Lecithin

[Guest guest]

You might want to think twice before eating raw egg white.

Re: lecithin

> Hi Gayathri, Lecithin comes from the yolk. You could eat raw egg yolk

daily, but the white will not benefit you as far as lecithin goes. And I

would only eat raw egg yolk if I lived in the west, if I lived in the US as

eastern chickens have salmonella. Also, I think you would have to do many

many yolks to get the concentrated amount you get in the Nature's Plus

product. I don't know what the equivalent would be. Sorry. I think, in

the end it would cost less to buy the capped stuff, And would also be much

more convenient. I haven't used it in a few years, but when I did use it, I

especially loved it for bedtime. If I took it at night I could go to sleep

without having to eat. Really helped with the adrenal fatigue, blood sugar

drop at night.

>

> Hope that helps.

> Donna

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Gayathri Kuppuswamy

>

> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 4:42 PM

>

>

> Donna,

> Will having boiled egg(with yolk) daily achieve similar results? I am

basically brought up a vegetarian and haven't eaten eggs a lot (not

routinely). So I was wondering if I could get the same benefits as this

supplement you are mentioning by just eating boiled eggs.

> Or is this supplement having a high content of lecithin from the egg

yolks that its hard to get from a single egg intake daily?

> Thanks for clarifying!!

> take care,

> Gayathri.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Soy Lecithin is not a barrier, it is an " Emulsifier " to bind the water

and oil basesof a lotion/cream together so it will not seperate, and most

generally used as a " second emulsifier " along with either E-wax or

Beeswax/borax, as the primary emulsifier.

Otherwise, the cream/lotion will seperate into oil and water again.

Creams and lotions are defined as emulsions of a water base and an oil base.

Soy is a protein, and it also has numerous vitamins, including very high in

Vitamin E, along with minerals and other nutrients, natural estrogen

properties, great for your skin and healthy all around food source.

When making creams and lotions it is a good idea to carefully " Study " the

properties of oils, emulsifiers, preservatives, and water based ingredients

so you can effectively create a cream or lotion for certain skin types,

ages, and desired outcomes. It is important to know the postive aspects and

the negative aspects of each ingredient used in any formula.

hth

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[Guest guest]

Hi All,

I believe in the use of lecithin. For me I, find it gives me

a wired

confused feeling so I don't take it. I eat a reasonable number of eggs,

which

I believe has lethicin in them.

Mike

[Guest guest]

Hi

I had a doctor recommend it and one of my supplements was making me feel awful,

so I stopped a couple including lecithin and that stopped. I couldn't pinpoint

that it was the lecithin, but then I have read a lot since about how it can make

people with CFS worse. I did a quick search of my folder and found many emails

discussing lecithin so you might want to search the archives. I suspect like

most things it will be good for some PWC's and bad for others. Glad it is

working for you!

Thanks,

Doris

[Guest guest]

Judy,

It's great to hear from you again, and to hear that you have found

lecithin to be of help.

Commercial lecithin is about 20 to 30% phosphatidylcholine. This

may be what is giving you the benefit. Phosphatidylcholine is a

major part of cell membranes, including the membranes of nerve

cells, and the choline part can be used to make acetylcholine, one

of the body's main neurotransmitters.

Phosphatidylcholine is also found in large abundance in eggs. Have

eggs been a major part of your diet in the past? If so, I think it

would be surprising for supplemental commercial lecithin to have had

such a major impact on you now.

Rich

> Hi,

>

> I was wondering if anyone else on this list uses lecithin, which

is a

> supplement found in any drug store? When I mentioned to a

biologist that I

> know that I have CFS, she immediately suggested that I try

lecithin, as it

> greatly improved the health of a relative of hers with CFS. I've

been

> taking it for almost three weeks now. I've felt a dramatic

improvment in

> my health [which used to be awful this time of year when I caught

every

> virus going around]. I have seen no mention of lecithin on any of

the CFS

> lists that I've followed and am curious if anyone else with CFS

has tried

> it. I don't know if it'll keep working in the long term, but it's

had a

> phenomenal effect on my health so far. And it's cheap compared to

all the

> expensive stuff: I got the generic brand from Osco's. Oh, for

anyone

> interestd in trying it, I've had the following improvments since

being on

> it: increased energy and tolerance for many more activities than

> previously, the absence of any depressive or anxiety symptoms,

clearer

> cognition, and resistance to the viral and/or bacterial agents

that used

> to totally impair my functioning.

