Has anyone tried Omega's

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I am interested in hearing peoples views on omega supplements. How do you know

what brand is good, or the dosage?? I have also read that this can cause

behavior issues when first started. Any Advice

julie

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Here's a huge amount of info on this from the CHERAB FB page

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=115029735601 & topic=7401

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Hi, We started our almost 3 yro son on omega supplements a four months ago, with

a month without them in between. They seem to make a diffrence with his eye

contact and concentration, the change isn't radical but worth taking them

though. I never noticed any negative behaviours begin with taking them. We tried

quite a few diffrent brands & types, is hard getting kids to take it if they are

picky.

We now use blackmores double strength omega tabs that are odourless with a

slight vanila taste(don't know if you can get these out of nz, but would be able

to get similar), we just squeeze the oil into fruit juice and is unnoticable to

him except for the oil floating on the top, but you can use a sippy cup if this

is a problem.

Holly

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> I am interested in hearing peoples views on omega supplements. How do you

know what brand is good, or the dosage?? I have also read that this can cause

behavior issues when first started. Any Advice

> julie

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Hi

My 3 1/2 yr old daughter began taking omegas around nov/dec and her improvement

has been nothing short of miraculous. (nt just my opinion..also that of all of

her therapists) Her speech is progressing rapidly (you can see how by searching

for some of my older update posts) This month she began independently using word

approximations for 3-5 syllable phrases. Her fine and large motor skills also

improved alot since beginning the omegas. Her behavior is worse than it was

before the omegas but some of the other members on here told me to wait it out

and it should even out. I actually think after doing some thinking and

researching on it that it really isn't her behavior is having problems..I think

that the omegas are causing her to be more " normalized " and that she is now

acting like a typical 3 year old whereas before she was acting more like a 1

year old. She now wants to do everything HERSELF and makes no confusion about

it. She will insist on dressing and undressing etc. where before she just

complied with everything..so her behavior is more difficult for me but I think

it is actually better for her.!

I began her on omega 3 and then switched her (around Jan I think)to the ProEFA

from Nordic Naturals (omega 3-6-9) I think the ProEFA is working better for her.

Hope this info helps

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> I am interested in hearing peoples views on omega supplements. How do you

know what brand is good, or the dosage?? I have also read that this can cause

behavior issues when first started. Any Advice

> julie

>

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We just started with Nordic Naturals ~? where did you buy the Pro EFA and what

form is it in?? I am using gummies now but hear much better results with the

liquid.? i am just worried about getting him to actually take a fishy smelling

or tasting liquid.

Kristie

[ ] Re: Has anyone tried Omega's

Hi

My 3 1/2 yr old daughter began taking omegas around nov/dec and her improvement

has been nothing short of miraculous. (nt just my opinion..also that of all of

her therapists) Her speech is progressing rapidly (you can see how by searching

for some of my older update posts) This month she began independently using word

approximations for 3-5 syllable phrases. Her fine and large motor skills also

improved alot since beginning the omegas. Her behavior is worse than it was

before the omegas but some of the other members on here told me to wait it out

and it should even out. I actually think after doing some thinking and

researching on it that it really isn't her behavior is having problems..I think

that the omegas are causing her to be more " normalized " and that she is now

acting like a typical 3 year old whereas before she was acting more like a 1

year old. She now wants to do everything HERSELF and makes no confusion about

it. She will insist on dressing and undressing etc. where before she just

complied with everything..so her behavior is more difficult for me but I think

it is actually better for her.!

I began her on omega 3 and then switched her (around Jan I think)to the ProEFA

from Nordic Naturals (omega 3-6-9) I think the ProEFA is working better for her.

Hope this info helps

>

> I am interested in hearing peoples views on omega supplements. How do you know

what brand is good, or the dosage?? I have also read that this can cause

behavior issues when first started. Any Advice

> julie

>

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My son is 3.5 also and I have him on two ProEFAs and one ProEPA and yes, the

improvement is just short of miraculous. Without saying anything to his ST, she

commented on how much harder he was trying to speak 'lately' which was the time

period I started the Fish Oils.

Others are now understanding him also! WooHoo!

As for behavior, he was starting to act out like a typical three year old anyway

.... so for me? Behavior really didn't worsen but I do think the behavior

changes others see are what is 'normal' in non-apraxic children.

