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> My son started stuttering in a sudden after a round (3 weeks) of

> Diflucan and Vancomicin four weeks ago. Has anyone experienced

> stuttering? I am very worried, and please let me know if this will go

> away and what I should do. Any supplements or therapies for stuttering?

First, consider that those medications may have wiped out all the gut

flora, and try increasing your probiotics.

They are also hard on the liver, to consider adding milk thistle and

see if that helps.

One of my kids has stuttering issues from viruses and B vitamin

deficiency.

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Hi Dana,

Thank you so much for your help. I am concerned because my son

started stuttering after finishing the three weeks of Vancomycin and

Diflucan. The dosage seems high to me and I searched the Internet

and it says Vancomycin can cause renal, auditory, and central

nervous system (CNS) toxicity

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3689/is_200412/ai_n947219

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For children, the usual dose is 10 mg per kilogram (4.5 mg per

pound) of body weight, up to 125 mg. dose is taken every six hours

for seven to ten days.

http://www.healthtouch.com/bin/EContent_HT/drugShowLfts.asp?

fname=usp0088.htm & title=Vancomycin+Oral & cid=HT

My son is five, weighs 41 pounds. Our doctor prescribed 250mg 3x per

day for three weeks. She used to prescribe 80mg 3x per day for three

weeks and my son did well with the lower dosage.

You message makes me feel better. His stuttering might be a Yeast

problem because we killed the good bacteria. I am going to add GSE

and more probiotics.

Thanks,

Jen

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> > My son started stuttering in a sudden after a round (3 weeks) of

> > Diflucan and Vancomicin four weeks ago. Has anyone experienced

> > stuttering? I am very worried, and please let me know if this

will go

> > away and what I should do. Any supplements or therapies for

stuttering?

>

>

> First, consider that those medications may have wiped out all the

gut

> flora, and try increasing your probiotics.

>

> They are also hard on the liver, to consider adding milk thistle

and

> see if that helps.

>

> One of my kids has stuttering issues from viruses and B vitamin

> deficiency.

>

> Dana

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> You message makes me feel better. His stuttering might be a Yeast

> problem because we killed the good bacteria. I am going to add GSE

> and more probiotics.

Let me know if that works. Good luck.

Dana

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I presume you have NO mercury amalgam dental fillings. Tell us what chelator,

dose, and dosing schedule you are using. How did you change your diet?

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Hi, I'm the mother os an AS child and have recently started

stuttering.

I've never stuttered before. It's unnerving and I " m wondering if anyone

can suggest where it could be coming from or what could be happening? I

just started chelating myself in hopes that it might help and I've

changed my own diet. I don't know what to make of it.

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> Hi, I'm the mother os an AS child and have recently started stuttering.

> I've never stuttered before. It's unnerving and I " m wondering if anyone

> can suggest where it could be coming from or what could be happening?

My #3 has/had a " different " way of stuttering. He would stop on a

word, crinkle up his face for a few seconds, make a great effort, and

then say the word. [He did not repeat letters/words several times,

just could not get the word out.] This is now almost gone, with

mB12/folic acid/carnitine and vitamin C/lysine. So it required B12

[the other things are for proper absorption of the B12] and anti-virals.

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My #3 has/had a " different " way of stuttering. He would stop on a

word, crinkle up his face for a few seconds, make a great effort, and

then say the word. [He did not repeat letters/words several times,

just could not get the word out.] This is now almost gone, with

mB12/folic acid/carnitine and vitamin C/lysine. So it required B12

[the other things are for proper absorption of the B12] and anti-virals.

==>This is more like " word retrieval " problems, we had these early on and they

were resolved with chelation.

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I recently asked about my own sudden stuttering. In addition to Dana's

suggestions (which I am using), someone suggested B-1 for treating

word-retrieval problems. My stuttering is greatly improved, but not yet

gone.

HTH/good luck,

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> I presume you have NO mercury amalgam dental fillings. Tell us what

chelator, dose, and dosing schedule you are using. How did you change

your diet?

