Guest guest Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 Separating syllables is not uncommon in kids w/apraxia. Is your son getting speech therapy? Is his SLP using PROMPT with him? You or she can work with him to connect his syllables by using 2 blocks a few inches apart on a table, saying a word--dir-ty while touching 1st then next block then move the blocks together and say the word as one unit. The u can transition this to sliding your or his finger along the table or his arm to blend the word. Warmest wishes, Barbara , M.S., CCC-SLP www.helpmespeak.com 410-442-9791 Ask me about NutriiVeda! On May 8, 2010, at 2:18 AM, " cassrob224@... " <cassrob224@...> wrote: > My son was diagnosed with apraxia a little over 2 yrs ago. He just turned 5. He has a good number of one syllable words, but only a handful of 2 syllable words. Mommy, and daddy are blended, but that's about it. Dirty is dir-ty etc... > Has anyone else seen this? Is this common for apraxia? If you have experenced it, what did you do to correct it? Are there any fun play ways to correct it? > Thank you!! > Crystal > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 Hi - Please forgive a completely unprofessional answer. 1) Start giving your son Nutriiveda, 2 scoops daily. As alternatives you could consider whey protein isolate or even BioZzz. 2) Also give him fish oils (Nordic Naturals ProEFA and ProEPA, ratio 2:1). 3) Read Autism: Effective Biomedical Treatments, and add to the above supplements any that a DAN! doctor thinks aren't well enough provided by the above. 4) Have your son tested for deficiencies: e.g., full panel amino acid, serum serotonin, vitamin D, zinc tally tests; a DAN! doctor can also suggest Great Plains, Metametrix, and Neuroscience " home " tests. I wouldn't get a genetics test until there are several symptoms suggesting one. Testing may provide information but treatments are more important. 5) Read Gut and Psychology Syndrome by -McBride. Your son's brain isn't building connections well. The lack of building could be quite local to Broca's area (from your description) or it could be more widespread. You can tell if it's more widespread if he doesn't seem to " get " concepts, categorize, make sequences, and other attributes of a nicely developing imagination -- when a child's brain doesn't build connections well, his images don't grow quickly. If the building is more local, as with many apraxics, his brain may not form sound memories or join them together well. The five steps above approach apraxia as a starvation problem. Apraxia is much more one of disrupted nutrition than at first strikes the eye; and anyway, the approach is excellent generically: it will help almost anyone, and could very well do so better than any other. For an educational approach, ABA, TEACCH, and Early Start Denver Model programs have good track records. Ms and many people work with PROMPT. In certain cases, specific computer workouts help kids past blocks; some children's brains seem fine, and their minds have simply missed a section of normal learning. But I feel relying only on education, without thoroughly checking for possible metabolic and neurochemical needs, risks a lot. And why am I so heavy-handed? Been there, done that, is why. I trusted doctors and therapists and now have to live with their educated ignorance. All my best wishes to you and your son. Tim Stearns On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 11:18 PM, cassrob224@... < cassrob224@...> wrote: > > > My son was diagnosed with apraxia a little over 2 yrs ago. He just turned > 5. He has a good number of one syllable words, but only a handful of 2 > syllable words. Mommy, and daddy are blended, but that's about it. Dirty is > dir-ty etc... > Has anyone else seen this? Is this common for apraxia? If you have > experenced it, what did you do to correct it? Are there any fun play ways to > correct it? > Thank you!! > Crystal > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2010 Report Share Posted May 10, 2010 Please tell me what is the zinc tally test.... Roxanne From: Tim Stearns Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 12:02 AM Subject: Re: [ ] My son seperates his syllables... Hi - Please forgive a completely unprofessional answer. 1) Start giving your son Nutriiveda, 2 scoops daily. As alternatives you could consider whey protein isolate or even BioZzz. 2) Also give him fish oils (Nordic Naturals ProEFA and ProEPA, ratio 2:1). 3) Read Autism: Effective Biomedical Treatments, and add to the above supplements any that a DAN! doctor thinks aren't well enough provided by the above. 4) Have your son tested for deficiencies: e.g., full panel amino acid, serum serotonin, vitamin D, zinc tally tests; a DAN! doctor can also suggest Great Plains, Metametrix, and Neuroscience " home " tests. I wouldn't get a genetics test until there are several symptoms suggesting one. Testing may provide information but treatments are more important. 