Re: NV update

April 27, 2010

your update sounds like my child. He made huge gains in the same areas, plus

sleep. His concentration and focus is spotty at best, but so is mine so I'm not

too concerned about that. He's not on a full dose yet, but it's been over three

weeks and his behavior is beginning to level off.

I have trouble getting him to drink the full amount of NV during the day. But

for water, I've been able to increase his water intake by having drinking

contests. I bring his 12 oz Klean Kanteen and my 27 oz KK. I say, " Here's your

cup, here's my cup " then I put mine to my mouth and he does the same. Then we

drink for the same amount of time. I pull my cup away and say " ahhh " and he

mimics me. He gets quite a bit more water in him that way. It doesn't work for

the NV and if you let it sit in liquids, the protein and botanicals hydrate and

the drink becomes gritty.

Liralen

>

> Hi,

> It must be 2 months since I put up my first msg - I have a 4yr old with no dx

as yet. Living in Ireland - we started NV after Easter I started really low

dosage and built up very slowly!

> BEFORE NV

> Talking one word level - very poor articulation

> No interaction with other children

> poor play skills

> Very poor focus & concentration

>

> We are now on day 4 of NV full dosage - 2 scoops and he is only 32lbs!

> Putting two and three words together - words sounding clearer - he now

attempts to repeat most things I say.

> He is beginning to interact with other children

> His play skills have really improved

> Focus and concentration - WORSE - gone through roof!!! Hoping this is just

detox - we have the loose smelly bowels - so hoping in another 10 days things

improve with the focus. Its an area of difficulty for him - a lot of things

have improved over the last year since we started interventions but the focus

and concentration haven't really improved. So I would be interested to hear if

anyone has had improvements in these areas with NV.

>

> I have him on fish oils but only regular ones i get in local health shop.

Bought the Nordic have them in fridge - but didn't want to do NV and new fish

oils at same time. Plan to start them in a few weeks. The only difficulty

with the NV is find it hard to get him to drink the required amount of liquids.

>

> Rosemarie

>

June 24, 2010

Well I just gave my Tanner update but can add to it that when Tanner woke up

today- he's not sore one bit from all the working out he did yesterday. Again

Glenn repeated that to me...three times. I'm telling you in all the surges I

have seen in Tanner (most here http://pursuitofresearch.org/pursuit.html ) this

I think has Glenn the most baffled -a close second was Tanner's new found

ability to write beautiful and imaginative long stories as that was his biggest

weakness prior to nutriiveda.

I just shared a link about Dr. Tocco. She is very excited about working

more with our children and knows what is going on with fish oils and nutriiveda

in this group and Liralen- who knows -maybe in a few months or so from now you

and a few other parents with your kids will be sitting on her new TV show

http://myown.oprah.com/audition/index.html?request=video_details & response_id=168\

63 & promo_id=1

I don't even care if people are skeptical anymore -because the results on

nutriiveda are even hard for me to believe and I see them with my own eyes. I

mean you figure if it helped a bit in one area- but look at what we are seeing

-and all you just wrote too!! Amazing. I mean who can imagine surges across

the board such as this?

And in addition to all you have below wasn't it you that told me that the entire

last year Liam only gained a much needed pound but did that in a month on

nutriiveda?!

I was just one the phone with one of the parents from here who is afraid to

share nutriiveda with others because what if they have trouble getting the slow

growing vegetation from the whole food ayuvedic side, the leaves, fruits and

roots of these trees that take like 15 years to develop even before they are

ready to harvest anything. But the way it typically works is that when there is

a need - it helps form new jobs and new technologies to make it happen. The

owner of the company that makes nutriiveda has been a solid billionaire who's

brought 6 other companies from multi million to multi billion. He doesn't need

to work- he wants to bring eastern and western medicine together and this is

" his baby " -his dream http://www.meetbillfarley.com I can only imagine that

much will be learned from the importance for health and wellness from whole food

nutrients nutriiveda to help not just our children -but all of us.

I just read this article

http://www.reuters.com/assets/print?aid=USTRE65M0SU20100623 that the US scored

DEAD LAST in healthcare. " Americans spend twice as much as residents of other

developed countries on healthcare, but get lower quality, less efficiency and

have the least equitable system, according to a report released on Wednesday. "

So you know what that tells me -all US medical professionals -not just the upper

echelon, not just those from the prestigious hospitals -but ALL should be open

to exploring some of the newer science coming down the pike including about the

study of proteins, nutritional bio medicine. Clearly more surgery and more

medication isn't the only answer! And on the alternative side giving a child a

medicine cabinet of supplements may be on the same path of over -doing it. But

whole food sources of nutrients is pure and balanced. Essential nutrients such

as the essential fatty acids and the essential amino acids...the average

American is afraid to give anything containing them to their child without

asking a doctor's permission but will go to a party and give their child a

YooHoo without a thought!