>

> Judy Richman

[Guest guest]

Hi Rich,

Thanks for writing and good to hear from you, too! Are you still on CPAR

[i posted there too on lecithin]? I have liked eggs alot, and generally

eat eggs several times a week. I'm guessing that maybe I just needed more

than what I was getting from eggs. Since other things have worked for

awhile and then stopped, I'm hoping this is different. It IS interesting ,

though, how things work for some people and not others [i think Doris

wrote of the negative effects]. Hence, more support for your argument [i

think] of needing better research which differentiates people by

sub-groups.

Best,

Judy

[Guest guest]

Hi Gayathri,

It looks like lecithin comes in many forms, from different sources,

and in many strengths.

I did a search on, " lecithin, " on , and found this page on

BulkFoods.Com. They discuss some of the various forms of lecithin:

http://www.bulkfoods.com/lecithin.htm

(I'm not recommending that anyone buy anything on BulkFoods, nor that

they don't. Their site just looks like it has a lot of information

about lecithin. I can't even say that their opinions are accurate,

and don't know whether it would benefit PWC's or not.)

I used to buy the oily, liquid, lecithin, in brown bottles, from

Whole Foods, for baking bread. I don't know if it was from soy or

eggs.

For many years, I've usually only eaten eggs when they were in a

recipe, so I eat very few of them, and seldom.

Carolyne

****************************************************

>

> Donna,

> Will having boiled egg(with yolk) daily achieve similar results? I

am basically brought up a vegetarian and haven't eaten eggs a lot

(not routinely). So I was wondering if I could get the same benefits

as this supplement you are mentioning by just eating boiled eggs.

> Or is this supplement having a high content of lecithin from the

egg yolks that its hard to get from a single egg intake daily?

> Thanks for clarifying!!

> take care,

> Gayathri.

> lecithin

>

>

> | I found soy lecithin to actually be irritating to my nervous

system,

> but

> egg yolk lecithin was calming and strengthening. It also helped

with

> that

> feeling of malnutrition you get with cfs. You know, when you have

a

> great

> diet and do alot of juicing and eat better than anyone you know and

> still

> feel unsatisfied and malnourished. Well, egg yolk lecithin greatly

> reduced

> that for me. And Juice Plus basically stopped it. Unfortunately

Juice

> plus

> is an mlm product and so it is pricey.

> |

[Guest guest]

hi

i used soy lecithin in my lotion...i added it to warm water ..but it

became lumpy inside..should i add it to cold water before heating

or to the oils and wax mixture...?

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[Guest guest]

I would try adding the lecethin to your oils.

http://tooldoc.wncc.nevada.edu/mayo.htm

An excerpt:

For O/W emulsions, lecithin is usually more effective when added to the oil

phase. For W/O emulsions, lecithins must again be added to the oil phase

since the lecithins which promote W/O type emulsions are not hydrophilic. In

all cases, lecithins should be thoroughly distributed to achieve maximum

effect.

The amount of lecithin required to produce an emulsion depends upon the

actual concentrations of water and lipid to be emulsified/dispersed in the

emulsion. Stabilizing ingredients like proteins, gums and starches may

reduce the amount of lecithin needed for the emulsion. Generally, for O/W

emulsions, lecithins are functional at 5-10%, based on the weight of the

oil. For difficult to emulsify materials like petrolatum, up to 20% may be

needed. For W/O emulsions, 1-5% based on the weight of oil is generally

sufficient.

Fwd: LECITHIN

>

> hi

> i used soy lecithin in my lotion...i added it to warm water ..but it

> became lumpy inside..should i add it to cold water before heating

> or to the oils and wax mixture...?

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[Guest guest]

I always added a tbs. of lecithin to my bread dough too. It will act as a

preservative also. Sometimes I would add eggs, but never thought about the

lecithin part of it. Would be a great idea to just add the yolk. Makes the bread

taste yummy.

I don't think the little bit of soy will do any harm, unless you are allergic .

We are allowed (maybe not for nons)to have soy, it's just that we don't

especially do well on it.

Emmi

[Guest guest]

I think every type is allowed Lecithin from soy or egg (but soy is much

easier to find). It may even be in some of the health protocols, as a

supplement.

