Re: Just began stuttering

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Hi, Roz-- your name is familiar to me, what state are you in?

Becky in NJ

In a message dated 6/27/2010 7:02:23 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

hubinger@... writes:

Hi everyone

My 4 year old son has apraxia and has been in speech therapy for two years

now. We have seen some fair progress during that time (Mostly since we

started him on some supplements and then since he started with an actual

PROMPT therapist about a year ago) About a week ago we noticed an increase in

sentences and articulation. Then four days ago he began stuttering

(completely new for us). Does anyone have any advice for us on this, or has

anyone

had a similar experience? We are obviously very concerned.

Thanks so much

Roz

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Hi Becky I'm in CA

>

> Hi, Roz-- your name is familiar to me, what state are you in?

>

>

> Becky in NJ

>

>

> In a message dated 6/27/2010 7:02:23 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> hubinger@... writes:

>

>

>

>

> Hi everyone

>

> My 4 year old son has apraxia and has been in speech therapy for two years

> now. We have seen some fair progress during that time (Mostly since we

> started him on some supplements and then since he started with an actual

> PROMPT therapist about a year ago) About a week ago we noticed an increase in

> sentences and articulation. Then four days ago he began stuttering

> (completely new for us). Does anyone have any advice for us on this, or has

anyone

> had a similar experience? We are obviously very concerned.

>

> Thanks so much

> Roz

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Yes this comes up here often and lots on apraxia and stuttering. And why

shouldn't there be when both are motor planning impairments of speech? No

apraxia is not the same as those diagnosed with traditional stuttering, the

stuttering phase some apraxic children go through is developmental stuttering

(typically anyway) so developmental strategies for stuttering such as talking

slow, giving the child full attention when he or she is trying to speak are

recommended -NOT traditional stuttering therapy.

VERY important is to hold off right now on concentration on any articulation

therapy -not sure what the Prompt therapist is working on but yes, for apraxia

too much work on articulation can cause and/or prolong stuttering. Typically

once in this " bumpy " stage it takes awhile to get over it and it's VERY

frustrating for all -but instead of me making this message any longer -here are

just a few of the archives with more info and suggestions!

Re: Unsure of the next step/stuttering

Hi Tara!

Sorry I missed your last message asking about this 6 months ago.

Unfortunately around that time many of the " old timers " had tuned out

a bit or more would have answered you then to let you know that this

is a normal phase of apraxia that some pass through. Actually it's

included in the " stages of apraxia " I wrote for The Late Talker book

that I have below.

Children with apraxia don't get " stuck " forever at a stage -it just

feels like that. Actually without appropriate therapy they could be

stuck -but that's not the same thing. It's up to us the parents to

make sure we secure appropriate therapies so that our child continues

to progress.

For the stuttering stage of apraxia it is important to know that I've

checked this out many times with my own son when he went through this

stage that started around the same age as your child and lasted for a

few years that this is not classic stuttering but developmental

stuttering. For whatever reason when an apraxic child goes through

this stage they do appear to get stuck there -but again it's not

forever. During this phase you have to be very careful not to do

articulation therapy as that appears to make the stuttering worse.

There are some strategies such as when your daughter is

talking...relax your body -everybody needs to stop what they are

doing -and just listen no matter how long it takes. Give her all the

time in the world -and let her know this is just another stage she is

going through and you'll help her get through this too. It's cruel

that when our kids finally get to speak they start to stutter -like

insult to injury. If you google " stuttering apraxic " you'll find

messages from both me as well as Rhonda who founded the nonprofit

ECHO of Canada as both her daughter Maddie and my son Tanner went

through this at the same time and it drove both of us nuts. Here's

the link http://cahn.mnsu.edu/profin4/

Rhonda did speak to some world renowned researchers in stuttering

that are located in Canada and even though apraxia and stuttering are

not the same disorder -they are both motor planning disorders of

speech so once again there are some overlaps neurologically speaking.