My concern is the amount of Vitamin E in the capsules ... if someone could

address that for me, I would be most grateful!

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Has any tried Omega's -this group wrote the book on trying Omegas (The Late

Talker book!)

As points out below -most of us have found " miraculous " results with the

right formula of fish oils on our apraxic child over the years. You can search

the archives for thousands of messages..we used to call it " magic fish oil " with

out kids. That started when my son Tanner was 3 and Dakota was 5 and the fish

oils first created the dramatic surges in Tanner. Dakota said to me " you know

what mommy? I think they put magic sprinkles in the fish oil to make Tanner

talk. I think it's magic fish oil " and poof -just like that " magic fish oil "

it was for the next couple of years.

I know this isn't the point but I even had this thing where I had to say " magic

fish oil magic fish oil magic fish oil " really fast and spin around 3 times

before Tanner could stop me for it to work. We'd all laugh. And the other one

that became a saying at our house is " fish oil for EVERYone! " See bet you

didn't know that fish oils could be so much fun.

Here's an archive from our http://www.apraxia.org FB page which is actually

pulled from this group. There are a huge amount of other messages here -so feel

free to click around there -or explore the archives here. There is also as I

say above an entire archive on this in The Late Talker book.

Here's a clip of an archive from the CHERAB group that may help answer some

basic questions about fish oils:

What fish oil should I give to my baby or child?

The confusion is more the brand names than the formulas. In actuality there

really is no such thing as a " children's EFA " perfect for all children yet.

However fish oils can be marketed to children by making fun flavorings and

smaller capsules. Most of the parents I know squeeze the oil out of the capsule

anyway -so that's besides the point for most of our group.

EFAs are in baby formula and food, and EFAs come and are used in a variety of

formulas for children for various reasons. Mainly we hear about the use of them

for healthy brain development in regards to children but Omega 3 and 6 are

essential fatty acids are essential to the body, yet our bodies can't produce

them so we need to consume them, and yet they are virtually lacking in our diets

today. There are tips posted to this discussion board on how to get fish oils

into children.

Dosage that was used for ten years now in the CHERAB group

" I will use the following examples with the brand name ProEFA since that's the

formula/dosage that seems to work the best for most of us (Efalex and EyeQ are

similar Omega 3/6 formulas that also have good reports) For any brand name of

Omega 3/6 formula -you could make the same formula by mixing together fish oil

and either primrose or borage seed oil. Keep in mind in anecdotal feedback done

by parents from all over through CHERAB -that pure Omega 3 (including cod liver

oil) or pure Omega 6 either showed no results -or very little results in almost

all cases. If wanting to use a pure Omega 3 the best reports were from higher

EPA formulas like Coromega -but again with the small amount of GLA better

results were reported.

When it comes to fish oils brand name isn't important, all that matters are

formula, dosage and quality of the oils.

Dosage of one capsule a day ProEFA that at the lowest dosage appears

to be the best -

148 mg EPA

99 mg DHA

40 mg GLA

Nordic Naturals makes a number of oils...the Omega 369 is the commercial line

sold in stores of the same professional line not sold in stores called ProEFA.

ProEFA is slighly cheaper as you get 90 capsules per bottle vs. 60 and in most

cases on line for around the same price at sites like http://www.speech411.com

For the person that says they are using Nordic Naturals " fish oil " that may or

may not be the right formula. You want the ratio of at least what's in the

ProEFA to start -but many of us in the CHERAB group found raising the EPA a bit

more brought even better results.

We should have a new website soon (thanks to !) but for now

here's some more info online

http://www.cherab.org/information/indexinformation.html#diet

Article from EngleMed " Look Who's Talking Now: Fish oil capsules help children

with speech disorders find their voices "

http://www.cherab.org/information/dietaryeffects/Englemed.html

There is also an entire chapter about fish oils in The Late Talker book.

If anyone has any questions please ask.

