Re: need some help re contracting out to get funding for private school

[Guest guest]

I thought you had to stay in district until the child is of school age. Let me

know if you get the school to fund the private school. We are having are meeting

today to see what the school is going to give my daughter. What state are you

in?

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Hi everyone. I am the process of getting ready to try to get my public school

district to contract out with the oral auditory school that my daughter has been

going to (and progressing amazingly through.)This contracting out will allow the

public school to give the funding that they receive for my daughter to the

private school so that I don't have to pay for it all out of pocket. I am

getting the paperwork together to prove that apraxic children do best with daily

therapy and that this oral auditory school offers. I also have a SLP who is

willing to validate this and go to any meetings as needed. My question is..for

those of your who have experienced going through this sort of situation, where

should I start??

From the paperwork I have read it seems like I should call an IEP meeting and

say that I don't feel that my daughter's needs are being met through the public

school system. Right now she gets 1 hr a week of speech with no oral motor and

the therapist- although very nice- isn't experienced with apraxia. My daughter

is 3 so she hasn't started public school as of yet, but I don't want to put her

there and possibly cause set backs when she is doing so well at the other

school. could this be a problem in trying to get the funds since she has never

attended public school at all yet? Right now I just drive her to the therapy

appts.

Other friends of mine who work in the educational arena are saying I should go

directly to the head of the district and deal directly with him.

Anyone have any ideas on how I should best handle this??

thank you for any help you can give me on this.!

[Guest guest]

You said, " I am getting the paperwork together to prove that apraxic children do

best with daily therapy and that this oral auditory school offers. " That is

good, but try to remove the word " best " from your vocabulary with the school.

Focus on the fact that the education they are offering/providing is not

" appropriate " and her current placement in the private school is appropriate.

The school is required to provide a free appropriate education in the least

restrictive environment, not the " best " education.

Most likely, they will try to make something appropriate available to her to

avoid having to pay for the private schooling. For you, this may be a good

thing because you have negotiating power to get them to possibly provide some of

the services the private school is providing. You have to keep an open mind and

try to work things out with them or things will backfire. Request what she

needs in writing including what has been working at the other school and if they

refuse, I suggest getting an attorney. I have been through this and it was not

an easy process for us. Good luck!

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> Hi everyone. I am the process of getting ready to try to get my public school

district to contract out with the oral auditory school that my daughter has been

going to (and progressing amazingly through.)This contracting out will allow the

public school to give the funding that they receive for my daughter to the

private school so that I don't have to pay for it all out of pocket. I am

getting the paperwork together to prove that apraxic children do best with daily

therapy and that this oral auditory school offers. I also have a SLP who is

willing to validate this and go to any meetings as needed. My question is..for

those of your who have experienced going through this sort of situation, where

should I start??

> From the paperwork I have read it seems like I should call an IEP meeting and

say that I don't feel that my daughter's needs are being met through the public

school system. Right now she gets 1 hr a week of speech with no oral motor and

the therapist- although very nice- isn't experienced with apraxia. My daughter

is 3 so she hasn't started public school as of yet, but I don't want to put her

there and possibly cause set backs when she is doing so well at the other

school. could this be a problem in trying to get the funds since she has never

attended public school at all yet? Right now I just drive her to the therapy

appts.

> Other friends of mine who work in the educational arena are saying I should go

directly to the head of the district and deal directly with him.

> Anyone have any ideas on how I should best handle this??

> thank you for any help you can give me on this.!

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Thank you for your advice. I will change the way I am wording things If you

don't mind me asking..did you end up having to hire an attorney or were you able

to work with the school to get your child's needs met? Did you approach the IEP

team first or go directly to the head of the district?

Thanks!

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> > Hi everyone. I am the process of getting ready to try to get my public

school district to contract out with the oral auditory school that my daughter

has been going to (and progressing amazingly through.)This contracting out will

allow the public school to give the funding that they receive for my daughter to

the private school so that I don't have to pay for it all out of pocket. I am

getting the paperwork together to prove that apraxic children do best with daily

therapy and that this oral auditory school offers. I also have a SLP who is

willing to validate this and go to any meetings as needed. My question is..for

those of your who have experienced going through this sort of situation, where

should I start??