I can tell you that we tried many out of the box therapies to address

the stuttering including therapeutic listening. Helped a bit -ride

therapy helped make Tanner's speech smoother ( " Mr. Bumpy " which was

what we named the stuttering) must of been scared by the rides we

used to joke! But fortunately for you that we know one other way to

help reduce the stuttering! I can tell by the archives below you are

using ProEFA and vitamin E (let us know exact dosage of each) You

may have to use a slightly higher dosage of the alpha gamma vitamin

E. The vitamin E appears to have the same effect as the " ride

therapy " but it lasts!

As far as friends I would visit many of the sites for stuttering as

there is much there to support children and families who have to deal

with stuttering. I kind of wish apraxia was linked to stuttering

more as they have the most awesome advocacy (and celebrity

spokespeople) outside of hearing impaired organizations.

Here's just a few

How to talk to kids about it

http://www.friendswhostutter.com/reachout_05.asp

Books about it for all ages

http://www.mnsu.edu/comdis/kuster/kids/kidsbooks.html

And of course the awesome Stuttering Foundation (adopt apraxia please)

http://www.stutteringhelp.org/

Much more -just google it. Just not much on the stuttering phase of

apraxia -that you mainly have to find out here in the archives and

from us -the " old timers "

After reading this let me know if you have any other questions -and

hopefully other " old timers " who have children that went through this

stage will chime in too!

~~~~~~~~~~~~start of archives on this:

Re: Stuttering

Hi Amy!

My son Tanner never stutters at all anymore -he's 9 now. Well there

was that one day recently when we went to Orlando for my boys and a

friend of theirs when they were supposed to just be a film my friend

was directing as " background kids " and last minute she had two bit

roles and there was that on the spot audition that the group

of " background kids " read for...Tanner had no head's up to this.

Was in front of everyone. He read it OK -but didn't act it like the

other kids -and read it slow and yes, he stuttered just a bit.

Even then, however, he really didn't stutter. It's over -the

developmental stage of apraxia where they can go to stuttering is

over (!) And yes -this is a stage you probably won't learn

about anywhere else because it hasn't been studied enough yet. But

years ago I was also first to talk about neuroMDs, schools for the

hearing impaired, EFAs, even when others laughed.

But mark my words -all will know this too one day.

There is more than one stage of apraxia.

(see the " nonverbal " stage below for that topic)

sigh

Well anyway:

it's not stuttering in the classic sense -it is stuttering in the

normal developmental stage sense and it can just happen later and

last a bit longer and it does drive you and your child to the

heights of frustration. I mean how cruel, they finally can talk

more, and now they stutter!

Since this has come up lots before -here's a recent archive -way

more in the archives!:

From: sherry silvern <srsilvern@...>

Date: Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:00 pm

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: stuttering srsilvern

WOW! Thanks - that was incredibly helpful! Josh's SLP still has

not heard

the " stutter " but said she will keep an ear out for it and try to

recreate it -

it only happens on the vowel sounds, 'o' in particular - pretty

unusual from

what I understand. She said it could be a breath support issue,

since it is on

the vowels, or he's trying to say things too quickly. When I do hear

it, I

stroke his arm and get him to slow down, then he can get the words

out without a problem. For a kid who loves oatmeal and ovaltine,

getting stuck on

the 'o' is pretty rough!

Thanks again, Sherry

kiddietalk <kiddietalk@...> wrote:

Hi Sherry!

I have advice. Once again a topic I wish I wasn't personally an

expert on! My advice today -don't worry about stuttering and

apraxia. It's a really hard stage to go through, believe me I know,

but there is a light at the end...and there is an end!

It took Tanner years to pass through his developmental stage of

stuttering which started at 4 and lasted about 3-4 years -but it's

over now. (listen to Tanner with developmental stuttering at 4 years

9 months

here http://www.debtsmart.com/talk/tanner.html )

Some days or times his stuttering would be worse then others. Some

days it would be not so bad. It would completely go away the day

after we went to Universal or Disney and went on Gforce rides for

example as I posted here. But once again it's gone now -rides or no

rides.

Tanner who is now nine, was never diagnosed as a " stutterer " by any

