Re: At last found what's going on

[Guest guest]

very good of you to keep going forward even when things were not improving- you

never gave up and went with your feeling that toxin damage played a role.

I hope your child heals completely soon.

I have been in the biomedical scene for some time now, and have never heard of

..thank you for sharing.

We also try different ways of healing and detoxing...you have to keep trying

till something clicks..and yes, many times (imo) it is toxin damage..metals and

such..even if the child is not vaccinated..can come from the mother and

environment.

[Guest guest]

HI There,

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so are you saying the porphrine test wasnt right? Cause I was thinking about

doing one.

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thank you,

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Kimmy

I have written a few times in this group, asking help on what I should do for my

son.

My 5 year old son was diagnosed with speech apraxia and autism when he was 3

years old. We got a complete ONE test( which says what's low vit/min/protein low

in him and what's high)and we did porphrine test which said no trace of heavy

metals. i was said that chelation/removing metal will be the last thing to try.

We tried every thing from NN oils to HBOT hard chamber, My son remained

non-verbal and very poor in reseptive language. I also did some homotoxicology

from a doc who was right there at my DANdoc'c office. 6 months ago, After

reading datas on a BIOSET machine which gave me clear picture that his

methylation is messed up. I was said by a DAN naturopath in guilford( yes, I was

travelling across the sate) that mithylation can be mess ed up only if mercury

ever entered, also he said the mercury might have left. I started Reading lot

more websites and joined one another group. I insisted my DAN doc to do a

provocation UTM Now after 6 months of

homeopath drop helping him detox. By DAN doc was very confident that porphire

test is one of the best to find if there is a trace of metals, and which said no

trace of heavy metals left in my son. In spite of that I insisted to do a

provocation UTM for mercury and lead. Guess what!! atlast the metals showed up!!

very highly elivated merury and lead reading. Did 2 months of chelation every 10

days. Metals wheren't coming out as expected. My friend refred me this doc at NY

manhattan Coyle, homotoxicologist. The best I have ever ever seen. She has

developed a protocol, working on it for 14 years that detoxs vaccine injuries. 3

months with her now, my son's reseptive is much much better. There are few other

doctors whom she trained on homotoxicology and the sequence she found that works

best on vaccine affected kids. There are some who learned from her but deviated

from the core and not realy doing that , beware of them but herself treats

only

only kids with special needs. Here is what I found " most of the apraxic kids

90% has hidden lead issue " . Doing homotoxicology ( removing toxin from human

body) with coyle is very very different from anyone else who says they know

autism. also consults through phone and we can order remidies from the

manifaturer or she orders shiping remedis/supplements direct form the

manufacturer to our home. I live in connecticut thus I am visiting her direct

once in 6 weeks but, she has people calling form all over US. She is the

best!!!! Even if you don't see any metal toxicity a general detox with her

clears most of the issues. My son is still not talking, he has lots of things

messed up .. food sensitivity. .. yeast..parasites. youname it.I met 4 other

parents whos children are doing far far better and talking after starting with

Coyle. I strongly strongly recommend that you call her(212-255- 4490) and

ask if she can help your child. If you can

group your self as geographical area, you can request her to come to your area

to give a lecture on what she is doing.

with good intension,

Supraja

[Guest guest]

Hi - what is her method of detoxification? Does she use pharma? supplements?

homeopath?

This is probably our next step - I'm not sure which way to go. Considering Andy

Cutlers program right now.

thanks

>

> I have written a few times in this group, asking help on what I should do for

my son.

> My 5 year old son was diagnosed with speech apraxia and autism when he was 3

years old. We got a complete ONE test( which says what's low vit/min/protein low

in him and what's high)and we did porphrine test which said no trace of heavy

metals. i was said that chelation/removing metal will be the last thing to try.