> > From the paperwork I have read it seems like I should call an IEP meeting

and say that I don't feel that my daughter's needs are being met through the

public school system. Right now she gets 1 hr a week of speech with no oral

motor and the therapist- although very nice- isn't experienced with apraxia. My

daughter is 3 so she hasn't started public school as of yet, but I don't want to

put her there and possibly cause set backs when she is doing so well at the

other school. could this be a problem in trying to get the funds since she has

never attended public school at all yet? Right now I just drive her to the

therapy appts.

> > Other friends of mine who work in the educational arena are saying I should

go directly to the head of the district and deal directly with him.

> > Anyone have any ideas on how I should best handle this??

> > thank you for any help you can give me on this.!

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, I ended up hiring an attorney (it was 5 years ago in Hawaii). Here's the

story:

After a couple weeks in kindergarten, our IEP team had a meeting and we decided

my son (who started out mainstreamed) should be placed in a self-contained

classroom because of his behavior. Immediately after seeing the classroom, I

had a lump in my throat: he was the least severe child there and it seemed a

structureless classroom with various screaming, moaning, stimming, and flapping

behaviors going on all around. My goal was to work hard on his behaviors and

get him out of there ASAP.

After many of his behaviors were resolved (which took a couple months), I asked

that he be integrated back into the regular classroom and the reg.ed. teacher

pretty much refused to allow him back in the class. The entire year, I fought

with them and we accomplished nothing.

Near the end of the year, I got an attorney and started documenting everything.

I demanded that he repeat kindergarten in the regular ed. classroom with

supports or pull-outs as appropriate. When it was time to register, they

refused to allow me to register him in Kindergarten saying he HAD to go to first

grade only.

So I found a private school while we were in the midst of our arguments and

finally enrolled him because we were unable to resolve our issues. The school

district finally settled to pay for that year in private school and they also

paid my mileage and provided speech and psychological services at the school.

I will never forget my 6 year old writing a cursive letter to his attorney to

thank him. The win was priceless, it was truly the right decision. He went to

the same school in first grade too, but we paid...we loved it.

If I had to do it all again, I would have tried to get them to pay for more than

one year, so try to do that.

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> > > Hi everyone. I am the process of getting ready to try to get my public

school district to contract out with the oral auditory school that my daughter

has been going to (and progressing amazingly through.)This contracting out will

allow the public school to give the funding that they receive for my daughter to

the private school so that I don't have to pay for it all out of pocket. I am

getting the paperwork together to prove that apraxic children do best with daily

therapy and that this oral auditory school offers. I also have a SLP who is

willing to validate this and go to any meetings as needed. My question is..for

those of your who have experienced going through this sort of situation, where

should I start??

> > > From the paperwork I have read it seems like I should call an IEP meeting

and say that I don't feel that my daughter's needs are being met through the

public school system. Right now she gets 1 hr a week of speech with no oral

motor and the therapist- although very nice- isn't experienced with apraxia. My

daughter is 3 so she hasn't started public school as of yet, but I don't want to

put her there and possibly cause set backs when she is doing so well at the

other school. could this be a problem in trying to get the funds since she has

never attended public school at all yet? Right now I just drive her to the

therapy appts.

> > > Other friends of mine who work in the educational arena are saying I

should go directly to the head of the district and deal directly with him.

> > > Anyone have any ideas on how I should best handle this??

> > > thank you for any help you can give me on this.!

> > >

> > >

> > >

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[Guest guest]

There is no rule that they have to stay in-district at any age! My 7dd went to a

special needs preschool which just happen to be in-district but that was my

choice. the other ps I looked at was further away from where my older sons

school was so I chose her school to keep them closer together and not at

opposite ends of the county!

There are kids who are bused all over up to two counties away--when the district

knows they cannot provide the services needed. Most of it is based on the kids

who need ABA and the county I live in does not have a big ABA program so the

kids who need that--end up out of district and county all the time!

My dd is now in-district in a self-contained classroom. Our SD SLP is very well

trained in Apraxia and only uses Kaufman with her Apraxia students. If that was

not the case- they had offered me other options when we were transitioning to K

that they and I agreed were too restrictive of an environment for her. But they

would have bused her anywhere!!