SLP, or SLP PhD that has seen him. And that includes two PhDs who

specialized in stuttering, one being Dr. Dale . Both

considered Tanner's Stuttering to be developmental, and both of them

as well as the rest did not recommend stuttering therapy for

apraxia. All agreed the best approach for this " stage " is " slow and

easy speech " and to continue therapy for the apraxia.

Tanner today at 9 speaks clearly today without stuttering. His

dysfluency stage lasted way too long in my opinion, but it's over

now and he just keeps improving. Like learning to speak however -

it's all at a way slower pace.

Even though Tanner's communication abilities at this point are still

developmentally delayed, he is diagnosed to be comparable to that of

a 5 or 6 year old child in regards to his communication skills, he

is now at the stage where he is able to speak in full grammatically

correct sentences. With shorter utterances he is indistinguishable

from his peers. He clearly breaks down in trying to verbally

express his views academically using the more sophisticated language

necessary for his curriculum in science, history, language arts,

etc. which is where this years problem has arisen since some

teachers are shockingly negatively judging Tanner's ability on his

inability to communicate verbally (even though he " tests well " ahhhh)

None of Tanner's communication delays however affect his ability

to " communicate " with adults or his peers. He is very popular at

school with everyone, even children that are developmentally

advanced or even years older. Tanner hangs out with children that

are his age and older. His " one " best friend we have a play date

with this week is . was just tested as genius level,

working well above his grade level in all subjects, and at 8 just

advanced to the forth grade. This is the child I spoke about

somewhere in the archives that was at 6 speaking in great detail

about the " philosophical aspects of space and time travel " -opposite

of speech delayed!

To fight the discrimination against Tanner's verbal disability we

are once again going the testing route which is my tried and true

method of stopping the negative spiral downward in it's tracks. Dr.

Renai Jonas will complete Tanner's expressive and receptive

testing. And the " clinical and forensic psychologist " who tested

(above story) will also be testing Tanner's IQ later this

month. I just dropped off to him The Late Talker book yesterday to

make sure he is aware of Tanner's limitations with verbal

communication in testing -and he promised all nonverbal IQ tests

that I approve. Don't want to say which ones yet because I don't

know all for sure -I know one may be the Leiter-R. Will keep you

guys posted.

The following quote is from Tanner's therapist Dr. Renai Jonas from

Boca Raton, Florida who has personally now witnessed Tanner finally

pass through the 'developmental stage' of stuttering that started

for him at around 4 and lasted till around seven or eight years

old. This quote was not specifically for stuttering -but I know

that's part of what she's referring to.

" In the area of apraxia, not being able to talk affects ones ability

to practice and learn in the same way as ones peers. Apraxia

creates a developmental delay that lasts longer, however the child

can catch up and can even surpass his peers. "

Dr. Renai Jonas (561) 361 - 0307.

Early Steps Program, Palm Beach County, FL Adjunct Professor,

Florida Atlantic University

Here's an archive of mine of this subject:

Stuttering and apraxia, is it a stage or overlap? Dysfluency can be

part of normal development in speech in young children -and if our

kids can

go through drooling and teething at three -why would it be

impossible for them to go through dysfluency at three or older?

When did I first bring this up on the web...over three years ago

http://cahn.mnsu.edu/profin4/_disc1/0000008c.htm

Tanner today at 7 and a half, I wouldn't describe it as stuttering

anymore. He at times speaks a bit slower, but not always. He

almost always needs to break his long thoughts into shorter

sentences, and pause between each one. He can talk -but it takes

longer to get it out then most of us. You can hear his most recent

talking page update here

http://www.debtsmart.com/talk/tanner.html

Below I cut and pasted some archives on this -but there are many

more. In particular notice the parent observed " stages of

apraxia " that I wrote below. There are that many apraxic children

that go through this " stuttering " thing I call it a " stage "

I say I wouldn't change anything below but I take that back. Now

that I think of it, since our children don't go through normal

