DID ANYONE NOT repeat KINDERGARTEN then REPEAT FIRST GRADE

[Guest guest]

DID anyone with older kids then feel like once they caught up in KIndergaren

that your child fell behind again by the end of first grade ,and then moreso by

2nd finding you had to repeat a grade again?I'm now trying to weigh out other

options. It seems anyone who decided to hold back at K is happy, but then no one

who has older kids responded, so I'm curious. Cheryl

[Guest guest]

We decided not to have my son repeat Kindergarten because it would have been too

repetitive. Who wants to learn ABCs and 123s over and over again. Instead, we

planned to have him repeat first grade. At the end of this year, he finally

started picking up on first grade work, such as sight words and being able to

write his name. The school is fighting our decision to have him repeat first

grade, but we are used to having to fight for our kids to get what they need,

we'll win

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> DID anyone with older kids then feel like once they caught up in KIndergaren

that your child fell behind again by the end of first grade ,and then moreso by

2nd finding you had to repeat a grade again?I'm now trying to weigh out other

options. It seems anyone who decided to hold back at K is happy, but then no one

who has older kids responded, so I'm curious. Cheryl

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> > DID anyone with older kids then feel like once they caught up in

KIndergaren that your child fell behind again by the end of first grade ,and

then moreso by 2nd finding you had to repeat a grade again?I'm now trying to

weigh out other options. It seems anyone who decided to hold back at K is happy,

but then no one who has older kids responded, so I'm curious. Cheryl

I don't agree that Kindergarten is just ABC'S and 123's. My son's first year in

kindergarten he couldn't even remember his numbers and letters. I held him back

with the SAME teacher, with lots of teacher's and the Principal not agreeing

with my decision, and now they agree that I was right all along. He blossomed

over the summer, and is now reading small books!!! He can count by ten's, count

money, write well,etc. He still has some trouble, however b/c of his severe

apraxia, but I believe that it truely helped him. I should add that he was the

baby of the class b/c of his b-day, so that weighed heavily on my decision.

Every child is so different. I have several kids in my class (1st grade) this

year that are retainees that are still struggling, and my heart breaks for them,

but with a good special ed teacher, it could work out. He gets pulled every day

for that and 4 x's a week for speech. Good luck to you and your baby. It is soo

hard on us, and a daily challenge, because he KNOWS that people can't undersatnd

him!!

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[Guest guest]

If you hang around schools long enough, you will see there are some teachers and

aides that are still teaching older kids with disabilities their letters,

numbers, and colors. I believe 99% of these kids should have moved on from

these subjects and deserve to move on.

I was only pointing out " who wants to learn ABCs and 123s over and over " because

I have seen so many instances where teacher's aides assume a child with ASD

doesn't know things (because they can't communicate it) when they are actually

very aware and intelligent and are unfortunately bored with the lessons.

I'm glad repeating kindergarten worked well for your son, it did for my older

son too. My younger son would have been bored, so we decided on repeating first

grade for him. You are right, every child is different.

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> > > DID anyone with older kids then feel like once they caught up in

KIndergaren that your child fell behind again by the end of first grade ,and

then moreso by 2nd finding you had to repeat a grade again?I'm now trying to

weigh out other options. It seems anyone who decided to hold back at K is happy,

but then no one who has older kids responded, so I'm curious. Cheryl

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> I don't agree that Kindergarten is just ABC'S and 123's. My son's first year

in kindergarten he couldn't even remember his numbers and letters. I held him

back with the SAME teacher, with lots of teacher's and the Principal not

agreeing with my decision, and now they agree that I was right all along. He

blossomed over the summer, and is now reading small books!!! He can count by

ten's, count money, write well,etc. He still has some trouble, however b/c of

his severe apraxia, but I believe that it truely helped him. I should add that

he was the baby of the class b/c of his b-day, so that weighed heavily on my

decision. Every child is so different. I have several kids in my class (1st

grade) this year that are retainees that are still struggling, and my heart

breaks for them, but with a good special ed teacher, it could work out. He gets

pulled every day for that and 4 x's a week for speech. Good luck to you and your

baby. It is soo hard on us, and a daily challenge, because he KNOWS that people

can't undersatnd him!!

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[Guest guest]

thanks for the replies.My daughter does know abc's,123, and is starting to read

simple books--BUT her stategies for reading new words fall apart at times, and

as for counting past 20, or knowing coins and counting by 10, simple addition..

wellshe gets it some days ,then like her speech, it's difficult and it's like

she doesn't get it at all.It's for the " apraxic " reason I don't think repeating

kindergarten won't help beause probably forever she wil have these times that

things fall apart(?), so like your one response, I feel we should keep her

moving. BUT also as you said, good luck with your baby ,I realized this is going

to be haunting me all summer because I just want to protect my baby. Cheryl-

-- In , " capetalker " <capetalker@...> wrote:

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> DID anyone with older kids then feel like once they caught up in KIndergaren

that your child fell behind again by the end of first grade ,and then moreso by

2nd finding you had to repeat a grade again?I'm now trying to weigh out other

options. It seems anyone who decided to hold back at K is happy, but then no one

who has older kids responded, so I'm curious. Cheryl

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[Guest guest]

Hi Cheryl, I think what is best for our kids at this age is that they are in the

right grade where they can both socially relate to kids and be integrated into

the regular ed. classroom because the academics are at (or very close to) their

level. There is no sense in worrying about what is going to happen in the

future, you just want the child to be with the right peers and be able to have

as much time with them as possible learning WITH them.

