Guest guest Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 NO DON'T DO IT! Your child with Asthma has a greater risk of harm from a flu vaccine! " On the other hand, a study of 800 children with asthma found that those receiving a flu vaccine had a significantly increased risk of asthma-related doctor and emergency room visits [13]; the odds ratios were 3.4 and 1.9 respectively. This was confirmed in a report published in 2009, which showed children with asthma who received FluMist had a 3-fold increased risk of hospitalization [14] " References 13 and 14 for you: 13. Christy C, Aligne C, Auinger P, Pulcino T and Weitzman M. Effectiveness of influenza vaccine for the prevention of asthma exacerbations. Arch. Dis Child 2004, 89, 734-5, http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pubmed & pubmedid=1526907\ 1 14. Flu vaccination may triple risk for flu-related hospitalization in children with asthma, 25 May 2009, http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/703235 http://www.ktradionetwork.com/tag/increase-risks-of-asthma/ > > > From: mosense <mosense@...> > Subject: [ ] Re: Vaccination > > Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 1:32 PM > > > > > > > My 8dd has had her flu shot every year--even during the shortage years--the Ped saved it for children like her with underlying conditions. I dont have any underlying conditions-- so I dont get one either. It is recommeded for children with underlying conditions and the elderly..which is why its given in nursing homes every winter. Its not meant to keep you from getting it--just to give the elderly and children a lesser case of it--so there might be a 30% absentee rate of staff instead of a 60%absentee rate of those who work in that environment. > > I also live in NY where the highest concentration of deaths have been from Swine Flu. My dd will get her flu shot. I am a little nervous about giving her a new shot that is just coming out--but I know she cannot fight the way my NT kids would be able to fight off the flu or H1N1. > > two years ago- a seven year old boy died because he had severe asthma and never had a flu shot. He went into the hospital on a Sunday and passed on Tuesday. Seeing my sons whole entire school attend his funeral was gut-wrenching and just shows that kids wiht underlying conditions do not have the immunity to fight off such a scary thing--and I dont want to sit in the hospital this winter wondering if she will recover fully. > > My heart goes out to those who leave their kids to fight on their own. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 First thank you for all your responses so far. Yes I have to agree with you on the fact that the pediatrician is only doing what he is told to do by the higher ups. No I realize that what hew is telling me is not always best for my child. I am one of those people who is a very outspoken and upfront if I do not agree with something regarding my child or his ongoing issues i will let you know about it. I am not happy about this whole flu shot business in regards to having to give it to my son especially this new H1N1 vaccine that is being widely talked about lately. I usually get him the flu shot. For the benefit of my son strictly not due to the pediatrician wanting him to have it. My son has a weak immune system and has asthma . The reason for the flu shot for me is the fact that my son most likely without the flu shot would end up in the hospital with the flu and my son is very susceptible to getting an pneumonia not sure why however he has been on many steriods due to asthma related stuff and chronic croup episodes very bad ones. My son got an pneumonia once he almost died from it two winters ago. He was sos ick even his pediatrician was not sure if he was going to survive it was in his lungs so bad and he just got sicker and weaker from it. He did eventually over come it though. The thought of his getting another one is down right scary. The H1N1 vaccine has me worried a lot. There are so many unknowns with it and so much talk about death with it. The thing that has me so scared is that people children are dying from this. Could someone die from this vaccine if it causes the flu? Can someone die from it if they don't get vaccinated? These are the types of things weighing on mind surrounding this. The problem for me is there si no yes or no answer due to the fact no one knows trhe answer it is all trial and error. No one has the right answer or even one that makes much sense at this point. I myself have no idea what to do at this point. But be rest assured that no one or any doctor is going to force me to make a decision at this point i am not ready to make yet. I need a lot more info than just hearsay from the media and every one else. I need actual facts and truthful ones would help. Unfortuanately at this point in time no one has these answers. Nobody knows anything as a fact right now. This is just way to new for that. Not to mention there is a certain aspect of panic in the media at this point which is not helping to get the right info out there. I guess in the end I like every one else having to make this decision will have to rely on what info is out there and make the decison we each as individuals think is the right one for us and our family and hope it was the right one. We will have to pray and have faith in ourselves that the final decision we make is the right one for us individually. Hang in there everyone. I wish every one luck in this ordeal we are facing soon. Jeanne and NH From: Elena Danaila <edanaila@...> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Vaccination Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 3:23 PM pediatricians do what they are told. they get guidelines and follow them. Please never do something just becuase the pediatrician tells you so.� it is time parents understood that doctors are NOT Gods, they are business people who follow guidelines and can gtet sued if they do not so they don't really question them. There are lots of politics involved in vaccines. Read up all sides CAREFULLY> Particularly because you have a child with an autoimmune disease--asthma plus other neurological issues if you are on this list--and yes there is a connection between the two, the brain is not in a vacuum, it is very much connected to the rest of the body and how things get processed, enzyme productions.� The doctor's assumption is that the vaccine will protect him and not cause harm Particularly for these kids with autoimmune disorders that has been called into question.� Do not ever let yourself be intimidated into doing something just because the doctor says so. Educate yourself and make your own decisions. The doctor will not suffer any consequences if anything happens as long as he followed guidelines. You and your child however will if autoimmune issues are worsened by a live vaccine with all the toxic substances it contains including squalene--definite neurotoxic.. .anyway read up and be sure you are comfortable with what you decide after reading both sides.� Good luck! Elena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Swine Flu Poses Greater Risk To Children With Disabilities, Report Indicates By Diament September 4, 2009 At least 36 children died from swine flu in the United States as of Aug. 8, most of whom had an underlying illness or developmental disability, according to a report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Now, doctors are warning that extra attention must be given to children with special needs who present with flu-like symptoms. Of the 36 children ages 2 months to 17 years who have died, two-thirds had a chronic illness or developmental disability such as cerebral palsy, developmental delay, muscular dystrophy, respiratory troubles or cardiac problems. “For people who do have an underlying condition, it’s important to be seen promptly if you get a fever. That could make the difference between being severely ill and recovering well,†said Frieden, director of the CDC. “Treatment in the first 48 hours can make a big difference in hastening your recovery.†Children with developmental disabilities will be “at the front of the line for flu vaccination when it becomes available,†Frieden says, which could be as early as the middle of October. Nearly 500 people of all ages have died in the United States from the flu strain known as H1N1 or swine flu, the report indicates. It is unclear whether or not the swine flu pandemic will ultimately impact children any more than a typical flu season does, since 50 to 100 children typically die from the flu each year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Wisconsin. they threaten job termination if I do not get the Tdap shot. thanks, Kathie. On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 08:20:20 -0700, Sheri Nakken wrote > You don't have to be a member of a certain religion in most states - the religious exemption is broad and you just sign that it is against your religious beliefs,basically. What state are you concerned about? > Sheri > > > > What religions are against vaccinations? thanks, Kathie. > Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA > Vaccines - http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/ Homeopathy http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com > Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes start October 14 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Wisconsin. they threaten job termination if I do not get the Tdap shot. thanks, Kathie. On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 08:20:20 -0700, Sheri Nakken wrote > You don't have to be a member of a certain religion in most states - the religious exemption is broad and you just sign that it is against your religious beliefs,basically. What state are you concerned about? > Sheri > > > > What religions are against vaccinations? thanks, Kathie. > Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA > Vaccines - http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/ Homeopathy http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com > Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes start October 14 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 oh, not for school but for work This is an absolute travesty and I don't know what to answer anymore on this as more and more are requiring it. what kind of job is it? Sheri At 09:58 AM 10/14/2011, you wrote: Wisconsin. they threaten job termination if I do not get the Tdap shot. thanks, Kathie. On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 08:20:20 -0700, Sheri Nakken wrote > You don't have to be a member of a certain religion in most states - the religious exemption is broad and you just sign that it is against your religious beliefs,basically. What state are you concerned about? > Sheri > > > > What religions are against vaccinations? thanks, Kathie. > Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA > Vaccines - http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/ Homeopathy http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com > Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes start October 14 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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