Re: Becky & fillings--oooh long reply

November 25, 2008

Nelia-

I am SO thinking that it's the PERFECT TIMING for you to ask me about

this!!!!

The reason is-- I am convinced that I have some really big issues with

mercury poisoning-- or whatever anyone wants to call it.

When they removed my fillings-- there were a few pieces that I caught

before they would have been swallowed/ingested. THANK GOD! They were large

enough

pieces that they should have seen, too! I was a bit surprised that they were

not more careful with the removal, because everyone knows how dangerous

mercury is-- RIGHT? <sigh>

But I still ingested the powder fumes and that's not too great

Anyway-- yes-- I was VERY concerned about it when I became pregnant almost

immediately after-- or found out right as it was all happening. I wish I

could tell you that I feel fine or that I have no concerns-- but that would be a

huge lie

I almost came on to the BioMed group that some here are on to ask them

about how to chelate the mercury safely from my system and also from the baby.

I

feel horrible, and I have since I had those fillings taken out. I am

exhausted beyond measure, and it doesn't go away. My body just HURTS and ACHES

like

the dickens, and it doesn't go away, and I am also struggling with PPD moreso

than ever before.

I just feel SICK-- not as in cold sick, but SICK SICK and I feel ill

overall. I had pretty much decided over the weekend that I would call my

Primary

Dr and ask them to run a blood test to see what the metal levels were, but I

have no idea what that blood test is called (anyone????) I really think it's

the mercury from the fillings because that's about how long I've been

feeling yucky.

Now-- about the baby-- again, I wish I could tell you that I had no

concerns-- but that would ALSO be a big lie!!! Having (already) two neuro kids

with

sensory issues-- I can now pick it up in a heartbeat and see things in other

kids when we're out and about-- etc.

Aramis was SUPER FUSSY for the first 3-4mos. He would cry when we went into

a store that had flourescent lighting or those bright lights (CFC lights)

JUST LIKE MY NEURO boys BOTH did! He literally cries from the moment I walk

into the store til the moment I walk out. (he HAS improved though). Not only

that, but he would scream the moment I put him into the carseat and drove til

the moment I took him out of the seat-- quite literally for the first (whole)

4 mos! Again-- JUST LIKE MY NEURO BOYS BOTH DID!

I think this is linked to the vestibular issues you'd see with sensory kids,

and the lighting of course is the sensitivity to lights you'd see. Also-- he

would react to any sudden noises and they would frighten him--not in a

typical newborn way, but differently. We nicknamed him " scaredy cat " because of

this! LOL

this again makes me think of noise sensitivity that you'd see with sensory

issues.

All of this is quite worrisome to me. NOW-- I will say that he's SUPER fast

with development-- he's ALREADY doing the whole crawling thing. He started the

military crawl (on the belly) at 4 mos, and was up on all fours 2 wks

later-- doing a lunge/hop thing, and now he's doing a full crawl/creeping--

*BUT*

BUT BUT

I've started getting concerned about HOW he's creeping, because he's

starting to lift his legs UP and not do the correct cross-pattern motion that IS

VITAL!!! (AGAIN like both my neuro boys!!!!)

So yes-- I'm concerned and I've seen enough sensory issues to get worried

and start praying for the little guy. With the creeping-- I spoke with the

Neuro chiro that is working with our 9 1/2 yr old (ADHD and possible Aspie) and

he said that I can't STOP the baby from crawling/creeping, so it's best to

flop him on his back and force a cross pattern mimick type thing as a therapy

to

at least get him to crawl the RIGHT WAY to avoid serious issues in the long

run. So-- it's a bit funny, but we're doing PT exercises with a 5 mos old!

LOL And it's interesting to get 2 people to do that motion in the right timing

and speed, too! LOL

I don't know what is to come-- but I PRAY that there won't be any issues

with him and that this is only me overreacting. (I'm not-- because the issues

are definitely there) but I pray that it won't be a PROBLEM in the long term.

I do need to figure out what can get this mercury out of my system though.

My sister swears that the Waiora NCD and Agarigold would do it-- and it's 100%

safe for me AND baby (even if given directly) so it can't hurt to try it. If

anyone else has any suggestions, I'm open to hearing it-- he's 5 mos and is

11 1/2 lbs (tiny guy) and I'm not sure what else is out there that's safe.

What would I recommend you doing?? Do something that I didn't do and that I

seriously regret--- get them taken out by a highly trained dentist that does

this holisitically and RIGHT! I had someone tell me that in order to do it

the right way you're supposed to be hooked up to an IV or something-- I bet you

could search on the proper way and the healthiest way to get them taken

out. But-- if you can't find anyone to do it in the area, then I would NOT

suggest getting them taken out til after you've had the baby and have weaned.

I really wish that I hadn't been so impatient to get my teeth done-- and I'm

not exactly sure WHY I was at the time-- <sigh>

It is what it is

those are my thoughts-- sorry you asked?