I spoke with a nurse from a small town in the middle of the country who's doctor

still doesn't " believe " in fish oil! 2010?! Not making that up as crazy as

that sounds. If there are still doctors who don't " believe " in essential fatty

acids after all the tons of research -and even the NIH educational site for it

http://efaeducation.nih.gov what hope is there for the average individual?

Why not examine nutritional ways that are benign, healthy and can help?

Especially whole food sources. Share this with your child's doctor

http://pursuitofresearch.org/NutriiVeda_Information.pdf And new info like what

I just posted about gut health and essential amino acids here which will be

presented to the USDA

http://www.pigprogress.net/article-database/using-weanling-pigs-to-uncover-gut-s\

ecrets-id1015.html and all the theories I've added to the theory page

http://pursuitofresearch.org/science.html

Yes you expect better nutrition would mean better performance- you don't expect

miracles across the board. If you have not read the testimony page please do

http://pursuitofresearch.org/testimonials.html because until we have research to

validate why this is helping so quickly and dramatically in most I can tell you

as a parent it just seems like a miracle to me. I do hope others listen to

Liralen and update us on all the success you are seeing if you are using it.

And Liralen -CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU TOO!! I can tell you due to Tanner that it

appears that continued good nutrition from nutriiveda continues to show surges

months down the road long after you think there is anything that can get any

better.

=====

June 24, 2010

congratulations!

>

> My son has been on NV for a few months now...but he's been taking the full

dosage for only about a month. I thought it might be fun for all of us to give

an update on our kids that have been on NV for several months.

> I'll start.

> Before NV my 36 mo old son had language, but he was largely unintelligible.

He was not potty trained, woke up 3-5 times a night, would often trip when he

ran, didn't sing, dance, was just learning to jump.

>

> Within the first month, he started sleeping through the night, potty trained,

started singing and dancing and began playing imaginatively. He also gained two

lbs in 3 weeks (much needed as he's in the 10th %)

>

> Within the next few months, he has made up songs, remembers 2-3 lines from

movies he's just seen, has started jumping over things, gained another pound,

dances with more coordination, has started making his toys talk to each other

(or makes me be one toy and talk to the other toy), had developed a taste for

water and prefers it to all other drinks.

>

> Things we are still working towards. pedaling his trike, getting him to use

words instead of hitting in moments of frustration, talking more to his peers,

eating a wider variety of food and food textures.

>

> What have you seen with your child in the last few months?

> Liralen

>

June 24, 2010

Well, Liam isn't my son, I don't post his name. And although you have the right

idea you have the numbers wrong...from 20 months to 36 months, my son only

gained 2 lbs In the first three weeks on NV (half dose) he gained a little over

2 lbs and in the next month gained another lb. I suspect he's grow also, but I

can't find my measuring tape.

Liralen

>

> And in addition to all you have below wasn't it you that told me that the

entire last year Liam only gained a much needed pound but did that in a month on

nutriiveda?!

>

> >

> > My son has been on NV for a few months now...but he's been taking the full

dosage for only about a month. I thought it might be fun for all of us to give

an update on our kids that have been on NV for several months.

> > I'll start.

> > Before NV my 36 mo old son had language, but he was largely unintelligible.

He was not potty trained, woke up 3-5 times a night, would often trip when he

ran, didn't sing, dance, was just learning to jump.

> >

> > Within the first month, he started sleeping through the night, potty

trained, started singing and dancing and began playing imaginatively. He also

gained two lbs in 3 weeks (much needed as he's in the 10th %)

> >

> > Within the next few months, he has made up songs, remembers 2-3 lines from

movies he's just seen, has started jumping over things, gained another pound,

dances with more coordination, has started making his toys talk to each other

(or makes me be one toy and talk to the other toy), had developed a taste for

water and prefers it to all other drinks.

> >

> > Things we are still working towards. pedaling his trike, getting him to use

words instead of hitting in moments of frustration, talking more to his peers,

eating a wider variety of food and food textures.

> >

> > What have you seen with your child in the last few months?

> > Liralen

> >

>

June 24, 2010

Liralen,

I remember when you began the NV trial and read your comments with interest...

was apraxia your son's only dx... I can't recall if you had mentioned any other

dx that he had?

Those are wonderful and encouragaing gains!

Tatyana

[ ] NV update

My son has been on NV for a few months now...but he's been taking the full

dosage for only about a month. I thought it might be fun for all of us to give

an update on our kids that have been on NV for several months.

I'll start.

Before NV my 36 mo old son had language, but he was largely unintelligible. He

was not potty trained, woke up 3-5 times a night, would often trip when he ran,

didn't sing, dance, was just learning to jump.

