Guest guest Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 Listmates - We have discussed and debated this topic in the past. I strongly urge you to do some further research on your own and then take what you find to your practicioner. I confirmed that my globally dyspraxic son has mitochondrial dysfunction back in October. He was nearly 5 years old - he had very scary/serious symtoms back when he was 2 that were blown off. We have to push our trusted Dr.'s to go an extra yard beyond mainstream media. A good Dr. is a detective. Since this IS a common thread - please check it out, at least to rule it out. THIS IS NOT UNIQUE (like you are reading in the newpaper and hearing on the news) THIS IS VERY, VERY, VERY COMMON, and common to apraxia as it is to Autism and all that there in between. The ONLY reason we didn't loose my son to " the other world " called Autism - is because we stopped vaccinating at 6 mos. PURE luck! His mito problem was NOT genetic - it was AQUIRED from (vaccine) toxic exposure. http://www.emedicine.com/PED/topic321.htm Mortality/Morbidity Sudden death: Unfortunately, the first clinical manifestation in asymptomatic individuals with primary carnitine deficiency may be sudden death. This also may occur in patients with secondary carnitine deficiency as a consequence of ventricular tachycardia or fibrillation. Heart failure: Patients with primary carnitine deficiency develop a progressive cardiomyopathy that usually presents at a later age. The cardiac function does not respond to inotropes or diuretics. If the condition is not diagnosed correctly and no carnitine is supplemented, progressive heart failure eventually leads to death. Heart failure caused by dilated cardiomyopathy may be the presenting syndrome in patients with secondary carnitine deficiency caused by defects in beta-oxidation, such as long-chain 3-hydroxyacyl-CoA dehydrogenase (LCHAD) and very long-chain acyl-CoA dehydrogenase (VLCAD) deficiency. Hypoglycemic hypoketotic encephalopathy: Acute encephalopathy accompanied by hypoketotic hypoglycemic episodes usually presents in younger infants with primary carnitine deficiency. Periods of fasting in association with viral illness trigger these acute episodes. Some patients have developmental delay and central nervous system dysfunction associated with these episodes. If no carnitine replacement is given, recurrent episodes of encephalopathy may ensue. .. THIMEROSAL in published studies, PROVOKES mito failure.(study below) Lyn Redwood from SAFEMINDS has provided the CDC ACIP (Vaccine Advisory) panel with this information over and over again. Mitochondrial Mediated Thimerosal-Induced Apoptosis in a Human Neuroblastoma Cell Line (SK-N-SH) L. Humphreya, Marsha P. Coleb, C. Pendergrassc and Kinsley K. Kininghama, Corresponding Author Contact Information, E- mail The Corresponding Author aDepartment of Pharmacology, Joan C. School of Medicine, Marshall University, 1542 Spring Valley Drive, Huntington, WV 25704- 9388, USA bGraduate Center for Toxicology, University of Kentucky, Lexington, KY 40536, USA cAffinity Labeling Technologies, Inc., Lexington, KY 40508, USA Received 6 December 2004; accepted 25 February 2005. Available online 24 May 2005. Abstract Environmental exposure to mercurials continues to be a public health issue due to their deleterious effects on immune, renal and neurological function. Recently the safety of thimerosal, an ethyl mercury-containing preservative used in vaccines, has been questioned due to exposure of infants during immunization. Mercurials have been reported to cause apoptosis in cultured neurons; however, the signaling pathways resulting in cell death have not been well characterized. Therefore, the objective of this study was to identify the mode of cell death in an in vitro model of thimerosal-induced neurotoxicity, and more specifically, to elucidate signaling pathways which might serve as pharmacological targets. Within 2 h of thimerosal exposure (5 µM) to the human neuroblastoma cell line, SK-N- SH, morphological changes, including membrane alterations and cell shrinkage, were observed. Cell viability, assessed by measurement of lactate dehydrogenase (LDH) activity in the medium, as well as the 3- [4,5-dimethylthiazol-2-yl]-2,5-diphenyltetrazolium bromide (MTT) assay, showed a time- and concentration-dependent decrease in cell survival upon thimerosal exposure. In cells treated for 24 h with thimerosal, fluorescence microscopy indicated cells undergoing both apoptosis and oncosis/necrosis. To identify the apoptotic pathway associated with thimerosal-mediated cell death, we first evaluated the mitochondrial cascade, as both inorganic and organic mercurials have been reported to accumulate in the organelle. Cytochrome c was shown to leak from the mitochondria, followed by caspase 9 cleavage within 8 h of treatment. In addition, poly(ADP-ribose) polymerase (PARP) was cleaved to form a 85 kDa fragment following maximal caspase 3 activation at 24 h. Taken together these findings suggest deleterious effects on the cytoarchitecture by thimerosal and initiation of mitochondrial-mediated apoptosis. Keywords: Mercury; Thimerosal; Mitochondria; Neurotoxicity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 This answers my question about carnitine for my friend with the autistic kid who is not currently on dairy. Let's hear it for beef and dairy if you can tolerate