developmental stages young -it's OK they go through them older.

With appropriate therapy they will continue to develop past these

stages. At least that's what I have seen in Tanner and some others

in this group. But that's not a fact -just my opinion.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Archives

My Tanner's problem today at almost seven is with stuttering on and

off. Today Tanner's doing really well in speech -but as I posted

below -now that he is learning to read and his vocabulary is

expanding and he's pushing himself to speak in longer more complex

sentences -he ranges from having almost no stuttering to hesitation

on many words. For this reason -I just took Tanner to see

stuttering expert Dr. Dale from Florida Atlantic University

who diagnosed Tanner as having 20% fluency issues. Dr.

believes that Tanner's stuttering is not a true stuttering -but a

developmental one. Apraxic stuttering...appears there is such a

thing -so I guess down the road we will hear more about this. Dr.

confirmed that once apraxic children learn to talk -they

are hearing more and more about children with apraxia and

stuttering together. What was of great interest to those of you in

this group who also report hearing stuttering coming and going in

your apraxic child is that Dr. said that " we have done an

injustice as you say to apraxia and have not studied it enough, so

we really don't know how long is " normal " for the dysfluency stage

in an apraxic child -we really don't. We do know that many apraxic

children appear to take longer to go through stages. "

Dr. advised not to proceed with traditional stuttering

therapy for now -outside of continuing with slow and easy speech

practices. So here is the good news for all of us in this group who

have children going through this -Dr. said " I don't believe

this is something that Tanner will be dealing with for life at this

point "

Re: HELP: How can you prevent stutterring?

Hi Celilia!

The developmental stage of stuttering is one many children go

through normally as they develop language. So while nobody 'wants'

their child to drool, chew, stutter (or ask " Why? " 6000 times in a

row) they are all par for the course.

Sometimes we view things as " negative " when they are normal stages.

In the case of apraxia our children may go through some of the

developmental stages later...which in my opinion is better than not

at all. Developmental stages are there for a reason.

As wisely pointed out the other day to parents who

complained how children became more talkative -but also cranky

and " unruly " when given EFAs ...that's 'normal' behavior for

preschool children in most cases. If your child didn't go through

the " terrible twos " and doesn't go through them till you start EFAs

at 4...then they are just going through that stage late.

(on their way to " normal " )

Do you really want to 'stop' a stage that may be an important

developmental stage? Probably not. Slow and easy speech back to

the child and giving them time is probably the best advice we had

for my apraxic son Tanner. We heard this from " stuttering experts "

too including Dr. Dale from FAU.

Tanner by the way did go through a very long stuttering phase (in

fact google the words " stuttering apraxic " and you'll find my post

from some online stuttering conference in 2001)

http://cahn.mnsu.edu/profin4/_disc1/0000008c.htm

And listen to Tanner say the three little pigs

Best talking he ever did at that point -but he stutters it a bit.

http://www.debtsmart.com/talk/tanner.html

Tanner is 9 years old today and he does not stutter at all anymore

unless he's really really nervous -like the time he had to read a

script in front of a room full of strangers for a movie one of my

friends was directing here in Florida. Even then however -it's not

stuttering in the sense of classic stuttering.

If you stop or reduce the EFAs -you'll probably just stop or reduce

the acceleration the EFAs create -thus your child won't have as much

to say -and less to say means no stuttering! As I said above

however I doubt that's what you are looking for.

Thaaaaat's all folks! )

(I can joke about it because I'm here to tell you that " this too

shall pass)

=====

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Thanks so much , I really appreciate all this information. It is scary to

know we may be facing another three years of this but comforting to know other

apraxic kids have eventually overcome it.

You mentioned something about increasing Vitamin E. Right now we give our son

one tsp of ProEFA a day (contains 30 IU Vit E) and a multivitamin that has 60

IU. Do you recommend more Vit E (like a separate supplement) and (excuse my

ignorance) are there different types of Vit E, and only a specific type that