> S S

I'm doing DMSA every 4 hours, 4 days on/3 off and have put myself on a

low oxalate/gluten free diet. I had all of my amalgams (16) removed

nearly 3 years ago.

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> My #3 has/had a " different " way of stuttering. He would stop on a

> word, crinkle up his face for a few seconds, make a great effort, and

> then say the word. [He did not repeat letters/words several times,

> just could not get the word out.] This is now almost gone, with

> mB12/folic acid/carnitine and vitamin C/lysine. So it required B12

> [the other things are for proper absorption of the B12] and

anti-virals.

>

> ==>This is more like " word retrieval " problems, we had these early

on and they were resolved with chelation.

He does it even while he is reading and knows the word that he

stutters on. Is that still word retrieval?

Chelation did not resolve this, but the B12, vitamin C, and lysine

have been very good for it.

Dana

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> ==>This is more like " word retrieval " problems, we had these early

on and they were resolved with chelation.

He does it even while he is reading and knows the word that he

stutters on. Is that still word retrieval?

===>Yes, that is " classic " word retrieval, less serious is when you are

searching for the word in your head, but can't find it. There is a disconnect,

if you will, or the brain neurons are not firing correctly or in the right

order. When the neurons are unimpeded by metals and healthy, particularly for

kids and young people, the words should flow smoothly, effortlessly. As we get

older we do notice an increase in word retrieval problems, but this should never

happen in a healthy child.

I have heard of some kids who were never chelated but considered recovered by

their parents on antivirals who continued to have this word retrieval problem.

IMHO, this is a function of metal/mercury poisoning and I'm saying this to

myself as we had a round not long ago where this problem came back temporarily

for an afternoon and we haven't seen this word retrieval problem for over a

year. Used to be a weekly occurrence. I consider this proof that she is not

done with chelation.

Chelation did not resolve this, but the B12, vitamin C, and lysine

have been very good for it.

Dana

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Re: [ ] Re: Stuttering

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> ==>This is more like " word retrieval " problems, we had these early

on and they were resolved with chelation.

He does it even while he is reading and knows the word that he

stutters on. Is that still word retrieval?

===>Yes, that is " classic " word retrieval, less serious is when you are

searching for the word in your head, but can't find it. There is a disconnect,

if you will, or the brain neurons are not firing correctly or in the right

order. When the neurons are unimpeded by metals and healthy, particularly for

kids and young people, the words should flow smoothly, effortlessly. As we get

older we do notice an increase in word retrieval problems, but this should never

happen in a healthy child.

I have heard of some kids who were never chelated but considered recovered by

their parents on antivirals who continued to have this word retrieval problem.

IMHO, this is a function of metal/mercury poisoning and I'm saying this to

myself as we had a round not long ago where this problem came back temporarily

for an afternoon and we haven't seen this word retrieval problem for over a

year. Used to be a weekly occurrence. I consider this proof that she is not

done with chelation.

Chelation did not resolve this, but the B12, vitamin C, and lysine

have been very good for it.

Dana

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> He does it even while he is reading and knows the word that he

> stutters on. Is that still word retrieval?

>

> ===>Yes, that is " classic " word retrieval, less serious is when

you are searching for the word in your head, but can't find it.

Over the weekend I noticed some problems that #2 and #3 were having,

so yesterday I reduced the folic acid again. The reduction did

address the problems, and last night when #3 was reading the bedtime

story [we rotate who gets to read it], this word retrieval/stuttering

problem was significantly reduced from its already reduced state.

Because when my kids no longer need a supplement, it tends to cause

the same problems as it at first eliminated, I think it was the folic

acid [perhaps in combination with other things] that was the greatest

factor in addressing this for my son. Folic acid " appears " to be a

greater factor in language acquisition for my kids than even the mB12.

