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Sorry Sheri, will do.

Sue

> RE: Vit K

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> I thnk Kathy is on digest and I think that it is fine with her to post

> this. Why don't you email her privately

> Sheri

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> At 05:09 PM 05/06/2002 +0100, you wrote:

> >Kathy, this is brilliant. While I'm in the UK, lots of mums are

> pressurised

> >into permitting the Vit K injection - we're told no point in oral route

> >because baby may vomit it up then it's no good - so can I please

> cross-post

> >this to a couple of UK lists that I'm on?

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> >TIA,

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> >Love, light and peace,

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> >Sue

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> > " Better to light a candle than to curse the darkness. " - Chinese Proverb

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> > > -----Original Message-----

> >> From: Kathy Rateliff [mailto:rateliff@...]

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i personally knew a woman who had a homebirth and declined vit k for her

baby. unfortunately he hemorraghed as a result within 2 weeks. it was a

scary time obviously. i'm not saying give your baby vit k- just do the

research and make sure you're comfortable with what you decide. i did give

my babies vit k but then i felt it was probably prudent because of the

length of my labors. however, the only one out of 4 that received eye drops

was my hospital born baby. that was ignorance on my behalf :)

good luck making your decision. it's good to question routine procedures.

mandi

-- Re: Where is the discussion/questions on

If your newborn is breastfeeding and breastfeeding well there is no need

for Vit K for sure. I forget the exact med reason for giving it but it

is provided in breastmilk in good quantity. A quick web search will

probably give reason why but don't buy into having to do it.

Eye ointment which used to be silver nitrate (make sure they are NOT

using that) is to guard against eye infections. Also not necessary

unless IMO there's real worry of infection (dirty conditions, etc.)

I often wonder how the human race survived before all the birth

intervention stuff. ;-]

Sally

shoebootie@... wrote:

> Yes. I've got that in bold on my birthing plan. Needless to say, I've

> already gotten some slack over it from one of the nurses in Lamaze.

>

> On a side note, I couldn't help but notice another post that said no

> to the

> Vitamin K shot and the eye ointment. What's up with those? Something I

> should know about?

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> Debbie

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My first son had it. I was young and trusting of the doctors, it is a

vitamin, right? It didn't sound bad to give him a good ol' dose of a

healthy vitamin. He was very jaundice after that.

My second son was a homebirth and the midwife didn't believe in the vitamin

K shot, yet she carried the oral with her just in case a child had bleeding

issues at birth. She used it on a case by case basis and told me that she

ended up rarely using it.

My understanding is that it isn't really about clotting factors for

circumcising (yet, why in the world would you want to give your child a shot

of something that has potential side effects so that you can amputate part

of his penis???) but it is to try to prevent a VERY rare blood condition. I

can't remember what it was, it is very early in the morning and I was up all

night studying, but the amount of babies who actually have it are extremely

low.

Sara

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From: Vaccinations [mailto:Vaccinations ] On

Behalf Of almasysk

Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 6:10 AM

Vaccinations

Subject: vit k

In brief:

1.don't like vitamin k injection or drops on health/moral grounds

2.see vit k supplementation as potentially dangerous as well as

largely unecessary as routine policy

3.refused vit k for dd and would do again, officials not happy at all

and gave endless hassles but at the end of the day, them or child,

they can go jump.

Cath

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Vitamin K shot as I found out (someone please correct me if I am wrong) is

what the cause of some cancers are because the shot has a high amount of

things like ethyl alcohol and other harmful chemical preservatives. Vit K

is an essential nutrient that the best thing to do is for the mother to take

it orally and let it pass thru the breast milk to the baby. www.mercola

com has alo of info on this and is a good place to start.

As far as the circumcision is concerned the best thing to do if you decide

to do one is to have a Jewish guy do it at 7 days after birth. They do it

quickly as opposed to the inhumane hospital way. You do not have to be

Jewish to have them do it I am pretty sure. I think they are called moyels

(not sure of the spelling) Anyway contact a Jewish synagogue. I am not

trying to start a debate either way so please try not to let that get

started.

Rena

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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 07:43:34 EDT

From: Algaveda@...

Subject: Re: Re: more vit K qts

so can SOMEONE PLEASE clarify something for me- is it the actual Vit K

injection OR simply the large amounts of Vit K supplement (regardless of

how it

is administered )that we give, the cause of increased rates of some

childhood

cancers? What risk does the injection present over the oral Vitamin K? If

you have a baby circumsized with NO Vit K are they at increased risk for

bleeding or should they be fine? Has anyone done this?

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It's my understanding that infants have a natural peak of Vitamin K around

the 8th day, hence the command for Jews to wait until the 8th day to

circumcise. Since I am a lay midwife and do homebirths, many of the

families who choose circumcision wait until the 8th day to have it

performed, either in a traditional Jewish service or a family practitioner

will do it in his office. We have found many who will meet us at their

office on a Saturday morning to " do the deed " .

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Vit K is a precursor for folic acid and a catalyst for many important

chemical reactions and interchanges. Supplementation of K2 is still

being explore and is sort of the 'it' topic as of late especially for

people with problems with oxalates. IMO if you eat enough leafy greens

(one of the best sources of K) you should be ok. Putting Kale or

collards in your bone broth is a great way to get easily absorbable vit

K

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> I read several article on the Weston A Price site regarding taking

Vit K with the cod liver oil. If you believe what the article says,

we all should be taking vit K with the oil for absorption. What do

you guys think? Vit K2 for bone absorption.

>

> I would hate to be taking the expensive Blue Ice Cod Liver Oil and

have it not be doing anything.

==>You get plenty of Vitamin K from this diet, plus the fact that your

large colon makes it from other foods.

Bee

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Did you receive Vitamin K in pill form or by injection?

I didn't realize you'd had a variceal bleed. That must have been frightening.

Harper

In a message dated 7/16/07 5:04:22 PM, JJCATHCART@... writes:

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> I too took vitamin K after I had a variceal bleed./ Took right up until my

> transplant. It did help my bleeding a lot.........I too took vitamin K after I

> had a variceal bleed./ Took right up until my transplant.

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> Jj Cathcart

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Hi Everyone,

I'm wondering if you can tell me what kind of vitamin k (name brand) you use to

supplement with the vit e, and how much you use. The dosage of vit k.

Thank You so much

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I use Life Extension Super K with Advanced K2 complex

(www.lifeextension.com). We give 2 per day, but we give very high

doses of Vit E. They are softgels that you can squeeze out.

www.merck.com is a good source of info re: safety of Vit K. This is

what they have in them:

Supplement Facts

Serving Size 1 softgel

Servings Per Container 90

Amount Per Serving

Vitamin K1

9 mg

Vitamin K2

1000 mcg

(as menaquinone-4 and Nutri-K™ menaquinone-7)

Medium chain triglycerides (MCT oil)

215 mg

Ascorbyl palmitate (antioxidant)

25 mg

Other ingredients: gelatin, glycerin, beeswax, carob color.

This product contains NO milk, egg, fish, peanuts, crustacean

shellfish (lobster, crab, shrimp), soybeans, tree nuts, wheat,

yeast, gluten, corn, or rice. Contains NO sugar, and no artificial

sweeteners, flavors, colors, or preservatives.

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> Hi Everyone,

>

> I'm wondering if you can tell me what kind of vitamin k (name

brand) you use to supplement with the vit e, and how much you use.

The dosage of vit k.

>

> Thank You so much

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