Sign Language

[Guest guest]

Patsy,

That makes sense too. I just wondered if my friend's class was a good

thing, because she seems to be learning it pretty quickly. She is hoh

though, she still gets benefit from hearing aids. I don't, at all, I just

get low environmental sounds with my aid on my unimplanted side, and maybe a

little directionality. Without the CI, I have nothing.

Binns

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From: MSBUDDY1951@...

Reply-

Subject: Re: sign language

Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 22:00:26 EDT

, my daughter is 35 years old so she was not really that young when

she

learnt. But I think it's wrong for someone not to allow a deaf person to

speak if they can. It's only right that we use as many of our senses as we

can. I'd be against that class all the way. After I lost my hearing at

the age

of 12, my speech teacher told me " Patsy, you are deaf now, if you start to

depend on ASL as your only language you will forget how to talk, so I want

you

to talk. I have always talked I felt that was the best advise anyone could

give a little deaf girl that just lost her hearing...................Patsy

[Guest guest]

Hi

When I took sign language we were required to go to Silent Suppers.

We would go out to dinner together and not a word could be spoken.

Line learning any foeign language - when one is immersed in a

language they learn it quicker. When one stops conversing in a

language it becomes easier to forget it. I experienced this with

spanish. While I studied two years in high school I remember very

little of it now; because I do not utilize it much. The blessing of

sign language sometimes is that it is so much visual - almost like

seeing a story being presented before you.

Kim B

Advanced Bionics 1994

>

> Patsy,

> That makes sense too. I just wondered if my friend's class was a

good

> thing, because she seems to be learning it pretty quickly. She is

hoh

> though, she still gets benefit from hearing aids. I don't, at

all, I just

> get low environmental sounds with my aid on my unimplanted side,

and maybe a

> little directionality. Without the CI, I have nothing.

>

> Binns

>

> ----Original Message Follows----

> From: MSBUDDY1951@...

> Reply-

>

> Subject: Re: sign language

> Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 22:00:26 EDT

>

> , my daughter is 35 years old so she was not really that

young when

> she

> learnt. But I think it's wrong for someone not to allow a deaf

person to

> speak if they can. It's only right that we use as many of our

senses as we

> can. I'd be against that class all the way. After I lost my

hearing at

> the age

> of 12, my speech teacher told me " Patsy, you are deaf now, if you

start to

> depend on ASL as your only language you will forget how to talk,

so I want

> you

> to talk. I have always talked I felt that was the best advise

anyone could

> give a little deaf girl that just lost her

hearing...................Patsy

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

We used American Sign Language. In our opinion it made more sense to use

something that many people recognize. There is a better chance of others being

able to communicate with our little ones. ASL is used by deaf people and others

that teach it to their children. I think it is a very good tool for our children

to use for a long time. Baby sign is just that, signs people think are good ones

for babies to use. I hope you have great success in whatever you choose!

Blessings!

[Guest guest]

Karin,

We predominately use ASL and

Signed English. I introduced

the Signed English since that

is what the school districts

around us use in the

classrooms. I really wanted my

daugher and my husband and I

to be prepared for this should

she be limited in verbal

speech when starting school.

Our instructor in ASL said

that children should learn

both - ASL for interacting

with the deaf community and SE

for succeeding in school.

I have some of the Baby Signs

material, as they have

excellent tools. If you use

Baby Signs, concentrate on the

newest release items -

originally only about 60% of

their material was based in

ASL. Now it is 90% based on

ASL and 10% adapted signs. I

liked Baby Signs in that it

gave alternates for little

fingers that could not do

appropriate signs. Our SLP

stressed that we reinforce the

appropriate signs as soon as

my daughter had the motor

skill to do them correctly.

She said it is much like a

child going from calling thier

stomach a " tummy " and then

" stomach " once they are older.

A set of videos the entire

family enjoys is Signing Time

and Baby Signing Time.

I noticed is 4

months...we started about this

age doing ASL with Sammy. She

is now 25 months and doing

fantastic with her

communication. We also read to

her every night before bed and

play with board books during

the day to help build language

and reinforce signs.

~

sign

language

I have a question about

teaching your baby sign

language. Is it better to use

American Sign Language or baby

sign? I'm not sure exactly

what the difference is, so I'd

like opinions from anyone who

has used either.

