RE: My son still has trouble with multisyllabic words

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does he know how to read by phonics? That would help him sound out long words to

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> My son is 7 years old and still having trouble with multisyllabic words. He

will be starting 2nd grade in the fall. The words are usually 3 or more

syllables. I don't know what is appropriate for his age, but I've heard other

kids his age pronounce these kind of words clearly. He had a 2-3 multisyllabic

word goal in preschool that they said he met. Whenever he reads he will skip

over a multisyllabic word he can't pronounce. I'll say the word for him and try

to help him pronounce it, but he gets so frustrated he doesn't even want to try

and just says he doesn't need to know it. If I push him to say it he'll get

mad. Is there another way I can help him with these words? I'm a stay-at-mom

right now and have time to help him. We can't afford private therapy and the

school's slp said he no longer needs therapy. His teacher told me his reading

fluency level is advanced for his age.

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Have you tried singing the word or using the sign for it? Some signs have

multiple movements that help children with multisyllable words.

Sharon G. Huttner, SLP

From: prabito@...

Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 18:40:24 +0000

Subject: [ ] My son still has trouble with multisyllabic words

My son is 7 years old and still having trouble with multisyllabic words.

He will be starting 2nd grade in the fall. The words are usually 3 or more

syllables. I don't know what is appropriate for his age, but I've heard other

kids his age pronounce these kind of words clearly. He had a 2-3 multisyllabic

word goal in preschool that they said he met. Whenever he reads he will skip

over a multisyllabic word he can't pronounce. I'll say the word for him and try

to help him pronounce it, but he gets so frustrated he doesn't even want to try

and just says he doesn't need to know it. If I push him to say it he'll get

mad. Is there another way I can help him with these words? I'm a stay-at-mom

right now and have time to help him. We can't afford private therapy and the

school's slp said he no longer needs therapy. His teacher told me his reading

fluency level is advanced for his age.

Patty

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try tapping out the longer words. ie:  um---bre---lla. my son taps either his

leg or his hand.  start tapping slow, then once he's got that go a little

faster for a smoother word.

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Sent: Tue, June 8, 2010 2:40:24 PM

Subject: [ ] My son still has trouble with multisyllabic words

 

My son is 7 years old and still having trouble with multisyllabic words. He will

be starting 2nd grade in the fall. The words are usually 3 or more syllables. I

don't know what is appropriate for his age, but I've heard other kids his age

pronounce these kind of words clearly. He had a 2-3 multisyllabic word goal in

preschool that they said he met. Whenever he reads he will skip over a

multisyllabic word he can't pronounce. I'll say the word for him and try to help

him pronounce it, but he gets so frustrated he doesn't even want to try and just

says he doesn't need to know it. If I push him to say it he'll get mad. Is there

another way I can help him with these words? I'm a stay-at-mom right now and

have time to help him. We can't afford private therapy and the school's slp said

he no longer needs therapy. His teacher told me his reading fluency level is

advanced for his age.

Patty

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Patty it's way to common for them to let children fall through the cracks when

the parents don't have the monies to help advocate. However I have been pretty

good in putting together private professionals that care with parents such as

you to help secure appropriate services for your child. I'm not saying that I

can guarantee ongoing private therapy -but you need someone that is willing to

step forward and evaluate your child for a reduced rate and help you advocate

for appropriate services in your child in school.

Your child is in first grade...and they cut off services to him already and he

has trouble saying any word that has more than 3 syllables in it? These are the

type of situations that I find to be criminal. If you are willing these are

also the type of situations that I find best to bring to the local media. We

had THE most disgusting case of this once in NY -and one of the major NY News

stations was going to document the child and what the school was doing- but the

minute the school found out...which seems to almost always happen (!!) the

school agreed to provide the services and the parent agreed not to go ahead with

the media awareness.

