Guest guest Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 You do not need a doctor's note. All you need s a signed notarized statement from yourself. If the school tells you otherwise, just quote them the law, which is on the waiver form I have. It helpsto place a second notarized copy in you child's medical file. When you give it to the doctor's office, just ask that it be stapled to the front of the chart. " A true measure of love is how much truth you are told. " ...A Girl Named SUESS I had meaning; it is when I was 3 months old.. http://agirlnamedsuess.tripod.com http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?isbn=0-595-37775-0 “Standing for justice…changing labels associated with Down Syndrome.”Our doormat reads: B les Sour Ho me. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™ Hotmail®: Chat. Store. Share. Do more with mail. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_hm_justgotbetter_howitwor\ ks_012009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2009 Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 DTaP also has the highest incidence of reactions and is the vaccine thast resulted in my daughters stroke at 3 months. She is now 8 and will never be the same. Her development is that of a 6 month olds and she cannot move much or talk. I find the most danger in that one and know of others who have had severe reactions but their doctors do not report it because the will knot acknowledge that it is a side effect. Most doctors are not even taught what the side effects are and how to recognize them since that portion of the training is paid for and sponsored by the pharmaceutical companies. Yes, whooping cough is more prevalant than other diseases but what is also in those studies but not blasted across the media is that 89% of those with whooping cough have been vaccinated. The disease has mutated and the vaccine does not prevent it. Those without the vaccine are actually safer because their body has stronger immune systems to fight it. Another item that skews the studies (and I have experienced this myself since my older children are fully vaccinated) is that when you are vaccinated, they will cal it anything else but often when you are not vaccinated they automatically go to that as a diagnosis without the proper testing. My younger children obviously cannot have the pertussis vaccine so anytime there is a case in their school and my children are sick I dio the responsible thing and have them checked out. Never had it, even when in the classroom next to the child. Either way, the ped told me not to worry about it because it isn't as bad as everyone says and if they were to get it and not kick it themself then she would prescribe an antibiotic. She is very mainstream and pro-vax. This has led me to further question the necessity if even she acknowledges the non-severity of it. Study up a little further-even beyond Dr. Sears. I gleaned most of my information from the package inserts and government websites. The information is out there, most just don't look for it. If I could take back my childs vaccine I would do it in a minute as it came close to destroying my family. > > We are expecting our first baby in a month. Sadly, I have to put the baby in day care 3x a week. I've done a good deal of well balanced researched and think the only vax we will give within the first 2 years is the DTaP. Can anyone shed light on this vaccine as well as experience with children with whooping cough. It is more common than most of the other illnesses that children receive early vaccines for... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2009 Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 At 08:39 AM 5/30/2009, you wrote: >We are expecting our first baby in a month. Sadly, I have to put the >baby in day care 3x a week. I've done a good deal of well balanced >researched and think the only vax we will give within the first 2 >years is the DTaP. Can anyone shed light on this vaccine as well as >experience with children with whooping cough. It is more common than >most of the other illnesses that children receive early vaccines for... Hi Chris That is a very dangerous vaccine I know you came on our list last October and said your wife was pregnant. What research have you done in the last 7 months? Whooping cough can be dangerous in the first 6 months of life, but NO vaccine gives immunity The vaccinated get whooping cough all the time And this vaccine is highly reactive It is a combo vaccine for diphtheria which is hardly a risk for anyone anymore; tetanus which an infant is not at risk for and another highly reactive vaccine and then pertussis which is a terrible vaccine. Whooping cough can be treated homeopathically with excellent results if that is something your child gets Tell us more about how much you were able to research in the last 7 months Sheri listowner Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm or http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes start May 20 & 21 http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccineclass.htm or http://www.wellwithin1.com/homeo.