5) Read Gut and Psychology Syndrome by -McBride. Your son's brain isn't building connections well. The lack of building could be quite local to Broca's area (from your description) or it could be more widespread. You can tell if it's more widespread if he doesn't seem to " get " concepts, categorize, make sequences, and other attributes of a nicely developing imagination -- when a child's brain doesn't build connections well, his images don't grow quickly. If the building is more local, as with many apraxics, his brain may not form sound memories or join them together well. The five steps above approach apraxia as a starvation problem. Apraxia is much more one of disrupted nutrition than at first strikes the eye; and anyway, the approach is excellent generically: it will help almost anyone, and could very well do so better than any other. For an educational approach, ABA, TEACCH, and Early Start Denver Model programs have good track records. Ms and many people work with PROMPT. In certain cases, specific computer workouts help kids past blocks; some children's brains seem fine, and their minds have simply missed a section of normal learning. But I feel relying only on education, without thoroughly checking for possible metabolic and neurochemical needs, risks a lot. And why am I so heavy-handed? Been there, done that, is why. I trusted doctors and therapists and now have to live with their educated ignorance. All my best wishes to you and your son. Tim Stearns On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 11:18 PM, cassrob224@... < cassrob224@...> wrote: > > > My son was diagnosed with apraxia a little over 2 yrs ago. He just turned > 5. He has a good number of one syllable words, but only a handful of 2 > syllable words. Mommy, and daddy are blended, but that's about it. Dirty is > dir-ty etc... > Has anyone else seen this? Is this common for apraxia? If you have > experenced it, what did you do to correct it? Are there any fun play ways to > correct it? > Thank you!! > Crystal > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2010 Report Share Posted May 10, 2010 It's a taste test. You taste liquid from a bottle; if you don't taste anything, your zinc is low. My daughter, 4, just swallowed it, which was a simple sign of zinc insuffiency -- if her zinc was okay she'd have made a face. I got mine by mail from Blue Mountain Apothecary, Columbia MD 21046. Cost $6.50. They've got a website you can email through. Cheers! - Tim S On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 5:49 AM, Roxie <rxflwrs@...> wrote: > > > Please tell me what is the zinc tally test.... > Roxanne > > From: Tim Stearns > Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 12:02 AM > < %40> > Subject: Re: [ ] My son seperates his syllables... > > > Hi - Please forgive a completely unprofessional answer. > > 1) Start giving your son Nutriiveda, 2 scoops daily. As Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2010 Report Share Posted May 10, 2010 How much zinc are you giving her???? you are the first person that I have talked to that actually is doing what I want to do...the blood tests are not accurate so I saw the taste test info but the apothacary is requiring a prescription to mix it accurately. My daughter had terrible pica at age 4 and when I gave her the flintstone vitamins it stopped. by accident I gave her the flintstone with calcium and did not realize it did not contain any zinc and the pica behavior started again. I checked the containers and restarted her on the flintstone complete and the behavior stopped. Since then she has had immune issues (she is on vivagobbin) and sores inside her mouth usually near her gums so allergists suggested putting her up to 50 extra mg and we were on that level for a few months but a genetist said put her up to 100mg and we have been there about 2 years. But the info I have read says she may be one of the few that requires zinc supplementation the rest of her life. I have notice cognitive growth on this level to me it is very amazing and worth digging deeper into info on zinc... My pediatrician is worried because of those lawsuits were people are blaming the companys that have zinc sprays and people are losing their sense of smell...I wish we could find a book with all the info we needed for our kiddos. Thanks for your response. Roxanne From: Tim Stearns Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [ ] My son seperates his syllables... It's a taste test. You taste liquid from a bottle; if you don't taste anything, your zinc is low. My daughter, 4, just swallowed it, which was a simple sign of zinc insuffiency -- if her zinc was okay she'd have made a face. I got mine by mail from Blue Mountain Apothecary, Columbia MD 21046. Cost $6.50. They've got a website you can email through. Cheers! - Tim S On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 5:49 AM, Roxie <rxflwrs@...> wrote: > > > Please tell me what is the zinc tally test.... > Roxanne > > From: Tim Stearns > Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 12:02 AM > < %40> > Subject: Re: [ ] My son seperates his syllables... > > > Hi - Please forgive a completely unprofessional answer. > > 1) Start giving your son Nutriiveda, 2 scoops daily. As Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2010 Report Share Posted May 10, 2010 Hi again. I got " zinc picolinate " capsules and give my daughter one a day, about 20 mg. Zinc picolinate shows up in research papers as getting absorbed much better than other forms (depending on how the zinc is delivered to a child). I also did a weird thing: I started buying smoked oysters and stir-frying them for my daughter twice a week -- oysters have the highest amount of zinc of any food. Nutiiveda gives her still a bit more zinc, but because it's a different form I don't know whether she absorbs it. But according to a test two months after her zinc tally test, her zinc levels had come up to a normal range. I would hope that your daughter would benefit most from Nutriiveda (which seems to me to combine best the largest number of good supplements), plus zinc picolinate, plus answers to chemical questions: what specific chemical cascades do her doctor and the geneticist think are weak? Learning which chemical paths are weak, and where they're weak, would help most when it comes to helping your daughter ... All the best! - Tim Stearns On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Roxie <rxflwrs@...