to sensory

stuff/overwhelming sensory input/etc.  Josh has always done that and

we/I have always been able to talk to teachers about it and come up

with strategies to minimize it or, in most school years, eliminate it. 

It takes time, but it works.  This year, there was something that

happened during the Fall and I have yet to find out exactly what it

was.  Josh had an extraordinarily difficult time afterward - he was

even having nightmares and getting up in the morning saying " tummy

hurt, I stay home, Mommy stay home. "  

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A good fba should be taylored to the child's needs and not a cut and dry program

predesigned by teh county.  As you know , it should be updated periodically, as

well.

 

Sherry, we have found that if you take the child to a clinic alot of times

private insurance in GA will pay for a bcba  -- I don't know about IL.  

However, not so in the home environment.   I would really encourage you to get

your own bcba and pay them to write a fba, attend and iep meeting ; I have not

found schools to ever consider anything that came out of my mouth, unless I had

a specialist recommend something.  Even wth specialists some persons are just

inflexible and incorrigable.

 

We actually had a pt at the dist that refused to set a goal to have our child

stand up from the middle of the florr (she has cp).   the pt said she could not

do it.  I was adamant that she was already doing it at home and that this was a

safety issue as there could be a fire and she culd get trampled if an adult were

not within arms length.   I had to gget the private pt to docuemnt that she

could and was doing this as an emerging skill and the opthamologist document

that there was nothing with her vision that would prohibit her from doing the

goal.  the only reason the county caved, imho, is that our pt had a phd and the

county's had a ms.

 

she met the goal in the first 8 weeks of school.  in fact she met 2 others the

pt said she would never ever be able to do by the end of the first semester and

we are now working on new goals for her.  some teachers/therapists are just

stuck in a rut and are not open to learning about the child.  I try to never

work with those persons.  If they think they can sum up my kid in a half hour,

they are wrong as she is very, very complicated and challenges everyone who

works with her

 

 

Good luck. 

sl 

 

sl

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From: sherry silvern <srsilvern@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: damage to school relationship-Theresa

Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 6:20 PM

Actually, I am an attorney and I did special ed law many years ago (before I

knew I would need it for my own family! funny thing about fate!)  It's been a

long time since I've dealt with it, but the eavesdrop laws in IL are pretty

specific that both parties have to actually agree to being recorded.  Go

figure.  I'm not sure what the laws are about things like " nanny-cams " but I've

thought of that - put one in his backpack somehow or something like that.  I'd

need to look at that a bit more before trying something like that though!  The

no-restraint letter should suffice for preventing them from using the restraints

and holds, but the Dist can turn around and say that Josh is too disruptive and

pull him out of the class he's in - depending on what they would do as an

alternative, it might not be a bad thing in the long run.  This is the same Dist

that, when we moved here, put Josh in a classroom for severely autistic children

and Josh isn't even on

the spectrum.  It's supposed to be one of the best districts in IL but it's not

impressing me in the least.

Thanks for the suggestions!

Sherry and Josh

____________ _________ _________ __

From: waddelltc <theresawaddellcpa (DOT) com>

@groups. com

Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 8:08:27 AM

Subject: [childrensapraxiane t] Re: damage to school relationship- long

Have you talked with a special education attorney? I'd consult and know

what your/Josh's rights are. One of my biggest fears is having things

happen in school and my sons not being able to tell us about it.

The attorney can tell you whether it's legal for your son to wear a

wire (I'd even go for a pen-camera, but I'm paranoid, and I know some

FBI agents!)

Theresa

Mom to three boys, two with PDD-Nos, Apraxia, ADHD, Dysphagia, sensory

integration and motor planning issues

>

> Hi All -

>

> Weird goings-on here in Josh-land.  For those who have been online,

you probably remember that I've talked about Josh and his " fight "

response (as opposed to the " flight " response) to sensory

stuff/overwhelming sensory input/etc.  Josh has always done that and

we/I have always been able to talk to teachers about it and come up

with strategies to minimize it or, in most school years, eliminate it. 

