Guest guest Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Do you have any local colleges that have speech programs? We have a wonderful one here in Springfield, MO, and they do a sliding scale. Just a thought... hang in there! [ ] Feeling totally lost and defeated. Need speech help for my son! I am hoping someone can help me with advice. My son has only been in PPCD (Preschool Program for Children with Disabilities) since his third birthday (one month ago) and the school district said he doesn't qualify for the summer program because they haven't been able to see him long enough to see if he regresses. They said he may next summer if they see regression. I am frustrated because our insurance will not cover speech services and we cannot afford to pay out of our pocket. Are there any grants or national programs to help parents pay for speech therapy out of their pockets? I have googled and searched and read forum after forum but feel totally overwhelmed and completely lost. He has not officially been diagnosed as apraxic but I emailed our neurologist with the new info I have learned here. He has Chromosome 22q11.2 Duplication Syndrome which means nothing to the insurance company and no one knows what to do with that diagnosis at the school etc. since it's a relatively newly identified syndrome. He qualified for PPCD at the school for speech delay. A developmental specialist told us a few weeks ago that he is on the autism spectrum, but the school said we will have an ARD in August and set up an eval by their specialist for an official diagnosis. The thing is, we are not sure if he is on the spectrum. We are pretty sure (and his OT is too) that he has Sensory Processing Disorder. He flaps when excited, when he sees fans, etc and lines up his trains and plays with them all of the time, but he is social with adults, smiles, etc. The neurologist and geneticist originally said they don't think he's autistic, that it's caused by his syndrome, but we have been told he may get more services if he is on the spectrum. Very confusing. He is very smart and tries to speak but no one can understand him (except a few words like did it, done done done, car, dada, mama, nonono, etc). He struggles to get sounds out but will repeat the same long paragraph twice. It sounds like total gibberish to most but I can tell he is saying something because he repeats the same thing. When I tried to get him to say car he got it out but took forever to get the c out and sounded very guttural. He has never blown out a candle or blown bubbles or blown at all and has never licked his lips. He will push stuff off of his lips into his mouth. He gets some speech at PPCD right now but won't during the summer. He was in ECI from about 19 months of age until he graduated out at the age of three and was sent to PPCD the day after his third birthday. They focused very much on his very delayed walking. He started walking a few months ago on his own after orthotics, OT, PT and a walker helped him gain strength. He still has balance issues though and falls a good bit. I am in Texas. I know this is rambling, but I feel very lost as he has symptoms that are all over and it's hard to classify him so that he can get services covered by insurance. I have fought the insurance over and over and the geneticist and neurologist have called as well as the speech path that did his intake at the place he gets private OT and PT. Would a diagnosis of apraxia help? The reason the insurance says they are denying is because of the reasons I read in The Late Talker. He didn't lose his speech through tramatic brain injury or an accident. Do I have any options to get him help with us being financially strapped? We make over the amount required to get things like Medicaid, etc. I have heard of waiver programs, but was told there are very very long waiting lists. He is so young and I don't want to miss this early window of learning opportunity or lose the progress he has had at school so far. It seems almost like only the well off or those with a means to get money somewhere get the best treatment for their children. He has a 60 visit cap on any type of therapy as well and we are at about 32 visits (OT and PT) so far. Thanks for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 I had my son evaluated through TX state here in town. I called to cancel b/c we too are strapped for money and they waived the fee. I am now seeing if they will give him a grant or scholarship for their summer speech program. I also met a lady in San who had her son in speech with the Easter Seals, but they aren't here in town. Maybe you could check them out? > > Do you have any local colleges that have speech programs? We have a > wonderful one here in Springfield, MO, and they do a sliding scale. > Just a thought... hang in there! > > > > [ ] Feeling totally lost and > defeated. Need speech help for my son! > > > > > I am hoping someone can help me with advice. My son has only > been in PPCD (Preschool Program for Children with Disabilities) since > his third birthday (one month ago) and the school district said he > doesn't qualify for the summer program because they haven't been able to > see him long enough to see if he regresses. They said he may next summer > if they see regression. > > I am frustrated because our insurance will not cover speech > services and we cannot afford to pay out of our pocket. Are there any > grants or national programs to help parents pay for speech therapy out > of their pockets? I have googled and searched and read forum after forum > but feel totally overwhelmed and completely lost. He has not officially > been diagnosed as apraxic but I emailed our neurologist with the new > info I have learned here. He has Chromosome 22q11.2 Duplication Syndrome > which means nothing to the insurance company and no one knows what to do > with that diagnosis at the school etc. since it's a relatively newly > identified syndrome. He qualified for PPCD at the school for speech > delay. A developmental specialist told us a few weeks ago that he is on > the autism spectrum, but the school said we will have an ARD in August > and set up an eval by their specialist for an official diagnosis. The > thing is, we are not sure if he is on the spectrum. We are pretty sure > (and his OT is too) that he has Sensory Processing Disorder. He flaps > when excited, when he sees fans, etc and lines up his trains and plays > with them all of the time, but he is social with