Guest guest Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 , Milk is a pretty sensititve topic on this particular site. In my family, we are casen free, as my son has a severe sensitivity to it. It has saved him from having ashma, I believe among sooo many other things. Oh and Yes, you can substitute different types of milk in cooking. If you lean more toward the biomed side, as many find their gains with this, you may want to consider the Group ApraxiaDyspraxiaBiomed Support. There you will find several people from this site who lean more toward biomed intervention. My favorite book is: Healing the New Chilhood Epidemics: 4 A disorder, By Dr. Bock, Changing the Course of Autism, by Dr. Jepson. You may want to check out the site www.kellydorfman.com I hope this helps! Colleen Mother of Charlie 3 years [ ] Diet ???s I've heard about a casein free diet, but didn't really know what casein is, so I did a quick search on it-nothing too intense. I found out that it is basically a milk allergy - different than an intolerance. While researching, I came across the GFCF diet and found it to be fascinating and am seriously considering going on it - due to hubby's intestinal issues (IBS +), my allergy issues (I've had a rash for over a year now and have a referral to an allergist and just had " the patch test " done as well as the blood work for food allergies, my other son's allergy issues (constant runny nose and being put on claritin by conventional doctor), as well my child with apraxia. (It is funny that neither child is biological to me and they both seem to have allergies like me.) -So we are on a milk-free diet, recommendation of our DAN doctor. I was wondering if anybody has any suggestions for the diet. I have used rice milk and almond milk and one child hates both and the other likes both. When cooking, can you use rice milk for all recipes or is the fat content of milk important? I looked up groups for any GFCF groups that could help with the GFCF diet and I found most of the recipes had either butter in them -some even had " cream of " soups. This is not milk free. Any suggestions for books, websites, or anything else! Thanks ahead of time! You gals are great!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 Hi , I have very little time so I will cut and paste from an older post to another mom, so take a look and see what applies to you--it includes the gluten free diet info, but that is because it is rare that a child is intolerant to casein and not to gluten, they most often go hand in hand, both are proteins that are hard to digest once the intestinal permeability is compromised and they have a predilection to affect the brain--we've seen it with our daughter and so have so many parents. I will just say that for us the diet and right supplements have been amazing--her speech, her attention, ability to focus and comply, have all turned around completly with the help of the diet! Yes, both Husband and I apparently have a family history of autoimmune/ skin/neurologicalissues and these are most often diet connected. Here it is: " You will see the words Celiac, and autistic come up a lot in much of this literature. Please note that most apraxic kids do NOT necessarily have digestive symptoms, or the Celiac gene. It can be misleading to just go by that as there are multiple genes implicated in gluten intolerance and it can also be acquired, as in my case, which is still a genetically triggered intolerance when in contact with viral, bacterial, parasitic infections, or even antibiotics without a healthy follow up of probiotics, which call can create permeable intestines and thus enable the gluten to enter the blood stream and erode immune, neurological functioning establishing a heightened immune response from that moment on. The important take home message is that gluten/casein intolerances DO NOT GO AWAY!! Secondary intolerances developed due to the leaky gut can go away, but the gluten one especially is core and the gluten peptides have an affinity for the brain. So don't be misled by the Celiac label, or autistic labels, the fact remains gluten intolerance is much more common than modern clinical medicine thinks and is implicated in most neurological disorders of unknown etiology like autism, Parkinson, Alzheinmers' etc The research is all there, but clinical practice isn't big on diet and nutrition and still works with archaic lists and data as there is no real financial incentive for them to change, no vegetable salesman is going to knock on the doctors' door promising a free yearly supply of vegetables to everyone there in the office, and trips to Hawaii to learn more about the role of vegetables and to then push them on their patients. So you get the picture, the profit just isn't there so large scale clinical trials are difficult and confounding variables difficult to control for etc. Just not easy to do and NOT a money making proposition. Wheat on the other hand is a booming business as it is included in just about everything processed on the market and even in much of the restaurant foods too as it has a way of appearing in the most inconspicuous places. Read the Celiac.com link on how to avoid the gluten when eating out. So gluten intolerance is much more common than the food industry ever suspected--as almost everything processed--unless gluten free--contains a form of gluten either as anitcaking agent, or as thickener, flavor enhancer etc. Gosh, they even put it in some Salsas for some unearthly reason so always read your labels! I think the next decade will reveal a whole array of neurological/immune system disorders, as well as other organs often implicated as l the liver, the adrenals, the thyroid, and all these chronic degenerative disorders very often have gluten intolerance linked to them--if not as the initial cause, certainly as a complicating factor. Anyway, here are some links --some about the problem, some about the solution and click around. http://66.51.173.96/brain/allergy_brain.htm http://www.gfcfdiet.com/TheBigFAQ's.htm http://digestive.niddk.nih.gov/ddiseases/pubs/celiac/index.htm http://www.enabling.org/ia/celiac/basic.html#gfdiet