could help with the stuttering?

Thanks again!

Roz

> Hi Sherry!

>

> I have advice. Once again a topic I wish I wasn't personally an

> expert on! My advice today -don't worry about stuttering and

> apraxia. It's a really hard stage to go through, believe me I know,

> but there is a light at the end...and there is an end!

>

> It took Tanner years to pass through his developmental stage of

> stuttering which started at 4 and lasted about 3-4 years -but it's

> over now. (listen to Tanner with developmental stuttering at 4 years

> 9 months

> here http://www.debtsmart.com/talk/tanner.html )

>

> Some days or times his stuttering would be worse then others. Some

> days it would be not so bad. It would completely go away the day

> after we went to Universal or Disney and went on Gforce rides for

> example as I posted here. But once again it's gone now -rides or no

> rides.

>

> Tanner who is now nine, was never diagnosed as a " stutterer " by any

> SLP, or SLP PhD that has seen him. And that includes two PhDs who

> specialized in stuttering, one being Dr. Dale . Both

> considered Tanner's Stuttering to be developmental, and both of them

> as well as the rest did not recommend stuttering therapy for

> apraxia. All agreed the best approach for this " stage " is " slow and

> easy speech " and to continue therapy for the apraxia.

>

> Tanner today at 9 speaks clearly today without stuttering. His

> dysfluency stage lasted way too long in my opinion, but it's over

> now and he just keeps improving. Like learning to speak however -

> it's all at a way slower pace.

>

> Even though Tanner's communication abilities at this point are still

> developmentally delayed, he is diagnosed to be comparable to that of

> a 5 or 6 year old child in regards to his communication skills, he

> is now at the stage where he is able to speak in full grammatically

> correct sentences. With shorter utterances he is indistinguishable

> from his peers. He clearly breaks down in trying to verbally

> express his views academically using the more sophisticated language

> necessary for his curriculum in science, history, language arts,

> etc. which is where this years problem has arisen since some

> teachers are shockingly negatively judging Tanner's ability on his

> inability to communicate verbally (even though he " tests well " ahhhh)

>

> None of Tanner's communication delays however affect his ability

> to " communicate " with adults or his peers. He is very popular at

> school with everyone, even children that are developmentally

> advanced or even years older. Tanner hangs out with children that

> are his age and older. His " one " best friend we have a play date

> with this week is . was just tested as genius level,

> working well above his grade level in all subjects, and at 8 just

> advanced to the forth grade. This is the child I spoke about

> somewhere in the archives that was at 6 speaking in great detail

> about the " philosophical aspects of space and time travel " -opposite

> of speech delayed!

>

> To fight the discrimination against Tanner's verbal disability we

> are once again going the testing route which is my tried and true

> method of stopping the negative spiral downward in it's tracks. Dr.

> Renai Jonas will complete Tanner's expressive and receptive

> testing. And the " clinical and forensic psychologist " who tested

> (above story) will also be testing Tanner's IQ later this

> month. I just dropped off to him The Late Talker book yesterday to

> make sure he is aware of Tanner's limitations with verbal

> communication in testing -and he promised all nonverbal IQ tests

> that I approve. Don't want to say which ones yet because I don't

> know all for sure -I know one may be the Leiter-R. Will keep you

> guys posted.

>

> The following quote is from Tanner's therapist Dr. Renai Jonas from

> Boca Raton, Florida who has personally now witnessed Tanner finally

> pass through the 'developmental stage' of stuttering that started

> for him at around 4 and lasted till around seven or eight years

> old. This quote was not specifically for stuttering -but I know

> that's part of what she's referring to.

>

> " In the area of apraxia, not being able to talk affects ones ability

> to practice and learn in the same way as ones peers. Apraxia

> creates a developmental delay that lasts longer, however the child

> can catch up and can even surpass his peers. "

> Dr. Renai Jonas (561) 361 - 0307.

>

> Early Steps Program, Palm Beach County, FL Adjunct Professor,

> Florida Atlantic University

>

>

> Here's an archive of mine of this subject:

>

> Stuttering and apraxia, is it a stage or overlap? Dysfluency can be