Dana

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My daughter was beginning to have problems with stuttering. She was getting very frustrated, even at times to the point of tears. So I tested her with the wonderful EPFX and she reacted to the the temporal lobe--which controls your speech. I had to balance that out repeatedly, and also put "stuttering" in disease dictionary on long term . I believe I also may have run the EEG. That was over 2 years ago and she has had no relapse. I'm so happy that we caught it right away. By the way--this was all done wireless as well. I hope this helps.

Leah

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Stuttering is not related to AS but a person with AS could have a problem stuttering. I would probably watch it for a little bit and see if it's not a short term issue. If it keeps being a problem, if it starts causing him a lot of anxiety and stress, then you should contact a ST to work with him. Stress itself can cause stuttering but the problem is, the child (stutterer) still needs to learn ways of handling it. They have some very good methods of dealing with stuttering now. My dd stutters and she went to ST for several years to learn and practice her skills to overcome it. I must say I was so pleased and impressed at how well she has done.

Age 3 is also an age where some stuttering might be happening. I forget the reason they say that - I just remember them telling me that when my own dd was that age. They said it was a stage and she would outgrow it. But you have to rely on what you feel as well. We have a family history of stuttering and I felt, due to that, that is was not just a passing thing. It kind of came and went over the following years but eventually, we got help for it and I'm glad we did. You might contact a ST and find out what they think! Let us know how it's going!!

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Hi I am a mother to three children, my two boys have asperger's. My oldest is almost 8. My youngest son is 3, in the last 2 days he has been stuttering. Not just a little bit but so badly that he can hardly tell us what he wants to say. He is getting very frustrated with it. It worries me because literally 2 days ago he spoke well and could communicate his thoughts and feeling quite clearly. I am wondering if this has anything to do with asd. My oldest son has no difficulty but of course no two chidren are alike. I am just wondering if anyone else has experienced this or knows if the two are related (stuttering and asperger's)Thanks

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I went to the glenrose today to see the specialist for my oldest son,

(reg. 6 month check on how things are going with meds and school

etc.) while I was there I asked the Dr. about the stuttering in my

youngest son. She said that sometimes stuttering and aspergers come

together because for whatever reason tourette's syndrome, adhd and

ocd and asperger's are all linked and can come in combintions. She

suspects that my youngest son has both asperger's and tourettes and

that the stuttering is a tick as a result of the tourette's. She is

having him booked to see a pre-school child psych. for evaluation

and dx. Thank you for your replies. I would look forward to hearing

any more advice or stories. I am not very familiar with tourette's.

I know that my son has started doing a few noises with his mouth

like tongue clicking while talking and he crosses and uncrosses his

fingers alot. Mostly when he is talking or concentrating. If anyone

can relate or impart some wisdom it would be most appreciated.

Thanks,

>

> Stuttering is not related to AS but a person with AS could have a

problem stuttering. I would probably watch it for a little bit and

see if it's not a short term issue. If it keeps being a problem, if

it starts causing him a lot of anxiety and stress, then you should

contact a ST to work with him. Stress itself can cause stuttering

but the problem is, the child (stutterer) still needs to learn ways

of handling it. They have some very good methods of dealing with

stuttering now. My dd stutters and she went to ST for several years

to learn and practice her skills to overcome it. I must say I was

so pleased and impressed at how well she has done.

>

> Age 3 is also an age where some stuttering might be happening. I

forget the reason they say that - I just remember them telling me

that when my own dd was that age. They said it was a stage and she

would outgrow it. But you have to rely on what you feel as well.

We have a family history of stuttering and I felt, due to that, that

is was not just a passing thing. It kind of came and went over the

following years but eventually, we got help for it and I'm glad we

did. You might contact a ST and find out what they think! Let us

know how it's going!!

>

> Roxanna

> You're Unique

> Just like everyone else...

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> Hi I am a mother to three children, my two boys have asperger's.

My

> oldest is almost 8. My youngest son is 3, in the last 2 days he

has

> been stuttering. Not just a little bit but so badly that he can

hardly

> tell us what he wants to say. He is getting very frustrated with

it.