We tried every thing from NN oils to HBOT hard chamber, My son remained

non-verbal and very poor in reseptive language. I also did some homotoxicology

from a doc who was right there at my DANdoc'c office. 6 months ago, After

reading datas on a BIOSET machine which gave me clear picture that his

methylation is messed up. I was said by a DAN naturopath in guilford( yes, I was

travelling across the sate) that mithylation can be mess ed up only if mercury

ever entered, also he said the mercury might have left. I started Reading lot

more websites and joined one another group. I insisted my DAN doc to do a

provocation UTM Now after 6 months of homeopath drop helping him detox. By DAN

doc was very confident that porphire test is one of the best to find if there is

a trace of metals, and which said no trace of heavy metals left in my son. In

spite of that I insisted to do a provocation UTM for mercury and lead. Guess

what!! atlast the metals showed up!! very highly elivated merury and lead

reading. Did 2 months of chelation every 10 days. Metals wheren't coming out as

expected. My friend refred me this doc at NY manhattan Coyle,

homotoxicologist. The best I have ever ever seen. She has developed a protocol,

working on it for 14 years that detoxs vaccine injuries. 3 months with her now,

my son's reseptive is much much better. There are few other doctors whom she

trained on homotoxicology and the sequence she found that works best on vaccine

affected kids. There are some who learned from her but deviated from the core

and not realy doing that , beware of them but herself treats only only kids

with special needs. Here is what I found " most of the apraxic kids 90% has

hidden lead issue " . Doing homotoxicology ( removing toxin from human body) with

coyle is very very different from anyone else who says they know autism.

also consults through phone and we can order remidies from the manifaturer

or she orders shiping remedis/supplements direct form the manufacturer to our

home. I live in connecticut thus I am visiting her direct once in 6 weeks but,

she has people calling form all over US. She is the best!!!! Even if you don't

see any metal toxicity a general detox with her clears most of the issues. My

son is still not talking, he has lots of things messed up .. food sensitivity...

yeast..parasites. youname it.I met 4 other parents whos children are doing far

far better and talking after starting with Coyle. I strongly strongly

recommend that you call her(212-255-4490) and ask if she can help your child. If

you can group your self as geographical area, you can request her to come to

your area to give a lecture on what she is doing.

> with good intension,

> Supraja

>

[Guest guest]

I am glad more and more parents are discovering the fact that many of

metabolic--fatty acid malabsorptions and such--are from metal toxicity--and no,

it doesn't have to be from vaccines necessarily--though that's a prime source

but so are maternal dental amalgam fillings--especially when inappropriately

removed, but even before.  Mercury is very, Very toxic in all forms and amounts,

chronic toxicity is from low grade constant exposure such as amalgam, repeated

doses of vaccines, even foods and cosmetics have small amounts of toxic metals

and are not regulated or tested--corn syrup has trace amounts of mercury--trace

you may say but considering it shouldn't ahve any--it's just made cheaper by

using cheaper products that do have mercury--and FDA does not test for certain

toxins unless asked to--by whom??--Anyway google corn syrup and mercury and you

will see the results. There is no question that there are many more sources of

mercury and lead and

aluminum and other toxic metals in the environment, home and food etc than it

is acceptable and tolerable by our bodies and it builds over time, mother toxic

body burden is shared with fetus during vital early development days when s/he

is most vulnerable--and then the cycle continues.

But all kids are different and detoxification pathways are not always blocked so

not all get the mercury toxicity problems--at lest not right away.

Our daughter was not vaccinated THANKFULLY!--but I had 6-7 amalgam fillings and

2 inappropriately removed right before pregnancy--BIG exposure there, my

symptoms of toxicity--which I did not

know about at the time to be caused by mercury--cleared up during pregnancy and

breastfeeding and returned later when I stopped breastfeeding a--only to stop

again once the mercury fillings were finally properly removed. But both she and

I have mercury toxicity now and are about to start safely and slowly chelating

via Cutler Protocol. My DAN does not necessarily feel it is the only way to do

it, but is supportive--and I have chosen this slow, safe method precisely

because I do know from other parents--Gosh so many of them thankfully who have

recovered their children or seen amazing progress at least --that not all DANs

really understand chelation and if done too fast or for less than 3 days with

administration of chelating agents every 3-4 h it can be unsafe.

Not all DANs even know this or practice safe chelation. The trial should never

be done just one time, it is not enough for the mercury to come out and it does

so a little but gets redistributed fast--you don't want that.  Three days

minimum are needed to complete a safe chelating cycle and it does not and should

not be large amounts of chelation agent--only 10 to 15 mg can be enough per dose

to start out with--where as DAN's often do 500mg at once and administer only

once a week or something very unsafe like this. The frequent constant

administration gets the mercury/lead out safely.

