Re: Can you all share what

[Guest guest]

> please share what ways worked the best with your child and what and why do

> some push the computer so much thanks nikki

Prompt is what helped my son talk.

The computer has been a great learning tool for my son, but not for

his speech. Earobics has helped him with phonological awareness,

starfall and other sites have been fun and have helped him with

reading. I taught him to learn and be able to spell our last name by

using it as a password on the computer. I posted it on a post-it and

he typed it in enough times that it stuck.

Miche

[Guest guest]

Hi,

 

I have to add something to this please. Do not think that your school in PA is

the worst one out there and the only one out there living and teaching in the

past. In my state of NH we have a very bad special education  system here. Not

the entire state but most of the school districts in the northern part have the

worst schools the county of Coos especially is living in the clouds. In my city

of Berlin if you mentioned the words Kaufamn to them they would look at you

witha blank stare. They do not do Kaufman cards,  they do not  use sign

language unless the child is hearing impaired, do not believe in the PECs

program much and I have not had them even suggest usinga  computer with my son

for use in speech therapy. The head of the ST program in my district is an idiot

really. ( If there is someone else from my city on this board please come

forward and speak up). I just thought i would add that your school is not the

only one without a clue to what

they are doing or offering for services to our children.

 

Good Luck ,

 

Jeanne

NH

From: ndcfxc <ndcfxc@...>

Subject: [ ] Can you all share what

Date: Saturday, April 11, 2009, 6:24 PM

Ways helpd your child to talk. Why i ask this is we used for years a computer

did nothing for my son in fact it really was not a help he never talked words by

using it. Then we used signs and he been saying words he signs here is my

problem i have two speech teachers we live in PA the worst place on earth for

eduction they live in the past lol in my area they so far behind on things that

work is sad.

My private speech teacher is wonderful she gone to a workshop by nancy kaufman

she uses the kaufman cards and they working wonders for my son she uses the say

and sign stuff and she uses tactile ideas she uses alot of multi sensory since

my son is apraxia and a sensory and auditory process child.

my school speech uses some sotra of card program and she always trying to push

the computer on my son saying oh no the computer works best not signs and that

other stuff it upsets me why on earth if we seeing say and signs work and the

kaufman cards why would you keep pushing the computer

please share what ways worked the best with your child and what and why do some

push the computer so much thanks nikki

[Guest guest]

It sounds like you need so much help I wouldn't know where to start. I guess

for me to share at least the basic starter things to do are pretty much all in

The Late Talker book (did you read that?) How old is your son now? No matter

what age I'd read the book if I were you because there for sure will be things

you can pull from it. It's never too late to get on the right track and no time

like today. Congratulations for finding us! Robin's daughter grew up

in PA so I know how bad it can be- and I don't know if I can share that she won

the law suit against them -so pretend I didn't just say that.

http://www.cherab.org/news/.html But yes that bad. Shame on them for

what they did to an innocent child.

Robin didn't find our group until was 17.

(part of the story at the above link)

=====

[Guest guest]

We you say computer do you mean a communication device?

We use all forms of communication not just one. I let Trisha lead us in which

mode she prefers to communicate but you have to remember we still need to teach

her other modes as well so when she says or signs something then we will ask her

to find it on her device just to make sure she can. I'm not so sure if it's

" pushing " or " encouraging " there's a fine line between the two.

Have you asked that both therapists talk with each other so one knows what the

other is doing?

The more ways someone has to communicate the better. Think about it we all use

different ways to communicate each day without even thinking about it. Our kids

should have that same opportunity. Some people " push " speech over sign, some

push sign over communication devices some push speech over communication and so

on.

Why push anyone form, why not embrace them all? BTW, I'm not saying you are

pushing one over the other just making a statement of what I have seen over the

years. I love total communication because it gives Trisha access to

communication when her other modes are not appropriate or available. JMHO

Carol

From: ndcfxc

Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 6:24 PM

Subject: [ ] Can you all share what

Ways helpd your child to talk. Why i ask this is we used for years a computer

did nothing for my son in fact it really was not a help he never talked words by

using it. Then we used signs and he been saying words he signs here is my

problem i have two speech teachers we live in PA the worst place on earth for

eduction they live in the past lol in my area they so far behind on things that

work is sad.