Lecithin

I have been wanting to add a little lecithin to my bread recipe. The Great

Harvest Bakery makes the same bread that I do but they add lecithin. I

didn't know what it was. I did a Google search and found that it is a soy

based thing and I was wondering if that is ok to add a little to my

bread...and if not, could I substitue something else to make the bread

" hold

together " more. It says that it is also found in egg yolks and I was

curious

if I could just add an egg yolk or two to the mix and if that would

suffice

and if I can even DO that with bread.

Thanks,

Coryn

[Guest guest]

It is on Diane Craft's protocol for Week 7: we are on Week 3 (start

week 4 on Monday). Here are the notes from Diane's audio tapes below on

it.

Week 7: Lecithin, 1 Tablespoon a day " The Mother of all good fats "

Refrigerated portion of health food store or vacuum sealed can (2T. for

adults)

* You can bake this into mini muffins and freeze them.

* Emulsifies fat, lowers cholesterol

* Component of myelin sheath

* Helps us digest & utilize oils

* Helps balance, coordination, auditory processing, calms nervous

system

* In Dr. Feingold's work, too

* goes well with fatty foods-p. butter, mayonnaise, yogurt, choc.

Pudding, shake

* soy product

* will see results in one week

Lecithin

Does anyone here use Lecithin? What has it helped for you?

[Guest guest]

We tried it in puddings for our son, but not long enough b/c he

wouldn't tolerate the grainy texture. I believe I saw it in capsule

forms at the health store and may try that.

Donna

>

> Does anyone here use Lecithin? What has it helped for you?

>

[Guest guest]

Diane Craft's recommendation on the granules is to bake them in mini

muffins and freeze them. They get 1 muffin a day. I haven't tried it

yet, but will try the muffin trick as his morning snack.

Re: Lecithin

We tried it in puddings for our son, but not long enough b/c he

wouldn't tolerate the grainy texture. I believe I saw it in capsule

forms at the health store and may try that.

Donna

>

> Does anyone here use Lecithin? What has it helped for you?

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Does anyone here use Lecithin? What has it helped for you?

>

There is a really nice success story on a-m forum in the past few

weeks, using lecithin. You can search the archives or post a new message

autism treatment/

Dana

[Guest guest]

About 1/3 of your brain of is made up of lecithin and it is also found in

many ADD/ADHD medications. It is not the main ingredient, but they put it

in there. Our ND recommended it when I began to use GABA too. We use the

NOW Non-genetically engineered version. It is pretty cheap too. I put it

in my son's water and dissolve it. We use a water cup for on the go that

has a lid on it and a dark colored straw..... doesn't even know it is in

there. You could put it in juice too if you wanted to. My son will only

drink milk and water.

HTH,

Jackie---

PS: you can google the brain and lecithin and get some good reads

> Does anyone here use Lecithin? What has it helped for you?

[Guest guest]

Can we find non-soy based lecithin?

--- Jackie Hines <jhines@...> wrote:

> About 1/3 of your brain of is made up of lecithin and it is also found in

> many ADD/ADHD medications. It is not the main ingredient, but they put it

> in there. Our ND recommended it when I began to use GABA too. We use the

> NOW Non-genetically engineered version. It is pretty cheap too. I put it

> in my son's water and dissolve it. We use a water cup for on the go that

> has a lid on it and a dark colored straw..... doesn't even know it is in

> there. You could put it in juice too if you wanted to. My son will only

> drink milk and water.

>

> HTH,

> Jackie---

> PS: you can google the brain and lecithin and get some good reads

>

>

> > Does anyone here use Lecithin? What has it helped for you?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Egg yolk is the only other form they make it in. I did a quick search on

it and here is what I found.

http://www.evitamins.com/product.asp?pid=3988

I have asked this and you get different responses from different people, but

many have indicated that the soy lecithin is okay on a SF diet. I will have

to ask my ND next time I see him. But on some GFCF groups I am on they say

soy lecithin is not the same as regular soy. I haven't paid much attention

as we haven't had to remove it out of our diet yet.

Jackie---

> Can we find non-soy based lecithin?

[Guest guest]

If there are any thyroid problems, at all, then soy is not recommended. I

never heard that soy lecithin is not the same thing as regular soy.

Re: Lecithin

> Egg yolk is the only other form they make it in. I did a quick search on

> it and here is what I found.