it:) > > Listmates - We have discussed and debated this topic in the past. I > strongly urge you to do some further research on your own and then > take what you find to your practicioner. > > I confirmed that my globally dyspraxic son has mitochondrial > dysfunction back in October. He was nearly 5 years old - he had very > scary/serious symtoms back when he was 2 that were blown off. We > have to push our trusted Dr.'s to go an extra yard beyond mainstream > media. A good Dr. is a detective. > > Since this IS a common thread - please check it out, at least to rule > it out. THIS IS NOT UNIQUE (like you are reading in the newpaper and > hearing on the news) THIS IS VERY, VERY, VERY COMMON, and common to > apraxia as it is to Autism and all that there in between. > > The ONLY reason we didn't loose my son to " the other world " called > Autism - is because we stopped vaccinating at 6 mos. PURE luck! His > mito problem was NOT genetic - it was AQUIRED from (vaccine) toxic > exposure. > > > http://www.emedicine.com/PED/topic321.htm > > > Mortality/Morbidity > > Sudden death: Unfortunately, the first clinical manifestation in > asymptomatic individuals with primary carnitine deficiency may be > sudden death. This also may occur in patients with secondary > carnitine deficiency as a consequence of ventricular tachycardia or > fibrillation. > Heart failure: Patients with primary carnitine deficiency develop a > progressive cardiomyopathy that usually presents at a later age. The > cardiac function does not respond to inotropes or diuretics. If the > condition is not diagnosed correctly and no carnitine is > supplemented, progressive heart failure eventually leads to death. > Heart failure caused by dilated cardiomyopathy may be the presenting > syndrome in patients with secondary carnitine deficiency caused by > defects in beta-oxidation, such as long-chain 3-hydroxyacyl-CoA > dehydrogenase (LCHAD) and very long-chain acyl-CoA dehydrogenase > (VLCAD) deficiency. > Hypoglycemic hypoketotic encephalopathy: Acute encephalopathy > accompanied by hypoketotic hypoglycemic episodes usually presents in > younger infants with primary carnitine deficiency. Periods of fasting > in association with viral illness trigger these acute episodes. Some > patients have developmental delay and central nervous system > dysfunction associated with these episodes. If no carnitine > replacement is given, recurrent episodes of encephalopathy may ensue. > . > > > > THIMEROSAL in published studies, PROVOKES mito failure.(study below) > Lyn Redwood from SAFEMINDS has provided the CDC ACIP (Vaccine > Advisory) panel with this information over and over again. > > Mitochondrial Mediated Thimerosal-Induced Apoptosis in a Human > Neuroblastoma Cell Line (SK-N-SH) > > L. Humphreya, Marsha P. Coleb, C. Pendergrassc and > Kinsley K. Kininghama, Corresponding Author Contact Information, E- > mail The Corresponding Author > aDepartment of Pharmacology, Joan C. School of Medicine, > Marshall University, 1542 Spring Valley Drive, Huntington, WV 25704- > 9388, USA > bGraduate Center for Toxicology, University of Kentucky, Lexington, > KY 40536, USA > cAffinity Labeling Technologies, Inc., Lexington, KY 40508, USA > Received 6 December 2004; accepted 25 February 2005. Available online > 24 May 2005. > > Abstract > > Environmental exposure to mercurials continues to be a public health > issue due to their deleterious effects on immune, renal and > neurological function. Recently the safety of thimerosal, an ethyl > mercury-containing preservative used in vaccines, has been questioned > due to exposure of infants during immunization. Mercurials have been > reported to cause apoptosis in cultured neurons; however, the > signaling pathways resulting in cell death have not been well > characterized. Therefore, the objective of this study was to identify > the mode of cell death in an in vitro model of thimerosal-induced > neurotoxicity, and more specifically, to elucidate signaling pathways > which might serve as pharmacological targets. Within 2 h of > thimerosal exposure (5 µM) to the human neuroblastoma cell line, SK- N- > SH, morphological changes, including membrane alterations and cell > shrinkage, were observed. Cell viability, assessed by measurement of > lactate dehydrogenase (LDH) activity in the medium, as well as the 3- > [4,5-dimethylthiazol-2-yl]-2,5-diphenyltetrazolium bromide (MTT) > assay, showed a time- and concentration-dependent decrease in cell > survival upon thimerosal exposure. In cells treated for 24 h with > thimerosal, fluorescence microscopy indicated cells undergoing both > apoptosis and oncosis/necrosis. To identify the apoptotic pathway > associated with thimerosal-mediated cell death, we first evaluated > the mitochondrial cascade, as both inorganic and organic mercurials > have been reported to accumulate in the organelle. Cytochrome c was > shown to leak from the mitochondria, followed by caspase 9 cleavage > within 8 h of treatment. In addition, poly(ADP-ribose) polymerase > (PARP) was cleaved to form a 85 kDa fragment following maximal > caspase 3 activation at 24 h. Taken together these findings suggest > deleterious effects on the cytoarchitecture by thimerosal and > initiation of mitochondrial-mediated apoptosis. > > Keywords: Mercury; Thimerosal; Mitochondria; Neurotoxicity > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 , I