Guest guest Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 In using the NACD toothette I discovered my son's connecting piece of flesh that connects the gum to the inside of the top lip is connected from the center of his teeth. Daughter's is low also, at very top of the center of the front teeth. Is there any known medical significance to this? Is this like a cleft palate thing??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Gosh, Liz, I cannot rember the name of this, but I believe it has been known to cause a problem and sometimes it has been clipped. My nephew had this done. I had Charlie's checked and we are good. [ ] Top lip In using the NACD toothette I discovered my son's connecting piece of flesh that connects the gum to the inside of the top lip is connected from the center of his teeth. Daughter's is low also, at very top of the center of the front teeth. Is there any known medical significance to this? Is this like a cleft palate thing??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Who checks this? > > Gosh, Liz, I cannot rember the name of this, but I believe it has been known > to cause a problem and sometimes it has been clipped. My nephew had this > done. I had Charlie's checked and we are good. > > > > [ ] Top lip > > > > In using the NACD toothette I discovered my son's connecting piece of > flesh that connects the gum to the inside of the top lip is connected > from the center of his teeth. Daughter's is low also, at very top of the > center of the front teeth. Is there any known medical significance to > this? Is this like a cleft palate thing??? > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 Miche- Living through TWO breastfeeding babies who had VERY tight frenulums-- I am thankful that the mother was able to go somewhere else. My now 5 yr old had a very small and VERY tight frenulum and at the time, we didn't really know it. We had SEVERE breastfeeding issues. Basically-- the tongue cannot reach the roof of the mouth the way it NEEDS to for a breastfed baby to properly suckle. This poor baby was at the breast literally all day long, suckling as hard as he could, and basically would work off most (if not all) that he ate in a sitting). At 5 mos of age he was almost diagnosed as failure to thrive. I knew this wasn't the problem, as I had SEVERE SEVERE PAIN when he suckled-- and it wasn't normal. It was the most excruciating pain I've ever felt. Not only could he not suckle to get the milk properly-- he was at the breast all the time so it festered yeast, and the milk wasn't being pulled out of the ducts-- so we ended up having a severe case of Ductal Yeast-- which was worse than the improper suckling. It was enough to make a person want to die-- I kid you not! Finally-- at 5 mos of age-- we took him to the ENT, who outright said that he didn't think that it would make a difference, but since the child was not gaining weight at all, and he had a VERY tight frenulum, he would clip it. Immediately after that was done-- a miracle occurred-- I had NO PAIN while breastfeeding, and glory be-- the child could get the milk out! Then-- with my now 2 yr old, we had the tight frenulum all over again. (can someone just tell me that I lived through this for SOME reason? LOL) Within a week's time, due to the abnormal pain during BFing, we knew right away and he was clipped within 1 1/2 wks. The ENT doubted that anything would work-- and said that " we usually wait until the child has some sort of speech issues and then clip it " -- @@ and I just said, look at my other son's chart and tell me if you change your mind. He clipped it and shut up! heeheheh But my point to him was a very valid one. A child starts to speak almost at birth-- once they utter sounds and little peeps, they are learning how to speak properly. I asked him-- doesn't it make sense that they clip the problem in the bud (pardon the pun) BEFORE there are speech issues, because it saves many years of issues, and self-assurance problems, needless to say it saves hundreds if not thousands of $$ for speech therapy that's not necessary if it's taken care of. My now 5 yr old DOES have speech issues-- for what it's worth. He's been on the waiting list to go to an SLP at the CCD where Asa goes. It's not going to be the same sort of issue as Asa's Apraxia, of course-- but it's not going to go away without a LOT of work, that's for sure Moral of my long-drawn out story??? LOL If there's a short frenulum-- find an ENT that will agree to clip it! Becky In a message dated 6/4/2008 9:38:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, miche37@... writes: It's called a frenulum. There is one under the tongue, and one connecting gums to lower teeth and one connecting gums to upper teeth. In my work as a breastfeeding counsellor I've seen two babies with tight tongue frenulums that impaired breastfeeding. My husband had a tight one on his bottom lip and it was causing his gums to recede and pull away. For the babies one had it clipped by his pediatrician and the other had an ENT refuse to clip it saying it was " stretchy " and wouldn't hurt nursing (huh? It WAS a problem!) **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch " Cooking with Tyler Florence " on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4? & NCID=aolfod00030000000002) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 An ENT would check this out. my son had a frenulectomy done @15 months.the skin under his tongue was too tight.-darcy -------------- Original message -------------- From: " ilizzy03 " <lizlaw@...> Who checks this? > > Gosh, Liz, I cannot rember the name of this, but I believe it has been known > to cause a problem and sometimes it has been clipped. My nephew had this > done. I had Charlie's checked and we are good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 It's called a frenulum. There is one under the tongue, and one connecting gums to lower teeth and one connecting gums to upper teeth. In my work as a breastfeeding counsellor I've seen two babies with tight tongue frenulums that impaired breastfeeding. My husband had a tight one on his bottom lip and it was causing his gums to recede and pull away. For the babies one had it clipped by his pediatrician and the other had an ENT refuse to clip it saying it was " stretchy " and wouldn't hurt nursing (huh? It WAS a problem!) but I referred her to the other pediatrician and he did it. My husband's was noticed in adulthood by his dentist and he was sent to an oral surgeon. Tight frenulums can impede speech so it's worth getting checked out. Babies don't seem to notice it much and my husband's only hurt for about half a day. If you want more info on what a tight frenulum can do check out Dr. Palmer, DDS website. http://www.brianpalmerdds.com/bfeed_frenulums.htm This is in particular about breastfeeding, but it also includes pictures and discusses other issues than can involve from tight frenulums. He has a warning on the slide show presentation, but I'll add it here. There are pictures of cadaver dissections to demonstrate what he is discussing, including a front view of the head of a fetus as well as cross-sections, so if you would have a hard time seeing that beware. Miche On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 6:49 PM, Liz <lizlaw@...> wrote: > In using the NACD toothette I discovered my son's connecting piece of > flesh that connects the gum to the inside of the top lip is connected > from the center of his teeth. Daughter's is low also, at very top of the > center of the front teeth. Is there any known medical significance to > this? Is this like a cleft palate thing??? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 Interesting. The ENT we have seen since was born never looked. > > An ENT would check this out. my son had a frenulectomy done @15 months.the skin under his tongue was too tight.-darcy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 A very generous post. It is messing his pucker up and drinking. Thanks! > > > In using the NACD toothette I discovered my son's connecting piece of > > flesh that connects the gum to the inside of the top lip is connected > > from the center of his teeth. Daughter's is low also, at very top of the > > center of the front teeth. Is there any known medical significance to > > this? Is this like a cleft palate thing??? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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