Vitamin E Question

[Guest guest]

Honestly, I wouldn't recommend either product.

The synthetic form of Vitamin E that you have, the D alpha tocopheryl

succinate is a terrible anti-oxidant. It is very stable which is good for shelf

life but not good as a free radical scavenger which is the whole point of buying

the product.

The natural mixed tocopherol is perfect except for 1 problem. The

manufacturer left some wheat germ oil in it. It's much cheaper to process it

and leave in some soy or wheat. But that means most of the vit E is already

used up in the process of keeping the wheat germ oil from going rancid. So you

get a great source of wheat germ oil and a poor source of vit E.

I'm sure there are other products out there that have a natural mixed

tocopherol with no oil in it but the only one I found is Unique E vitamin E. It

made a huge difference for us within just one week. Also another list mate

emailed me with big changes after taking this as well. By the way, if you get

a good source of vit E, I would give at least 400iu for every 40lb and some

extra.

Sheri Wang

Message: 23

Date: Wed May 31, 2006 8:44 am (PDT)

From: " aedape4 " aedape4@...

Subject: Vitamin E question

Hello everyone,

I have a quick Q regarding vitamin E supplementation. What form is

the best to use? I have two bottles here, one is by Solgar Natural Liquid

Vitamin E, a mixed tocopherol complex with wheat germ oil (may be a

problem with Gluten issues, but I think my son is good with them, not sure

though) - why did the guy at the healthfood store recommended this? He

did not really explain....

The other form I have is dry vitamin E sugra, salt and starch free,

by Solgar, by the hfs guy said not to use the dry form unless it was

specifically recommended. Is it? These capsules contain Vit E in the

D-alpha tocopheryl succinate form.

Pls advise as to which form may be best to use, and how much do I

need to do if I am supplementing with CLO as well? And why?

Thanks in advance!!

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[Guest guest]

>

> I bought a Twinlab vitamin E supplent with these other ingredients:

>

> Other ingredients: Cellulose, magnesium silicate, gelatin,

> croscarmellose sodium, purified water, silica, magnesium staerate,

> MCT, crospovidone.

>

> Is this okay according to the diet?

==>Yes, it is okay. Would you please put your name at the end of your

messages for our blind member, Maddalena?? Thanks so much.

Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi,

> Can anyone recomend a good vitamin E brand to buy without the soy?

>

> Matt

==>Yes, buy Natural Factors brand Clear Base Vitamin E 400 IU per

capsule. If your health store carries any Natural Factor products and

they do not carry it on their shelves you can have them order it for

you.

Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> I have dry Vitamin E (as d-alpha-tophoeryl succinate) from Solgar. It

says

> that it's free of soy but I thought Solgar said they derive it from

soy but

> there is no soy left in the finished product. Could this really be

true that

> it's derived from soy but the end product is " soy free " ?

==>Yes, that is true. Dr. Mercola says there is none of the bad stuff

from soy in vitamin E products. I just don't like to support the soy

industry, so I buy Clear Base or Dry Base Vitamin E instead.

Bee

[Guest guest]

==>Yes, that is true. Dr. Mercola says there is none of the bad stuff

>from soy in vitamin E products. I just don't like to support the soy

>industry, so I buy Clear Base or Dry Base Vitamin E instead.

>Bee

Hmmm, this is a dry base Vitamin E. Maybe it was a different supplement

company I talked to about their Vitamin E.

I am also feeling better today. The pain is now very, very minimal and I am

hoping it will continue to improve at least for a little while. Tomorrow I

am adding the Vitamin A and then I am on all the supplements. My fat intake

is up to about 140 grams again - my minimum is 185 grams so I am getting

there. If all goes well, I will start adding coconut oil and palm oil slowly

next week.

Thank you for all your help. :-)

a

[Guest guest]

Way to go a! You'll be a sassy diva in no time! LOL!

Luv, Bee

>

> ==>Yes, that is true. Dr. Mercola says there is none of the bad

stuff

> >from soy in vitamin E products. I just don't like to support the

soy

> >industry, so I buy Clear Base or Dry Base Vitamin E instead.

>

> >Bee

>

> Hmmm, this is a dry base Vitamin E. Maybe it was a different

supplement

> company I talked to about their Vitamin E.

>

> I am also feeling better today. The pain is now very, very minimal

and I am

> hoping it will continue to improve at least for a little while.

Tomorrow I

> am adding the Vitamin A and then I am on all the supplements. My

fat intake

> is up to about 140 grams again - my minimum is 185 grams so I am

getting

> there. If all goes well, I will start adding coconut oil and palm

oil slowly

> next week.

>

> Thank you for all your help. :-)

[Guest guest]

I think a is ALREADY a sassy diva!!

Doug

>

> Way to go a! You'll be a sassy diva in no time! LOL!

>

[Guest guest]

>I think a is ALREADY a sassy diva!!