> http://www.evitamins.com/product.asp?pid=3988

>

> I have asked this and you get different responses from different people,

> but

> many have indicated that the soy lecithin is okay on a SF diet. I will

> have

> to ask my ND next time I see him. But on some GFCF groups I am on they

> say

> soy lecithin is not the same as regular soy. I haven't paid much

> attention

> as we haven't had to remove it out of our diet yet.

>

> Jackie---

>

>> Can we find non-soy based lecithin?

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

I think this is one of the sources which people may have gotten information

from.

http://www.pccnaturalmarkets.com/health/Diet/Soy_Free_Diet.htm It indicated

this:

" Lecithin (extracted from soy oil, though safe for a majority of

soy-allergic people) "

Here is another source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lecithin

I will again ask my ND what he has learned about soy lecithin. Many people

on the gfcf recipe group agreed that soy lecithin was okay even in a soy

free diet. I will see what else they have found too.

We will all have to look to see just how reactive we are to certain foods

and talk to which ever doctor, ND or DAN! to get another opinion. The above

reference says 'majority of' which we all know is not everyone! I will have

to look at some other resources I have in books later too.

Jackie----

-------------------------------------------------------

> If there are any thyroid problems, at all, then soy is not recommended. I

> never heard that soy lecithin is not the same thing as regular soy.

>

>

> ------------------------------------------------------

>> Egg yolk is the only other form they make it in. I did a quick search

>> on

>> it and here is what I found.

>> http://www.evitamins.com/product.asp?pid=3988

>>

>> I have asked this and you get different responses from different people,

>> but many have indicated that the soy lecithin is okay on a SF diet. I

>> will

>> have to ask my ND next time I see him. But on some GFCF groups I am on

>> they

>> say soy lecithin is not the same as regular soy. I haven't paid much

>> attention as we haven't had to remove it out of our diet yet.

>>

>> Jackie---

>>

>>> Can we find non-soy based lecithin?

[Guest guest]

Jackie,

Thanks for the information. Wasn't thinking allergy, but that the figure for

hypothyroidism among our kids is given at 80%. Soy is not good for the

thyroid, but don't know if a little lecithin would hurt. We do lots of eggs

and there is a lot of lecithin in those. Also, soy in Natural E, but we give

that also.

Again, very informative,

Re: Lecithin

> ,

> I think this is one of the sources which people may have gotten

> information

> from.

> http://www.pccnaturalmarkets.com/health/Diet/Soy_Free_Diet.htm It

> indicated

> this:

> " Lecithin (extracted from soy oil, though safe for a majority of

> soy-allergic people) "

>

> Here is another source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lecithin

>

> I will again ask my ND what he has learned about soy lecithin. Many

> people

> on the gfcf recipe group agreed that soy lecithin was okay even in a soy

> free diet. I will see what else they have found too.

>

> We will all have to look to see just how reactive we are to certain foods

> and talk to which ever doctor, ND or DAN! to get another opinion. The

> above

> reference says 'majority of' which we all know is not everyone! I will

> have

> to look at some other resources I have in books later too.

>

> Jackie----

> -------------------------------------------------------

>> If there are any thyroid problems, at all, then soy is not recommended. I

>> never heard that soy lecithin is not the same thing as regular soy.

>>

>>

>> ------------------------------------------------------

>>> Egg yolk is the only other form they make it in. I did a quick search

>>> on

>>> it and here is what I found.

>>> http://www.evitamins.com/product.asp?pid=3988

>>>

>>> I have asked this and you get different responses from different people,

>>> but many have indicated that the soy lecithin is okay on a SF diet. I

>>> will

>>> have to ask my ND next time I see him. But on some GFCF groups I am on

>>> they

>>> say soy lecithin is not the same as regular soy. I haven't paid much

>>> attention as we haven't had to remove it out of our diet yet.

>>>

>>> Jackie---

>>>

>>>> Can we find non-soy based lecithin?

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

We use the following without adverse results. We began the lecithin

in the past month[thanks to another mom's posting!] and is the only

one we've been able to use without seizures resulting.

Soy free, egg based lecithin

http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/en/browse/sku_detail.jsp?id=NT-

1631

Soy free, vit E

http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/en/browse/sku_detail.jsp?id=GC-

1002#prodInfo

>

> Jackie,

>

> Thanks for the information. Wasn't thinking allergy, but that the

figure for

> hypothyroidism among our kids is given at 80%. Soy is not good

for the

> thyroid, but don't know if a little lecithin would hurt. We do

lots of eggs

> and there is a lot of lecithin in those. Also, soy in Natural E,

but we give

> that also.

