Re: Nazurah rolled her R!

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yes that is super hard to do! I can not do that as an adult.

From: Zuza <za257@...>

Subject: [ ] Nazurah rolled her R!

Date: Friday, May 28, 2010, 7:54 PM

Hi

Im from Singapore. FYI we have been drinking Nutriiveda for about 3 weeks

consistently and my daughter, 10 years old Nazurah has moderate autism and not

verbal. Last night we went night strolling at a park, Nazurah was walking in

between me and my helper and i was chatting with my elder daughter. I heard

somebody roll the R sound 3 times and i turned around and asked my helper who

was that doing the R sound 3 times? She said Nazurah did it first twice and the

3rd time it was her immitating Nazurah to play with her. I never heard she did

that before! When i asked Nazurah to roll her R again and even immitate her, she

couldnt or wouldnt do it on demand. So didnt hear it anymore. I asked my helper

many time if she is sure that was Nazurah who rolled her R and not somebody

else. She was definite it was Nazurah. I was surprised coz i think rolling the R

is not an easy thing to do, isnt it? Any comments? Im so excited!

I couldnt ask her school speech therapist coz the school holidays just started.

[Guest guest]

Oh Zarifah I am SO HAPPY FOR YOU!!!! What I would do as I wrote to you in

private is not ask her to do it on command -but make games of it -even tell her

not to. I'll just write here what I wrote to you how I used to get Tanner to

repeat things and then provide a few suggestions to get her to repeat the rolled

rs- with also suggestions I found online. Perhaps some of the SLPs can answer

as well!

" The way I'd get Tanner to repeat is reverse psych.. Me: 'OMG!!! Kids your age

are NEVER able to say ______!!! That means you are growing up and I want you to

stay little forever. Don't say ____ again!!!! " I would say as I put my hand

over his mouth (of course I would say this laughing and he would be laughing)

and then of course he would keep trying to say it and I would be saying

" NOOOOooooo!!! " and laughing we'd start running with me chasing after Tanner

saying " don't say it again don't say it again " and I'd count to make sure he

said it at least 3 times to make sure it's in his motor memory. "

So for rolling the rs I'd read the following and get a mirror and lay on the

floor and play around with your tongue and have fun making funny faces and

sounds- but perhaps while " playing " you can make the rolling r sound (with other

sounds too like raspberries and popping sounds blowing air out of your

cheeks...you know the way you can fill your cheeks with air and then slap your

cheeks and make them pop like a balloon ) and when you do the rolling r sound

see if Nazurah does it again. If she does just laugh and imitate her back and

make a game with it -no stress. I was always told to try to get them to repeat

(in a fun way) at least 3 times to help it get into the motor memory -always

worked for me.

Below are some tips -but hey forgot to ask you -did you ever go to Forest

Adventure??? I can't wait to see your pics!!

Oh and one other thing -I found that Vpost that we found to be better priced

shipping to Singapore also ships to a few other countries. So for anyone

ordering nutriiveda internationally through http://www.pursuitofreserach.org

this may be another cheaper option for shipping -Zarifah is the one that shared

this one with me so she can probably explain it better- but we are working with

it YAY and it's awesome!! Wish it existed for all the countries!!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~(tips I found on the net for rolling r's)

Place your tounge on the roof of your mouth just behind your teeth - with as

little pressure as possible (very gently)

Then blow with your tounge in this position - if you blow har denough your the

air will fore it's way betwwen your tounge and your mouth forcing your tounge to

vibrate producing the rolling sound.

Then make an ahhhh sound at the same time.

Put a standard r sound at the begining of this.

Hopefully this will produce the desired result

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Try this: don't think of it as an 'r'. Think of it as a really long 'd' with a

little bit of an 'r' at the end.

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Obviously, modify this once you get the hang of it.

1. Make " duck lips " .

2. Open your jaw slightly.

3. Place the sides of your tongue so that it touches the underside of your top

teeth, but leave the tip of your tongue not touching anything.

4. Take a deep breath and blow out forcefully. Try and get your tongue to make a

flapping noise. Then start adding the traditional " r " noise.

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you might need some of the following techniques to be able to roll a perfect r

in the future.

1. Loosen up the tongue

The reason why a lot of people can't roll their r's is simple because they're

too stressed, or at least their tongue is. Speakers of American English are

actually quite near a rolling r, although most tend to say it's impossible for

them to do. The problem is, however, that they keep their tongue way too far

back. The trick is to put your tongue in the front of your mouth, but we'll get

back on that later. First, you want to loosen up your tongue.

Something I found useful is to use a tongue-twister. Three simple words worked

to loosen up MY tongue: tee dee va. All I did was saying these words fast and

for a long period, in order to loosen up my tongue. First I though it was a

bunch of bullsh*t to do, but it actually worked.

2. Try to make short trilling sounds

So, you tongue is `loose' now? Good. After a lot of practicing with the above

method I was able to produce short `trrr' and `drrr' sounds. The reason why I

could only make the sound with a t or d in front of it, is because you hold your

tongue close to the place it should be with and r when producing a t or d.

After the above technique you should be able to produce short rolling sounds as

well. It doesn't matter if the rolling part only is there for a second, as long

it's there. Just take a deep breath and push the air out trying to make a `trrr'

or `drrr' sound.

3. Make a an individual rolling r

The next and crucial step it so be able to make a individual rolling r. This can

be VERY hard to do, so be sure you practiced a lot with the `trrr'/'drrr'

method. When I was learning to roll my r, the first few weeks my individual r's

sounded like a weird sissing sound in the beginning. The good part, however, is

that after a while you can make looooong rolling sounds without a sissing part

in the beginning. Just practice, practice and practice. It can look hard, maybe

impossible, to roll your r correctly, but you WILL succeed. Trust me, I've been

there, I've been depressed over the fact I couldn't roll my r. But I've

succeeded!

4. Putting your rolling r into words

Putting your newly acquired r into words can be really awkward in the beginning.

The only way to overcome this is practice A LOT. One thing that helped me was

listening to Spanish music and singing along (most people can't sing, including

me, so you might try not to sing too loud), concentrating on the r's. Just try

it, after some days you can confidently roll your r in words, just like any

Spanish native-speaker.

Want some examples and instructions on how to place your tongue?

http://www.uiowa.edu/~acadtech/phonetics/#

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[Guest guest]

Sorry put the wrong website when I was talking about the Vpost orders for

international I put http://www.pursuitofresearch.org which is the main site and

meant to put https://nutraeasy.com/pursuit/order_pursuit_intl.html

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[Guest guest]

Thank you for all your tips ! Very helpful indeed. She smiled when i did all

those funny sounds and faces but i dont know if she knows what im asking out of

her. She did attempt to move her mouth though.

Oh we didnt go to the forest adventure. The day was too hot and humid that we

took a nap and not much time left to make it there after that. Maybe the night

stroll has a soothing effect for her. Will go for more! :-)

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international I put http://www.pursuitofresearch.org which is the main site and

meant to put https://nutraeasy.com/pursuit/order_pursuit_intl.html

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