I mean sure I can give you suggestions on how to help your not yet second grader

say multisyllabic words -but I believe that he deserves and is entitled to

professional services to help him -not suggestions that in my opinion should

only be used to supplement therapies he's already receiving. So let's see what

we can do to secure the appropriate therapy through the school. Does he still

have an IEP at all? What is his current placement? How are his grades? How is

his self esteem? Does he have friends? Is he teased?

By the way -here is the speech therapy matrix used by school based SLPs. In

your opinion where would he fall? (of course it would have to be professional

opinion but just curious because parents typically do know way more than we are

given credit for)

http://www.cherabfoundation.org/2007/speech-therapy-matrix

Let us know what state you are in. And email me your phone number if you'd like

me to get more involved in helping you at lisa@...

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yes…tapping works…

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Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 8:13 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] My son still has trouble with multisyllabic

words

try tapping out the longer words. ie: um---bre---lla. my son taps either his

leg or his hand. start tapping slow, then once he's got that go a little faster

for a smoother word.

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Subject: [ ] My son still has trouble with multisyllabic words

My son is 7 years old and still having trouble with multisyllabic words. He will

be starting 2nd grade in the fall. The words are usually 3 or more syllables. I

don't know what is appropriate for his age, but I've heard other kids his age

pronounce these kind of words clearly. He had a 2-3 multisyllabic word goal in

preschool that they said he met. Whenever he reads he will skip over a

multisyllabic word he can't pronounce. I'll say the word for him and try to help

him pronounce it, but he gets so frustrated he doesn't even want to try and just

says he doesn't need to know it. If I push him to say it he'll get mad. Is there

another way I can help him with these words? I'm a stay-at-mom right now and

have time to help him. We can't afford private therapy and the school's slp said

he no longer needs therapy. His teacher told me his reading fluency level is

advanced for his age.

Patty

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It sounds as though your son is frustrated and that is always a red flag

sign for me as both a mom and SLP. I would encourage you to look for a

private therapist that may be willing to work with your financial

situation. You can also call local Universities that have a Masters

Degree programs in Speech/Language Pathology. Some Universities have

on-site clinics with speech therapy services at a discounted rate. In

these clinics, your son would be seen by a graduate student who is

supervised by a certified SLP clinician or professor.

Best Wishes,

Deb

mom of 4, one with apraxia , and certified SLP

https://twitter.com/SpeechGadgetDeb

<https://twitter.com/SpeechGadgetDeb>

http://speechgadget.blogspot.com/ <http://speechgadget.blogspot.com/>

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> My son is 7 years old and still having trouble with multisyllabic

words. He will be starting 2nd grade in the fall. The words are usually

3 or more syllables. I don't know what is appropriate for his age, but

I've heard other kids his age pronounce these kind of words clearly. He

had a 2-3 multisyllabic word goal in preschool that they said he met.

Whenever he reads he will skip over a multisyllabic word he can't

pronounce. I'll say the word for him and try to help him pronounce it,

but he gets so frustrated he doesn't even want to try and just says he

doesn't need to know it. If I push him to say it he'll get mad. Is there

another way I can help him with these words? I'm a stay-at-mom right now

and have time to help him. We can't afford private therapy and the

school's slp said he no longer needs therapy. His teacher told me his

reading fluency level is advanced for his age.

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> Patty

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Way to go Deb -great advice!! I forgot about to mention about the low cost

University speech therapy! Great to use as a supplement for anyone! I have

below an archive on this with a few other suggestions and there is also an

entire page on how to get coverage through your insurance company on our

apraxia.org page here

insurance and speech therapy

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=115029735601 & topic=13830

But first wanted to see if you read The Late Talker as you could use the chapter

on advocacy and think if you go to Google books you can read lots of it online

now. (but if you are going to buy it get the paperback -it's cheaper and more

up to date than the hardcover)

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Thu Jun 6, 2002 3:43 pm

" kiddietalk " kiddietalk@...

Re: College and ish Rite schools

Hi Marsha!