> part of normal development in speech in young children -and if our

> kids can

> go through drooling and teething at three -why would it be

> impossible for them to go through dysfluency at three or older?

> When did I first bring this up on the web...over three years ago

> http://cahn.mnsu.edu/profin4/_disc1/0000008c.htm

>

> Tanner today at 7 and a half, I wouldn't describe it as stuttering

> anymore. He at times speaks a bit slower, but not always. He

> almost always needs to break his long thoughts into shorter

> sentences, and pause between each one. He can talk -but it takes

> longer to get it out then most of us. You can hear his most recent

> talking page update here

> http://www.debtsmart.com/talk/tanner.html

>

> Below I cut and pasted some archives on this -but there are many

> more. In particular notice the parent observed " stages of

> apraxia " that I wrote below. There are that many apraxic children

> that go through this " stuttering " thing I call it a " stage "

>

> I say I wouldn't change anything below but I take that back. Now

> that I think of it, since our children don't go through normal

> developmental stages young -it's OK they go through them older.

> With appropriate therapy they will continue to develop past these

> stages. At least that's what I have seen in Tanner and some others

> in this group. But that's not a fact -just my opinion.

>

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Archives

> My Tanner's problem today at almost seven is with stuttering on and

> off. Today Tanner's doing really well in speech -but as I posted

> below -now that he is learning to read and his vocabulary is

> expanding and he's pushing himself to speak in longer more complex

> sentences -he ranges from having almost no stuttering to hesitation

> on many words. For this reason -I just took Tanner to see

> stuttering expert Dr. Dale from Florida Atlantic University

> who diagnosed Tanner as having 20% fluency issues. Dr.

> believes that Tanner's stuttering is not a true stuttering -but a

> developmental one. Apraxic stuttering...appears there is such a

> thing -so I guess down the road we will hear more about this. Dr.

> confirmed that once apraxic children learn to talk -they

> are hearing more and more about children with apraxia and

> stuttering together. What was of great interest to those of you in

> this group who also report hearing stuttering coming and going in

> your apraxic child is that Dr. said that " we have done an

> injustice as you say to apraxia and have not studied it enough, so

> we really don't know how long is " normal " for the dysfluency stage

> in an apraxic child -we really don't. We do know that many apraxic

> children appear to take longer to go through stages. "

>

> Dr. advised not to proceed with traditional stuttering

> therapy for now -outside of continuing with slow and easy speech

> practices. So here is the good news for all of us in this group who

> have children going through this -Dr. said " I don't believe

> this is something that Tanner will be dealing with for life at this

> point "

>

> Re: HELP: How can you prevent stutterring?

>

>

> Hi Celilia!

>

> The developmental stage of stuttering is one many children go

> through normally as they develop language. So while nobody 'wants'

> their child to drool, chew, stutter (or ask " Why? " 6000 times in a

> row) they are all par for the course.

>

> Sometimes we view things as " negative " when they are normal stages.

> In the case of apraxia our children may go through some of the

> developmental stages later...which in my opinion is better than not

> at all. Developmental stages are there for a reason.

>

> As wisely pointed out the other day to parents who

> complained how children became more talkative -but also cranky

> and " unruly " when given EFAs ...that's 'normal' behavior for

> preschool children in most cases. If your child didn't go through

> the " terrible twos " and doesn't go through them till you start EFAs

> at 4...then they are just going through that stage late.

> (on their way to " normal " )

>

> Do you really want to 'stop' a stage that may be an important

> developmental stage? Probably not. Slow and easy speech back to

> the child and giving them time is probably the best advice we had

> for my apraxic son Tanner. We heard this from " stuttering experts "

> too including Dr. Dale from FAU.

>

> Tanner by the way did go through a very long stuttering phase (in

> fact google the words " stuttering apraxic " and you'll find my post

> from some online stuttering conference in 2001)

> http://cahn.mnsu.edu/profin4/_disc1/0000008c.htm

>

> And listen to Tanner say the three little pigs