>Doug

>

> Way to go a! You'll be a sassy diva in no time! LOL!

>

Thank you both - now I just wish I FELT like a sassy Diva. This morning I

feel worse again, but mornings tend to be the hardest, and it's mostly my

head. The headache seems to be getting worse but I've also had a toothache

on a crowned tooth (not a root canal) since last week Wednesday. I have had

problems with this tooth beginning of last year and had to have the crown

replaced. Maybe I am retracing symptoms!? I have a dentist appt. Tuesday

morning to make there's not a cavity under the crown. If everything looks

good then I guess I am going to assume it's retracing of symptoms.

I am also getting a massage this afternoon from a friend who is on her last

leg of massage therapy school. With all the pain, die-off, new job, etc. I

am sure I have some tension in my back as well.

a

[Guest guest]

Hi Bee,

Is this only true for dry or clear base, or for all vitamin E products

made from soy? My mom is going to start the diet soon (yeah) and has

a lot of vitamin E that is soy derived, but not clear base. I would

hate to tell her to throw it out, if it is still good.

Jecca

> > --- " a K. Carlton " <kristina.carlton@> wrote:

> > I have dry Vitamin E (as d-alpha-tophoeryl succinate) from Solgar.

> > It says that it's free of soy but I thought Solgar said they

> > derive it from soy but there is no soy left in the finished

> > product. Could this really be true that it's derived from soy

> > but the end product is " soy free " ?

> >

--- " Bee " <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote:

> ==>Yes, that is true. Dr. Mercola says there is none of the

> bad stuff from soy in vitamin E products. I just don't like

> to support the soy industry, so I buy Clear Base or Dry Base

> Vitamin E instead.

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee,

>

> Is this only true for dry or clear base, or for all vitamin E

products

> made from soy? My mom is going to start the diet soon (yeah) and

has

> a lot of vitamin E that is soy derived, but not clear base. I would

> hate to tell her to throw it out, if it is still good.

==>I don't know for sure. Since Natural Factors started making

vitamin E derived from soy I've tried it and it does not cause me to

react like other soy products do. But like I've written before, I do

not like to support the soy industry so I buy Clear Base vitamin E

instead.

I do not know how they derive vitamin E from soybean oil. Soybean

oil itself is damaging, but " how " the vitamin E is extracted might be

the question. If there a standard way of deriving the vitamin E from

soybean oil it might be okay. I cannot answer those questions.

Maybe someone else has the time to research this.

Cheers, Bee

[Guest guest]

Thanks Bee, for the response. I couldn't find much on it myself so

that's why I asked. I'm of the mind, though, that it's much better to

be safe than sorry anyway, so we'll just get new stuff. Thanks again. " )

Jecca

--- " Bee " <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote:

==>I don't know for sure. Since Natural Factors started making

vitamin E derived from soy I've tried it and it does not cause me to

react like other soy products do. But like I've written before, I do

not like to support the soy industry so I buy Clear Base vitamin E

> instead. I do not know how they derive vitamin E from soybean oil.

Soybean oil itself is damaging, but " how " the vitamin E is extracted

might be the question. If there a standard way of deriving the

vitamin E from soybean oil it might be okay. I cannot answer those

questions. Maybe someone else has the time to research this...

[Guest guest]

Hi Bee and Jecca,

I have Jarrow Dry E-400. It says nothing about soy on the bottle, the

only " other ingredients " are cellulose, calcium stearate, stearic

acid, magnesium stearate, and silicon dioxide. Gelatin capsule.

Contains no common allergen. I tried calling this morning, but they

are Pacific Time, I'm Eastern, so they were just waking up =).

janilea

[Guest guest]

>

>

> Hi Bee and Jecca,

> I have Jarrow Dry E-400. It says nothing about soy on the bottle, the

> only " other ingredients " are cellulose, calcium stearate, stearic

> acid, magnesium stearate, and silicon dioxide. Gelatin capsule.

> Contains no common allergen. I tried calling this morning, but they

> are Pacific Time, I'm Eastern, so they were just waking up =).

> janilea

==>If it doesn't state on the bottle that it contains no soy, then it

is derived from soy. But it is better to call them. Let us know.

Bee

[Guest guest]

> ==>If it doesn't state on the bottle that it contains no soy, then it

> is derived from soy. But it is better to call them. Let us know.

>

> Bee

Bee,

The nutritionist at Jarrow said absolutely NO Soy in the Jarrow Dry

E-400. I did a quick search and it's available at iherb for 10.50 for

100 capsules, but not at vitacost or vitaglo.

HTH, janilea

[Guest guest]

> ==>If it doesn't state on the bottle that it contains no soy, then it

> is derived from soy. But it is better to call them. Let us know.