adults, smiles, etc. > The neurologist and geneticist originally said they don't think he's > autistic, that it's caused by his syndrome, but we have been told he may > get more services if he is on the spectrum. Very confusing. > > He is very smart and tries to speak but no one can understand > him (except a few words like did it, done done done, car, dada, mama, > nonono, etc). He struggles to get sounds out but will repeat the same > long paragraph twice. It sounds like total gibberish to most but I can > tell he is saying something because he repeats the same thing. When I > tried to get him to say car he got it out but took forever to get the c > out and sounded very guttural. He has never blown out a candle or blown > bubbles or blown at all and has never licked his lips. He will push > stuff off of his lips into his mouth. He gets some speech at PPCD right > now but won't during the summer. He was in ECI from about 19 months of > age until he graduated out at the age of three and was sent to PPCD the > day after his third birthday. They focused very much on his very delayed > walking. He started walking a few months ago on his own after orthotics, > OT, PT and a walker helped him gain strength. He still has balance > issues though and falls a good bit. I am in Texas. I know this is > rambling, but I feel very lost as he has symptoms that are all over and > it's hard to classify him so that he can get services covered by > insurance. I have fought the insurance over and over and the geneticist > and neurologist have called as well as the speech path that did his > intake at the place he gets private OT and PT. Would a diagnosis of > apraxia help? The reason the insurance says they are denying is because > of the reasons I read in The Late Talker. He didn't lose his speech > through tramatic brain injury or an accident. > > Do I have any options to get him help with us being financially > strapped? We make over the amount required to get things like Medicaid, > etc. I have heard of waiver programs, but was told there are very very > long waiting lists. He is so young and I don't want to miss this early > window of learning opportunity or lose the progress he has had at school > so far. It seems almost like only the well off or those with a means to > get money somewhere get the best treatment for their children. He has a > 60 visit cap on any type of therapy as well and we are at about 32 > visits (OT and PT) so far. > > Thanks for your help. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 look up the colleges that offer speech pathology or communication disorders as a degree and call that department and see if they do evaluations. My son was seen by a professor and two graduate students and the rest of the class was behind a mirrored window observing. They wrote up a 5 page report on their findings and recommendations. I had heard about the clinic through a friend whose son was evaluated for sensory issues there. then I googled TX State speech and the clinic web page came up. http://www.class.uh.edu/comd/uslhc/ http://facstaff.uww.edu/bradleys/cdprograms.html#tx according to this list it looks like University of Houston is the only uni to offer a speech clinic in Houston. > > > > Do you have any local colleges that have speech programs? We have a > > wonderful one here in Springfield, MO, and they do a sliding scale. > > Just a thought... hang in there! > > > > > > > > [ ] Feeling totally lost and > > defeated. Need speech help for my son! > > > > > > > > > > I am hoping someone can help me with advice. My son has only > > been in PPCD (Preschool Program for Children with Disabilities) since > > his third birthday (one month ago) and the school district said he > > doesn't qualify for the summer program because they haven't been able to > > see him long enough to see if he regresses. They said he may next summer > > if they see regression. > > > > I am frustrated because our insurance will not cover speech > > services and we cannot afford to pay out of our pocket. Are there any > > grants or national programs to help parents pay for speech therapy out > > of their pockets? I have googled and searched and read forum after forum > > but feel totally overwhelmed and completely lost. He has not officially > > been diagnosed as apraxic but I emailed our neurologist with the new > > info I have learned here. He has Chromosome 22q11.2 Duplication Syndrome > > which means nothing to the insurance company and no one knows what to do > > with that diagnosis at the school etc. since it's a relatively newly > > identified syndrome. He qualified for PPCD at the school for speech > > delay. A developmental specialist told us a few weeks ago that he is on > > the autism spectrum, but the school said we will have an ARD in August > > and set up an eval by their specialist for an official diagnosis. The > > thing is, we are not sure if he is on the spectrum. We are pretty sure > > (and his OT is too) that he has Sensory Processing Disorder. He flaps > > when excited, when he sees fans, etc and lines up his trains and plays > > with them all of the time, but he is social with adults, smiles, etc. > > The neurologist and geneticist originally said they don't think he's > > autistic, that it's caused by his syndrome, but we have been told he may > > get more services if he is on the spectrum. Very confusing. > > > > He is very smart and tries to speak but no one can understand > > him (except a few words like did it, done done done, car, dada, mama, > > nonono, etc). He struggles to get sounds out but will repeat the same > > long paragraph twice. It sounds like total gibberish to most but I can > > tell he is saying something because he repeats the same thing. When I > > tried to get him to say car he got it out but took forever to get the c > > out and sounded very guttural. He has never blown out a candle or blown > > bubbles or blown at all and has never licked his lips. He will push > > stuff off of his lips into his mouth. He gets some speech at PPCD right > > now but won't during the summer. He was in ECI from about 19 months of > > age until he graduated out at the age of three and was sent to PPCD the > > day after his third birthday. They focused very much on his very delayed > > walking. He started walking a few months ago on his own after orthotics, > > OT, PT and a walker helped him gain strength. He still has balance > > issues though and falls a good bit. I am in Texas. I know this is > > rambling, but