Bek

In a message dated 11/25/2008 1:37:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

nelia_nunes@... writes:

Hi Becky,

This is going to sound very random, but I was searching on this board

for " mercury fillings " and reading the posts that came up with those

words in them. I was doing that because I just recently got 2 silver

fillings removed and we want to start trying for baby #2 and I am

trying to figure out how long I should wait before we start trying. We

REALLY want to start trying ASAP. We've put off trying for a year due

to various things that I won't bore you with! Anyways, I noticed a

post from last year where you said you had fillings removed right

before getting pregnant and you were worried about that. I see that

little Aramis was born a few months ago (congrats!!)little Aramis was bor

asking if you see any delays or sensory issues with Aramis (that could

be a result of the fillings being removed)? What did you do, if

anything, to remove the mercury from your system? I saw that someone

recommended Epson salts?

Thank you!

Nelia

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November 26, 2008

Becky wrote,

I think this is linked to the vestibular issues you'd see with sensory kids,

and the lighting of course is the sensitivity to lights you'd see. Also-- he

would react to any sudden noises and they would frighten him--not in a

typical newborn way, but differently. We nicknamed him " scaredy cat " because

of

this! LOL

==== This would be the 'startle' reflex that should be inhibited sometime

after the first few months. I would work to try to inhibit this reflex with

him. When you find that an action startles him to 'tears', calm him, and then

perform the act again. Does he tear up or does he 'anticipate', if he tears up,

then calm him and do it again.... can he now anticipate what mommy is going to

do? Work with this for this should be inhibited in him by now.

=====Becky, you might want to think about doing some pleoptics with him to

stimulate his vision and pupil retraction from bright to dark, dark to bright.

All of this is quite worrisome to me. NOW-- I will say that he's SUPER fast

with development-- he's ALREADY doing the whole crawling thing. He started the

military crawl (on the belly) at 4 mos, and was up on all fours 2 wks

later-- doing a lunge/hop thing, and now he's doing a full crawl/creeping--

*BUT*

BUT BUT

I've started getting concerned about HOW he's creeping, because he's

starting to lift his legs UP and not do the correct cross-pattern motion that

IS

VITAL!!! (AGAIN like both my neuro boys!!!!)

===== When he did the military crawl, was it cross patterned or was it

homo-lateral i.e. one sided? When you catch him creeping incorrectly, STOP HIM!

Reposition his hands so that he is NOT flexing his elbows outwards, fingers

should be flat on the ground facing forwards and you might even try slowing him

down (impossible maybe?) so that you can help him place his opposing arm to rest

with his opposing leg. That might be a tough one and you may just have to

continue to watch and get him to log a lot of miles on the floor so that this

will right itself.

For vision, what some people do is to put brightly colored tape on the childs

hands so that they will work their near point vision (by seeing the tape) and

transitioning to far point vision as they look where they are going.

I would try to encourage him to stay on the floor and to keep on creeping

until you see a nice proficient creep for at least a couple of months. Move all

of the tables and chairs to prevent him from 'cruising' if you have to! You know

what to look for so don't let him progress to the next stage of development

until you see that he has mastered the current stage of development..... okay?

I have a book for you to buy; It's called " Reflexes, Learning and Behaviour "

by Sally Goddard and it goes through all of the primitve birth reflexes and how

they are eventually inhibited to develop appropriate postoral reflexes.

If you work to get proper transition from birth reflexes to postoral reflexes,

you can save him and yourself a lot of grief down the road!

How is his poop? I would delay the introduction of solid foods for as long as

is feasible. For sure, I wouldn't introduce milk or gluten products until about

8 months after the recommended time period.... no need to rush this.... just

ensure that you've got a nice immune system developing. I would also look into

getting some probiotics into him so that you can begin to establish good gut

flora RIGHT AWAY! In addition, please take a look at your vaccination schedule

and think about doing the safe vaccination schedule.... I think that

Cave has one available on her site? Not sure but do rethink how you're going to

vaccinate.... separating shots and such.

Also, no vaccinating if he even has the SNIFFLES!!! Make sure that he is

healthy, strong and vibrant on vaccination days and DON'T use tylenol as it

suppresses glutathione in the immune system. I have actually heard that some

doctors recommend giving the baby's a little glutathione in either liposomal

form or by just putting some powder around the breast while nursing in the days

prior to vaccinating to get that immune system really 'working' at optimal

levels before the shots.

About that mercury issue.... that is a DAN question for sure! Do you have a

DAN doctor yet? I would think about contacting a Rescue Angel for questions on

this. Those gals know their stuff!

You may want to join the chelatingkids2 board and ask this

question there as well. There are some owners of supplement companies on that

board who are extremely knowledgeable (though they don't post very much).

Hope this gives you some ideas.... I know that probably will have

some sound advice as to what you should do about the mercury....

Janice

Mother of Mark, 13