Re: NN Complete Omega 3.6.9 Liquid vs. NN Capsules Ratios

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I was told that 1/2 tsp was around 2 capsules. Thing is none of us is

going to be exact when it comes to liquid to capsules! Oils are going

to be more cost efficient -but they have a downside in that they are

liquid -fish oil liquid that is -outside the capsule that keeps them

fresh for up to 3 years. The bottle once opened only stays fresh for

a few months and needs to be refrigerated/harder to travel with. My

son Tanner noticed the taste difference and refused to take his oils

by the 3rd day of trying to use the oil in the bottle even though I

never told him it was any different.

After paying 100 bucks a half hour for therapy -I didn't care about

the small difference in cost to as much as no way can I have Tanner

refusing to take his fish oil. Besides I started to wonder...if the

oil is only fresh for a few months -is the oil as low in peroxide a

week after it's opened? A month? The capsules on the other

hand...each capsule is super fresh and stable.

Below is a quick post from http://www.apraxia.org Hope it helps!

Here's a clip of an archive from the CHERAB group that may help answer

some basic questions about fish oils:

What fish oil should I give to my baby or child?

The confusion is more the brand names than the formulas. In actuality

there really is no such thing as a " children's EFA " perfect for all

children yet. However fish oils can be marketed to children by making

fun flavorings and smaller capsules. Most of the parents I know

squeeze the oil out of the capsule anyway -so that's besides the point

for most of our group.

EFAs are in baby formula and food, and EFAs come and are used in a

variety of formulas for children for various reasons. Mainly we hear

about the use of them for healthy brain development in regards to

children but Omega 3 and 6 are essential fatty acids are essential to

the body, yet our bodies can't produce them so we need to consume

them, and yet they are virtually lacking in our diets today. There are

tips posted to this discussion board on how to get fish oils into

children.

Dosage that was used for ten years now in the CHERAB group

" I will use the following examples with the brand name ProEFA since

that's the formula/dosage that seems to work the best for most of us

(Efalex and EyeQ are similar Omega 3/6 formulas that also have good

reports) For any brand name of Omega 3/6 formula -you could make the

same formula by mixing together fish oil and either primrose or borage

seed oil. Keep in mind in anecdotal feedback done by parents from all

over through CHERAB -that pure Omega 3 (including cod liver oil) or

pure Omega 6 either showed no results -or very little results in

almost all cases. If wanting to use a pure Omega 3 the best reports

were from higher EPA formulas like Coromega -but again with the small

amount of GLA better results were reported.

When it comes to fish oils brand name isn't important, all that

matters are formula, dosage and quality of the oils.

Dosage of one capsule a day ProEFA that at the lowest dosage appears

to be the best -

148 mg EPA

99 mg DHA

40 mg GLA

Nordic Naturals makes a number of oils...the Omega 369 is the

commercial line sold in stores of the same professional line not sold

in stores called ProEFA. ProEFA is slighly cheaper as you get 90

capsules per bottle vs. 60

and in most cases on line for around the same price. For the person

that says they are using Nordic Naturals " fish oil " that may or may

not be the right formula. You want the ratio of at least what's in the

ProEFA to start -but many of us in the CHERAB group found raising the

EPA a bit more brought even better results.

We should have a new website soon (thanks to !) but for now

here's some more info online

http://www.cherab.org/information/indexinformation.html#diet

Article from EngleMed " Look Who's Talking Now: Fish oil capsules help

children with speech disorders find their voices "

http://www.cherab.org/information/dietaryeffects/Englemed.html

There is also an entire chapter about fish oils in The Late Talker book.

If anyone has any questions please ask.

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[Guest guest]

Help! I had my son on NN CLO AND 1 tsp of Complete Omega 3.6.9. After reading

the info on here, I've decided to go the route of removing the CLO and adding

the ProEPA.

Here's the thing...do I keep him on 1 tsp of Omega 3.6.9 and add 1 capsule of

ProEPA? Should I increase the ProEPA or lower the 3.6.9? I'm trying to get the

right ratio.

For what it's worth, I do have the capsules of ProEFA. So, I could eliminate

the liquid 3.6.9 altogether but I would need to know how many capsules to equal

what I've been giving him in liquid...unless it's better to go down in dosage.

Confused yet?

Thanks!

Joanna

http://drewautismdiary.blogspot.com

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> I was told that 1/2 tsp was around 2 capsules. Thing is none of us is

> going to be exact when it comes to liquid to capsules! Oils are going

> to be more cost efficient -but they have a downside in that they are

> liquid -fish oil liquid that is -outside the capsule that keeps them

> fresh for up to 3 years. The bottle once opened only stays fresh for

> a few months and needs to be refrigerated/harder to travel with. My

> son Tanner noticed the taste difference and refused to take his oils

> by the 3rd day of trying to use the oil in the bottle even though I

> never told him it was any different.

>

> After paying 100 bucks a half hour for therapy -I didn't care about

> the small difference in cost to as much as no way can I have Tanner

> refusing to take his fish oil. Besides I started to wonder...if the

> oil is only fresh for a few months -is the oil as low in peroxide a

> week after it's opened? A month? The capsules on the other

> hand...each capsule is super fresh and stable.

>

> Below is a quick post from http://www.apraxia.org Hope it helps!

