Re:need some advise about Stay Put RULE

[Guest guest]

Again, you need to contact an advocate or legalaid, both which are at no cost to

you (as in free) to assist you with your issues.

Lori

From: caroline yassa <c_yassa@...>

Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 5:55:24 PM

Subject: [ ] need some advise about Stay Put RULE

I have a child with verbal apraxia, and the school now wants to decuct the

services and change the placement to speech class and 10m/speech , and this

class group also for only 2and half hours, this was happened last week, my

daughter is a smat one, and they did full assessement for her after we

requesting more speech, and then they said she needs to move from gregualr

general education class to be in speech class with special teacher, group 11

kids, this is horrible.

I asked them why you want to change the services they said your daughter needs

intensive therapy and this is what we offer now.

I actually disagree with them, and said I will not do this , means STAY PUT on

the old IEP, which says 20m/3 times individuel , 25m/group and one hour private,

as she had done an ear surgery last year, also english is my second language.

Now we cant understand what is going on, and we are worry about STAY PUT, is

there any risk, also we asked them for this, the school SLP said NO , I will

work on the old goals, and I might see her The same amount of time.

NOW what we can do, why they did this with us, we only feel that our daughter

need some services, as we watched some bad behaivours in home, eating papers, so

we asked about the full assessement.

PLEASE TELL DID I DO SOMETHING WRONG??????

OR NOT ILLEAGAL.

WHY THIS IS HAPPENING< if they dont want to add services, why they change the

placement and services, also she achieved her goals in this envirnoment.

CAROLINE

[Guest guest]

I want to correct what Lori stated. Legal Aid is not entirely free;they charge a

fee, then they determine if you are eligible. Then it is anyone's guess if your

state handles special needs cases thru legal aid (doubtful...at least in GA). I

have found NO PRO BONO attorneys NOR free advocates. I can go even further and

say that there is no one within 150 miles of me that even handles special needs

cases...and definitely no one for free anywhere in GA.

>

> SO YOU THINK THE SCHOOL WILL GIVE ME MY RIGHTS AGAIN, OR WE WILL GO TO ATTONRY

, BECAUSE TILL NOW WE DIDNT RECEIVE ANY NEW GOALS, AS YOU KNOW WE CANT HOLD THE

POSITION LIKE THIS.

>

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> ________________________________

> From: " lorirosen@... " <lorirosen@...>

>

> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 6:45:06 AM

> Subject: [ ] Re:need some advise about Stay Put RULE

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> Again, you need to contact an advocate or legalaid, both which are at no cost

to you (as in free) to assist you with your issues.

> Lori

>

> From: caroline yassa <c_yassa (DOT) com>

> @groups. com

> Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 5:55:24 PM

> Subject: [childrensapraxiane t] need some advise about Stay Put RULE

>

> I have a child with verbal apraxia, and the school now wants to decuct the

> services and change the placement to speech class and 10m/speech , and this

> class group also for only 2and half hours, this was happened last week, my

> daughter is a smat one, and they did full assessement for her after we

> requesting more speech, and then they said she needs to move from gregualr

> general education class to be in speech class with special teacher, group 11

> kids, this is horrible.

>

> I asked them why you want to change the services they said your daughter needs

> intensive therapy and this is what we offer now.

>

> I actually disagree with them, and said I will not do this , means STAY PUT on

> the old IEP, which says 20m/3 times individuel , 25m/group and one hour

private,

> as she had done an ear surgery last year, also english is my second language.

>

> Now we cant understand what is going on, and we are worry about STAY PUT, is

> there any risk, also we asked them for this, the school SLP said NO , I will

> work on the old goals, and I might see her The same amount of time.

>

> NOW what we can do, why they did this with us, we only feel that our daughter

> need some services, as we watched some bad behaivours in home, eating papers,

so

> we asked about the full assessement.

>

> PLEASE TELL DID I DO SOMETHING WRONG??????

> OR NOT ILLEAGAL.

>

> WHY THIS IS HAPPENING< if they dont want to add services, why they change the

> placement and services, also she achieved her goals in this envirnoment.