believe that Mark has some type of acquired mitochondrea dysfunction and that it too was acquired. Janice [sPAM][ ] carnitine deficiency - mitochondrial disorder- toxins Listmates - We have discussed and debated this topic in the past. I strongly urge you to do some further research on your own and then take what you find to your practicioner. I confirmed that my globally dyspraxic son has mitochondrial dysfunction back in October. He was nearly 5 years old - he had very scary/serious symtoms back when he was 2 that were blown off. We have to push our trusted Dr.'s to go an extra yard beyond mainstream media. A good Dr. is a detective. Since this IS a common thread - please check it out, at least to rule it out. THIS IS NOT UNIQUE (like you are reading in the newpaper and hearing on the news) THIS IS VERY, VERY, VERY COMMON, and common to apraxia as it is to Autism and all that there in between. The ONLY reason we didn't loose my son to " the other world " called Autism - is because we stopped vaccinating at 6 mos. PURE luck! His mito problem was NOT genetic - it was AQUIRED from (vaccine) toxic exposure. http://www.emedicine.com/PED/topic321.htm Mortality/Morbidity Sudden death: Unfortunately, the first clinical manifestation in asymptomatic individuals with primary carnitine deficiency may be sudden death. This also may occur in patients with secondary carnitine deficiency as a consequence of ventricular tachycardia or fibrillation. Heart failure: Patients with primary carnitine deficiency develop a progressive cardiomyopathy that usually presents at a later age. The cardiac function does not respond to inotropes or diuretics. If the condition is not diagnosed correctly and no carnitine is supplemented, progressive heart failure eventually leads to death. Heart failure caused by dilated cardiomyopathy may be the presenting syndrome in patients with secondary carnitine deficiency caused by defects in beta-oxidation, such as long-chain 3-hydroxyacyl-CoA dehydrogenase (LCHAD) and very long-chain acyl-CoA dehydrogenase (VLCAD) deficiency. Hypoglycemic hypoketotic encephalopathy: Acute encephalopathy accompanied by hypoketotic hypoglycemic episodes usually presents in younger infants with primary carnitine deficiency. Periods of fasting in association with viral illness trigger these acute episodes. Some patients have developmental delay and central nervous system dysfunction associated with these episodes. If no carnitine replacement is given, recurrent episodes of encephalopathy may ensue. . THIMEROSAL in published studies, PROVOKES mito failure.(study below) Lyn Redwood from SAFEMINDS has provided the CDC ACIP (Vaccine Advisory) panel with this information over and over again. Mitochondrial Mediated Thimerosal-Induced Apoptosis in a Human Neuroblastoma Cell Line (SK-N-SH) L. Humphreya, Marsha P. Coleb, C. Pendergrassc and Kinsley K. Kininghama, Corresponding Author Contact Information, E- mail The Corresponding Author aDepartment of Pharmacology, Joan C. School of Medicine, Marshall University, 1542 Spring Valley Drive, Huntington, WV 25704- 9388, USA bGraduate Center for Toxicology, University of Kentucky, Lexington, KY 40536, USA cAffinity Labeling Technologies, Inc., Lexington, KY 40508, USA Received 6 December 2004; accepted 25 February 2005. Available online 24 May 2005. Abstract Environmental exposure to mercurials continues to be a public health issue due to their deleterious effects on immune, renal and neurological function. Recently the safety of thimerosal, an ethyl mercury-containing preservative used in vaccines, has been questioned due to exposure of infants during immunization. Mercurials have been reported to cause apoptosis in cultured neurons; however, the signaling pathways resulting in cell death have not been well characterized. Therefore, the objective of this study was to identify the mode of cell death in an in vitro model of thimerosal-induced neurotoxicity, and more specifically, to elucidate signaling pathways which might serve as pharmacological targets. Within 2 h of thimerosal exposure (5 µM) to the human neuroblastoma cell line, SK-N- SH, morphological changes, including membrane alterations and cell shrinkage, were observed. Cell viability, assessed by measurement of lactate dehydrogenase (LDH) activity in the medium, as well as the 3- [4,5-dimethylthiazol-2-yl]-2,5-diphenyltetrazolium bromide (MTT) assay, showed a time- and concentration-dependent decrease in cell survival upon thimerosal exposure. In cells treated for 24 h with thimerosal, fluorescence microscopy indicated cells undergoing both apoptosis and oncosis/necrosis. To identify the apoptotic pathway associated with thimerosal-mediated cell death, we first evaluated the mitochondrial cascade, as both inorganic and organic mercurials have been reported to accumulate in the organelle. Cytochrome c was shown to leak from the mitochondria, followed by caspase 9 cleavage within 8 h of treatment. In addition, poly(ADP-ribose) polymerase (PARP) was cleaved to form a 85 kDa fragment following maximal caspase 3 activation at 24 h. Taken together these findings suggest deleterious effects on the cytoarchitecture by thimerosal and initiation of mitochondrial-mediated apoptosis. Keywords: Mercury; Thimerosal; Mitochondria; Neurotoxicity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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