I feel very lost as he has symptoms that are all over and > > it's hard to classify him so that he can get services covered by > > insurance. I have fought the insurance over and over and the geneticist > > and neurologist have called as well as the speech path that did his > > intake at the place he gets private OT and PT. Would a diagnosis of > > apraxia help? The reason the insurance says they are denying is because > > of the reasons I read in The Late Talker. He didn't lose his speech > > through tramatic brain injury or an accident. > > > > Do I have any options to get him help with us being financially > > strapped? We make over the amount required to get things like Medicaid, > > etc. I have heard of waiver programs, but was told there are very very > > long waiting lists. He is so young and I don't want to miss this early > > window of learning opportunity or lose the progress he has had at school > > so far. It seems almost like only the well off or those with a means to > > get money somewhere get the best treatment for their children. He has a > > 60 visit cap on any type of therapy as well and we are at about 32 > > visits (OT and PT) so far. > > > > Thanks for your help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Hi ! In addition to the information I sent to you in private (which I'll put below) I have an archive on how to get services from your area below -but don't forget I have an entire page on how to get coverage through your insurance company on our apraxia.org page here insurance and speech therapy http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=115029735601 & topic=13830 Actually just checked that page and saw your comment! So know you found that one -here's some other info to hopefully help! Re: Just found out that Speech Therapy is not covered Dear Sara, Do you know for 'sure' that speech therapy is not covered by state funded health care? What about oral motor therapy? Say your child has trouble eating or drinking- is therapy for that covered? Play the game -find out what type of speech therapy is covered by the state and I'm sure if your child is apraxic you can get coded for that. Apraxia is rarly 'just' a motor planning issue as many also have tonal issues, weakness, sensory issues that overlap. Also don't take no for an answer so quick. Most do -but insurance companies count on the fact that only 10% will fight a " no " They may say " no " again -and again only 10% will fight that second no. By the third fight however you are not probably working with someone who has a clue -and since you are at this point 10% of 10% (of 10%) you'll probably get a yes. Besides I just quickly did a search at Google and I found that speech therapy is covered by most state funded health care. Here's a few quotes from one of the sites: http://www2.doh.wa.gov/HWS/doc/MCH/MCH_CSN2004.doc " Children in special education programs are eligible for educational services from ages 3 to 21, including nursing care, physical therapy, speech therapy, occupational therapy, and special education. According to the National Survey of CSHCN, about 32% of Washington's children with special needs in this age group were enrolled in special education programs, including more than half of children with special needs identified as having functional limitations. Data from a 1997 survey of school nurses in Washington showed that all school districts in the state serve at least one child with a chronic illness.13 Nationally, children with special health care needs experience three times as many school absences as other children.7 These absences affect the child's educational progress and may also interrupt school-based therapies and services that promote the child's overall well being. " " Low income. Accessing health care is more difficult for families with low incomes. Among other issues, these families face problems with transportation, difficulty maintaining continuity of providers, and the unwillingness of providers to include in their practice clients who are uninsured or enrolled in Medicaid.15 In the 2002 Washington State Medicaid Client Satisfaction Survey, families with children with special needs were statistically more likely to report problems getting care, medications, occupational, physical or speech therapy, and referral to a specialist than families without children with special needs.16 " 16 " Washington State Medical Assistance Administration, Consumer Assessment of Health Plans, 2002 " Fight for your child's rights - because we know if you don't your child's SLP won't either. (Time for a new one even if you could afford her!) Anyone else here from Washington State to help? Here's some of the support sources I found at Speechville: Support Contacts*: Houston Area Support Group for Developmental Apraxia of Speech Contact: Mimi Branham MA, CCC-SLP E-Mail: teala@... Phone: (713) 807-1131 Support Contacts*: Contact: Robyn Southlake, Texas E-mail: mysticcreek@... Contact: Marilyn May Northwestern Texas E-Mail: marilynsgm@... Contact: (Liz) Morabito Marshall, Texas E-Mail: MBALiz@... Phone: (903) 934-9046 Contact: Dallas, Texas E-Mail: lapw@... Contact: Cheri E. , M.S. CCC-SLP Oklahoma and Texas E-Mail: C@... Things to do at home -yes answers for that too! The below link is a parent geared article I wrote for Contemporary Pediatrics; the trade magazine for pediatric medical professionals nationwide. The article is mainly pulled from The Late Talker book which I co authored with neurodevelopmental pediatrician Dr. Marilyn Agin, and International Journalist Malcolm Nicholl on things you can do to help stimulate speech in your late talker child at home: http://contemporarypediatrics.modernmedicine.com/contpeds/data/articlestandard//\ contpeds/492004/136315/article.pdf Actually in many ways The Late Talker may be a help to you. Not in that article above -but Rhonda who was one of the founders of the nonprofit ECHO of Canada has said that the Kaufman Kit made her at that time her daughter's best SLP when there were no SLPs around that were aware of how to best help an apraxic child in her area of Canada...and she's not the first to say that. You can look for a used one -or at times people here have donated their old Kaufman Kits to moms like you in need (so head's up to someone who's child is doing well and you want to donate that kit to pay it forward!) Below are some archives on ways to secure inexpensive or free therapy services: Thu Jun 6, 2002 3:43 pm " kiddietalk " kiddietalk@... Re: College and ish Rite schools Hi Marsha! I'm not sure about a list of ish Rite schools -however, here are some links for Universities that have programs in Speech Language Pathology and Audiology. Contact the Universities located in your area and ask if they offer speech therapy services to the public. I believe all therapy is done by graduating students and is overseen by a PhD. They typically will provide therapy at nominal charge (maybe $15 or less for a half hour) Of course when word gets out - at times there is a waiting list for services - so it's worth checking out now! US -great resource and easy to navigate: http://facstaff.uww.edu/bradleys/cdprograms.html Canada http://www.caslpa.ca/english/connections/conn1.html UK/Ireland http://www.rcslt.org/courses.html Europe http://www1.ldc.lu.se/logopedi/europe/ In addition -sometimes there are organizations like the ELKS that will sponsor children for subsidized therapy -ask around for that too through child services, Easter Seals, or office of disability (etc.) in your area. If anyone has any other comprehensive lists they would like to share - please do! Also a good list of oral based schools for the hearing impaired which may be worth looking into for your apraxic child is here: http://www.oraldeafed.org/schools/index.html If you visit Speechville and put in your state for resources you can find a list of Universities and so much more! http://www.speechville.com/regional-resources.html I'm not sure if you are in the US or not -but here in the US, once children turn three, if they are qualified for special education, they are eligible for FAPE -a free and appropriate education through the school -which typically early intervention professionals assist with that transfer (a few links below). I'm not sure if it's too late to get your child ESY (extended school year) services right now, but other qualified preschool and school age children are receiving that right now in your town. Either way -starting in the Fall, your child if qualified should enter your town's preschool disabled program -or whatever they call it where you live, where, if appropriate, you can advocate to have specific amounts of individual speech, PT or OT therapy sessions written into Grace's IEP. The squeak always gets the grease though -so it appears you may have to push to continue the therapy that's appropriate for your child. The school is not required to provide the best therapy -just what is appropriate. When it comes to school law -it's complicated below are a few links http://www.listen-up.org/rights2/osep7.htm http://www.stnonline.com/stn/specialneeds/sn_federalaws.htm http://12.46.245.173/cfda/cfda.html When you seek out of district placement -the cool thing is that you don't have to only search other school districts, you can also search private schools. I have found over the years in this group that many of us had the best experience and success with our children with more severe speech impairments in schools for the hearing impaired. Personally I prefer the oral based schools based on our experience and those in this group with the Summit Speech School in New Providence, NJ. Here's a list of some others http://www.oraldeafed.org/schools/ http://www.oraldeafed.org/schools/index-list.html ===== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 , I feel your pain! We have battled with our school system for over a year and have still never received extended Summer services. We have however, receieved a lot of help through our county. The Department of Developmental Delays (former MRDD) provides my son (who is 4 and has moderate apraxia) 5 hours of speech services a month at the place of our choice. All we had to do was turn over our speech evaluations and fill out all the forms. They are great to work with because they really want to help kids who need it. As for income, my husband and I make decent livings, and we still qualify for the DD services, so it may be worth giving it a shot  Good luck. Gretchen (Columbus, OH) ________________________________ From: <shannonstilwell@...> Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 9:50:53 AM Subject: [ ] Feeling totally lost and defeated. Need speech help for my son! I am hoping someone can help me with advice. My son has only been in PPCD (Preschool Program for Children with Disabilities) since his third birthday (one month ago) and the school district said he doesn't qualify for the summer program because they haven't been able to see him long enough to see if he regresses. They said he may next summer if they see regression. I am frustrated because our insurance will not cover speech services and we cannot afford to pay out of our pocket. Are there any grants or national programs to help parents pay for speech therapy out of their pockets? I have googled and searched and read forum after forum but feel totally overwhelmed and completely lost. He has not officially been diagnosed as apraxic but I emailed our neurologist with the new info I have learned here. He has Chromosome 22q11.2 Duplication Syndrome which means nothing to the insurance company and no one knows what to do with that diagnosis at the school etc. since it's a relatively newly identified syndrome. He qualified for PPCD at the school for speech delay. A developmental specialist told us a few weeks ago that he is on the autism spectrum, but the school said we will have an ARD in August and set up an eval by their specialist for an official diagnosis. The thing is, we are not sure if he is on the spectrum. We are pretty sure (and his OT is too) that he has Sensory Processing Disorder. He flaps when excited, when he sees fans, etc and lines up his trains and plays with them all of the time, but he is social with adults, smiles, etc. The neurologist and geneticist originally said they don't think he's autistic, that it's caused by his syndrome, but we have been told he may get more services if he is on the spectrum. Very confusing. He is very smart and tries to speak but no one can understand him (except a few words like did it, done done done, car, dada, mama, nonono, etc). He struggles to get sounds out but will repeat the same long paragraph twice. It sounds like total gibberish to most but I can tell he is saying something because he repeats the same thing. When I tried to get him to say car he got it out but took forever to get the c out and sounded very guttural. He has never blown out a candle or blown bubbles or blown at all and has never licked