Semantic Pragmatic Language Disorder

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What about children with autism with no language? (or not speaking at all).

Are there interventions for them?

Thanks,

donna.

Semantic Pragmatic Language Disorder

Many children with ADHD, Asperger's, Autism Spectrum Disorders, Non-Verbal LD, etc. have co-occurring Semantic/Pragmatic Language Disorders. If you have a child who is having difficulty with social language, making friends, understanding social cues have the school system evaluate through speech/language for Semantic/Pragmatic Language Disorder.

Here are some links for more information.

Carol SadlerSpecial Education Consultant/AdvocateCarolSadler@... www.IEPadvocate4You.com

Social Communication Tests

http://depts.washington.edu/soccomm/tests/standard.html

Pragmatics Eligibility

http://www.kyrene.k12.az.us/resource/speech_program/spl_pragmatics_eligibility.htm

What is Semantic-pragmatic Disorder?http://www.mugsy.org/spd.htm

Semantic and Pragmatic DifficultiesAND SEMANTIC-PRAGMATIC LANGUAGE DISORDERhttp://members.tripod.com/Caroline_Bowen/spld.htm

Conversational characteristics of children with semantic-pragmatic disorder.http://www.mugsy.org/spd2.htm

SEMANTIC PRAGMATIC IMPAIRMENTS INFORMATION SHEET http://www.mugsy.org/spd5.htm

Pragmatics, Socially Speaking

http://www.asha.org/public/speech/development/pragmatics.htm

Pragmatic Language Tips

http://www.asha.org/public/speech/development/Pragmatic-Language-Tips.htm

Questioning the validity of the semantic-pragmatic syndrome diagnosis

http://www.mugsy.org/spd4.htm

The Social Thinking Philosophy

http://www.socialthinking.com/philosophy.htm

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Trail/5136/

Semantic Pragmatic Disorder

http://www.hyperlexia.org/sp1.html

Semantic-Pragmatic Difficulties

http://www.nlg.nhs.uk/SpeechLanguage/Advice/semantic.htm

Can Social Pragmatic Skills Be Tested?http://www.iidc.indiana.edu/irca/communication/socialpragmatic.html

Social Pragmatic Language Disorder

http://www.kidspeech.com/index.php?page=81

[Guest guest]

Hi Everyone

Do any of you have experience with this speech disorder with or without apraxia?

I was reading a bit about it - and some of the criteria fit my apraxic son -

Chase - 3 1/2 years old.

Would love your input.

Thanks, Jill

[Guest guest]

No One??

>

> Hi Everyone

>

> Do any of you have experience with this speech disorder with or without

apraxia?

>

> I was reading a bit about it - and some of the criteria fit my apraxic son -

Chase - 3 1/2 years old.

>

> Would love your input.

>

> Thanks, Jill

>

[Guest guest]

Semantic Pragmatic Language Disorder is a language disorder, not a

speech disorder. It can be co-morbid with a speech disorder, but it

involves language, not speech. It is also placed on the autism

spectrum, but I don't believe it's an officially recognized disorder

yet. It's basically said to be the inverse of Aspergers. Aspergers

is high language low social. SPLD is high social, low language.

My son was diagnosed with it almost 2 yrs ago, but other than that one

doc no one else agrees with that diagnosis. The doc that diagnosed

him also said he didn't have apraxia. When I took that back to his

SLP she was irate and offered to send video of him over the last two

years to prove that he DOES have apraxia, he's just had great therapy

and made great progress!!!

Since that diagnosis he's been evaluated in a new school district and

their psychologist and SLP didn't agree. His private SLP doesn't

agree and neither does his pediatrician, although she said she's never

seen a kid with that diagnosis, but she feels strongly he is nowhere

on the autism spectrum.

My 7.5 yr old son has issues with semantics, but his pragmatics are

excellent. Functionally in daily life most people who only see him

casually don't realize there is anything " wrong " with him, but when

you really test him you realize that he functions through non-verbal

cues, body language and social signs, NOT words. Because of this I

laugh when people try to place him on the autism spectrum. He doesn't

have an issue with language because he has social issues. He has

(mild) social issues because he doesn't understand or use language

properly. He's at Cub Scout camp this week and one of his group

leaders was shocked today to hear he has special needs at all. I did

put it on the medical form, but didn't explain to any of the leaders

because his older brother is in his group and I know he watches out

for him. He said he's hardly needed to this week!

The diagnosis of SPLD was completely unhelpful because I couldn't find

support anywhere. There is one list I found, but other than the

occasional spam message it's completely dead. SPLD is supposedly on

the autism spectrum, but I find nothing helpful on autism groups that

fits my son and trying to weed through everything irrelevant is

completely overwhelming.

So we've continued doing what has been working and we've pursued other

possible reasons for his language issues. He goes to a Prompt trained

therapist (who rarely needs to do prompt these days.) She works

primarily on language now. She is convinced his language disorder is

aphasia, but his MRI was normal. I'm not sure if they checked the

right things on that MRI. Something in Broca's region could have

explained both the apraxia and aphasia and he did have a head trauma

as a baby. At his annual physical we're following up with his doc to

make sure they did the right kind of MRI. It was just a normal 6 film

MRI of the entire brain. Can they do something that looks more at

that particular region? I'm not sure.

He's making progress and that's the most important thing right now.

Sorry I couldn't be more help. When I asked questions in fall 2007 I

got about the same lack of response.

Miche