Is it at the private school where you'd like to keep her that she's only getting

an hour a week? You said she's thriving there but also that the therapist is not

trained in Apraxia? Is the private school where you bring her for additional

therapy?

Apraxia children benefit from 1-1 therapy 3 or 4 times per week. Also Oral motor

should not be the main focus of Apraxia therapy since its a Neurological

condition....its about teaching the brain to talk, not their mouth.

You cannot just say you dont feel that what the public preschool they can offer

isnt appropriate--you need to have documentation to prove why its not the right

environment.

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> I thought you had to stay in district until the child is of school age.

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> Hi everyone. I am the process of getting ready to try to get my public school

district to contract out with the oral auditory school that my daughter has been

going to (and progressing amazingly through.)

> From the paperwork I have read it seems like I should call an IEP meeting and

say that I don't feel that my daughter's needs are being met through the public

school system. Right now she gets 1 hr a week of speech with no oral motor and

the therapist- although very nice- isn't experienced with apraxia. My daughter

is 3 so she hasn't started public school as of yet, but I don't want to put her

there and possibly cause set backs when she is doing so well at the other

school. could this be a problem in trying to get the funds since she has never

attended public school at all yet? Right now I just drive her to the therapy

appts.

> Other friends of mine who work in the educational arena are saying I should go

directly to the head of the district and deal directly with him.

> Anyone have any ideas on how I should best handle this??

> thank you for any help you can give me on this.!

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi

Thank you for your reply. Maybe I wasn't very clear in my original post. The

staff at the private school are the ones who are experienced with apraxia. The

public school is where she is getting the one hour a week. At the private

school she gets speech daily and it is integrated into the classroom setting

also. My main question though, was should I bring up the subject at an IEP

meeting or should I go to the head of the school district to address this?

Actually at this time I have found out some other information that may make it

possible for my daughter to get funding for the private school without using the

district funds. I am still researching it so I don't want to go into the

details at the moment. I will post more on it later. I would still like to know

the answer to the question though if anyone knows it

thanks

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> > I thought you had to stay in district until the child is of school age.

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> > Hi everyone. I am the process of getting ready to try to get my public

school district to contract out with the oral auditory school that my daughter

has been going to (and progressing amazingly through.)

>

> > From the paperwork I have read it seems like I should call an IEP meeting

and say that I don't feel that my daughter's needs are being met through the

public school system. Right now she gets 1 hr a week of speech with no oral

motor and the therapist- although very nice- isn't experienced with apraxia. My

daughter is 3 so she hasn't started public school as of yet, but I don't want to

put her there and possibly cause set backs when she is doing so well at the

other school. could this be a problem in trying to get the funds since she has

never attended public school at all yet? Right now I just drive her to the

therapy appts.

> > Other friends of mine who work in the educational arena are saying I should

go directly to the head of the district and deal directly with him.

> > Anyone have any ideas on how I should best handle this??

> > thank you for any help you can give me on this.!

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for answering my question! That is terrible how they treated your son!!

It bothers me so much when people make a decision and then act as if the

arrangement was made in stone even when it is apparent that there are better

arrangements that could be made.

I am glad that you were able to find a school that was a good fit for your son

That is always so gratifying isn't it?? I hope I won't have to hire an

attorney but I will if I need to. I am actually going to try another route

first (that I just found) to try get the funding before I try to get the

district to give up their funding. Thank you again for your help

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> > > > Hi everyone. I am the process of getting ready to try to get my public

school district to contract out with the oral auditory school that my daughter

has been going to (and progressing amazingly through.)This contracting out will

allow the public school to give the funding that they receive for my daughter to

the private school so that I don't have to pay for it all out of pocket. I am

getting the paperwork together to prove that apraxic children do best with daily

therapy and that this oral auditory school offers. I also have a SLP who is

willing to validate this and go to any meetings as needed. My question is..for

those of your who have experienced going through this sort of situation, where

should I start??