> It worries me because literally 2 days ago he spoke well and

could

> communicate his thoughts and feeling quite clearly. I am

wondering if

> this has anything to do with asd. My oldest son has no

difficulty but

> of course no two chidren are alike. I am just wondering if

anyone else

> has experienced this or knows if the two are related (stuttering

and

> asperger's)

> Thanks

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If it is TS, then you might like reading information at this site --> http://www.tourettesyndrome.net/

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( ) Stuttering> > > Hi I am a mother to three children, my two boys have asperger's. My > oldest is almost 8. My youngest son is 3, in the last 2 days he has > been stuttering. Not just a little bit but so badly that he can hardly > tell us what he wants to say. He is getting very frustrated with it. > It worries me because literally 2 days ago he spoke well and could > communicate his thoughts and feeling quite clearly. I am wondering if > this has anything to do with asd. My oldest son has no difficulty but > of course no two chidren are alike. I am just wondering if anyone else > has experienced this or knows if the two are related (stuttering and > asperger's)> Thanks > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.19/1664 - Release Date: 9/10/2008 6:00 AM>

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In June of this year my son started having vocal tics and now this fall it seems to be moving to motor tics. He's done things repetitively in the past, but not quite like this. I'm discussing it with his psychiatrist at our next appointment. Bring on more challenges!

( ) Stuttering> > > Hi I am a mother to three children, my two boys have asperger's. My > oldest is almost 8. My youngest son is 3, in the last 2 days he has > been stuttering. Not just a little bit but so badly that he can hardly > tell us what he wants to say. He is getting very frustrated with it. > It worries me because literally 2 days ago he spoke well and could > communicate his thoughts and feeling quite clearly. I am wondering if > this has anything to do with asd. My oldest son has no difficulty but > of course no two chidren are alike. I am just wondering if anyone else > has experienced this or knows if the two are related (stuttering and >

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But do you think that is stuttering or a tic? I know I have struggled with that question. I have friends who have kids with TS and they don't know the answer to this. And no matter the cause, if it were TS, would you still need ST for it or would medication for tics make it stop?

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( ) Stuttering> > > Hi I am a mother to three children, my two boys have asperger's. My > oldest is almost 8. My youngest son is 3, in the last 2 days he has > been stuttering. Not just a little bit but so badly that he can hardly > tell us what he wants to say. He is getting very frustrated with it. > It worries me because literally 2 days ago he spoke well and could > communicate his thoughts and feeling quite clearly. I am wondering if > this has anything to do with asd. My oldest son has no difficulty but > of course no two chidren are alike. I am just wondering if anyone else > has experienced this or knows if the two are related (stuttering and > asperger's)> Thanks > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ------------> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.19/1664 - Release Date: 9/10/2008 6:00 AM>

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It's not stuttering, it's definitely a tic. Since this just presented itself over the summer, I've been watching and waiting. I'm very hesitant to medicate at all for anything so meds wouldn't be my first choice. But I'm not crossing anything off the list. I'd rather try CBT or something similar first.

( ) Stuttering> > > Hi I am a mother to three children, my two boys have asperger's. My > oldest is almost 8. My youngest son is 3, in the last 2 days he has > been stuttering. Not just a little bit but so badly that he can hardly > tell us what he wants to say. He is getting very frustrated with it. > It worries me because literally 2 days ago he spoke well and could > communicate his thoughts and feeling quite clearly. I am wondering if > this has anything to do with asd. My oldest son has no difficulty but > of course no two chidren are alike. I am just wondering if anyone else > has experienced this or knows if the two are related (stuttering and >

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How do you know it's a tic and not stuttering? I've never been able to figure this one out.