We had the same pattern of no mercury showing up in the pretest and the post

test 12 h urine test, but by the third day it started to come out, still withing

normal range but it was there, it was getting safely pulled out and  repeated

trials showed the same thing. that's why one time tests don't work and are even

dangerous--the elimination cycle has to be full 3 days minimum to pull it out of

the body properly.  it should never be pulled out fast by large amounts of

chelating agent or only one administration.  I showed the same pattern and we

know mercury is present and needs to come out from organs tissues and also the

brain where it causes the most damage even in small amounts just as lead and

other metals can-- but mercury the most severe of all.

Also my daughter has malabsorption sof all kinds, severe aparaxia prior to

supplementation, but the supplements are only patching things up, the fish oil

Co Q10, MB12 shots are just helping fix broken links temporarily, reducing the

oxidative stress but not eliminating it.  The toxins are causing the oxidative

stress and are the underlying problems  so we now need to address these. We know

we ar eon the right track becuase we now ahve astable diet/supplement protocol

that has allowed my daughter to progress to the point where in less than a year

ande a half she went from almost non-verbal--no rel words other than a few basic

ones, after almost 1 year and a half of intesive therapy--to over 3000 words

now, sentences, normal behavior, focus, eye contact etc.--and she was never even

considered on the autistic spectrum --but shared many of the features---severe

speech problems, she could vocalize but not make sounds at will or sequence them

to form

words---she had meltdowns every 10 minutes and was frustrated and cried and

screamed--her frustration was heartbreaking and she was eager to be with peers

and to learn signs--but her low muscle tone, mild sensory issues, on and off toe

walking, all of these spelled a complex neurological condition--which is often

found in apraxic kids and that's why it is a continuum, al lot of ASD kids have

apraxia--as many as 50% some say, but it is underdiagnosed due to their autism

which becomes the main diagnosis and it is known to come with speech problems

among other things. So it really is a matter of degree of brain damage and

underlying causes are very similar--metabolic/immune disorders that cause

endocrine problems and neurological dysfunctions of various forms and degrees.

Anyway, please all read up before you do even what your DAN says. Our kids are

too importnat to leave it up to the doctors alone--be they alopaths or anything

else. Biomeds DANs are great sometimes but they all

have their strengths and weaknesses--always do your own research and learn form

other parents and lists--we have the benefit or learning from all the experts by

doing this and the list risk of negative consequences.

Also this is not all just for ASD. It is a neurological disorders specturm--ASD

just have more siuistems affected, mor ebrain function is damaged, but

mecahnisms ar eoften the same:

Toxicity ----> metabolic dysfunction that triggers vicious cycle of

malabsorptions at gut and cellular levels due to enzyme production difficulties

and missing nutrients. The cycle just gets worse and worse, the immune system

gets overwhealmed as many foods become toxic and cause infmallation too since

they are not properly broken down and enter the blood stream in larger particles

etc.  Gluten/casein are the  main culprits, but not only--any food can become

toxic and cause inflamation--and this is not the same as an allergic

reaction--our skin tests showwed nothing--but her beghaqvior back on

gluten/casein was terrible--both therapists were begging me to put her back on

the diet so they ccan work with her and she can continue to progress. All this

though nees to be done the right way, without hidden sources contaminating the

diet and identifying all the irritants, as some can continue to cause problems

when the main intolernaces are taken care of. You

want to heal the gut and allow the body/brain to heal. 

As the toxins deregulate the metabolic system and immune system they also open

the gates--literally--to oportunistic infections--viruses bacteria anbd

parasites. My daughter had all of these, we're still fighting the second

microscopic parasite --we both got it, both are mercury toxic--  poor enzyme

production and blocked detoxification pathways, both are highly sensitive to

these oportunistic infections--viruses, bacteria, parasites.  You cannot

possibly prevent these unless you heal the body and strengthen the immune system

so the body can be strong and ward off these invaders on it's own--otherwise it

is a lost battle as chronic degenerative illness gradually sets in affecting

different organs, systems. 

