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I have had the qEEG done by Siber Imaging. I am hoping to get SSDI

as the test (patented) showed conclusively that I have the specific

brain signature for CFIDS/ FM.

http://www.siberimaging.com/

and an interview with Dr. Preston and Kim Philups details the hows

and whys of the procedure.

http://members.aol.com/rgm1/private/preston.htm

She has used it for proving toxic exposures in industry, but has not

used it for evaulating drugs, but has wanted to do so. I found this

out when I talked to her at my test.

I feel that it is not a ripoff, but make sure that you have the doc

show you documentation that it does work. Does he have blind studies

etc. Just claiming he can does not make it so

Who is the doctor that swears that he can target drug use. Do you

have any information about him, does he have a web site?

Ron

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I now have a scanned copy of the actual report available at:

http://photos./group/FluoridePoisoning/lst

A scanned version of the original report can be viewed in the photos

file . Click on the Preston-1 and then click on full size to be able

to read it. Then go to the next photo and do the same. It will also

print out, but make sure that you have it on full size.

I also made a recording of my phone consultation where Dr. Preston

explains in detail the entire report.

If you have questions - just ask!

Ron

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<rge@u...> wrote:

> ,

>

> I have had the qEEG done by Siber Imaging. I am hoping to get SSDI

> as the test (patented) showed conclusively that I have the specific

> brain signature for CFIDS/ FM.

>

> http://www.siberimaging.com/

>

> and an interview with Dr. Preston and Kim Philups details the hows

> and whys of the procedure.

>

> http://members.aol.com/rgm1/private/preston.htm

>

> She has used it for proving toxic exposures in industry, but has

not

> used it for evaulating drugs, but has wanted to do so. I found

this

> out when I talked to her at my test.

>

> I feel that it is not a ripoff, but make sure that you have the doc

> show you documentation that it does work. Does he have blind

studies

> etc. Just claiming he can does not make it so

>

>

> Who is the doctor that swears that he can target drug use. Do you

> have any information about him, does he have a web site?

>

> Ron

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If you are referring to mapping the areas of the brain that are

either underperfused with blood or over or underactive

metabolically, then I think the imaging techniques, such as SPECT

are more appropriate. Dr. Amen has done considerable work in

this area, and has written several books on it. It makes sense to

me that this technique would be able to pin down under or overactive

regions in the brain. How well the treatments work to correct these

abnormalities is a second question. I think that in some conditions

this works rather well. In others, it may not be so easy to correct

the abnormalities.

In CFS, there appears to be a problem with low blood perfusion in

parts of the brain. I don't think the reason or reasons are agreed

upon yet.

There is another fellow, named Dr. Gant, who corrects

addictions to various things by correcting neurotransmitter

problems, using supplements. I think there is some validity to

this, also. He has written a book entitled " End Your Addiction Now. "

Rich

> <PRE> Rich and all: Anyone here do brainmapping? Is it useful in

targeting the

> right antidepressants or other brain drugs to correct cognition ,

mood or

> memory? Or is it just another higtech expensive ripoff without

enough

> research. Some psychiatrist swears he can target drug usage by

showing

> levels of serotonin and norepeniphrine etc. He uses a queeg, some

optical

> device and mpeg. He doesn't use PET, SPECT OR fMRI. I have my

doubts?

> Anyone have knowldge of this? HOWARD

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  • 3 years later...

Hi my son did some of the neurofeedback for adhd and I am not sure how much it

helped him. He says it did nothing. I was glad to hear from you because we

were looking for a referal close to ventura. I have read about it and it is

supposed to work well especially for people with head injuries. Please stay in

touch. I really want to know about your experience. I would appreciate his

info.

thanks.

luciousgreeneyedlady <luciousgreeneyedlady@...> wrote:

I was wondering if anyone in this group lives in Southern California

because my son who has an uncontrolled seizure disorder is seeing a

very good brain mapping surgeon in Pasadena, Dr. Sutherling, and I

highly recommend him. He has been in the newspapers alot because he is

so successful in stopping seizures by mapping out the brain to see

where the seizures are coming from and taking out those parts of the

brain. My son is going through all of the necessary testing now. I

would love to hear from anyone who may have already gone through this.

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Everyone is raving about the all-new beta.

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hi lucious:

How is the nuerofeedback going for your son's seizures?

are you still impressed with Dr. Sutherling?

I went to the Drake institute in LA this weekend and talked to Dr.

Vellkoff

he seems really knowledgable. He claimed that the neurofeedback did not

completley worked for my son because many people out there are doing it but very

few people really understand how the brain works and how to interprete the maps.

He says that the map that I brought him showed an area in the brain in my son

that shows auditory memory impairment and that it was not addressed by the

previous dr. I am hoping he is right. He has been featured many times on tv

and says all the right thingsl He was very interested in my sons case when we

told him that his neurofeedback treatment did not work after a big expenditure.

I still have not talked to anyone who says that neurofeedback worked for them.

I am anxious to hear from you.

This is not for seizures for me but for ADD for my son. This dr. says that he

was treating an autistic child for ADD with neurofeedback and they discovered

that the autistic symptoms were disappearing. He is really exited. He says he

is working and helping autistic children now. He sounds good. Still the proof

is in the pudin.

thanks,

luciousgreeneyedlady <luciousgreeneyedlady@...> wrote:

I was wondering if anyone in this group lives in Southern California

because my son who has an uncontrolled seizure disorder is seeing a

very good brain mapping surgeon in Pasadena, Dr. Sutherling, and I

highly recommend him. He has been in the newspapers alot because he is

so successful in stopping seizures by mapping out the brain to see

where the seizures are coming from and taking out those parts of the

brain. My son is going through all of the necessary testing now. I

would love to hear from anyone who may have already gone through this.

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NYU, Mt. Sinai or Columbia---all in Manhattan. I'd think you need a

doctor who can have testing done at one of those. I found this too in

searching for that procedure. Sounds like its done after a typical EEG

and is still experimental? Be sure its covered before going thru with

the testing.

1.

Aetna considers the use of quantitative EEG (brain mapping),

also known by the acronym BEAM (Brain Electrical Activity Mapping),

medically necessary only as an adjunct to traditional EEG for any of

the following:

1. For screening for possible epileptic spikes or seizures in

long-term EEG monitoring; or

2. For ambulatory recording of EEG to facilitate subsequent

expert visual EEG interpretation; or

3. For continuous EEG monitoring by frequency-trending to

detect early, acute intracranial complications in the operating room

or intensive care unit (ICU); or

4. For screening for possible epileptic seizures in high-risk

ICU members; or

5. For topographic voltage and dipole analysis in

pre-surgical evaluations for intractable epilepsy; or

6. For evaluation of certain members with symptoms of

cerebrovascular disease whose neuroimaging and routine EEG studies are

not conclusive; or

7.

For evaluation of dementia and encephalopathy when the

diagnosis remains unresolved after initial clinical evaluation.

2.

In accordance with the American Academy of Neurology / American

Clinical Neurophysiology Society's assessment and available evidence,

Aetna considers the use of quantitative EEG experimental and

investigational for all other indications, including any of the

following diagnoses because there is inadequate scientific evidence to

prove its clinical usefulness for these indications:

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Post-concussion syndrome

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Mild or moderate head injury

*

Learning disability

*

Attention disorders

*

Schizophrenia

*

Depression

*

Alcoholism

*

Drug abuse

*

Tinnitus

*

Predicting response to psychotropic medication.

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