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Have you ever heard of Silver Shield Gel. I have used it with great

success for treating fungus. It's natural so might be a better

consideration than the Nystatin

Jane

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> Can anyone give me some feedback on Valtrex in addition to taking

> Nystatin that they may have done with their child? Jack is my apraxic 3

> 1/2 year old and has been under the care of his DAN! for a year now and

> after a year of detox and much success with speech, we ran many blood

> tests which indicated a slightly high herpes-6. I am dosing at 1/2

> tablet at 250 mg and seeing some good results but his bottom is very

> red so therefore I hesitate giving the full 500mg dose. I have Nystatin

> liquid and cream for the yeast die off. Hoping and praying this works!

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Do you have herpes? How would your 3 year old, Jack, have herpes?

I know there are some going adult medication route, others into the

whole yeast theory.... I stuck with methods that were benign and so

did most of this group over the past decade -and most of us have

children that were mainstreamed by kindergarten (as was posted

recently) I know there are medical doctors behind this what I call

the new make the child the guinea pig autism/medication treatment -but

please be aware that if these medications were not studied on 3 year

old children -or even children that are much older than Jack... then

guess who's going to tell the world the long term side effects if any

of these medications in pediatrics ten and twenty years down the road...your

three

year old- Jack.

" Valtrex has not been studied in children who have not reached puberty. "

http://www.drugs.com/pro/valtrex.html

And from the same website

# if you are breastfeeding. Valtrex may pass into your milk and it may

harm your baby. Talk with your healthcare provider about the best way

to feed your baby if you are taking Valtrex.

Valtrex can cause " speech problems " but if Jack already has speech

problems do you think he can tell you if he starts having any of these

many other issues?

" What are the possible side effects of Valtrex?

Kidney failure and nervous system problems are not common, but can be

serious in some patients taking Valtrex. Nervous system

problems include aggressive behavior, unsteady movement, shaky

movements, confusion, speech problems, hallucinations (seeing or

hearing things that are really not there), seizures, and coma. Kidney

failure and nervous system problems have happened in patients who

already have kidney disease and in elderly patients whose kidneys do

not work well due to age. Always tell your healthcare provider if you

have kidney problems before taking Valtrex. Call your doctor right

away if you get a nervous system problem while you are taking Valtrex.

Common side effects of Valtrex include headache, nausea, stomach pain,

vomiting, and dizziness. Side effects in HIV-infected adults include

headache, tiredness, and rash. These side effects are usually mild and

usually do not cause patients to stop taking Valtrex.

Other less common side effects include painful periods in women, joint

pain, depression, low blood cell counts, and changes in tests that

measure how well the liver and kidneys work.

Talk to your healthcare provider if you develop any side effects that

concern you.

These are not all the side effects of Valtrex. For more information

ask your healthcare provider or pharmacist. "

http://www.drugs.com/pro/valtrex.html

And as far as the Nystatin -some on that below;

Nystatin

" Children may absorb proportionally larger amounts of topical

corticosteroids and thus be more susceptible to systemic toxicity

Pediatric Use

In clinical studies of a limited number of pediatric patients ranging

in age from two months through 12 years, Nystatin and Triamcinolone

Acetonide Cream cleared or significantly ameliorated the disease state

in most patients.

Pediatric patients may demonstrate greater susceptibility to topical

corticosteroid-induced hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal (HPA) axis

suppression and Cushing's syndrome than mature patients because of a

larger skin surface area to body weight ratio.

HPA axis suppression, Cushing's syndrome, and intracranial

hypertension have been reported in children receiving topical

corticosteroids. Manifestations of adrenal suppression in children

include linear growth retardation, delayed weight gain, low plasma

cortisol levels, and absence of response to ACTH stimulation.

Manifestations of intracranial hypertension include bulging

fontanelles, headaches, and bilateral papilledema.

Administration of topical corticosteroids to children should be

limited to the least amount compatible with an effective therapeutic

regimen. Chronic corticosteroid therapy may interfere with the growth

and development of children. "

http://www.drugs.com/pro/nystatin-and-triamcinolone.html#AB4217F6-6D0D-4FDE-BE19\

-C8F12ADFD029

Does herpes have side effects as bad as the medications

you have Jack, your 3 year old, on to treat his herpes?

Just curious...What is Jack's diagnosis? What type of therapy is he in? Have

you had second opinions for him on treatment?

Did the right formula and dosage of fish oils not work for your child?

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I was curious what Herpes-6 was since I knew there were variations of

the herpes virus, not all necessarily the dreaded STD herpes.

INteresting information, I had no idea.

http://yourtotalhealth.ivillage.com/what-herpes-simplex-6.html

Answer :

Human herpesvirus (HHV) 6 is one of eight viruses in the herpes

family. These include herpes simplex 1 and 2, which cause oral and

genital herpes; the varicella-zoster virus, which causes chickenpox

and shingles; Epstein-Barr virus, which causes mononucleosis (mono);

cytomegalovirus (CMV), which can cause a variety of syndromes in

healthy individuals and in people with impaired immunity; HHV-8, which

has been linked to Kaposi sarcoma, a skin malignancy common in

patients infected with HIV (the virus that causes AIDS); and HHV-6

(which I will discuss in detail) and a very similar virus, HHV-7.

Almost 95 percent of adults have been infected with HHV-6. About

three-fourths of people are infected by age two. Most of these

infections are either asymptomatic (without symptoms) or cause only

mild, nonspecific illness.

One of the most recognized syndromes associated with HHV-6 is roseola,

also known as exanthem subitum. In this infection, the infant or young

child has a few days of high fever, irritability and other symptoms,

such as diarrhea and cough. When the fever finally comes down, a rash

develops over much of the body, especially in the groin and the neck.

