Guest guest Posted May 10, 2010 Report Share Posted May 10, 2010 Kim, ABSOLUTELY correct!! Yvette A. Re: [ ] Re: Study on Nutriiveda/Happy Mother's Day!! > > , > > I did read 's story. However, my impression is that this is still a rare anecdotal case. If you have so much faith in Nutriiveda, I am wondering why you have not convinced a mainstream neurology department of a major hospital to organize a scientific placebo trial for you on the effective of Nutriiveda on autism. That is the right way for pursuit of research, if you would agree. > > Mainstream neurologists normally write off all alternative treatment other than fish oil as lack of scientific basis and not worth trying. However, some has warmed up to these ideas. E.g., a major neurology department on the west coast is organizing a placebo trial for B12 shots. > > Also, I am wondering whether you have involved your developmental pediatrician friend, Dr, Marilyn C. Agin, in having her patient try out Nutriiveda. > > Anyway, I am not trying to be a " party pooper " but just to provide a fair and balanced view for the parents on this board since all of them have gone through a lot searching for a cure for our kids. > > Xun > > > > > Xun we are all parents entitled to our opinions- but...you are making it appear as if the only type child that has responded to nutriiveda is one with apraxia and that is not true. There are not only success stories for children, teens, adults with autism, TBI, seizures etc but there are have been success stories for children with genetic disorders if you check the archives. And because I have not written any details about research, and because you have not viewed the survey- you can only state your viewpoint, not facts, so please don't make it appear as if you know something you don't. > > Some don't understand whole food nutrition- some of which I try to explain here http://pursuitofresearch.org/NutriiVeda_Information.pdf or let their child try it, that's their prerogative. Some people still feel that way about fish oil. But why discourage another parent from looking into it? What did I write Xun other than for her to share the info with her child's doctor? And what makes you so sure your child or anyone else's child for that matter has severe autism? > > Did you read Ketchum's history? > > ...up till 17 years old various medical, speech, educational professionals all over the US, including some fairly respected medical professionals diagnosed Ketchum as autistic and mentally retarded. She was at the time of starting nutriiveda twenty five years old, unable to feed, dress, bathe herself. Essentially catatonic with little facial expression or ability to communicate. She needed to be sedated to see a professional and wouldn't allow her sisters to put make up on her or do her hair. Robin was unable to leave her side and had to watch for any seizures as well because Mel had almost died twice of seizures and was on high levels of Depakote. She had such severe headaches from her seizures that she would hold her head and tears would just come down her face. > > is not like my children who you state are the only type of children that would respond to whole food nutrition/nutriiveda We have over two hundred children, teens and adults from our group on nutriiveda now. Were you aware of that? In my opinion I'd consider Ketchum's situation quite severe -I'd say most would. But the point is people make mistakes -professionals and parents are people too. At 17 years old due to this group Robin learned about apraxia and it was found out through further evaluations from more medical professionals that was NOT autistic, nor mentally retarded and instead had profound global apraxia and traumatic brain injury. The PA school system was sued for abuse on behalf of who on top of her impairments also developed post traumatic stress from the inappropriate therapy and placements (ABA for example) and the Ketchum family won on Mel's behalf. > > Twenty five years of silence and no progress after numerous methods were attempted including off label adult medication for Alzheimer's which some parents of autistic children don't seem to question...and no progress. THREE MONTHS (not years) of nutriiveda has brought not just a voice -but a life back...and not once but twice as if you took the time to read her blog and background http://littlemermaidmelanie.wordpress.com/about Mel's background > http://littlemermaidmelanie.wordpress.com/about Most recent blog messages > > Clearly based on how quickly she has responded to nutriiveda, how within months she was able to sit at the kitchen table and discuss with Robin her dreams for the future...there was something maybe really simple missing from Mel's diet. So what if another parent read your message who has a child like and instead of trying nutriiveda which is simple and inexpensive to TRY- they got that book written by a woman who is 'not keen on selling you a supplement' Oh yes I'm sure they all work for free. And again -food doesn't always need research to prove it's necessary to our bodies as it's not electroshock therapy- which BETTER (try) to back up it's abuse with " research " . I wrote about why essential amino acids are important for our bodies- I didn't make that up -it's well known. http://pursuitofresearch.org/science.html > > And speaking of credible doctors writing papers to support electroshock for autism -I just posted one here by some autism doctors who state the reasons for electroshock...and there are medical doctors recommending off label adult medications for children too. Again if you are going to use possible dangerous or life threatening means to possibly try to help a child -you BETTER have solid clinical research behind it. And even more important in today's research you probably have a huge pharmaceutical company behind you to help fund the research. But do you have to have solid clinical research behind eating an apple? Yes...and in that same light you can find solid clinical research for each food in nutriiveda- because again it's nutrition from whole foods. But a clinical study using fish oil or any other food is much harder to secure funding in today. And we've tried. I mean I've been around this block more than once and know there STILL isn't good clinical research to show the importance of fish oils for our group of children...but fish oils are working - there's no money from Mother Nature as our Moms always told us money doesn't grow on trees. > > And I get it Xun -I talked to one parent who spent in her own words a million dollars on trying everything in the world for her autistic son who by the way has had success with nutrivieda. So perhaps nutriiveda is some sort of threat to not that mom -but to some who feel -how can it be that easy? > > How many sailors died of scurvy prior to them learning all that was needed was vitamin C...or an orange? Did some have to go through blood letting or whatever " medical " means back then that failed? And what about Dr. Withering's life long goal to find out why the witches brew cured that woman with heart disease only to find out it was the herb fox glove which to this day is still better than any man made drug for that particular heart condition? > http://www.historyofscience.com/articles/jmnorman-william-withering.php > > isn't autistic but you are again 100 percent wrong in stating that nutriiveda is not having an affect on those diagnosed with autism based on feedback here even -there are possibly more with autism than apraxia on nutriiveda doing really well actually! Or perhaps autism and apraxia -have to check the survey. I am getting calls from doctors (Dan included) who work with autistic children who are seeing the dramatic results in their patients and are as shocked as anyone else. And again -up till 17 was considered so severe autistic and MR that in Robin's words most 'gave up hope on her' And who is to say since wasn't diagnosed appropriately up till 17 years old that there are some of you reading this right now with a child diagnosed with autism that is not progressing...and like Mel not because the autism is so severe...but because it's a misdiagnosis? > > It's up to each of us what we feed our children- I have no issues with whole foods, fish oils...and while yes there will most certainly be research to validate one does NOT need clinical research before they order dinner at a restaurant or drink a protein shake! Or most I know anyway. The most logical thing to me would be to try nutriiveda and come back and post here how it did or didn't work for your child with autism or whatever the diagnosis. As a healthy food -nutriiveda is showing strong results in 9 out of 10 children based on the survey results, and again no...not all the children have just apraxia. > > I don't know how many other ways to say this -nutriiveda is not a drug, it's a food. Our nonprofit is selling it at our cost and using it as a fundraiser but you are free to buy it from Chopra and pay more. Water it down and it's a protein shake with an ayurvedic twist formulated by world renowned medical doctors. I'm not sharing what I know about any upcoming research so as not to compromise anything but let's just say I'll be happy a few years from now. > > In addition to the testimonies posted here -and Mel's blog -you can read more testimonies here and as you will read some of them are for children with autism and other issues as well. > http://pursuitofresearch.org/testimonials.html > > Again hope all had a Happy Mother's Day and again thankful for Mother Nature so Happy Mother's Day to Mother Nature as well! > > ===== > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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