Here's a link to a few (OK,

it's more than a few pics I

had taken of my little angel

this week, in case anyone is

interested. :-) (I hope this

isn't against the rules!)

http://www.kimberly

<http://www.kimberlylyonsphoto

graphy.photosite.com/Album58/>

lyonsphotography.photosite.com

/Album58/ <http://www.kimberly

<http://www.kimberlylyonsphoto

graphy.photosite.com/Album58/>

lyonsphotography.photosite.com

/Album58/>

Thanks!

Karin, mom to (12) and

(4 months, DS)

[Guest guest]

Absolutely not against the rules! The pictures are awesome, I am so glad you

shared them. My favs are #36 and #42.

We used ASL with . But at that time, I don't even remember baby sign being

an option. We just did what the ST said to.

Thanks again for the pics.

Sharon H.

Mom to , (15, DS) and , (11)

South Carolina

" Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of

battle. "

sign language

I have a question about teaching your baby sign language. Is it better to use

American Sign Language or baby sign? I'm not sure exactly what the difference

is, so I'd like opinions from anyone who has used either.

Here's a link to a few (OK, it's more than a few pics I had taken of my

little angel this week, in case anyone is interested. :-) (I hope this isn't

against the rules!)

http://www.kimberlylyonsphotography.photosite.com/Album58/

<http://www.kimberlylyonsphotography.photosite.com/Album58/>

Thanks!

Karin, mom to (12) and (4 months, DS)

[Guest guest]

Karin,

Thanks for sharing the slide show. The pictures were absolutely beautiful! I

love the creativity the photographer used. I love the black & whites! You must

look at those pictures every day! Great job!

-Lori-

Mom to Staci 27 (my Grandchildren Kendra 8, Tyrance 6 & Terrell), 24,

23, Jayda 6, Shayli 4 (DS), & Sophie 2

sign language

I have a question about teaching your baby sign language. Is it better to use

American Sign Language or baby sign? I'm not sure exactly what the difference

is, so I'd like opinions from anyone who has used either.

Here's a link to a few (OK, it's more than a few pics I had taken of my

little angel this week, in case anyone is interested. :-) (I hope this isn't

against the rules!)

http://www.kimberlylyonsphotography.photosite.com/Album58/

<http://www.kimberlylyonsphotography.photosite.com/Album58/>

Thanks!

Karin, mom to (12) and (4 months, DS)

[Guest guest]

For those of you who might be interested in learning some sign language,

there are two excellent books you might like to self teach. Once learning a

few

signs, you put them together using regular English syntax (sentence

structure) and you are signing exact signed English that will get you through

any

conversation. Most Deaf appreciate your effort and you will enjoy learning and

using it, too. So - " The Joy of Signing " and " Signing Illustrated " . Both

are excellent - divided into categories (family words, school words, travel

words, etc). Hope this helps someone. ) Jackie

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[Guest guest]

I used American Sign Language. We didn't use Dvd's just whatever signs he

needed to help him. You can look online or go to the book store for an ASL

dictionary. To me its easier to learn as you need it than trying to sit down

and learn a bunch at once.

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[Guest guest]

I looking for info on how well this worked for your child and family

How did you learn to sign with your child any good dvd's you use

for family to learn and has sign language help your child thanks

[Guest guest]

My daughter is 4 and we started sign at age 1 with her. We watch the DVDs

together and learn together. She can tell us her basic needs and knows a lot

of signs. We use the signing time DVDs. She loves them. We tried Baby

Einstein but she was not interested in that one. A local school here that

has a program for hearing impaired and deaf children also offers classes for

parents. We also bought a sign language dictionnary and try to learn signs

that are important for her to learn so that she can communicate her needs.

Anja

On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:45 PM, ndcfxc <ndcfxc@...> wrote:

> I looking for info on how well this worked for your child and family

> How did you learn to sign with your child any good dvd's you use

> for family to learn and has sign language help your child thanks

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Baby Signing Time DVDs have really helped my son over the past several months

(who is now 27 months).  The songs are catchy and hold his attention and the

signs are easy enough to learn. Learning the signs has helped reduce his

frustrations and since he is a visual learner, he seemed to pick up the basic

signs pretty quickly.

 

Check out the website at www.babysigningtime.  You can even preview some of the

DVD clips and decide if it is what you are looking for.

 

My son continues with speech therapy--he has been going since 16 months old. 

Also, our ST, especially in the beginning, incorporated simple signs into the

sessions, which helped me learn too.

