Guest guest Posted December 13, 2000 Report Share Posted December 13, 2000 I wondered if anyone had advice/experience > about dealing with exemptions at the preschool level. We may enroll > him next fall. > My oldest daughter's first year at co-op preschool we got a form from the local Health Dept (it was blue,like a card) which stated that we objected to vaxes for " religious reasons " - very vague. By the time her second year rolled around (it's a three year program, kind of like Montessori) I was alot more educated on the vax issues and so we typed a letter, citing our state's religious exemption statute, and skipped the trip to the Health Dept. THIS year we got even more radical, with dh and I refusing the " mandatory " TB test for parents and claiming religious exemptions for the whole family. Surprisingly, we've gotten no flack for these decisions despite the conservative medical community we live in. Namaste, Gretchen ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2000 Report Share Posted December 14, 2000 Sign the back of the Calif immunization form, waiving the shots. That's what I did for my kids, they will get NO MORE shots! At 08:40 PM 12/13/00 -0000, you wrote: >We have a 15month old son and have chosen not to vaccinate. We live >in California, so I understand exemptions at the public school are >not much of a problem. I wondered if anyone had advice/experience >about dealing with exemptions at the preschool level. We may enroll >him next fall. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2000 Report Share Posted December 19, 2000 I plan to enroll him in > preschool at age 2 and wondered if anyone has experience with > exemptions. Should I expect to be refused enrollment at most places? I encountered this when I was offered a position to teach part time at a preschool/day-care and was not able to take the position because my children are not vaxed. Hindsight being 20/20, I'm glad I didn't but anyway, to answer your question.... I think it will depend on your state. In Montana there are religious and medical exemptions for schools, but only medical exemptions for licensed child-care facilities. I would certainly ask around or perhaps you could find an in-home day care, perhaps a friend, who is aware and accepting of your position on vaccinations. Best of luck to you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2000 Report Share Posted December 19, 2000 it just depends on where you live. if you live in a state with a philos. exemption, than you just sign a box saying so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2000 Report Share Posted December 19, 2000 ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: rgf@... Reply-Vaccinationsegroups Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 17:58:48 -0000 I have had both my boys in a preschool and it happened to be one at a church, and if THEY don't take religious exemptions, who will? They gave me no problems at all. But as usual, it all depends... if they are catholic they told me I had to have my son get his shot or not come back...he didn't go back. This first one was a Methodist church I think, can't remember and it has only been a whole year...*L* >I tried to post this before and don't think it worked -- I have a 15 >month old son and have not vaccinated. I plan to enroll him in >preschool at age 2 and wondered if anyone has experience with >exemptions. Should I expect to be refused enrollment at most places? > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2000 Report Share Posted December 19, 2000 What state are you in? Sheri -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA 530-272-7306 http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm " All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men ( & women) do nothing " ...Edmund Burke ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education KVMR Broadcaster/Programmer/Investigative Reporter, Nevada City CA CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2000 Report Share Posted December 19, 2000 In Nebraska there is a state form you fill out that works for day-cares and schools. You don't even have to specify your exemption as medical, religious, or philosophical (yes, we have a philosophical exemption here). BTW, for a Catholic location, you should be able to " argue " your decision and be allowed in. I asked a lot about this earlier because we intend to send our children whom won't have full vaccinations (first daughter has had some before we researched the topic). While the Catholic church has no specific writings against vaccination, the fact that several use aborted fetal tissue and the whole issue of putting chemicals in your body (which is against teaching " your body is a temple " ) and the Moral Conscience should all be overwhelming evidence of why you should be allowed not to vaccinate yet still participate in the day-care or school. Speak to the associated priest or highest " order " person there, not a layperson because they don't know and they don't care. Adrienne At 02:12 PM 12/19/00 -0500, you wrote: >---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >From: rgf@... >Reply-Vaccinationsegroups >Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 17:58:48 -0000 > >I have had both my boys in a preschool and it happened to be one >at a church, and if THEY don't take religious exemptions, who will? >They gave me no problems at all. But as usual, it all depends... >if they are catholic they told me I had to have my son get his >shot or not come back...he didn't go back. This first one was a >Methodist church I think, can't remember and it has only been a >whole year...*L* > > > >I tried to post this before and don't think it worked -- I have a 15 > >month old son and have not vaccinated. I plan to enroll him in > >preschool at age 2 and wondered if anyone has experience with > >exemptions. Should I expect to be refused enrollment at most places? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2000 Report Share Posted December 19, 2000 At 12:31 AM 12/20/2000 -0000, you wrote: >Thanks for the responses, I am in southern california which I know at >public school level you can do philosophical and religious >exemptions, but I don't know if you can do that at preschool or not... > Yes, you can. You just show them a copy of the law if they give you any trouble. However, private ones sometimes can do what they want but usually won't hassle if you show the law. Just be confident and sincere and matter-of-fact about it. http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/waisgate?WAISdocID=2536421754+1+0+0 & WAISac tion=retrieve NOTE 120325 10c and note 120365 - KNOW Your rights. Print this out and have the person write their letter and give both to the school. Sheri CALIFORNIA CODES HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE SECTION 120325-120380 120325. In enacting Chapter 1 (commencing with Section 120325, but excluding Section 120380) and in enacting Sections 120400, 120405, 120410, and 120415, it is the intent of the Legislature to provide: (a) A means for the eventual achievement of total immunization of appropriate age groups against the following childhood diseases: (1) Diphtheria. (2) Hepatitis B. (3) Haemophilus influenzae type b. (4) Measles. (5) Mumps. (6) Pertussis (whooping cough). (7) Poliomyelitis. (8) Rubella. (9) Tetanus. (10) Any other disease that is consistent with the most current recommendations of the United States Public Health Services' Centers for Disease Control Immunization Practices Advisory Committee and the American Academy of Pediatrics Committee of Infectious Diseases, and deemed appropriate by the department. ( That the persons required to be immunized be allowed to obtain immunizations from whatever medical source they so desire, subject only to the condition that the immunization be performed in accordance with the regulations of the department and that a record of the immunization is made in accordance with the regulations. © Exemptions from immunization for medical reasons or because of personal beliefs. (d) For the keeping of adequate records of immunization so that health departments, schools, and other institutions, parents or guardians, and the persons immunized will be able to ascertain that a child is fully or only partially immunized, and so that appropriate public agencies will be able to ascertain the immunization needs of groups of children in schools or other institutions. (e) Incentives to public health authorities to design innovative and creative programs that will promote and achieve full and timely immunization of children. 120330. The department, in consultation with the Department of Education, shall adopt and enforce all regulations necessary to carry out Chapter 1 (commencing with Section 120325, but excluding Section 120380) and to carry out Sections 120400, 120405, 120410, and 120415. 120335. (a) As used in Chapter 1 (commencing with Section 120325, but excluding Section 120380), and as used in Sections 120400, 120405, 120410, and 120415, the term " governing authority " means the governing board of each school district or the authority of each other private or public institution responsible for the operation and control of the institution or the principal or administrator of each school or institution. ( The governing authority shall not unconditionally admit any person as a pupil of any private or public elementary or secondary school, child care center, day nursery, nursery school, family day care home, or development center, unless prior to his or her first admission to that institution he or she has been fully immunized. The following are the diseases for which immunizations shall be documented: (1) Diphtheria. (2) Haemophilus influenzae type b, except for children who have reached the age of four years and six months. (3) Measles. (4) Mumps, except for children who have reached the age of seven years. (5) Pertussis (whooping cough), except for children who have reached the age of seven years. (6) Poliomyelitis. (7) Rubella. (8) Tetanus. (9) Hepatitis B for all children entering the institutions listed in this subdivision at the kindergarten level or below on or after August 1, 1997. (10) Any other disease deemed appropriate by the department, taking into consideration the recommendations of the United States Public Health Services' Centers for Disease Control Immunization Practices Advisory Committee and the American Academy of Pediatrics Committee of Infectious Diseases. © On and after July 1, 1999, the governing authority shall not unconditionally admit any pupil to the 7th grade level, nor unconditionally advance any pupil to the 7th grade level, of any of the institutions listed in subdivision ( unless the pupil has been fully immunized against hepatitis B. (d) The department may specify the immunizing agents which may be utilized and the manner in which immunizations are administered. 120340. A person who has not been fully immunized against one or more of the diseases listed in Section 120335 may be admitted by the governing authority on condition that within time periods designated by regulation of the department he or she presents evidence that he or she has been fully immunized against all of these diseases. 120345. The immunizations required by Chapter 1 (commencing with Section 120325, but excluding Section 120380) and required by Sections 120400, 120405, 120410, and 120415 may be obtained from any private or public source desired if the immunization is administered and records are made in accordance with regulations of the department. 120350. The county health officer of each county shall organize and maintain a program to make immunizations available to all persons required by Chapter 1 (commencing with Section 120325, but excluding Section 120380) and required by Sections 120400, 120405, 120410, and 120415 to be immunized. The county health officer shall also determine how the cost of the program is to be recovered. To the extent that the cost to the county is in excess of that sum recovered from persons immunized, the cost shall be paid by the county in the same manner as other expenses of the county are paid. 120355. Any person or organization administering immunizations shall furnish each person immunized, or his or her parent or guardian, with a written record of immunization given in a form prescribed by the department. 120360. The requirements of Chapter 1 (commencing with Section 120325, but excluding Section 120380) and of Sections 120400, 120405, 120410, and 120415 shall not apply to any person 18 years of age or older, or to any person seeking admission to a community college. 