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 the dtap put my baby in the hospital (Cornell - NY Presbyterian) for nearly 2 weeks. as per my dr's instructions (allopath, i should add), she will not be having that vacc again, or any other. my dd is living proof that vaccinations are very very dangerous. Re: DTaP vaccine Vaccinations > Hi Chris! > > The only children who I know about who have had complications > regarding whooping cough were " vaccinated " children (just based > on my research). Honestly, I have been searching and I have yet > to find a child suffer from ill effects of any of these diseases > that were completely, 100% unvaccinated. Yes, on a RARE occasion > it may happen, but the choice is yours. None of us like to tell > you not to vaccinate (though deep down we really do), but you > have to weigh the risks and benefits for each disease and each > vaccine. All of my research shows that the risks of vaccinating > outweigh the perceived benefits for every child....that is just > me and what I have personally found based on my search for over > 1 year - hundreds of hours. > > > > > > > We are expecting our first baby in a month. Sadly, I have to > put the baby in day care 3x a week. I've done a good deal of > well balanced researched and think the only vax we will give > within the first 2 years is the DTaP. Can anyone shed light on > this vaccine as well as experience with children with whooping > cough. It is more common than most of the other illnesses that > children receive early vaccines for... > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 At 04:33 PM 5/30/2009, you wrote: >All 3 of my unvaccinated children had whooping cough last year. I >didn't bring them to get diagnosed... but, did search the internet >and found sound bytes of what whooping cough sounds like... and my >youngest definitely sounded JUST like it! They were fine... the most >irritating part of it is that it just lasts for soooo long! I would >have them stay in the steamy bathroom for like 20 minutes or so to >help loosen up the phlegm. Were you able to use homeopathy with them or see a homeopath? That could have shortened their illness time. Also Vitamin C high doses and Vitamin D in the higher doses now being recommended could have helped immensely Thanks for sharing Sheri listowner Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm or http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes start May 20 & 21 http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccineclass.htm or http://www.wellwithin1.com/homeo.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 No, I didn't see a homeopath; I don't believe there's one close to me... And even if there was, I wouldn't have been able to afford it... :/ I do give them vitamin C... didn't know about vitamin D though Alison, Non-vaxing, extended breastfeeding, co-sleeping, baby-wearing, natural birthing, herb & homeopathy-using Louisiana sahm to 3 children: Calista (2-13-99) Ursula (12-22-02) Wyatt(12-20-05) Re: DTaP vaccine Were you able to use homeopathy with them or see a homeopath? That could have shortened their illness time. Also Vitamin C high doses and Vitamin D in the higher doses now being recommended could have helped immensely Thanks for sharing Sheri listowner Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm or http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes start May 20 & 21 http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccineclass.htm or http://www.wellwithin1.com/homeo.htm . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 At 08:42 AM 5/31/2009, you wrote: >No, I didn't see a homeopath; I don't believe there's one close to >me... And even if there was, I wouldn't have been able to afford it... :/ >I do give them vitamin C... need to be sure high enough doses as in the info I share > didn't know about vitamin D though Yes, we are just starting to find out how much Vitamin D matters I think we are all pretty deficient Posted info here recently Sheri >Alison, >Non-vaxing, extended breastfeeding, co-sleeping, baby-wearing, >natural birthing, herb & homeopathy-using Louisiana sahm to 3 children: >Calista (2-13-99) >Ursula (12-22-02) >Wyatt(12-20-05) > Re: DTaP vaccine > > > > > > > Were you able to use homeopathy with them or see a homeopath? That > could have shortened their illness time. > > Also Vitamin C high doses and Vitamin D in the higher doses now being > recommended could have helped immensely > > Thanks for sharing > Sheri > listowner > > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA > Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm or > http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm > Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & Homeopathy Online/email > courses - next classes start May 20 & 21 > http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccineclass.htm or > http://www.wellwithin1.com/homeo.htm > > > . > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 It is one of the most dangerous vaccines in existence. I don't know who told you pertussis is one of the most common diseases out there but they ought to back that up--and so what anyway? FYI--the most common diseases these days are chronic ones: asthma, allergies (including fatal ones, such as peanuts), diabetes, behavioral problems, ADHD, learning disabilities, and more. NOT childhood diseases of the past. The pertussis vaccine won't give protection (and this is according to those who sell them) unless you have the full series, which is completed by age 4-5. This means there is virtually no protection at all at 2 months. Same for 4 months. Same for 6 months. And so on. AND that " protection " is not guaranteed. That " protection " might be at little as around 40% (again, if you believe they protect at all, which I don't). This does not mean the person is 40% protected. This means that 60 out of 100 will get ZERO protection--again, per those who sell the vaccines. And for this minimal benefit (according to those who promote them)--you risk death. Question: where did you do your research that you came up with the pertussis vaccine as being the favored one to give? Winnie DTaP vaccine Vaccinations > We are expecting our first baby in a month. Sadly, I have to > put the baby in day care 3x a week. I've done a good deal of > well balanced researched and think the only vax we will give > within the first 2 years is the DTaP. Can anyone shed light on > this vaccine as well as experience with children with whooping > cough. It is more common than most of the other illnesses that > children receive early vaccines for... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 " " " " " " The pertussis vaccine won't give protection (and this is according to those who sell them) unless you have the full series, which is completed by age 4-5. This means there is virtually no protection at all at 2 months. Same for 4 months. Same for 6 months. And so on. " " " " " Yes very true my son who was vaccinated (I didn't know better at the time) got whooping cough after DTaP. He was few months old. Funny thing is they won't say it's that but said it was prob. Croup. Had he been an unvaccinated child it'd prob. end up on the evening news. From all the research I've done I agree with Winnie it is one of the most dangerous vaccines. I just recently learned that infant in town died 2 days after DTaP. They classified as SIDS and no other explanations. Just a coincidence right. I THINK NOT!!! NJ Re: DTaP vaccine It is one of the most dangerous vaccines in existence. I don't know who told you pertussis is one of the most common diseases out there but they ought to back that up--and so what anyway? FYI--the most common diseases these days are chronic ones: asthma, allergies (including fatal ones, such as peanuts), diabetes, behavioral problems, ADHD, learning disabilities, and more. NOT childhood diseases of the past. The pertussis vaccine won't give protection (and this is according to those who sell them) unless you have the full series, which is completed by age 4-5. This means there is virtually no protection at all at 2 months. Same for 4 months. Same for 6 months. And so on. AND that " protection " is not guaranteed. That " protection " might be at little as around 40% (again, if you believe they protect at all, which I don't). This does not mean the person is 40% protected. This means that 60 out of 100 will get ZERO protection--again, per those who sell the vaccines. And for this minimal benefit (according to those who promote them)--you risk death. Question: where did you do your research that you came up with the pertussis vaccine as being the favored one to give? Winnie DTaP vaccine Vaccinations > We are expecting our first baby in a month. Sadly, I have to > put the baby in day care 3x a week. I've done a good deal of > well balanced researched and think the only vax we will give > within the first 2 years is the DTaP. Can anyone shed light on > this vaccine as well as experience with children with whooping > cough. It is more common than most of the other illnesses that > children receive early vaccines for... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 As a little added info, my son, fully vaccinated according to CDC schedule in effect at the time, just recently came down with whooping cough/pertussis, as did many in our school district. There is a recent study out as well, implicating DTap with asthma. In this study, it was determined that by merely delaying the DTap vaccine by two months (i.e. starting the series at four months old instead of two months old) reduced the incidence of an asthma diagnosis by 50%. BTW, did I say my son also has to deal with asthma?? How much further would the incidence of asthma be reduced if children did not receive the vaccine?? I wish I had known then what I know now. I want to cry every time my son has to have an asthma treatment, which is daily. All vaccines have possible adverse effects and none have been determined to be safe. > > It is one of the most dangerous vaccines in existence. > > I don't know who told you pertussis is one of the most common diseases out there but they ought to back that up--and so what anyway? FYI--the most common diseases these days are chronic ones: asthma, allergies (including fatal ones, such as peanuts), diabetes, behavioral problems, ADHD, learning disabilities, and more. NOT childhood diseases of the past. > > The pertussis vaccine won't give protection (and this is according to those who sell them) unless you have the full series, which is completed by age 4-5. This means there is virtually no protection at all at 2 months. Same for 4 months. Same for 6 months. And so on. > > AND