 

Best,

From: ndcfxc <ndcfxc@...>

Subject: [ ] Sign Language

Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 5:45 PM

I looking for info on how well this worked for your child and family

How did you learn to sign with your child any good dvd's you use

for family to learn and has sign language help your child thanks

[Guest guest]

The DVDs I recommend for Sign Language is " Signing Time " . It is a great series.

Kids love it. What I liked the most, was the children in the movie sign the

words, and you can see how each child has their own way of getting the word

across. I have used sign with my son since he was a baby. At two and three

years old he was using more sign then he had vocal words. The words eventually

came. What I found was he would learn the sign and then work the word out

shortly there after.

" Normal is a setting on a dryer "

[Guest guest]

Signing Time are good videos!!! And always good idea to pair up the word with

the signing!!!It is important to keep verbal contact with them!!! Repetition,

repetition, repetition!!! It works!!!

Love, Gabby. :0)

http://stemcellforautism.blogspot.com/

 

" I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely neurotypical. Even God had

some Autistic moments, which is why the planets all spin. " ~ Jerry Newport

 

 

[Guest guest]

We have been using sign language as a " bridge " for communication.

We first learned sign language at church for $10 for the whole

family, and we still have the book " A Basic Course " . Really you need

to learn as much " vocabulary " as possible. We use what is called MCE

(Manually Coded English) rather than ASL. American Sign Language

reverses the order of some words and puts words like " you " at the end

of the sentence.

Since you are trying to " cue " your child's memory by using the sign

language, you want to use " English order " for the words. We speak the

words as we sign them (and slow is ok, if you do not know many words,

because that will actually help your child to slow down and think

about the words in his/her brain!!! It is ok if you do not know every

single word, as we still do not and we are learning as we go.

Start with basic colors, numbers, and familiar words.

We have actually had our son get the word right sometimes when he

speaks! So, we know the signed language helps in cuing his memory to

remember how the word sequenced, which is what people with Apraxia

have the trouble with. Just ignore the " ASL " ordering in that book

and just focus on te vocabulary. Communications sells this

book and they also sell the video that shows you the how the signs

are done for the vocabulary. " A Basic Courseis by Humphries, Padden,

and O'Rourke. I strongly recommend the sign language! :0)

[Guest guest]

Hey ,

It's a shame you can't get the PT started. There is a book titled Gross

Motor Skills and Children with Down syndrome by Pat Winders. She was my

son's PT consultant. Your local library or Parent resource center should

have that library (each school system should have a parent resource center

with books to borrow). Are there any feeding issues? If so, OT and ST would

be beneficial.

In some ways, you are fortunate to just enjoy Noah without juggling the

therapies just yet.

Sign Language

> Good morning,

>

> Figured people probably wanted a new topic to talk about (other than jello

> --- not getting into that again just a joke).

>

>

>

> So, I had a couple of questions for those experienced long before I have

> entered this puzzle called life.

>

>

>

> 1. I continue to try to get Noah (3months now) into therapy. My

> doctor says because of his inability at this age no matter what to walk,

> crawl etc, there would be no point in putting him in physical therapy yet.

> And because he can't talk why would we put him in speech therapy yet.

> Problem being therapy places won't take me without referral from doctor.

> I

> went to a second doctor who agreed with first doctor. So now I am on 4

> month waiting list for early intervention And in the mean time they are

> coming out once in a while and doing some basic " preliminary assessments " .

> Other than that I can't get him any therapy. Very Very frustrating

> because

> everything I read and hear is therapy should start right away. So for the

> question. How soon should therapy start, and what kinds of therapy, how

> often etc. in your opinions/experience.

>

> 2. One of the early intervention representatives recommended that I

> begin thinking about teaching Noah sign language (even at his age), as

> well

> as his 2 year old sister sign language, to assist them in communicating

> with

> each other as well as us. They suggested that there was some " program

> (didn't specify television, computer, what) that was really beneficial.

> Thought I'd see what everyone's experience was with that so I could begin

> working on that.

>

>

>

> Other than that I am grateful I don't have to deal with schools yet

> reading

> everyone's posts, and realize that it is a short while away.

>

>

>

> For quick update. The Dr.'s moved Noah's surgery up and we had it last

> week. After open heart surgery, repair and 2 day recovery in the hospital

> we are home and he is doing much better. Growing. Smiling. Laughing.

> Sucking his thumb. All at 3 months. Who would have thought J

>

>

>

> Thanks in advance for your insight.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

Congrats on Noah's surgery - sounds as if he is doing great!!