We're all vulnerable depending on toxicity exposure and of course genetic

predispositions--that's why the symptoms can differ--some get asthma others

Lupus, others skin disorders, Psoriasis, eczema and other things that doctors

just like to blame genetics for--but remember , in order for genes to be

activated-- you need environmental factors that triggers them. 

Unless all these are properly addressed you are set for a lot of hardships

ppooor health and for the young whose brains are so sensitive and respond both

to inflamation and to the toxins caused by these various factors, their

development can be impeded--speech, learning language processing at all

levels--visual, auditory, etc--muscle tone and energy, attention and ehavior,

emotions--read depression. 

We are walking chemical laboratories where electrochemical reactions take place

at an unimaginable rate and missing chemicals can cause severe problems and

erode overall health gradually or rapidly, again depending on the individual

genes and exposures to toxins. They are cumulative and some are worse than

others--metals are the absolute worse and mercury probably leads the way, so the

total toxic body burden is very importnat as the toxins also interact and cause

the variations we see among our neurologically damaged kids,

Some get speech problems, others ADD, others are learning disabled (1 in 6 kids

today in the US) and others have poor tone and sensory issues and cry a lot, get

depressed and are put on meds in their teens, others develop full blown autism

and/or seizures ----all of these are caused by toxic exposures of various

kinds0--but heavy metals for sure and it is all cumulative.

So do your research, observe your child, see what metabolic problems might be

present--any autoimmune issues --also family history as there is the genetic

component--but no genetic disorder is ever present unless triggered by

environmental factors--it's always an interaction--and the treatment --the best

most effective treatment is holistic--to help all the affected systems heal and

regain function. 

Good luck to all!--Oh, and Yes, since on BIOMED

I have written a few times in this group, asking help on what I should do for my

son.

My 5 year old son was diagnosed with speech apraxia and autism when he was 3

years old. We got a complete ONE test( which says what's low vit/min/protein low

in him and what's high)and we did porphrine test which said no trace of heavy

metals. i was said that chelation/removing metal will be the last thing to try.

We tried every thing from NN oils to HBOT hard chamber, My son remained

non-verbal and very poor in reseptive language. I also did some homotoxicology

from a doc who was right there at my DANdoc'c office. 6 months ago, After

reading datas on a BIOSET machine which gave me clear picture that his

methylation is messed up. I was said by a DAN naturopath in guilford( yes, I was

travelling across the sate) that mithylation can be mess ed up only if mercury

ever

entered, also he said the mercury might have left. I started Reading lot more

websites and joined one another group. I insisted my DAN doc to do a

provocation UTM Now after 6 months of

homeopath drop helping him detox. By DAN doc was very confident that porphire

test is one of the best to find if there is a trace of metals, and which said no

trace of heavy metals left in my son. In spite of that I insisted to do a

provocation UTM for mercury and lead. Guess what!! atlast the metals showed up!!

very highly elivated merury and lead reading. Did 2 months of chelation every 10

days. Metals wheren't coming out as expected. My friend refred me this doc at NY

manhattan Coyle, homotoxicologist. The best I have ever ever seen. She has

developed a protocol, working on it for 14 years that detoxs vaccine injuries. 3

months with her now, my son's reseptive is much much better. There are few other

doctors whom she trained on homotoxicology and the

sequence she found that works best on vaccine affected kids. There are some who

learned from her but deviated from the core and not realy doing that , beware of

them but herself treats only

only kids with special needs. Here is what I found " most of the apraxic kids

90% has hidden lead issue " . Doing homotoxicology ( removing toxin from human

body) with coyle is very very different from anyone else who says they know

autism. also consults through phone and we can order remidies from the

manifaturer or she orders shiping remedis/supplements direct form the

manufacturer to our home. I live in connecticut thus I am visiting her direct

once in 6 weeks but, she has people calling form all over US. She is the

best!!!! Even if you don't see any metal toxicity a general detox with her

clears most of the issues. My son is still not talking, he has lots of things

messed up .. food sensitivity. .. yeast..parasites. youname it.I met 4 other

parents whos children are doing far far better and talking after starting with

Coyle. I strongly strongly recommend that you call her(212-255- 4490) and

ask if she can help your child. If you can

group your self as geographical area, you can request her to come to your area

to give a lecture on what she is doing.

with good intension,

Supraja