that " protection " is not guaranteed. That " protection " might be at little as around 40% (again, if you believe they protect at all, which I don't). > > This does not mean the person is 40% protected. This means that 60 out of 100 will get ZERO protection--again, per those who sell the vaccines. > > And for this minimal benefit (according to those who promote them)--you risk death. > > Question: where did you do your research that you came up with the pertussis vaccine as being the favored one to give? > > Winnie > > DTaP vaccine > Vaccinations > > > We are expecting our first baby in a month. Sadly, I have to > > put the baby in day care 3x a week. I've done a good deal of > > well balanced researched and think the only vax we will give > > within the first 2 years is the DTaP. Can anyone shed light on > > this vaccine as well as experience with children with whooping > > cough. It is more common than most of the other illnesses that > > children receive early vaccines for... > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 well we thought our son had the whooping cough and he is unvaxed... when we went to the er i could have jumped the nurse she actually walked in (now this is the head ped in on the shift) walked in listened to his lungs and said i quote.... " he could have pertussius we have a test that we could do it takes a couple of days to have the results but i saw that he is unvaxed and because he is not he is not vaxed it doesn't matter about the test because he is not protected he prob does have it " i sat there and was like what ever is there a medicine i can give him she gave the medicine she said they give to children with the whooping cough... now my question is what is the difference in vaxed and unvaxed on the test... and if my child was vaxed would they have rushed to take the test to see if he had whooping cough.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 No, they would have said he couldn't possibly have it since he's vaxed. What's stunning is she's deciding he has pertussis without having the test results. Gee, why not just pay her directly and have her use her psychic powers to determine whether people have a disease? Winnie RE: DTaP vaccine vaccinations > > well we thought our son had the whooping cough and he is > unvaxed... when we went to the er i could have jumped the nurse > she actually walked in (now this is the head ped in on the > shift) walked in listened to his lungs and said i quote.... " he > could have pertussius we have a test that we could do it takes a > couple of days to have the results but i saw that he is unvaxed > and because he is not he is not vaxed it doesn't matter about > the test because he is not protected he prob does have it " i sat > there and was like what ever is there a medicine i can give him > she gave the medicine she said they give to children with the > whooping cough... > > > > now my question is what is the difference in vaxed and unvaxed > on the test... and if my child was vaxed would they have rushed > to take the test to see if he had whooping cough.. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 I didn't know anyone with asthma growing up. No one. , get yourself a naturopath if you don't have one already. Mine got my son over his asthma. Build up the immune system. Winnie DTaP vaccine > > Vaccinations > > > > > We are expecting our first baby in a month. Sadly, I have to > > > put the baby in day care 3x a week. I've done a good deal of > > > well balanced researched and think the only vax we will give > > > within the first 2 years is the DTaP. Can anyone shed light > on > > > this vaccine as well as experience with children with > whooping > > > cough. It is more common than most of the other illnesses > that > > > children receive early vaccines for... > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 One of the reasons I decided to question vaccines in the first place was that when I was pregnant with my first son a friend's two-month-old healthy son died just hours after receiving the DTaP. Same diagnosis - SIDS - but not until a lengthy investigation for Shaken Baby Syndrome. They actually accused my friend of killing her own baby, because the medical establishment is too arrogant and blinded by money and greed to admit that their poisons are damaging the brains of and killing our babies. That was the stick that broke the camel's back for me... after witnessing, first-hand, vaccine injury in myself and two others besides this death. That was just in MY little corner of the world! On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 9:11 PM, <ruszala4@...> wrote: > > Yes very true my son who was vaccinated (I didn't know better at the time) > got whooping cough after DTaP. He was few months old. Funny thing is they > won't say it's that but said it was prob. Croup. Had he been an unvaccinated > child it'd prob. end up on the evening news. From all the research I've done > I agree with Winnie it is one of the most dangerous vaccines. I just > recently learned that infant in town died 2 days after DTaP. They classified > as SIDS and no other explanations. Just a coincidence right. I THINK NOT!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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