My private speech teacher is wonderful she gone to a workshop by nancy kaufman

she uses the kaufman cards and they working wonders for my son she uses the say

and sign stuff and she uses tactile ideas she uses alot of multi sensory since

my son is apraxia and a sensory and auditory process child.

my school speech uses some sotra of card program and she always trying to push

the computer on my son saying oh no the computer works best not signs and that

other stuff it upsets me why on earth if we seeing say and signs work and the

kaufman cards why would you keep pushing the computer

please share what ways worked the best with your child and what and why do

some push the computer so much thanks nikki

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much  i have read her story she not for from me  i live in the

Lehigh valley area its about  a hour in a half from  where melanie grew up . My

son is 9 years old very smart little boy he can do so much he does understand

you he just can;t get the words out he does some some words some  you cna;t

really understand but we work on that but  what gets  me is this school speech

teacher  she always telling us the computer will  make him talk i like no no it

never did  its more for learning things  and with his sensory issues  the

computer just was not good for him when he overloaded its just to much  we are

using the kaufman cards  with our  private speech teacher and  signs  in my

area  the schools plus school  speech teachers are not understanding apraxia 

nor half don;t even know how to work with  kids with it school  teachers are so

loss  .

 

my son goes to a private  school   now its a special  school for   kids of

special needs but they have no clue what or how to work with kids  of apraxia 

its sad  i been learning alot in this group  and i hoping to  this summer try 

all ways  that seem to work    i am going to  get that book and read it as well

thanks  nikki

From: kiddietalk <kiddietalk@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Can you all share what

Date: Saturday, April 11, 2009, 8:34 PM

It sounds like you need so much help I wouldn't know where to start. I guess for

me to share at least the basic starter things to do are pretty much all in The

Late Talker book (did you read that?) How old is your son now? No matter what

age I'd read the book if I were you because there for sure will be things you

can pull from it. It's never too late to get on the right track and no time like

today. Congratulations for finding us! Robin's daughter grew up in PA so

I know how bad it can be- and I don't know if I can share that she won the law

suit against them -so pretend I didn't just say that. http://www.cherab.

org/news/ .html But yes that bad. Shame on them for what they did to an

innocent child.

Robin didn't find our group until was 17.

(part of the story at the above link)

=====

[Guest guest]

yes sorry communication device  it never worked  for us it maybe that my son has

so much going on with sensory he  has issues with light and loud  and he on the

hypro side lol multi- sensory  seems to work for us with signs and the kaufman

cards

 

oh yes they  did  get together  i set them up a few weeks ago they email well 

my private one tryed to tell her  do you use the kaufman cards and workbooks

she  told her i heard of them but i have this  photo card set from years ago i

use  then my private one kept saying we  can try the multi  sensory ideas she 

told my private  speech teacher oh parents always think their private  speech is

the miracle worker and they know it all she  told my private  speech i still

think the communication  device is the  way to go with kids like this she  is

like  trying to say nothing else works put those  computer   devices  so they

seem to not get along and hear i am in the middle saying i agree i seen the

change when he used signs and the kaufman  cards and when she used  some 

tactile  visual cues

 

my private  speech feels the school one is  like stick in  one setting  she

feels she  not open minded to what else works and she  not open minded to   see

the  facts research and use uptodate things  to me if she using  soem sorta

photo cards she got years ago she not keeping up with  the new things or trying

new things

 

in any case  i with the private speech on this and we working on what  will

work  but this school one  gets me and  in three years my son had her as a

school  speech she only called one one time that was three years ago and i never

get any weekly info reports  or letters from her  to me she not a help to my

son  i just want the best for my son and want  good ways to help him lol

From: csvillars <Csvillars@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] Can you all share what

Date: Saturday, April 11, 2009, 8:35 PM

We you say computer do you mean a communication device?

We use all forms of communication not just one. I let Trisha lead us in which

mode she prefers to communicate but you have to remember we still need to teach

her other modes as well so when she says or signs something then we will ask her

to find it on her device just to make sure she can. I'm not so sure if it's

" pushing " or " encouraging " there's a fine line between the two.