I'm not sure about a list of ish Rite schools -however, here are

some links for Universities that have programs in Speech Language

Pathology and Audiology. Contact the Universities located in your

area and ask if they offer speech therapy services to the public. I

believe all therapy is done by graduating students and is overseen by

a PhD. They typically will provide therapy at nominal charge (maybe

$15 or less for a half hour) Of course when word gets out - at times

there is a waiting list for services - so it's worth checking out now!

US -great resource and easy to navigate:

http://facstaff.uww.edu/bradleys/cdprograms.html

Canada

http://www.caslpa.ca/english/connections/conn1.html

UK/Ireland

http://www.rcslt.org/courses.html

Europe

http://www1.ldc.lu.se/logopedi/europe/

In addition -sometimes there are organizations like the ELKS that

will sponsor children for subsidized therapy -ask around for that too

through child services, Easter Seals, or office of disability (etc.)

in your

area.

If anyone has any other comprehensive lists they would like to share -

please do! Also a good list of oral based schools for the hearing

impaired which may be worth looking into for your apraxic child is

here: http://www.oraldeafed.org/schools/index.html

If you visit Speechville and put in your state for resources you can

find a list of Universities and so much more!

http://www.speechville.com/regional-resources.html

I'm not sure if you are in the US or not -but here in the US, once children

turn three, if they are qualified for special education, they are

eligible for FAPE -a free and appropriate education through the

school -which typically early intervention professionals assist with

that transfer (a few links below). I'm not sure if it's too late to

get your child ESY (extended school year) services right now, but

other qualified preschool and school age children are receiving that

right now in your town. Either way -starting in the Fall, your

child if qualified should enter your town's preschool disabled

program -or whatever they call it where you live, where, if

appropriate, you can advocate to have specific amounts of individual speech, PT

or OT

therapy sessions written into Grace's IEP. The squeak always

gets the grease though -so it appears you may have to push to

continue the therapy that's appropriate for your child. The school

is not required to provide the best therapy -just what is

appropriate. When it comes to school law -it's complicated

below are a few links

http://www.listen-up.org/rights2/osep7.htm

http://www.stnonline.com/stn/specialneeds/sn_federalaws.htm

http://12.46.245.173/cfda/cfda.html

When you seek out of district placement -the cool thing is that you

don't have to only search other school districts, you can also

search private schools. I have found over the years in this group

that many of us had the best experience and success with our children

with more severe speech impairments in schools for the hearing

impaired. Personally I prefer the oral based schools based on our

experience and those in this group with the Summit Speech School in

New Providence, NJ. Here's a list of some others

http://www.oraldeafed.org/schools/

http://www.oraldeafed.org/schools/index-list.html

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Create a game to put multi-syllable words together. Start w/simple words. You

could do something where you draw cards and create words and get to move ahead

on a game board if you create a word.

For example, you could have cards with: no, one, a, gain, ful, some,

thing, to, gether,

Start at his level-- you can put prefixes in one pile and root words in another

and suffixes in another--. Or you can start w/more simple compound words such

as dishpan. pancake panhandle and make cards and see how many words you can

create to move forward on a board or win a token etc.

You can even do word cards and play a Simon says game where he gets to do

something fun everytime he reads a word. For eg--read a word, go down the

slide---read a word---swing---read a word ---climb the tree.

Colleen

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My son is also still having trouble with multisyllabic words. He will be in

first grade this year. His speech IEP has that as a goal for next school year to

work on. One of his hardest words he is currently trying to say, though, is

" girls " , and it isn't multisyllabic. It sounds like " gwerels " . When I talked to

the speech pathologist about it, she said that in general, she thinks that he is

thinking of saying the word faster than he is thinking about how to say the

word, and we need to get him to slow down his thinking and his speech. She said

that she believed that is the reason he is also having trouble with the

multisyllabic words. I think there is more to it than that, but we'll try it her

way for awhile.