> > > > From the paperwork I have read it seems like I should call an IEP

meeting and say that I don't feel that my daughter's needs are being met through

the public school system. Right now she gets 1 hr a week of speech with no oral

motor and the therapist- although very nice- isn't experienced with apraxia. My

daughter is 3 so she hasn't started public school as of yet, but I don't want to

put her there and possibly cause set backs when she is doing so well at the

other school. could this be a problem in trying to get the funds since she has

never attended public school at all yet? Right now I just drive her to the

therapy appts.

> > > > Other friends of mine who work in the educational arena are saying I

should go directly to the head of the district and deal directly with him.

> > > > Anyone have any ideas on how I should best handle this??

> > > > thank you for any help you can give me on this.!

> > > >

> > > >

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[Guest guest]

Here are the guidelines in NY for Reimbursement for Placement in Private School.

There should be a website for your state Education where you can find the same

guidelines. this might help to see if you are following in the right order.

Reimbursement for Placement Made by Parents

in a Private School if the District Fails to Make a Free and Appropriate Public

Education Available to the Child

A school district is not required to pay for the cost of education of your

child at a private school or facility if the school district has made a free and

appropriate public education (FAPE) available to your child. However, if you

place your child in a private school because you and the school district

disagree that an appropriate program has been made available for your child, you

have the right to request an impartial hearing to seek reimbursement for the

private school placement.

1. If you are the parent of a child who previously received a special education

program and/or services through the school district and you place your child in

a private school without the consent or referral of the school district, you may

be entitled to reimbursement for the cost of the private placement if you can

prove at an impartial hearing or State-level or court appeal that: the school

district did not provide your child with a free appropriate public education in

a timely manner prior to that enrollment in private school and

the private placement is appropriate to meet your child's educational needs. A

hearing officer or court may find that a parental placement is appropriate even

if it does not meet the State standards that apply to education programs

provided by the school district or the State.

2. Your reimbursement may be denied or reduced if you do not: inform the school

district at the most recent CSE or CPSE meeting you attend that you are

rejecting the placement proposed by the school district and state your concerns

and that you will be placing your child at a private school at public expense,

or

provide the school district with written notice at least ten business days

(including any holidays that occur on a business day) prior to removing your

child from the public school. However, the cost of reimbursement may not be

reduced or denied because you did not give this notice if you are unable to read

and cannot write in English; or if providing notice would likely result in

physical or serious emotional harm to your child; or if the school prevented you

from providing the notice; or if you did not receive the procedural safeguards

notice that tells you about this requirement, then the cost of reimbursement may

not be reduced or denied because you did not give this notice.

3. If the school district gave you written notice prior to your removing your

child from public school that it wants to evaluate your child, you must make

your child available for the evaluation. If you refuse to make your child

available, any request for tuition reimbursement may be reduced or denied.

4. If you do not inform the school district or make your child available for the

evaluation, or if there are other unreasonable actions on your part, an

impartial hearing officer or court may reduce or deny the reimbursement of costs

of the private school for your child.

[Guest guest]

The teacher just notified me yesterday that my son could do first grade again in

her class. I'm very happy we didn't have to fight for it.

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> > > > > Hi everyone. I am the process of getting ready to try to get my

public school district to contract out with the oral auditory school that my

daughter has been going to (and progressing amazingly through.)This contracting

out will allow the public school to give the funding that they receive for my

daughter to the private school so that I don't have to pay for it all out of

pocket. I am getting the paperwork together to prove that apraxic children do

best with daily therapy and that this oral auditory school offers. I also have a

SLP who is willing to validate this and go to any meetings as needed. My

question is..for those of your who have experienced going through this sort of

situation, where should I start??

> > > > > From the paperwork I have read it seems like I should call an IEP

meeting and say that I don't feel that my daughter's needs are being met through

the public school system. Right now she gets 1 hr a week of speech with no oral

motor and the therapist- although very nice- isn't experienced with apraxia. My

daughter is 3 so she hasn't started public school as of yet, but I don't want to

put her there and possibly cause set backs when she is doing so well at the

other school. could this be a problem in trying to get the funds since she has

never attended public school at all yet? Right now I just drive her to the

therapy appts.

> > > > > Other friends of mine who work in the educational arena are saying I

should go directly to the head of the district and deal directly with him.

> > > > > Anyone have any ideas on how I should best handle this??

> > > > > thank you for any help you can give me on this.!

> > > > >

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