It takes time, but it works.  This year, there was something that

happened during the Fall and I have yet to find out exactly what it

was.  Josh had an extraordinarily difficult time afterward - he was

even having nightmares and getting up in the morning saying " tummy

hurt, I stay home, Mommy stay home. "  

<<snip>>

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A good fba should be taylored to the child's needs and not a cut and dry program

predesigned by teh county.  As you know , it should be updated periodically, as

well.

 

Sherry, we have found that if you take the child to a clinic alot of times

private insurance in GA will pay for a bcba  -- I don't know about IL.  

However, not so in the home environment.   I would really encourage you to get

your own bcba and pay them to write a fba, attend and iep meeting ; I have not

found schools to ever consider anything that came out of my mouth, unless I had

a specialist recommend something.  Even wth specialists some persons are just

inflexible and incorrigable.

 

We actually had a pt at the dist that refused to set a goal to have our child

stand up from the middle of the florr (she has cp).   the pt said she could not

do it.  I was adamant that she was already doing it at home and that this was a

safety issue as there could be a fire and she culd get trampled if an adult were

not within arms length.   I had to gget the private pt to docuemnt that she

could and was doing this as an emerging skill and the opthamologist document

that there was nothing with her vision that would prohibit her from doing the

goal.  the only reason the county caved, imho, is that our pt had a phd and the

county's had a ms.

 

she met the goal in the first 8 weeks of school.  in fact she met 2 others the

pt said she would never ever be able to do by the end of the first semester and

we are now working on new goals for her.  some teachers/therapists are just

stuck in a rut and are not open to learning about the child.  I try to never

work with those persons.  If they think they can sum up my kid in a half hour,

they are wrong as she is very, very complicated and challenges everyone who

works with her

 

 

Good luck. 

sl 

 

sl

The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which

it is addressed and may contain confidential, proprietary, and/or privileged

material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking

of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other

than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this in error, please

contact the sender and delete the material from all computers.

Sharon Lang

From: sherry silvern <srsilvern@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: damage to school relationship-Theresa

Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 6:20 PM

Actually, I am an attorney and I did special ed law many years ago (before I

knew I would need it for my own family! funny thing about fate!)  It's been a

long time since I've dealt with it, but the eavesdrop laws in IL are pretty

specific that both parties have to actually agree to being recorded.  Go

figure.  I'm not sure what the laws are about things like " nanny-cams " but I've

thought of that - put one in his backpack somehow or something like that.  I'd

need to look at that a bit more before trying something like that though!  The

no-restraint letter should suffice for preventing them from using the restraints

and holds, but the Dist can turn around and say that Josh is too disruptive and

pull him out of the class he's in - depending on what they would do as an

alternative, it might not be a bad thing in the long run.  This is the same Dist

that, when we moved here, put Josh in a classroom for severely autistic children

and Josh isn't even on

the spectrum.  It's supposed to be one of the best districts in IL but it's not

impressing me in the least.

Thanks for the suggestions!

Sherry and Josh

____________ _________ _________ __

From: waddelltc <theresawaddellcpa (DOT) com>

@groups. com

Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 8:08:27 AM

Subject: [childrensapraxiane t] Re: damage to school relationship- long

Have you talked with a special education attorney? I'd consult and know

what your/Josh's rights are. One of my biggest fears is having things

happen in school and my sons not being able to tell us about it.

The attorney can tell you whether it's legal for your son to wear a

wire (I'd even go for a pen-camera, but I'm paranoid, and I know some

FBI agents!)

Theresa

Mom to three boys, two with PDD-Nos, Apraxia, ADHD, Dysphagia, sensory

integration and motor planning issues

>

> Hi All -

>

> Weird goings-on here in Josh-land.  For those who have been online,

you probably remember that I've talked about Josh and his " fight "

response (as opposed to the " flight " response) to sensory

stuff/overwhelming sensory input/etc.  Josh has always done that and

we/I have always been able to talk to teachers about it and come up

with strategies to minimize it or, in most school years, eliminate it. 

It takes time, but it works.  This year, there was something that

happened during the Fall and I have yet to find out exactly what it

was.  Josh had an extraordinarily difficult time afterward - he was

even having nightmares and getting up in the morning saying " tummy

hurt, I stay home, Mommy stay home. "  

<<snip>>

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