>

> CAROLINE

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

Actually you are incorrect. You need to be screen for financial eligibility

FIRST, then by the type of legal case you have. They do not charge a fee if you

cannot afford it. Legal aid uses the Federal poverty guidelines (125% below

poverty level) to determine eligibility for services and so if you fall in that

category, it is FREE. In some cases, for those in low income, a sliding scale

is used and a small fee is incurred based on income if you fall in that

category.

In my state, the website indicates that " Civil legal aid in Ohio refers to the

free legal services provided by hundreds of attorneys and paralegals throughout

the state. "

I checked out your state's legal aid society and it states that " Georgia Legal

Services Program is a law firm which serves people with low incomes. The Program

provides free legal assistance to Georgians who live outside the five county

metro Atlanta area. "

Sounds like free is free to me.

Legal aid offices do accept educational cases, I have worked with many legal aid

attorneys and it is also stated in your state's website.

(http://www.glsp.org/RTF1.cfm?pagename=FAQs_Temp)

There are non profit organizations that have parent advocates that assist

parents in IEP meetings, again at no cost if they are low income. I am not

familiar with your state so I do not know which and how many of these non profit

agencies exist in your state. I am aware there are individuals who charge fees,

but I am not talking about them.

If you have been unable to receive free legal aid from the local or county legal

aid office near you, then it may be because of your income. If you have been

unable to find a parent advocate, that could be there isn't a non profit agency

located near where you live. Doesn't mean that it holds true for everyone else

in this country or on this list.

Based on the information Caroline had shared on this group earlier, I had

presumed she fell in the low income group and therefore suggested legal aid or a

parent advocate, and, given that she lives in California, she would have a

pretty good chance of finding such services.

Lori

> >

> > SO YOU THINK THE SCHOOL WILL GIVE ME MY RIGHTS AGAIN, OR WE WILL GO TO

ATTONRY , BECAUSE TILL NOW WE DIDNT RECEIVE ANY NEW GOALS, AS YOU KNOW WE CANT

HOLD THE POSITION LIKE THIS.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: " lorirosen@ " <lorirosen@>

> >

> > Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 6:45:06 AM

> > Subject: [ ] Re:need some advise about Stay Put RULE

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Again, you need to contact an advocate or legalaid, both which are at no

cost to you (as in free) to assist you with your issues.

> > Lori

> >

> > From: caroline yassa <c_yassa (DOT) com>

> > @groups. com

> > Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 5:55:24 PM

> > Subject: [childrensapraxiane t] need some advise about Stay Put RULE

> >

> > I have a child with verbal apraxia, and the school now wants to decuct the

> > services and change the placement to speech class and 10m/speech , and this

> > class group also for only 2and half hours, this was happened last week, my

> > daughter is a smat one, and they did full assessement for her after we

> > requesting more speech, and then they said she needs to move from gregualr

> > general education class to be in speech class with special teacher, group 11

> > kids, this is horrible.

> >

> > I asked them why you want to change the services they said your daughter

needs

> > intensive therapy and this is what we offer now.

> >

> > I actually disagree with them, and said I will not do this , means STAY PUT

on

> > the old IEP, which says 20m/3 times individuel , 25m/group and one hour

private,

> > as she had done an ear surgery last year, also english is my second

language.

> >

> > Now we cant understand what is going on, and we are worry about STAY PUT, is

> > there any risk, also we asked them for this, the school SLP said NO , I will

> > work on the old goals, and I might see her The same amount of time.

> >

> > NOW what we can do, why they did this with us, we only feel that our

daughter

> > need some services, as we watched some bad behaivours in home, eating

papers, so

> > we asked about the full assessement.

> >

> > PLEASE TELL DID I DO SOMETHING WRONG??????

> > OR NOT ILLEAGAL.

> >

> > WHY THIS IS HAPPENING< if they dont want to add services, why they change

the

> > placement and services, also she achieved her goals in this envirnoment.

> >

> > CAROLINE

> >

> >