>

> Here's a clip of an archive from the CHERAB group that may help answer

> some basic questions about fish oils:

>

> What fish oil should I give to my baby or child?

>

> The confusion is more the brand names than the formulas. In actuality

> there really is no such thing as a " children's EFA " perfect for all

> children yet. However fish oils can be marketed to children by making

> fun flavorings and smaller capsules. Most of the parents I know

> squeeze the oil out of the capsule anyway -so that's besides the point

> for most of our group.

>

> EFAs are in baby formula and food, and EFAs come and are used in a

> variety of formulas for children for various reasons. Mainly we hear

> about the use of them for healthy brain development in regards to

> children but Omega 3 and 6 are essential fatty acids are essential to

> the body, yet our bodies can't produce them so we need to consume

> them, and yet they are virtually lacking in our diets today. There are

> tips posted to this discussion board on how to get fish oils into

> children.

>

> Dosage that was used for ten years now in the CHERAB group

>

> " I will use the following examples with the brand name ProEFA since

> that's the formula/dosage that seems to work the best for most of us

> (Efalex and EyeQ are similar Omega 3/6 formulas that also have good

> reports) For any brand name of Omega 3/6 formula -you could make the

> same formula by mixing together fish oil and either primrose or borage

> seed oil. Keep in mind in anecdotal feedback done by parents from all

> over through CHERAB -that pure Omega 3 (including cod liver oil) or

> pure Omega 6 either showed no results -or very little results in

> almost all cases. If wanting to use a pure Omega 3 the best reports

> were from higher EPA formulas like Coromega -but again with the small

> amount of GLA better results were reported.

>

> When it comes to fish oils brand name isn't important, all that

> matters are formula, dosage and quality of the oils.

>

> Dosage of one capsule a day ProEFA that at the lowest dosage appears

> to be the best -

> 148 mg EPA

> 99 mg DHA

> 40 mg GLA

>

> Nordic Naturals makes a number of oils...the Omega 369 is the

> commercial line sold in stores of the same professional line not sold

> in stores called ProEFA. ProEFA is slighly cheaper as you get 90

> capsules per bottle vs. 60

> and in most cases on line for around the same price. For the person

> that says they are using Nordic Naturals " fish oil " that may or may

> not be the right formula. You want the ratio of at least what's in the

> ProEFA to start -but many of us in the CHERAB group found raising the

> EPA a bit more brought even better results.

>

> We should have a new website soon (thanks to !) but for now

> here's some more info online

> http://www.cherab.org/information/indexinformation.html#diet

>

> Article from EngleMed " Look Who's Talking Now: Fish oil capsules help

> children with speech disorders find their voices "

> http://www.cherab.org/information/dietaryeffects/Englemed.html

>

> There is also an entire chapter about fish oils in The Late Talker book.

>

> If anyone has any questions please ask.

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Joanna,

1/2 tsp of ProEFA (or Omega 369) is about the same as 2 capsules of ProEFA. In

order to do the same ratio that has worked best for most of us you'd add one

capsule of ProEPA to each 1/2 tsp of ProEFA. This means you can cut the dosage

of ProEFA down to 1/2 tsp and give the one capsule of ProEPA with that -or still

give the 1 tsp of ProEFA and give the one capsule of ProEPA. If you were to

increase again you'd add the ProEPA.

Not sure if you who brought it up but as far as lipid testing to increase

-scientifically speaking all would love if this method really worked to tell us

what is needed. And we all do try it -or many of us do at some point. Some of

us lowered or raised oils due to the testing. Unfortunately as you'll read in

the archives it doesn't work and outside of the formula we found to work -the

lipid testing doesn't tell you the " right " formula. There's the whole blood

brain barrier for just one possible reason why. Thankfully we have at this

point thousands of testimonies over a decade- that's got to mean

something...scientifically speaking I mean.

http://cherab.org/news/scientific.html

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for the reply ! I think that I might just go ahead and switch to the

ProEFA capsules and lower the dose to the original recommended ratio (2 ProEFA:

1 ProEPA). I KNOW he has the sounds in him. He just can't keep them up (they

come and go although it's been 3 months since I've heard most of them).

It wasn't me who brought up the lipid testing, but interesting nonetheless.

Thanks

Joanna

http://drewsautismdiary.blogspot.com

>

> Hi Joanna,

>

> 1/2 tsp of ProEFA (or Omega 369) is about the same as 2 capsules of ProEFA.

In order to do the same ratio that has worked best for most of us you'd add one

capsule of ProEPA to each 1/2 tsp of ProEFA. This means you can cut the dosage

of ProEFA down to 1/2 tsp and give the one capsule of ProEPA with that -or still

give the 1 tsp of ProEFA and give the one capsule of ProEPA. If you were to

increase again you'd add the ProEPA.

>

> Not sure if you who brought it up but as far as lipid testing to increase

-scientifically speaking all would love if this method really worked to tell us

what is needed. And we all do try it -or many of us do at some point. Some of

us lowered or raised oils due to the testing. Unfortunately as you'll read in

the archives it doesn't work and outside of the formula we found to work -the

lipid testing doesn't tell you the " right " formula. There's the whole blood

brain barrier for just one possible reason why. Thankfully we have at this

point thousands of testimonies over a decade- that's got to mean

something...scientifically speaking I mean.

> http://cherab.org/news/scientific.html

>

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