> Best talking he ever did at that point -but he stutters it a bit.

> http://www.debtsmart.com/talk/tanner.html

>

> Tanner is 9 years old today and he does not stutter at all anymore

> unless he's really really nervous -like the time he had to read a

> script in front of a room full of strangers for a movie one of my

> friends was directing here in Florida. Even then however -it's not

> stuttering in the sense of classic stuttering.

>

> If you stop or reduce the EFAs -you'll probably just stop or reduce

> the acceleration the EFAs create -thus your child won't have as much

> to say -and less to say means no stuttering! As I said above

> however I doubt that's what you are looking for.

>

> Thaaaaat's all folks! )

> (I can joke about it because I'm here to tell you that " this too

> shall pass)

>

> =====

>

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Hi Roz,

When an apraxic child goes through the developmental stuttering phase it doesn't

mean that it will last years, it typically is being reported to stick around a

bit longer than usual -but let's hope it doesn't for your child! Trust me I

know how frustrating and even cruel this stage is. In some ways worse than the

original apraxia because they finally start to talk...and then the stutter! So

frustrating for all -I know.

In general we have found various nutrients appear to help with speech. For

example we've known for years now about the essential fatty acids (the fish

oils) which I also state below contain vitamin E for a few reasons. What I

posted was an archive and it was prior to nutriiveda which contains natural

vitamin e...and even better a water soluble version which of course to me is

preferable. I would recommend looking into the fish oils and nutriiveda- the

essential fatty acids and the essential amino acids and nutrients from whole

food sources. You may want to read some of the theories here

http://pursuitofresearch.org/science.html

We are seeing surges in all areas (you can see here a list

http://pursuitofresearch.org/pursuit.html )but I don't know about the stuttering

phase as that hasn't come up. I do know that the phase of " baby talk " that is

diagnosed typically as Speech Language Impairment in school age children is

being reported as resolving -so maybe this too? Anyone?

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Hi!!

Not the same Hubinger!!! LOL We've got a family of the same name right

down our street.

Becky

In a message dated 6/28/2010 12:31:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

hubinger@... writes:

Hi Becky I'm in CA

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> Hi, Roz-- your name is familiar to me, what state are you in?

>

>

> Becky in NJ

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>

> In a message dated 6/27/2010 7:02:23 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> hubinger@... writes:

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>

>

>

> Hi everyone

>

> My 4 year old son has apraxia and has been in speech therapy for two

years

> now. We have seen some fair progress during that time (Mostly since we

> started him on some supplements and then since he started with an actual

> PROMPT therapist about a year ago) About a week ago we noticed an

increase in

> sentences and articulation. Then four days ago he began stuttering

> (completely new for us). Does anyone have any advice for us on this, or

has anyone

> had a similar experience? We are obviously very concerned.

>

> Thanks so much

> Roz

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

No problem Becky! I guess the Hubingers really get around!

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> > Hi, Roz-- your name is familiar to me, what state are you in?

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> > Becky in NJ

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> > In a message dated 6/27/2010 7:02:23 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> > hubinger@ writes:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi everyone

> >

> > My 4 year old son has apraxia and has been in speech therapy for two

> years

> > now. We have seen some fair progress during that time (Mostly since we

> > started him on some supplements and then since he started with an actual

> > PROMPT therapist about a year ago) About a week ago we noticed an

> increase in

> > sentences and articulation. Then four days ago he began stuttering

> > (completely new for us). Does anyone have any advice for us on this, or

> has anyone

> > had a similar experience? We are obviously very concerned.

> >

> > Thanks so much

> > Roz

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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