Most infants recover uneventfully; however, encephalitis, a severe

infection of the brain, is a rare complication of roseola. HHV-6 is

also frequently the cause of a syndrome in infants and young children

that is even more common than roseola, high fever (without a rash),

often resulting in seizures (convulsions).

HHV-6 can also cause encephalitis, leading to coma and brain damage,

even in the absence of any other more typical findings of infection,

including fever. Studies show that this virus frequently can be found

in the spinal fluid of patients with roseola, febrile seizures or

encephalitis, including individuals who have no signs or symptoms of

brain infection. Often, HHV-6 can be detected in the spinal fluid

years after the initial infection, which has caused speculation that a

number of neurologic disorders may be due to HHV-6, including many

cases of encephalitis and multiple sclerosis.

However, it is very difficult to definitively prove the relationship

of HHV-6 to encephalitis in an individual patient, because many people

have detectable levels of HHV-6 in their spinal fluid for years

without developing encephalitis. While I cannot, of course, discount

the possibility that your boyfriend's son had HHV-6 encephalitis, I am

not entirely convinced that he did. Of note, herpes simplex virus 1 is

a far more common cause of serious encephalitis, and it frequently

leaves a patient with severe neurologic problems, even with treatment.

Regardless, you are at virtually no risk of developing encephalitis

from contact with your boyfriend. You are very likely immune to HHV-6

already. Even if you were not already immune and you did, by chance,

acquire the infection from your boyfriend (HHV-6 is spread through the

saliva and respiratory secretions), you would most likely have a mild

or even asymptomatic infection. Encephalitis is a very rare

complication of HHV-6 infection.

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> > Can anyone give me some feedback on Valtrex in addition to taking

> > Nystatin that they may have done with their child? Jack is my

apraxic 3

> > 1/2 year old and has been under the care of his DAN! for a year

now and

> > after a year of detox and much success with speech, we ran many blood

> > tests which indicated a slightly high herpes-6. I am dosing at 1/2

> > tablet at 250 mg and seeing some good results but his bottom is very

> > red so therefore I hesitate giving the full 500mg dose. I have

Nystatin

> > liquid and cream for the yeast die off. Hoping and praying this works!

> >

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I did hear that there is an amazing and very active group that discusses

valtrex

treatments for our kids. You may want to search it...

Good luck with it all...my DS is currently on Nystatin for slightly elevated

yeast.

Kim

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> Can anyone give me some feedback on Valtrex in addition to taking

> Nystatin that they may have done with their child? Jack is my apraxic 3

> 1/2 year old and has been under the care of his DAN! for a year now and

> after a year of detox and much success with speech, we ran many blood

> tests which indicated a slightly high herpes-6. I am dosing at 1/2

> tablet at 250 mg and seeing some good results but his bottom is very

> red so therefore I hesitate giving the full 500mg dose. I have Nystatin

> liquid and cream for the yeast die off. Hoping and praying this works!

>

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Wow so they could really get away with putting 95% of the population

on Valtrex?!! Good thing there's only a rare percentage that go this

testing route for our preschool children (and if you do only be

shocked if your child is in the 5% that tests negative) What I would

do if I was one of you guys who feel the need to spend your time and

money going this route, possibly putting your preschool child at risk

for problems far more severe than the condition you are treating - is

take one of your " normal " kids to one of these doctors and tell them

that your child was diagnosed with autism and let them test your

normal child. Most likely your normal child is in the 95% too. (not

for nothing most likely we all are!!)

" Almost 95 percent of adults have been infected with HHV-6. About

three-fourths of people are infected by age two. Most of these

infections are either asymptomatic (without symptoms) or cause only

mild, nonspecific illness. "

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I had my son on Valtrex and Nystatin... But never saw any

improvments... but this does not mean it won't work for your child...

You can go to this group for support and help:

mb12 valtrex/

Love, Gabby. :0)

http://stemcellforautism.blogspot.com/

" I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely neurotypical. Even

God had some Autistic moments, which is why the planets all spin. " ~

Jerry Newport

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> Can anyone give me some feedback on Valtrex in addition to taking

> Nystatin that they may have done with their child? Jack is my apraxic

3

> 1/2 year old and has been under the care of his DAN! for a year now

and

> after a year of detox and much success with speech, we ran many blood

> tests which indicated a slightly high herpes-6. I am dosing at 1/2

> tablet at 250 mg and seeing some good results but his bottom is very

> red so therefore I hesitate giving the full 500mg dose. I have

Nystatin

> liquid and cream for the yeast die off. Hoping and praying this works!

>

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I am not certain about " Herpes-6 " ,or what test tests for this, but a

child who has had the chicken pox will ALWAYS test positive for

Herpes since the chicken pox virus is a herpes virus. A child who has

Epstein Barr Virus (Mononucleosis) will also test positive.

Other than this or blood transfusion, the only other way to get

Herpes is from mother to child, I would presume (even though there

are some precarious ways) BUT having said this, I do not think it is

appropriate (or nice) to put the mother on the spot in front of a

large group of her peers and demand to know if " she " has herpes. A

lot of people unfortunately have this virus, and some people have it

and do not know they have it.

;0)

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> > > Can anyone give me some feedback on Valtrex in addition to

taking

> > > Nystatin that they may have done with their child? Jack is my

> apraxic 3

> > > 1/2 year old and has been under the care of his DAN! for a year

> now and

> > > after a year of detox and much success with speech, we ran many

blood

> > > tests which indicated a slightly high herpes-6. I am dosing at

1/2

> > > tablet at 250 mg and seeing some good results but his bottom is

very

> > > red so therefore I hesitate giving the full 500mg dose. I have

> Nystatin

> > > liquid and cream for the yeast die off. Hoping and praying this

works!

> > >

> >

>

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