> wrote: > > > How much zinc are you giving her???? you are the first person that I have > talked to that actually is doing what I want to do...the blood tests are not > accurate so I saw the taste test info but the apothacary is requiring a > prescription to mix it accurately. My daughter had terrible pica at age 4 > and when I gave her the flintstone vitamins it stopped. by accident I gave > her the flintstone with calcium and did not realize it did not contain any > zinc and the pica behavior started again. I checked the containers and > restarted her on the flintstone complete and the behavior stopped. Since > then she has had immune issues (she is on vivagobbin) and sores inside her > mouth usually near her gums so allergists suggested putting her up to 50 > extra mg and we were on that level for a few months but a genetist said put > her up to 100mg and we have been there about 2 years. But the info I have > read says she may be one of the few that requires zinc supplementation the > rest of her life. I have notice cognitive growth on this level to me it is > very amazing and worth digging deeper into info on zinc... My pediatrician > is worried because of those lawsuits were people are blaming > the companys that have zinc sprays and people are losing their sense of > smell...I wish we could find a book with all the info we needed for our > kiddos. Thanks for your response. > Roxanne > > From: Tim Stearns > Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 3:20 PM > > < %40> > Subject: Re: [ ] My son seperates his syllables... > > It's a taste test. You taste liquid from a bottle; if you don't taste > anything, your zinc is low. My daughter, 4, just swallowed it, which was a > simple sign of zinc insuffiency -- if her zinc was okay she'd have made a > face. I got mine by mail from Blue Mountain Apothecary, Columbia MD 21046. > Cost $6.50. They've got a website you can email through. Cheers! - > > Tim S > > On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 5:49 AM, Roxie <rxflwrs@...<rxflwrs%40att.net>> > wrote: > > > > > > > Please tell me what is the zinc tally test.... > > Roxanne > > > > From: Tim Stearns > > Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 12:02 AM > > To: < %40> > < %40> > > > Subject: Re: [ ] My son seperates his syllables... > > > > > > Hi - Please forgive a completely unprofessional answer. > > > > 1) Start giving your son Nutriiveda, 2 scoops daily. As > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Tim- Could you tell me more about this whey protein isolate and BioZzz? Could some of the things that you discuss also help asthema and eczema? We met the neurologist today for my 4 year old daughter, and he actually suggested ADD MEDICATION. I would love help avoiding that! Sincerely, Meyer Re: [ ] My son seperates his syllables... Hi - Please forgive a completely unprofessional answer. 1) Start giving your son Nutriiveda, 2 scoops daily. As alternatives you could consider whey protein isolate or even BioZzz. 2) Also give him fish oils (Nordic Naturals ProEFA and ProEPA, ratio 2:1). 3) Read Autism: Effective Biomedical Treatments, and add to the above supplements any that a DAN! doctor thinks aren't well enough provided by the above. 4) Have your son tested for deficiencies: e.g., full panel amino acid, serum serotonin, vitamin D, zinc tally tests; a DAN! doctor can also suggest Great Plains, Metametrix, and Neuroscience " home " tests. I wouldn't get a genetics test until there are several symptoms suggesting one. Testing may provide information but treatments are more important. 5) Read Gut and Psychology Syndrome by -McBride. Your son's brain isn't building connections well. The lack of building could be quite local to Broca's area (from your description) or it could be more widespread. You can tell if it's more widespread if he doesn't seem to " get " concepts, categorize, make sequences, and other attributes of a nicely developing imagination -- when a child's brain doesn't build connections well, his images don't grow quickly. If the building is more local, as with many apraxics, his brain may not form sound memories or join them together well. The five steps above approach apraxia as a starvation problem. Apraxia is much more one of disrupted nutrition than at first strikes the eye; and anyway, the approach is excellent generically: it will help almost anyone, and could very well do so better than any other. For an educational approach, ABA, TEACCH, and Early Start Denver Model programs have good track records. Ms and many people work with PROMPT. In certain cases, specific computer workouts help kids past blocks; some children's brains seem fine, and their minds have simply missed a section of normal learning. But I feel relying only on education, without thoroughly checking for possible metabolic and neurochemical needs, risks a lot. And why am I so heavy-handed? Been there, done that, is why. I trusted doctors and therapists and now have to live with their educated ignorance. All my best wishes to you and your son. Tim Stearns On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 11:18 PM, cassrob224@... <mailto:cassrob224%40sbcglobal.net> < cassrob224@... <mailto:cassrob224%40sbcglobal.net> > wrote: > > > My son was diagnosed with apraxia a little over 2 yrs ago. He just turned > 5. He has a good number of one syllable words, but only a handful of 2 > syllable words. Mommy, and daddy are blended, but that's about it. Dirty is > dir-ty etc... > Has anyone else seen this? Is this common for apraxia? If you have > experenced it, what did you do to correct it? Are there any fun play ways to > correct it? > Thank you!! > Crystal > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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