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Well first CONGRATULATIONS! The one thing I didn't go into on my last email is

the stages of fish oil belief. You are still in the stage one scream from the

rooftops excited stage. you won't really be a true believer however until for

whatever reason you run out of oils or don't give them because he's sick or

something...and he regresses. It's horrifying but fish oil regression is really

no biggie at all. You put them back on and they just go right back. And 'that'

is when you become a true believer of fish oils. Some people have to do that 2

or 3 times -I only had to do it once -and that was sad and cruel and I only did

it because Tanner was being tested for the preschool program and he was surging

so much I actually thought we wouldn't be able to secure all the services I knew

he needed. That was written about in The Lellow Breakthrough

http://www.cherab.org/information/dietaryeffects/LCPbook.html

It's my opinion that if you have any concerns about vitamin E or fish oil you

should speak to your pediatrician...however I can tell you that as a group we

have been using fish oils for a decade -thousands of us -and the side effects

have been nothing short of miraculous and amazing. It appears better students,

accelerated speech and motor skills. It's been a very good thing

You also have to keep in mind that due to this study your child probably does

need a bit higher than normal amount of vitamin E

(from an archive)

And another thing to keep in mind...if a child is on fish oil...then

he or she will need extra Vitamin E because....

" There is some concern that a diet rich in fish oil taken for many

months may induce a deficiency of vitamin E. People who eat a diet

high in fish or who take fish oil supplements may want to consider

taking vitamin E supplements. "

http://www.usadrug.com/IMCAccess/ConsSupplements/VitaminEcs.shtml

In my opinion however one should not go over upper tolerable levels set by the

Food and Nutrition Board of the Institute of Medicine. For the average

preschool child in this group -that would be 300 IUs. As each one capsule has

15 IUs you would have to give your child 20 capsules in order to reach the upper

tolerable level. Don't think that's happening!

The Food and Nutrition Board of the Institute of Medicine

Table 4: Tolerable Upper Intake Levels (UL) of vitamin E for Children

and Adults [5]

http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/vitamine.asp#h7

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Thanks ! I remember now about the extra Vit E needed. I just couldn't find

that post ... nor what amount was considered too much.

I didn't stop giving him the amount (2 EPA and 1 EPA) ... it has been remarkable

(that seems like not strong enough word for it!).

I am also making sure to tell every doctor and speech therapist he comes into

contact with. They all have been very grateful for the info ... I figure as

parents, we should also help doctors learn new things and info. They have so

much to keep up on that some disorders/diseases are overlooked. Help when we

can!

Thanks to this group ... wonderful resource!

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> Well first CONGRATULATIONS! The one thing I didn't go into on my last email

is the stages of fish oil belief. You are still in the stage one scream from

the rooftops excited stage. you won't really be a true believer however until

for whatever reason you run out of oils or don't give them because he's sick or

something...and he regresses. It's horrifying but fish oil regression is really

no biggie at all. You put them back on and they just go right back. And 'that'

is when you become a true believer of fish oils. Some people have to do that 2

or 3 times -I only had to do it once -and that was sad and cruel and I only did

it because Tanner was being tested for the preschool program and he was surging

so much I actually thought we wouldn't be able to secure all the services I knew

he needed. That was written about in The Lellow Breakthrough

> http://www.cherab.org/information/dietaryeffects/LCPbook.html

>

> It's my opinion that if you have any concerns about vitamin E or fish oil you

should speak to your pediatrician...however I can tell you that as a group we

have been using fish oils for a decade -thousands of us -and the side effects

have been nothing short of miraculous and amazing. It appears better students,

accelerated speech and motor skills. It's been a very good thing

>

> You also have to keep in mind that due to this study your child probably does

need a bit higher than normal amount of vitamin E

>

> (from an archive)

> And another thing to keep in mind...if a child is on fish oil...then

> he or she will need extra Vitamin E because....

>

> " There is some concern that a diet rich in fish oil taken for many

> months may induce a deficiency of vitamin E. People who eat a diet

> high in fish or who take fish oil supplements may want to consider

> taking vitamin E supplements. "

> http://www.usadrug.com/IMCAccess/ConsSupplements/VitaminEcs.shtml

>

> In my opinion however one should not go over upper tolerable levels set by the

Food and Nutrition Board of the Institute of Medicine. For the average

preschool child in this group -that would be 300 IUs. As each one capsule has

15 IUs you would have to give your child 20 capsules in order to reach the upper

tolerable level. Don't think that's happening!

>

>

> The Food and Nutrition Board of the Institute of Medicine

>

> Table 4: Tolerable Upper Intake Levels (UL) of vitamin E for Children

> and Adults [5]

> http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/vitamine.asp#h7

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