his lips. He will push stuff off of his lips into his mouth. He gets some speech at PPCD right now but won't during the summer. He was in ECI from about 19 months of age until he graduated out at the age of three and was sent to PPCD the day after his third birthday. They focused very much on his very delayed walking. He started walking a few months ago on his own after orthotics, OT, PT and a walker helped him gain strength. He still has balance issues though and falls a good bit. I am in Texas. I know this is rambling, but I feel very lost as he has symptoms that are all over and it's hard to classify him so that he can get services covered by insurance. I have fought the insurance over and over and the geneticist and neurologist have called as well as the speech path that did his intake at the place he gets private OT and PT. Would a diagnosis of apraxia help? The reason the insurance says they are denying is because of the reasons I read in The Late Talker. He didn't lose his speech through tramatic brain injury or an accident. Do I have any options to get him help with us being financially strapped? We make over the amount required to get things like Medicaid, etc. I have heard of waiver programs, but was told there are very very long waiting lists. He is so young and I don't want to miss this early window of learning opportunity or lose the progress he has had at school so far. It seems almost like only the well off or those with a means to get money somewhere get the best treatment for their children. He has a 60 visit cap on any type of therapy as well and we are at about 32 visits (OT and PT) so far. Thanks for your help. ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 Thanks Gretchen, I looked into it and there is no MRDD in Texas or Houston as far as I can see. I sure wish so! The closest college is an hour away it looks like and the closest Easter Seals is in Austin, which is about 2 hours away. If anyone is in Houston or the area and knows of resources, please let me know. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Gretchen Walsh Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 6:15 AM Subject: Re: [ ] Feeling totally lost and defeated. Need speech help for my son! , I feel your pain! We have battled with our school system for over a year and have still never received extended Summer services. We have however, receieved a lot of help through our county. The Department of Developmental Delays (former MRDD) provides my son (who is 4 and has moderate apraxia) 5 hours of speech services a month at the place of our choice. All we had to do was turn over our speech evaluations and fill out all the forms. They are great to work with because they really want to help kids who need it. As for income, my husband and I make decent livings, and we still qualify for the DD services, so it may be worth giving it a shot Good luck. Gretchen (Columbus, OH) ________________________________ From: <shannonstilwell@... <mailto:shannonstilwell%40gmail.com> > <mailto: %40> Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 9:50:53 AM Subject: [ ] Feeling totally lost and defeated. Need speech help for my son! I am hoping someone can help me with advice. My son has only been in PPCD (Preschool Program for Children with Disabilities) since his third birthday (one month ago) and the school district said he doesn't qualify for the summer program because they haven't been able to see him long enough to see if he regresses. They said he may next summer if they see regression. I am frustrated because our insurance will not cover speech services and we cannot afford to pay out of our pocket. Are there any grants or national programs to help parents pay for speech therapy out of their pockets? I have googled and searched and read forum after forum but feel totally overwhelmed and completely lost. He has not officially been diagnosed as apraxic but I emailed our neurologist with the new info I have learned here. He has Chromosome 22q11.2 Duplication Syndrome which means nothing to the insurance company and no one knows what to do with that diagnosis at the school etc. since it's a relatively newly identified syndrome. He qualified for PPCD at the school for speech delay. A developmental specialist told us a few weeks ago that he is on the autism spectrum, but the school said we will have an ARD in August and set up an eval by their specialist for an official diagnosis. The thing is, we are not sure if he is on the spectrum. We are pretty sure (and his OT is too) that he has Sensory Processing Disorder. He flaps when excited, when he sees fans, etc and lines up his trains and plays with them all of the time, but he is social with adults, smiles, etc. The neurologist and geneticist originally said they don't think he's autistic, that it's caused by his syndrome, but we have been told he may get more services if he is on the spectrum. Very confusing. He is very smart and tries to speak but no one can understand him (except a few words like did it, done done done, car, dada, mama, nonono, etc). He struggles to get sounds out but will repeat the same long paragraph twice. It sounds like total gibberish to most but I can tell he is saying something because he repeats the same thing. When I tried to get him to say car he got it out but took forever to get the c out and sounded very guttural. He has never blown out a candle or blown bubbles or blown at all and has never licked his lips. He will push stuff off of his lips into his mouth. He gets some speech at PPCD right now but won't during the summer. He was in ECI from about 19 months of age until he graduated out at the age of three and was sent to PPCD the day after his third birthday. They focused very much on his very delayed walking. He started walking a few months ago on his own after orthotics, OT, PT and a walker helped him gain strength. He still has balance issues though and falls a good bit. I am in Texas. I know this is rambling, but I feel very lost as he has symptoms that are all over and it's hard to classify him so that he can get services covered by insurance. I have fought the insurance over and over and the geneticist and neurologist have called as well as the speech path that did his intake at the place he gets private OT and PT. Would a diagnosis of apraxia help? The reason the insurance says they are denying is because of the reasons I read in The Late Talker. He didn't lose his speech through tramatic brain injury or an accident. Do I have any options to get him help with us being financially strapped? We make over the amount required to get things like Medicaid, etc. I have heard of waiver programs, but was told there are very very long waiting lists. He is so young and I don't want to miss this early window of learning opportunity or lose the progress he has had at school so far. It seems almost like only the well off or those with a means to get money somewhere get the best treatment for their children. He has a 60 visit cap on any type of therapy as well and we are at about 32 visits (OT and PT) so far. Thanks for your help. ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 , Try " The Arc of Texas " : www.thearcoftexas.org They are advocates for children with disabilities and should be familiar with resources in your state. They also should have great classes available for you to attend and learn the ins and outs of the system. They can also help you set up a trust fund so that if anything happens to you (and/or your spouse) the child will be taken care of. Once the trust fund is set up, other people can make tax deductible contributions to the trust fund. Trust funds must be worded correctly to get most benefits for the child. Disabled children in the state of Texas qualify to be on suplimental SSI. That may also open some doors for you, There are income limits for this. There may also be programs available through your states department of Human Resources. If you want to try to do some things on your own this summer, you can order some teaching activities from Super Duper Publications. Blessings, Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 Let me double check, but I think I know someone else whose child has the exact same condition as yours..and is in the process of navigating the school system right now. She is in Ohio...so things will be somewhat different...but she would be an excellent resource, as she has done tons of research on the Chromosome 22q11.2 Duplication Syndrome. Let me go look at a few of her posts on another place we are on together..and if I am correct I will send you an e-mail with where you can potentially get in touch with her through..and I will see if she can post some information on the same place for you... > > I am hoping someone can help me with advice. My son has only been in PPCD (Preschool Program for Children with Disabilities) since his third birthday (one month ago) and the school district said he doesn't qualify for the summer program because they haven't been able to see him long enough to see if he regresses. They said he may next summer if they see regression. > > I am frustrated because our insurance will not cover speech services and we cannot afford to pay out of our pocket. Are there any grants or national programs to help parents pay for speech therapy out of their pockets? I have googled and searched and read forum after forum but feel totally overwhelmed and completely lost. He has not officially been diagnosed as apraxic but I emailed our neurologist with the new info I have learned here. He has Chromosome 22q11.2 Duplication Syndrome which means nothing to the insurance company and no one knows what to do with that diagnosis at the school etc. since it's a relatively newly identified syndrome. He qualified for PPCD at the school for speech delay. A developmental specialist told us a few weeks ago that he is on the autism spectrum, but the school said we will have an ARD in August and set up an eval by their specialist for an official diagnosis. The thing is, we are not sure if he is on the spectrum. We are pretty sure (and his OT is too) that he has Sensory Processing Disorder. He flaps when excited, when he sees fans, etc and lines up his trains and plays with them all of the time, but he is social with adults, smiles, etc. The neurologist and geneticist originally said they don't think he's autistic, that it's caused by his syndrome, but we have been told he may get more services if he is on the spectrum. Very confusing. > > He is very smart and tries to speak but no one can understand him (except a few words like did it, done done done, car, dada, mama, nonono, etc). He struggles to get sounds out but will repeat the same long paragraph twice. It sounds like total gibberish to most but I can tell he is saying something because he repeats the same thing. When I tried to get him to say car he got it out but took forever to get the c out and sounded very guttural. He has never blown out a candle or blown bubbles or blown at all and has never licked his lips. He will push stuff off of his lips into his mouth. He gets some speech at PPCD right now but won't during the summer. He was in ECI from about 19 months of age until he graduated out at the age of three and was sent to PPCD the day after his third birthday. They focused very much on his very delayed walking. He started walking a few months ago on his own after orthotics, OT, PT and a walker helped him gain strength. He still has balance issues though and falls a good bit. I am in Texas. I know this is rambling, but I feel very lost as he has symptoms that are all over and it's hard to classify him so that he can get services covered by insurance. I have fought the insurance over and over and the geneticist and neurologist have called as well as the speech path that did his intake at the place he gets private OT and PT. Would a diagnosis of apraxia help? The reason the insurance says they are denying is because of the reasons I read in The Late Talker. He didn't lose his speech through tramatic brain injury or an accident. > > Do I have any options to get him help with us being financially strapped? We make over the amount required to get things like Medicaid, etc. I have heard of waiver programs, but was told there are very very long waiting lists. He is so young and I don't want to miss this early window of learning opportunity or lose the progress he has had at school so far. It seems almost like only the well off or those with a means to get money somewhere get the best treatment for their children. He has a 60 visit cap on any type of therapy as well and we are at about 32 visits (OT and PT) so far. > > Thanks for your help. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 You might try Easter Seals, United Way, Shriners. I do not think there are any waiver programs in Texas. Can you get any therapy from the AEA? ________________________________ From: D. Meyer <mmeyer@...> Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 11:13:42 AM Subject: RE: [ ] Feeling totally lost and defeated. Need speech help for my son! Do you have any local colleges that have speech programs? We have a wonderful one here in Springfield, MO, and they do a sliding scale. Just a thought... hang in there! [ ] Feeling totally lost and defeated. Need speech help for my son! I am hoping someone can help me with advice. My son has only been in PPCD (Preschool Program for Children with Disabilities) since his third birthday (one month ago) and the school district said he doesn't qualify for the summer program because they haven't been able to see him long enough to see if he regresses. They said he may next summer if they see regression. I am frustrated because our insurance will not cover speech services and we cannot afford to pay out of our pocket. Are there any grants or national programs to help parents pay for speech therapy out of their pockets? I have googled and searched and read forum after forum but feel totally overwhelmed and completely lost. He has not officially been diagnosed as apraxic but I emailed our neurologist with the new info I have learned here. He has Chromosome 22q11.2 Duplication Syndrome which means nothing to the insurance company and no one knows what to do with that diagnosis at the school etc. since it's a relatively newly identified syndrome. He qualified for PPCD at the school for speech delay. A developmental specialist told us a few weeks ago that he is on the autism spectrum, but the school said we will have an ARD in August and set up an eval by their specialist for an official diagnosis. The thing is, we are not sure if he is on the spectrum. We are pretty sure (and his OT is too) that he has Sensory Processing Disorder. He flaps when excited, when he sees fans, etc and lines up his trains and plays with them all of the time, but he is social with adults, smiles, etc. The neurologist and geneticist originally said they don't think he's autistic, that it's caused by his syndrome, but we have been told he may get more services if he is on the spectrum. Very confusing. He is very smart and tries to speak but no one can understand him (except a few words like did it, done done done, car, dada, mama, nonono, etc). He struggles to get sounds out but will repeat the same long paragraph twice. It sounds like total gibberish to most but I can tell he is saying something because he repeats the same thing. When I tried to get him to say car he got it out but took forever to get the c out and sounded very guttural. He has never blown out a candle or blown bubbles or blown at all and has never licked his lips. He will push stuff off of his lips into his mouth. He gets some speech at PPCD right now but won't during the summer. He was in ECI from about 19 months of age until he graduated out at the age of three and was sent to PPCD the day after his third birthday. They focused very much on his very delayed walking. He started walking a few months ago on his own after orthotics, OT, PT and a walker helped him gain strength. He still has balance issues though and falls a good bit. I am in Texas. I know this is rambling, but I feel very lost as he has symptoms that are all over and it's hard to classify him so that he can get services covered by insurance. I have fought the insurance over and over and the geneticist and neurologist have called as well as the speech path that did his intake at the place he gets private OT and PT. Would a diagnosis of apraxia help? The reason the insurance says they are denying is because of the reasons I read in The Late Talker. He didn't lose his speech through tramatic brain injury or an accident. Do I have any options to get him help with us being financially strapped? We make over the amount required to get things like Medicaid, etc. I have heard of waiver programs, but was told there are very very long waiting lists. He is so young and I don't want to miss this early window of learning opportunity or lose the progress he has had at school so far. It seems almost like only the well off or those with a means to get money somewhere get the best treatment for their children. He has a 60 visit cap on any type of therapy as well and we are at about 32 visits (OT and PT) so far. Thanks for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 Schools are cutting back and summer services are one of the first things to go. Transportation is also on the list of things schools are trying to get rid of offering, special ed, teacher associates. The list goes on and on. I am so sorry this is happening. Can your speech therapist give you some homework for your son so you can work on speech on your own time and cut back on some of the speech therapy as your child progresses? Is it possible to record some of the sessions? Are you observing the speech therapy and occupational therapy sessions so you can emulate some of these activities? ________________________________ From: D. Meyer <mmeyer@...> Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 11:13:42 AM Subject: RE: [ ] Feeling totally lost and defeated. Need speech help for my son! Do you have any local colleges that have speech programs? We have a wonderful one here in Springfield, MO, and they do a sliding scale. Just a thought... hang in there! [ ] Feeling totally lost and defeated. Need speech help for my son! I am hoping someone can help me with advice. My son has only been in PPCD (Preschool Program for Children with Disabilities) since his third birthday (one month ago) and the school district said he doesn't qualify for the summer program because they haven't been able to see him long enough to see if he regresses. They said he may next summer if they see regression. I am frustrated because our insurance will not cover speech services and we cannot afford to pay out of our pocket. Are there any grants or national programs to help parents pay for speech therapy out of their pockets? I have googled and searched and read forum after forum but feel totally overwhelmed and completely lost. He has not officially been diagnosed as apraxic but I emailed our neurologist with the new info I have learned here. He has Chromosome 22q11.2 Duplication Syndrome which means nothing to the insurance company and no one knows what to do with that diagnosis at the school etc. since it's a relatively newly identified syndrome. He qualified for PPCD at the school for speech delay. A developmental specialist told us a few weeks ago that