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( ) Stuttering> > > Hi I am a mother to three children, my two boys have asperger's. My > oldest is almost 8. My youngest son is 3, in the last 2 days he has > been stuttering. Not just a little bit but so badly that he can hardly > tell us what he wants to say. He is getting very frustrated with it. > It worries me because literally 2 days ago he spoke well and could > communicate his thoughts and feeling quite clearly. I am wondering if > this has anything to do with asd. My oldest son has no difficulty but > of course no two chidren are alike. I am just wondering if anyone else > has experienced this or knows if the two are related (stuttering and > asperger's)> Thanks > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ------------> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.19/1664 - Release Date: 9/10/2008 6:00 AM>

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For the vocal tics, he'll just start making these "bah-bah...bah..." sounds for no apparent reason. We aren't in a conversation or anything, he'll just start making these sounds. I'll ask him to stop (before I figured out it might not be just an easy "please stop" and actually something a little more involved happening) and he would for a handful of seconds, and then start up again. I can tell by the way it's happening that it's super hard for him to have control over it. If someone is stuttering, I think of that as having problems speaking clearly without repeating parts of words over and over again before the whole word comes out. D's vocal tics do not occur as much (rarely) while we're in the middle of talking about something. Now that the vocal tics are

subsiding a little bit, here come the motor tics! But they all (vocal and motor tics) seem to be wrapped around stuff he's learned/played in band. So the Asperger's tie in my eyes is his peseverating on something he's heard or done in band and not being able to let it go. That's why I don't feel like this is true Tourette's syndrome but more tics associated with his Aspergers. Makes sense in my brain, at least . We'll see what the psychiatrist has to say about it. I'll keep you posted.

( ) Stuttering> > > Hi I am a mother to three children, my two boys have asperger's. My > oldest is almost 8. My youngest son is 3, in the last 2 days he has > been stuttering. Not just a little bit but so badly that he can hardly > tell us what he wants to say. He is getting very frustrated with it. > It worries me because literally 2 days ago he spoke well and could > communicate his thoughts and feeling quite clearly. I am wondering if > this has anything to do with asd. My oldest son has no difficulty but > of course no two chidren are alike. I am just wondering if anyone else > has experienced this or knows if the two are related (stuttering and >

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I've read up some on TS but I'm just not convinced he has TS on top of Aspergers. If he does, he just "got" it over the summer. I do feel that TS is separate from Aspergers, but like impulsivity in Aspergers kids is similar to ADHD symptoms, I more feel like Dylan's tics are related to his Aspergers in that it's repetitive behavior over and over again. I don't know if I'm clear enough with how I'm explaining it though? Dylan has these moments where he'll say the same phrase over and over again or he'll repeat a Sponge Bob episode over and over again or we do this thing where he says "how much do you love me?" and I'll say the same answer and we'll do this over and over again. If I don't say it right, he'll remind me how to say it sometimes. He likes "same"

and he likes repeating it. Almost helps him feel calm it seems? But it ebbs and flows. The "how much do you love me" is now leaving us (after daily or multiple times per day for months) and in place, we have these motor tics. We've started doing this new thing where he coughs and I say "coughing is not allowed", just playful stuff. We laugh, he think it's funny. We are chocked-full-of-humor home, sarcasm, the works.

Does this make any sense?

( ) Stuttering> > > Hi I am a mother to three children, my two boys have asperger's. My > oldest is almost 8. My youngest son is 3, in the last 2 days he has > been stuttering. Not just a little bit but so badly that he can hardly > tell us what he wants to say. He is getting very frustrated with it. > It worries me because literally 2 days ago he spoke well and could > communicate his thoughts and feeling quite clearly. I am wondering if > this has anything to do with asd. My oldest son has no difficulty but > of course no two chidren are alike. I am just wondering if anyone else > has experienced this or knows if the two are related (stuttering and >

asperger's)> Thanks > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ------------> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.19/1664 - Release Date: 9/10/2008 6:00 AM>

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No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.20/1666 - Release Date: 9/11/2008 7:03 AM

No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.20/1666 - Release Date: 9/11/2008 7:03 AM

No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1668 - Release Date: 9/12/2008 6:56 AM

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There are so many reasons for stattering... With my son it alaways

happened if I lowered his B's, especially B6 and MB12 with folic acid.

Also OLE was very important, so probably it was viral related.

Galina

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