>

> Bee

Hi All,

I had called Natural Factors to ask about their Vit E prior to this

discussion. After reading the posts, I called them back to confirm

what I thought they had said. They told me that all of their Vit E is

derived from soy, including the clear base. And that they didn't know

of a vit E product that wasn't made from soy. But their Clear Base is

so ultra-purified that absolutely no soy remains. I think their

concern is for people who want to avoid soy for " soy allergy " reasons.

Natural Factors also has a " non-GMO " vit E, but right now there Clear

Base is not derived from non-GMO soy.

They said that some of their other Vit E products now have to say (due

to new regulations) that they contain soy since they are derived from

soy, even though they test as not having soy. I don't know why the

Clear Base doesn't have to say this, except they stressed how ultra-

purified it is. When I called back to confirm that the Clear Base was

derived from soy, I forgot to ask why it doesn't have to say " contains

soy " like the others do.

I told them that I'd like a Clear Base Vit E that was derived from non-

GMO soy.

[Guest guest]

Another question about Vitamin E. I have Solaray Dry Vitamin and I know realise

that ingredients include whole rice concentrate. Can that feed yeast?

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[Guest guest]

, thank you so much for calling Natural Factors. I had no idea

that Clear Base was derived from soy; my bottle does state it is Non-

GMO. I guess there is no way to get around the soy industry unless

we get vitamin E from wheat germ oil and it needs to be Non-GMO too.

The question would be whether it contains gluten.

Bee

> > ==>If it doesn't state on the bottle that it contains no soy,

then it

> > is derived from soy. But it is better to call them. Let us know.

> >

> > Bee

>

> Hi All,

>

> I had called Natural Factors to ask about their Vit E prior to this

> discussion. After reading the posts, I called them back to confirm

> what I thought they had said. They told me that all of their Vit E

is

> derived from soy, including the clear base. And that they didn't

know

> of a vit E product that wasn't made from soy. But their Clear Base

is

> so ultra-purified that absolutely no soy remains. I think their

> concern is for people who want to avoid soy for " soy allergy "

reasons.

> Natural Factors also has a " non-GMO " vit E, but right now there

Clear

> Base is not derived from non-GMO soy.

>

> They said that some of their other Vit E products now have to say

(due

> to new regulations) that they contain soy since they are derived

from

> soy, even though they test as not having soy. I don't know why the

> Clear Base doesn't have to say this, except they stressed how ultra-

> purified it is. When I called back to confirm that the Clear Base

was

> derived from soy, I forgot to ask why it doesn't have to

say " contains

> soy " like the others do.

>

> I told them that I'd like a Clear Base Vit E that was derived from

non-> GMO soy.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Another question about Vitamin E. I have Solaray Dry Vitamin and I

know realise that ingredients include whole rice concentrate. Can that

feed yeast?

==>I do not know what whole rice concentrate is. Maybe it does not

include the starch found in rice? Also, is it a main ingredient? Can

you provide a link?

Bee

[Guest guest]

I am not able to take Vitamin E unless it is in the dry tablet, E-Pherol from

Vitaline without soy. I get it from www.ritecare.com pharmacy.

[Guest guest]

This is interesting. I thought dry or clear base was recommended

because they were the least contaminated by bad soy enzymes. This was

because when I did a search about 5 months ago, looking for a dry or

clear base vitamin E (non soy sourced), I was told by three different

stores and two different manufacturers that there is no product like

that available. At that point I just figured dry or clear base was

recommended due to how it is processed, and therefore is as free of as

many bad soy enzymes as possible. I guess I should have asked. I

checked the one that a mentioned (in a different post) but the

web site just said that is was vegetable oil sourced. I would be

curious, has anyone called Vitaline to verify that it is NOT soy sourced?

Jecca

--- " Bee " <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote:

, thank you so much for calling Natural Factors. I had no idea

that Clear Base was derived from soy; my bottle does state it is Non-

GMO. I guess there is no way to get around the soy industry unless we

get vitamin E from wheat germ oil and it needs to be Non-GMO too. The

question would be whether it contains gluten.

[Guest guest]

>

> I have been taking twinlab E-400 caps which are d-alpha tocopheryl

> succinate. When I went to the store yesterday they were out of it.

The only

> dry form they had was a brand that had mixed tocopheryls. I wonder if

it

> matters as long as they are the " d " form and not " dl " form.

==>Irene, yes they are okay as long as they are not the " dl " form.

Cheers, Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi I have added Vit E to the Nordic Natural that we were already giving

our son - He is irritable and screamy - we have been doing this for 1

week, we are seeing some gains in articulation - How long should I hang

in there to with the irritability to see if he will benefit from this

supplement. Thanks for any input - Becky

[Guest guest]

I use 400 IUs. I wouldn't go below 200 IUs unless you are having tolerance

problems.

Pam

>

> For those of you using vitamin E what is the dosage? Our DAN! prescribed

> 200 IU which comes out to 35 drops and we go through it very fast so I

> wanted to make sure I'm not OD'ing...

> Thanks,

> Leah

>

>

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