he is on the autism spectrum, but the school said we will have an ARD in August and set up an eval by their specialist for an official diagnosis. The thing is, we are not sure if he is on the spectrum. We are pretty sure (and his OT is too) that he has Sensory Processing Disorder. He flaps when excited, when he sees fans, etc and lines up his trains and plays with them all of the time, but he is social with adults, smiles, etc. The neurologist and geneticist originally said they don't think he's autistic, that it's caused by his syndrome, but we have been told he may get more services if he is on the spectrum. Very confusing. He is very smart and tries to speak but no one can understand him (except a few words like did it, done done done, car, dada, mama, nonono, etc). He struggles to get sounds out but will repeat the same long paragraph twice. It sounds like total gibberish to most but I can tell he is saying something because he repeats the same thing. When I tried to get him to say car he got it out but took forever to get the c out and sounded very guttural. He has never blown out a candle or blown bubbles or blown at all and has never licked his lips. He will push stuff off of his lips into his mouth. He gets some speech at PPCD right now but won't during the summer. He was in ECI from about 19 months of age until he graduated out at the age of three and was sent to PPCD the day after his third birthday. They focused very much on his very delayed walking. He started walking a few months ago on his own after orthotics, OT, PT and a walker helped him gain strength. He still has balance issues though and falls a good bit. I am in Texas. I know this is rambling, but I feel very lost as he has symptoms that are all over and it's hard to classify him so that he can get services covered by insurance. I have fought the insurance over and over and the geneticist and neurologist have called as well as the speech path that did his intake at the place he gets private OT and PT. Would a diagnosis of apraxia help? The reason the insurance says they are denying is because of the reasons I read in The Late Talker. He didn't lose his speech through tramatic brain injury or an accident. Do I have any options to get him help with us being financially strapped? We make over the amount required to get things like Medicaid, etc. I have heard of waiver programs, but was told there are very very long waiting lists. He is so young and I don't want to miss this early window of learning opportunity or lose the progress he has had at school so far. It seems almost like only the well off or those with a means to get money somewhere get the best treatment for their children. He has a 60 visit cap on any type of therapy as well and we are at about 32 visits (OT and PT) so far. Thanks for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 , Our daughter sounds a lot like your son. She is social, but has severe speech issues and other sensory " quirks. " The developmental pediatrician explained it to me this way: Autism is a behavioral diagnosis, not a medical one. By this she means that, if your son has enough sensory and behavioral differences (regardless of his medical diagnosis- chromosomal or otherwise) to qualify as being on the spectrum, he is on the spectrum, based on observed behaviors, and can qualify for the diagnosis and any services that he is eligible based on this diagnosis. Based on observed behaviors, our daughter was diagnosed with PDD (on the spectrum), but everyone knows that there is more going on medically with her than this- we are still trying to figure out her medical diagnosis. But I will tell you this- Having the PDD diagnosis has made a word of difference, as far as what services the school district will pay for. Without a fight, they increased her speech to 5 times per week, she still gets PT and OT twice a week and she now qualifies for summer services AND a SEIT teacher 3 times a week at home as well, to help with communication (PECS) and the behaviors she has been struggling with, due to her communication troubles. Anyway, while there is more to her medical story than PDD, having the autistic diagnosis is the best thing that has ever happened for her. Hope that helps! Kate Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 Joan we all help our children but your advice would only work if a child has a developmental delay in speech. Your advice actually would be not only inappropriate but detrimental to a child who has an impairment of speech. You took your child to 3 different places, one who taught your child to say the word " no " which was in your words " KIND OF A WASTE!! " and I guess out of those 3 stuck with one of them for 2 and a half years with little to no progress? Why did it take you 2 and a half years to realize that you not only were wasting money but causing the rest of us to pay more for our health insurance (if it was private) or pay more in taxes (if it was through the state) ...and I'm just asking this based on your own advice which is what? Worry more about the rates of insurance and taxes vs. what is appropriate for my child? Why did it take you two and a half years though Joan to realize that you made a mistake? And will it take another two a a half years for you to comprehend why your advice to those with speech impaired children is not only inappropriate...but just plain mean and potentially detrimental? Children that have impairments of speech in most cases desperately want to communicate but need help on learning how. Parents that have children like this feel naturally enough guilt as to did they do anything to cause this and how can they help their child? Your advice is typical of the ignorance that is blatant in our society. Your advice both hurts the children and the parents of these children. Yes we all help our children -but we do so based on what is appropriate. You want to encourage and push a bit -you don't want to break which WILL happen if your advice is used on a speech impaired child. You and your child are fortunate that there was probably only a developmental delay in speech. But please don't think that your advice is relevant or in any way wise for this group which mainly deals with children that have IMPAIRMENTS of speech. I just want to end by thanking God for giving your a child who appears to only have a developmental delay in speech. ===== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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