Have you asked that both therapists talk with each other so one knows what the

other is doing?

The more ways someone has to communicate the better. Think about it we all use

different ways to communicate each day without even thinking about it. Our kids

should have that same opportunity. Some people " push " speech over sign, some

push sign over communication devices some push speech over communication and so

on.

Why push anyone form, why not embrace them all? BTW, I'm not saying you are

pushing one over the other just making a statement of what I have seen over the

years. I love total communication because it gives Trisha access to

communication when her other modes are not appropriate or available. JMHO

Carol

From: ndcfxc

Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 6:24 PM

@groups. com

Subject: [childrensapraxiane t] Can you all share what

Ways helpd your child to talk. Why i ask this is we used for years a computer

did nothing for my son in fact it really was not a help he never talked words by

using it. Then we used signs and he been saying words he signs here is my

problem i have two speech teachers we live in PA the worst place on earth for

eduction they live in the past lol in my area they so far behind on things that

work is sad.

My private speech teacher is wonderful she gone to a workshop by nancy kaufman

she uses the kaufman cards and they working wonders for my son she uses the say

and sign stuff and she uses tactile ideas she uses alot of multi sensory since

my son is apraxia and a sensory and auditory process child.

my school speech uses some sotra of card program and she always trying to push

the computer on my son saying oh no the computer works best not signs and that

other stuff it upsets me why on earth if we seeing say and signs work and the

kaufman cards why would you keep pushing the computer

please share what ways worked the best with your child and what and why do some

push the computer so much thanks nikki

[Guest guest]

I noticed my son having a speech delay at 18 months and had to push to get him

help. I researched and got him into early intervention, a speech therapist came

to my home twice a month. I then researched more and found out from Amazon.com

there was a DVD called baby babble 1 and later came baby babble 2, he at age 3.5

is still mesmerized by these DVDs and will imitate the whole DVD...Which is

great for apraxia (as I now learned)

He has been in group speech twice a week though the state, and I have him

enrolled in private pre-k 2 days a week. He is doing great, he has went from

just a few words to whole complete sentences in this past year.. but the words

are not correct which is what made me continue to find out what was wrong.. I

had him re-evaluated and he has finally been diagnosed with moderate to severe

apraxia of speech.

He is doing so well and loves to repeat that he is more on the moderate than the

severe end... thanks to the early intervention...he still has a long way to go

but I now have him seeing a private speech therapist (pathologist) once a week

one on one, she also used to be a opera singer and she currently teaching music

vocal and piano, she really loves the speech end of it which is why she got her

masters in speech pathology, anyway we go this week for our second session and I

look forward to it, she is great so far.. Next year when my son is 4, (he will

go to kindergarten at age 6 due to his birthday, so two more years of pre-k,

which is a good thing I think) my son will go to pre-k for 5 days (8-12pm) then

to speech three days a week one on one.. two of the days will be through the

state school system, the other day will be private..

To answer your question, interact with other kids his age, DVD's like baby

babble, and other phonic DVDs. Early intervention, asap.. and speech as much as

you can. Also a sibling that talks clearly has also helped, my older son helps

to teach, but this can also be a friend the same age. I have noticed they really

get interested in listening to other children their age..

PS: BTW: what program on your computer are you using, I have heard a few

websites like starfall are good, but do you actually have a program? let me know

thanks..

>

> Ways helpd your child to talk. Why i ask this is we used for years a computer

did nothing for my son in fact it really was not a help he never talked

words by using it. Then we used signs and he been saying words he signs

here is my problem i have two speech teachers we live in PA the worst place

on earth for eduction they live in the past lol in my area they so far behind

on things that work is sad.

>

> My private speech teacher is wonderful she gone to a workshop by nancy

kaufman she uses the kaufman cards and they working wonders for my son she

uses the say and sign stuff and she uses tactile ideas she uses alot of

multi sensory since my son is apraxia and a sensory and auditory process child.

>

> my school speech uses some sotra of card program and she always trying to

push the computer on my son saying oh no the computer works best not signs and

that other stuff it upsets me why on earth if we seeing say and signs work

and the kaufman cards why would you keep pushing the computer

>

> please share what ways worked the best with your child and what and why do

some push the computer so much thanks nikki

>