120365. Immunization of a person shall not be required for admission to a school or other institution listed in Section 120335 if the parent or guardian or adult who has assumed responsibility for his or her care and custody in the case of a minor, or the person seeking admission if an emancipated minor, files with the governing authority a letter or affidavit stating that the immunization is contrary to his or her beliefs. However, whenever there is good cause to believe that the person has been exposed to one of the communicable diseases listed in subdivision (a) of Section 120325, that person may be temporarily excluded from the school or institution until the local health officer is satisfied that the person is no longer at risk of developing the disease. 120370. If the parent or guardian files with the governing authority a written statement by a licensed physician to the effect that the physical condition of the child is such, or medical circumstances relating to the child are such, that immunization is not considered safe, indicating the specific nature and probable duration of the medical condition or circumstances that contraindicate immunization, that person shall be exempt from the requirements of Chapter 1 (commencing with Section 120325, but excluding Section 120380) and Sections 120400, 120405, 120410, and 120415 to the extent indicated by the physician's statement. 120375. (a) The governing authority of each school or institution included in Section 120335 shall require documentary proof of each entrant's immunization status. The governing authority shall record the immunizations of each new entrant in the entrant's permanent enrollment and scholarship record on a form provided by the department. The immunization record of each new entrant admitted conditionally shall be reviewed periodically by the governing authority to ensure that within the time periods designated by regulation of the department he or she has been fully immunized against all of the diseases listed in Section 120335, and immunizations received subsequent to entry shall be added to the pupil's immunization record. ( The governing authority of each school or institution included in Section 120335 shall prohibit from further attendance any pupil admitted conditionally who failed to obtain the required immunizations within the time limits allowed in the regulations of the department, unless the pupil is exempted under Section 120365 or 120370, until that pupil has been fully immunized against all of the diseases listed in Section 120335. © The governing authority shall file a written report on the immunization status of new entrants to the school or institution under their jurisdiction with the department and the local health department at times and on forms prescribed by the department. As provided in paragraph (4) of subdivision (a) of Section 49076 of the Education Code, the local health department shall have access to the complete health information as it relates to immunization of each student in the schools or other institutions listed in Section 120335 in order to determine immunization deficiencies. (d) The governing authority shall cooperate with the county health officer in carrying out programs for the immunization of persons applying for admission to any school or institution under its jurisdiction. The governing board of any school district may use funds, property, and personnel of the district for that purpose. The governing authority of any school or other institution may permit any licensed physician or any qualified registered nurse as provided in Section 2727.3 of the Business and Professions Code to administer immunizing agents to any person seeking admission to any school or institution under its jurisdiction. 120380. It is the intent of the Legislature that the administration of immunizing agents by registered nurses in school immunization programs under the direction of a supervising physician and surgeon as provided in Sections 49403 and 49426 of the Education Code shall be in accordance with accepted medical procedure. To implement this intent, the department may adopt written regulations specifying the procedures and circumstances under which a registered nurse, acting under the direction of a supervising physician and surgeon, may administer an immunizing agent pursuant to Sections 49403 and 49426 of the Education Code. However, nothing in this section shall be construed to prevent any registered nurse from administering an immunizing agent in accordance with Sections 49403 and 49426 of the Education Code in the absence of written regulations as the department is authorized to adopt under this section. -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA 530-272-7306 http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm " All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men ( & women) do nothing " ...Edmund Burke ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education KVMR Broadcaster/Programmer/Investigative Reporter, Nevada City CA CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2000 Report Share Posted December 20, 2000 In a message dated 12/20/00 11:28:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, bluheron@... writes: << Pre schools are run privately some times >> This is true of my son's preschool. It's privately run and they only require a letter stating that we don't vaccinate. PERIOD! Kerin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2000 Report Share Posted December 20, 2000 ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: rgf@... Reply-Vaccinationsegroups Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 00:31:59 -0000 Pre schools are run privately some times and they don't have to abide by state rules they can keep you out and that is it, OR they can let you in with no problems...it is a toss up. >Thanks for the responses, I am in southern california which I know at >public school level you can do philosophical and religious >exemptions, but I don't know if you can do that at preschool or not... > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Hello My name is Joanne and my son Corbin 30 months was diagnosed with verbal apraxia when he was about 20 months old. He currently receives speech therapy once a week through the early start program (he also has a unilateral hearing loss) and twice a week privately. We are looking for a suitable preschool for him (public or private) in or around the San , CA area. Any suggestions or schools to stay away from are greatly appreciated. I look forward to hearing from other parents and their experiences with preschools. Thanks, Joanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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