My daughter had also been diagnosed with speech apraxia, they believe that these

diagnoses are related to another genetic condition that we have called Ehlers

Danlos Syndrome. We started signing with her, and that was easier for her. When

she got around children that were her own age that wasn't a sibling, she started

to improve trying to talk, whereas before she didn't want to do that. She still

has problems with projecting her voice, and she trips over some words often. She

is going to be in 6th grade, and the school district refuses to help her further

with speech.

Angie

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syllables. I don't know what is appropriate for his age, but I've heard other

kids his age pronounce these kind of words clearly. He had a 2-3 multisyllabic

word goal in preschool that they said he met. Whenever he reads he will skip

over a multisyllabic word he can't pronounce. I'll say the word for him and try

to help him pronounce it, but he gets so frustrated he doesn't even want to try

and just says he doesn't need to know it. If I push him to say it he'll get

mad. Is there another way I can help him with these words? I'm a stay-at-mom

right now and have time to help him. We can't afford private therapy and the

school's slp said he no longer needs therapy. His teacher told me his reading

fluency level is advanced for his age.

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words are usually 3 or more syllables. I don't know what is appropriate

for his age, but I've heard other kids his age pronounce these kind of

words clearly. He had a 2-3 multisyllabic word goal in preschool that

they said he met. Whenever he reads he will skip over a multisyllabic

word he can't pronounce. I'll say the word for him and try to help him

pronounce it, but he gets so frustrated he doesn't even want to try and

just says he doesn't need to know it. If I push him to say it he'll get

mad. Is there another way I can help him with these words? I'm a

stay-at-mom right now and have time to help him. We can't afford private

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oh my gosh!  that's exactly how my son says " girls " as well!!!  He also likes

to try and rush things as well.  One thing that we've found really helpful is

telling him " turtle talk " .  that's the only cue he now needs when trying to

rush.  We started with a visual example on paper of a turtle walking on a path,

around the lake and the trees ect.  As we moved the turtle, we would talk

extremely slow, then we'd bring in the proverbial hare and then talk really,

really fast.  He got the idea very quickly.  Even his teachers are using the

" turtle " cue for talking and reading.

hth

sandy

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From: kraizeemommy <kraizeemom@...>

Sent: Thu, June 10, 2010 9:49:17 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: My son still has trouble with multisyllabic

words

 

My son is also still having trouble with multisyllabic words. He will be in

first grade this year. His speech IEP has that as a goal for next school year to

work on. One of his hardest words he is currently trying to say, though, is

" girls " , and it isn't multisyllabic. It sounds like " gwerels " . When I talked to

the speech pathologist about it, she said that in general, she thinks that he is

thinking of saying the word faster than he is thinking about how to say the

word, and we need to get him to slow down his thinking and his speech. She said

that she believed that is the reason he is also having trouble with the

multisyllabic words. I think there is more to it than that, but we'll try it her

way for awhile.

My daughter had also been diagnosed with speech apraxia, they believe that these

diagnoses are related to another genetic condition that we have called Ehlers

Danlos Syndrome. We started signing with her, and that was easier for her. When

she got around children that were her own age that wasn't a sibling, she started

to improve trying to talk, whereas before she didn't want to do that. She still

has problems with projecting her voice, and she trips over some words often. She

is going to be in 6th grade, and the school district refuses to help her further

with speech.

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will be starting 2nd grade in the fall. The words are usually 3 or more

syllables. I don't know what is appropriate for his age, but I've heard other

kids his age pronounce these kind of words clearly. He had a 2-3 multisyllabic

word goal in preschool that they said he met. Whenever he reads he will skip

over a multisyllabic word he can't pronounce. I'll say the word for him and try

to help him pronounce it, but he gets so frustrated he doesn't even want to try

and just says he doesn't need to know it. If I push him to say it he'll get mad.

Is there another way I can help him with these words? I'm a stay-at-mom right

now and have time to help him. We can't afford private therapy and the school's

slp said he no longer needs therapy. His teacher told me his reading fluency

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