In my experience, this integration time is PRICELESS. My son has learned more

language and typical behaviors this year than ever (first grade) because he was

allowed to spend time on the playground and in the classroom with peers. Don't

fret about the academics, peer pressure is amazing - and no, it won't solve

learning disabilities, but it sure does motivate them to be interested.

Let me tell you about my older son. He repeated kindergarten because I felt his

first year was wasted (in a restricted environment) and on top of it, he was one

of the youngest in his grade. Our problems didn't end when he repeated the

grade, but it was certainly the right choice. In first grade, I had to help the

private school teacher adapt her teaching to him (at least she was willing).

In second grade he went to a public school because we moved and could no longer

afford private school. His second grade teacher refused to acknowledge his

auditory processing difficulties (I'm sure she didn't even read the handouts I

gave her) and she didn't want to modify anything for him (I asked her to put a

written list/schedule on his desk and she thought this would not work). At his

first conference, she could only talk about negative things about him, " he's

disorganized " , " he doesn't listen " . When we asked her what his strengths were,

to our amazement, she said, " I can't think of any " !!!!

That day, I pulled him out to homeschool him and continued through third grade.

In fourth grade, I decided he was ready for public school again and needed some

social interaction (there wasn't a homeschool group or anything in our area). I

picked the teacher other parents said was " messy and disorganized, and I would

NEVER get that one " ...and he was GREAT!! At our first conference, he went

through every subject and discussed strengths and weaknesses with me, then he

read me his favorite story had written - with a big smile on his face.

ALL it takes most the time is for someone to love them, for someone to care

enough to put a little extra effort in. My son had problems again in fifth

grade, another idiot teacher, but I moved him to another school, another

teacher, and everything was great again!

I can't tell you that all this wasn't a pain in the a--, because it was, but it

is sooo worth it to find the right situation for your child. I think that your

only concerns at this point should be whether she is at the right

social/academic level to be able to participate in the LEAST restrictive

environment and that the teacher CARES about helping her and wants her to

succeed.

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> > DID anyone with older kids then feel like once they caught up in

KIndergaren that your child fell behind again by the end of first grade ,and

then moreso by 2nd finding you had to repeat a grade again?I'm now trying to

weigh out other options. It seems anyone who decided to hold back at K is happy,

but then no one who has older kids responded, so I'm curious. Cheryl

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[Guest guest]

Hi ...This is a very helpful and motivational post. I know it wasn't

written to me but if you don't mind I will take the advice anyway. ) Good

luck to you too Cheryl.

Aggie

[Guest guest]

great advice , What I like is that you didn't let yourself feel

powerless or scared.When it didn't work you changed it. I have to remind myself

that it's never final.You're right about the social--she wants to be like

everyone else,and sees herself no different. thanks Cheryl-

-- In , " Soliday "

<elizabethsoliday@...> wrote:

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> Hi Cheryl, I think what is best for our kids at this age is that they are in

the right grade where they can both socially relate to kids and be integrated

into the regular ed. classroom because the academics are at (or very close to)

their level. There is no sense in worrying about what is going to happen in the

future, you just want the child to be with the right peers and be able to have

as much time with them as possible learning WITH them.

>

> In my experience, this integration time is PRICELESS. My son has learned more

language and typical behaviors this year than ever (first grade) because he was

allowed to spend time on the playground and in the classroom with peers. Don't

fret about the academics, peer pressure is amazing - and no, it won't solve

learning disabilities, but it sure does motivate them to be interested.

>

> Let me tell you about my older son. He repeated kindergarten because I felt

his first year was wasted (in a restricted environment) and on top of it, he was

one of the youngest in his grade. Our problems didn't end when he repeated the

grade, but it was certainly the right choice. In first grade, I had to help the

private school teacher adapt her teaching to him (at least she was willing).

>

> In second grade he went to a public school because we moved and could no

longer afford private school. His second grade teacher refused to acknowledge

his auditory processing difficulties (I'm sure she didn't even read the handouts

I gave her) and she didn't want to modify anything for him (I asked her to put a

written list/schedule on his desk and she thought this would not work). At his

first conference, she could only talk about negative things about him, " he's

disorganized " , " he doesn't listen " . When we asked her what his strengths were,

to our amazement, she said, " I can't think of any " !!!!

>

> That day, I pulled him out to homeschool him and continued through third

grade. In fourth grade, I decided he was ready for public school again and

needed some social interaction (there wasn't a homeschool group or anything in

our area). I picked the teacher other parents said was " messy and disorganized,

and I would NEVER get that one " ...and he was GREAT!! At our first conference,

he went through every subject and discussed strengths and weaknesses with me,

then he read me his favorite story had written - with a big smile on his

face.

>

> ALL it takes most the time is for someone to love them, for someone to care

enough to put a little extra effort in. My son had problems again in fifth

grade, another idiot teacher, but I moved him to another school, another

teacher, and everything was great again!

>

> I can't tell you that all this wasn't a pain in the a--, because it was, but

it is sooo worth it to find the right situation for your child. I think that

your only concerns at this point should be whether she is at the right

social/academic level to be able to participate in the LEAST restrictive

environment and that the teacher CARES about helping her and wants her to

succeed.

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> > > DID anyone with older kids then feel like once they caught up in

KIndergaren that your child fell behind again by the end of first grade ,and

then moreso by 2nd finding you had to repeat a grade again?I'm now trying to

weigh out other options. It seems anyone who decided to hold back at K is happy,

but then no one who has older kids responded, so I'm curious. Cheryl

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