>

> Again, very informative,

>

>

> Re: Lecithin

>

>

> > ,

> > I think this is one of the sources which people may have gotten

> > information

> > from.

> > http://www.pccnaturalmarkets.com/health/Diet/Soy_Free_Diet.htm

It

> > indicated

> > this:

> > " Lecithin (extracted from soy oil, though safe for a majority of

> > soy-allergic people) "

> >

> > Here is another source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lecithin

> >

> > I will again ask my ND what he has learned about soy lecithin.

Many

> > people

> > on the gfcf recipe group agreed that soy lecithin was okay even

in a soy

> > free diet. I will see what else they have found too.

> >

> > We will all have to look to see just how reactive we are to

certain foods

> > and talk to which ever doctor, ND or DAN! to get another

opinion. The

> > above

> > reference says 'majority of' which we all know is not everyone!

I will

> > have

> > to look at some other resources I have in books later too.

> >

> > Jackie----

> > -------------------------------------------------------

> >> If there are any thyroid problems, at all, then soy is not

recommended. I

> >> never heard that soy lecithin is not the same thing as regular

soy.

> >>

> >>

> >> ------------------------------------------------------

> >>> Egg yolk is the only other form they make it in. I did a

quick search

> >>> on

> >>> it and here is what I found.

> >>> http://www.evitamins.com/product.asp?pid=3988

> >>>

> >>> I have asked this and you get different responses from

different people,

> >>> but many have indicated that the soy lecithin is okay on a SF

diet. I

> >>> will

> >>> have to ask my ND next time I see him. But on some GFCF

groups I am on

> >>> they

> >>> say soy lecithin is not the same as regular soy. I haven't

paid much

> >>> attention as we haven't had to remove it out of our diet yet.

> >>>

> >>> Jackie---

> >>>

> >>>> Can we find non-soy based lecithin?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

On that wikipedia page, I noticed a mention of lecithin derived from

sunflower seed oil. I googled sunflower lecithin and and found out

that lecithin is indeed also being derived from both sunflower and

canola oils. However, so far, all I can find for sale to consumers

(not the food industry) is sunflower lecithin in fish gelatin

capsules from the UK:

http://www.auravita.com/products/aura/BIOA128190.asp?

RefId=800 & adid=BIOA128190

Perhaps someone will find this info helpful.

Best wishes,

Lalita

On Mar 12, 2006, at 7:20 AM, Jackie Hines wrote:

> ,

> I think this is one of the sources which people may have gotten

> information

> from.

> http://www.pccnaturalmarkets.com/health/Diet/Soy_Free_Diet.htm It

> indicated

> this:

> " Lecithin (extracted from soy oil, though safe for a majority of

> soy-allergic people) "

>

> Here is another source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lecithin

[Guest guest]

Yes, granulated Lecithin is much better than L capsules. " Scientific

studies have shown that lecithin has the ability to break up

cholesterol into small particles which can be easily handled by the

system. " http://www.femhealth.com/Lecithin.html

Good for brain and breaking up fats = good!

KP

> > --- Joy Harings <theheelingtouch2000@>

> > wrote:

> >

> > > What exactly is lecithin and is it good or bad? I

> > > have read many different things when doing a google

> > > search on it. Thanks!

> > >

> > >

> > > Healing Waggs,

> > > joy

> > > http://www.theheelingtouch.com/

> > > YL#764-672

> > > dogdrops/

[Guest guest]

For some people it causes the Chinese hung chow syndrome.

Best Regards, Ratliff

in La Chorrera, Panama

Re: lecithin

Yes, granulated Lecithin is much better than L capsules. " Scientific

studies have shown that lecithin has the ability to break up

cholesterol into small particles which can be easily handled by the

system. " http://www.femhealth.com/Lecithin.html

Good for brain and breaking up fats = good!

KP

> > --- Joy Harings <theheelingtouch2000@>

> > wrote:

> >

> > > What exactly is lecithin and is it good or bad? I

> > > have read many different things when doing a google

> > > search on it. Thanks!

> > >

> > >

> > > Healing Waggs,

> > > joy

> > > http://www.theheelingtouch.com/

> > > YL#764-672

> > > dogdrops/