http://gfcfdiet.com/Beginningthediet.htm http://www.livingwithout.com/recipes.html?gclid=CIjPh-ucipYCFQykagodiX_GEw http://ezinearticles.com/?Gluten-Free-Diet-Should-Be-Considered-For-Everyone-Wit\ h-Neurological-And-Psychiatric-Symptoms & id=450571 & opt=print http://healthnowmedical.com/info/gluten_science.html this is actually the medical practice I go to and they're getting ready to publish a book on the topic http://www.kellydorfman.com/pages/459019/index.htm http://www.kinnikinnick.com/index.cfm http://www.celiac.com/articles/711/1/MemoryLearning-Eating-to-Learn-How-Grains-I\ mpact-on-Our-Ability-to-Focus-Comprehend-Remember-Predict-and-Survive-by-Ron-Hog\ gan/Page1.html http://www.pecanbread.com/new/recipes1.html http://gfcf-diet.talkaboutcuringautism.org/just-because-it-is-gfcf.htm http://ezinearticles.com/?Understanding-the-Genetics-of-Gluten-Sensitivity & id=20\ 8573 http://bodyecology.com/08/04/12/why_celiacs_gluten_sensitivity_need_probiotic_li\ quids.php http://www.jgourmet.ca/ http://www.elanaspantry.com/recipes/ http://glutenfreegoddess.blogspot.com/2007/01/cooking-baking-gluten-free-tips-fo\ r.html http://www.kidswithfoodallergies.org/featured_recipes.html http://thefooddoc.blogspot.com/2007/02/gluten-causes-brain-dysfunction-and.html http://www.tccsg.com/celiacdisease.htm The Gluten Connection: How Gluten Sensitivity May be Sabotaging Your Health - and What you Can Do to Take Control NOW by Shari Lieberman, Ph.D., CNS, FACN.. http://www.globalgourmet.com/food/egg/egg0496/gluten.html http://www.gluten-free.com/ Keep in mind that for those with severely damaged intestines or persistent yeast etc. GFCF may not be enough and SCD diet (Specific Carbohydrate Diet) may be recommended. Oftentimes parents make the mistake of taking their kid off gluten and replacing all wheat products with corn, soy and rice and all of these are refined carbs that can still impair the immune system, Refined carbs should be reduced, soy most often avoided as most people intolerant to wheat cannot tolerate the soy peptides either and corn spikes the insulin level in the blood promoting inflammation just like rice, and potato--they're all starches and feed bad bacteria in us. So if at all possible limit the refined carbs, even those gluten free and increase, vegetables, leafy greens, healthy grass fed / free range organic meats and consider the dairy factor too. Not all gluten intolerant individuals are also casein intolerant but until the gut heals you want to avoid dairy too and try introducing it alter carefully, the raw preferred. Anyway, here's a chart that compares the major diets that have worked well for people with autoimmune, neurological, metabolic and digestive disorders. http://www.autismndi.com/docs/foodtable.pdf http://www.feingold.org/pg-overview.html http://curezone.com/diseases/epilepsy/ http://www.childrensdisabilities.info/allergies/dietdevelopmentaldisorders.html http://www.thebeewellcompany.com/NewFiles/Diet%20and%20Nutrition.pdf Hope you find these useful. My recommendation is that you try the diet and supplements based on tests that check for your child's specific metabolic issues since it really is important to prioritize the interventions and only a doctor who treats biomedically can interpret results, reactions and ensure that the path to healing is cleared. For us it has been a wonderful journey of discovery. We started with the diet first and made mistakes along the way of course but overall we saw improvements in attention, behavior and focus. We added some supplements and saw huge improvements especially with the B12 shots --often a major deficiency in gluten intolerant individuals, the PRO EFA/EPA + vitamin E have also made a HUGE surge and we're also working on detoxification as she seems to not detoxify mercury and other heavy metals as a normal child would. Again, related to malabsorptions most likely yeast, fatty acids etc.--so we're addressing that now as well and will start on the yeast soon which means going more toward the SCD diet at least for a while. there are so many options that clearly stand to benefit our children with metabolic disorders and possibly milder form of mitochondrial dysfunction as Dr. explained. Read her Apraxia 101 doc and presentation notes, those will also give you a good background in case you haven't already, they should be archived on the site. All the best, Elena -mom to Ziana age 4 --apraxic, but otherwise a happy healthy child and improving her speech every day now that appropriate PROMPT therapy, diet/ and supplements have all been implemented. From: by Capitola Mall <loveisfosteringhere@...> Subject: [ ] Diet ???s Date: Saturday, November 22, 2008, 8:53 PM I've heard about a casein free diet, but didn't really know what casein is, so I did a quick search on it-nothing too intense. I found out that it is basically a milk allergy - different than an intolerance. While researching, I came across the GFCF diet and found it to be fascinating and am seriously considering going on it - due to hubby's intestinal issues (IBS +), my allergy issues (I've had a rash for over a year now and have a referral to an allergist and just had " the patch test " done as well as the blood work for food allergies, my other son's allergy issues (constant runny nose and being put on claritin by conventional doctor), as well my child with apraxia. (It is funny that neither child is biological to me and they both seem to have allergies like me.) -So we are on a milk-free diet, recommendation of our DAN doctor. I was wondering if anybody has any suggestions for the diet. I have used rice milk and almond milk and one child hates both and the other likes both. When cooking, can you use rice milk for all recipes or is the fat content of milk important? I looked up groups for any GFCF groups that could help with the GFCF diet and I found most of the recipes had either butter in them -some even had " cream of " soups. This is not milk free. Any suggestions for books, websites, or anything else! Thanks ahead of time! You gals are great!!!! ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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