1. We started physical therapy for Sam at 3 WEEKS - EI came to the

house every week and gave me exercises to help strengthen his legs,

tummy, arm and back. I think you can find literature to back up your

requests for a referral. Depending on where you live there may be a

developmental program or Down Syndrome clinic that you can get a

referral to. Here in Portland Oregon we have two such places. There

is a series of books about gross and fine motor skills for kids with

DS (I found mine used on amazon). These can help back you up at the

Doctor's office.

2. We use Signing Time videos for Sam. Hi sisters picked it up very

quickly and the songs are catchy, too! Our library carries the entire

series as well as the lending library at the Early Intervention/ Early

Childhood Special Ed Center.

Good luck with everything!

Barb - Mom to 12, 10 and Sam 4 living in Portland Oregon

and wishing I had a vacation coming up soon!

On Aug 25, 2009, at 1:07 PM, Boruchowitz wrote:

> Good morning,

>

> Figured people probably wanted a new topic to talk about (other than

> jello

> --- not getting into that again just a joke).

>

> So, I had a couple of questions for those experienced long before I

> have

> entered this puzzle called life.

>

> 1. I continue to try to get Noah (3months now) into therapy. My

> doctor says because of his inability at this age no matter what to

> walk,

> crawl etc, there would be no point in putting him in physical

> therapy yet.

> And because he can't talk why would we put him in speech therapy yet.

> Problem being therapy places won't take me without referral from

> doctor. I

> went to a second doctor who agreed with first doctor. So now I am on 4

> month waiting list for early intervention And in the mean time they

> are

> coming out once in a while and doing some basic " preliminary

> assessments " .

> Other than that I can't get him any therapy. Very Very frustrating

> because

> everything I read and hear is therapy should start right away. So

> for the

> question. How soon should therapy start, and what kinds of therapy,

> how

> often etc. in your opinions/experience.

>

> 2. One of the early intervention representatives recommended that I

> begin thinking about teaching Noah sign language (even at his age),

> as well

> as his 2 year old sister sign language, to assist them in

> communicating with

> each other as well as us. They suggested that there was some " program

> (didn't specify television, computer, what) that was really

> beneficial.

> Thought I'd see what everyone's experience was with that so I could

> begin

> working on that.

>

> Other than that I am grateful I don't have to deal with schools yet

> reading

> everyone's posts, and realize that it is a short while away.

>

> For quick update. The Dr.'s moved Noah's surgery up and we had it last

> week. After open heart surgery, repair and 2 day recovery in the

> hospital

> we are home and he is doing much better. Growing. Smiling. Laughing.

> Sucking his thumb. All at 3 months. Who would have thought J

>

> Thanks in advance for your insight.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Play with him, talk to him, sing to him, read to him.

granny

On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Boruchowitz <dboruchowitz@...>wrote:

>

>

> Good morning,

>

> Figured people probably wanted a new topic to talk about (other than jello

> --- not getting into that again just a joke).

>

> So, I had a couple of questions for those experienced long before I have

> entered this puzzle called life.

>

> 1. I continue to try to get Noah (3months now) into therapy. My

> doctor says because of his inability at this age no matter what to walk,

> crawl etc, there would be no point in putting him in physical therapy yet.

> And because he can't talk why would we put him in speech therapy yet.

> Problem being therapy places won't take me without referral from doctor. I

> went to a second doctor who agreed with first doctor. So now I am on 4

> month waiting list for early intervention And in the mean time they are

> coming out once in a while and doing some basic " preliminary assessments " .

> Other than that I can't get him any therapy. Very Very frustrating because

> everything I read and hear is therapy should start right away. So for the

> question. How soon should therapy start, and what kinds of therapy, how

> often etc. in your opinions/experience.

>

> 2. One of the early intervention representatives recommended that I

> begin thinking about teaching Noah sign language (even at his age), as well

> as his 2 year old sister sign language, to assist them in communicating

> with

> each other as well as us. They suggested that there was some " program

> (didn't specify television, computer, what) that was really beneficial.

> Thought I'd see what everyone's experience was with that so I could begin

> working on that.

>

> Other than that I am grateful I don't have to deal with schools yet reading

> everyone's posts, and realize that it is a short while away.

>

> For quick update. The Dr.'s moved Noah's surgery up and we had it last

> week. After open heart surgery, repair and 2 day recovery in the hospital

> we are home and he is doing much better. Growing. Smiling. Laughing.

> Sucking his thumb. All at 3 months. Who would have thought J

>

> Thanks in advance for your insight.

>

>

>

>