Within the first month, he started sleeping through the night, potty trained,

started singing and dancing and began playing imaginatively. He also gained two

lbs in 3 weeks (much needed as he's in the 10th %)

Within the next few months, he has made up songs, remembers 2-3 lines from

movies he's just seen, has started jumping over things, gained another pound,

dances with more coordination, has started making his toys talk to each other

(or makes me be one toy and talk to the other toy), had developed a taste for

water and prefers it to all other drinks.

Things we are still working towards. pedaling his trike, getting him to use

words instead of hitting in moments of frustration, talking more to his peers,

eating a wider variety of food and food textures.

What have you seen with your child in the last few months?

Liralen

June 24, 2010

I am so happy for you!

Re: [ ] NV update

Liralen,

I remember when you began the NV trial and read your comments

with interest... was apraxia your son's only dx... I can't recall if you

had mentioned any other dx that he had?

Those are wonderful and encouragaing gains!

Tatyana

[ ] NV update

My son has been on NV for a few months now...but he's been

taking the full dosage for only about a month. I thought it might be fun

for all of us to give an update on our kids that have been on NV for

several months.

I'll start.

Before NV my 36 mo old son had language, but he was largely

unintelligible. He was not potty trained, woke up 3-5 times a night,

would often trip when he ran, didn't sing, dance, was just learning to

jump.

Within the first month, he started sleeping through the night,

potty trained, started singing and dancing and began playing

imaginatively. He also gained two lbs in 3 weeks (much needed as he's in

the 10th %)

Within the next few months, he has made up songs, remembers 2-3

lines from movies he's just seen, has started jumping over things,

gained another pound, dances with more coordination, has started making

his toys talk to each other (or makes me be one toy and talk to the

other toy), had developed a taste for water and prefers it to all other

drinks.

Things we are still working towards. pedaling his trike, getting

him to use words instead of hitting in moments of frustration, talking

more to his peers, eating a wider variety of food and food textures.

What have you seen with your child in the last few months?

Liralen

June 24, 2010

My son does not have a dx and has only been in speech therapy for 2 weeks. His

tongue does not work well.

Is your child in NV? How's it going?

>

> Liralen,

>

> I remember when you began the NV trial and read your comments with interest...

was apraxia your son's only dx... I can't recall if you had mentioned any other

dx that he had?

>

> Those are wonderful and encouragaing gains!

>

> Tatyana

>

> [ ] NV update

>

> My son has been on NV for a few months now...but he's been taking the full

dosage for only about a month. I thought it might be fun for all of us to give

an update on our kids that have been on NV for several months.

> I'll start.

> Before NV my 36 mo old son had language, but he was largely unintelligible.

He was not potty trained, woke up 3-5 times a night, would often trip when he

ran, didn't sing, dance, was just learning to jump.

>

> Within the first month, he started sleeping through the night, potty

trained, started singing and dancing and began playing imaginatively. He also

gained two lbs in 3 weeks (much needed as he's in the 10th %)

>

> Within the next few months, he has made up songs, remembers 2-3 lines from

movies he's just seen, has started jumping over things, gained another pound,

dances with more coordination, has started making his toys talk to each other

(or makes me be one toy and talk to the other toy), had developed a taste for

water and prefers it to all other drinks.

>

> Things we are still working towards. pedaling his trike, getting him to use

words instead of hitting in moments of frustration, talking more to his peers,

eating a wider variety of food and food textures.

>

> What have you seen with your child in the last few months?

> Liralen

>

June 25, 2010

Hi all!

You can send your NV updates here as Liralen asked - here's one from Becca! (I

know I know all of you that have had your child on NV for months as she is

asking are off doing " normal " stuff

BTW by reading Becca's update and knowing Tanner's -think we do need to note

that sensory is another area that improves maybe not in days -but in weeks.

Will add here http://pursuitofresearch.org/pursuit.html

Hope all are enjoying their summer break!

from Goeken <RGoeken@...>

to

June 25, 2010

I'm new to the group--can someone tell me what NV stands for?

thanks,

Malinda

On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 9:24 AM, kiddietalk <kiddietalk@...> wrote:

>

> Hi all!

>

> You can send your NV updates here as Liralen asked - here's one from Becca!

> (I know I know all of you that have had your child on NV for months as she

> is asking are off doing " normal " stuff

>

> BTW by reading Becca's update and knowing Tanner's -think we do need to

> note that sensory is another area that improves maybe not in days -but in

> weeks. Will add here http://pursuitofresearch.org/pursuit.html

>

> Hope all are enjoying their summer break!

>

> from Goeken <RGoeken@... <RGoeken%40wichitafms.com>>

> to

June 25, 2010

Nutriiveda... It is a weight loss suppliment, that by accident, we found

is profoundly helping our children with a variety of issues... Even

though it was made for weight loss, it helps the body do what is needed,

and several kids have grown and gained weight on it when they needed to!

I would check the back blogs if you can... Or you can go to the

Pursuitofresearch.com website.

M

Re: [ ] Re: NV update

I'm new to the group--can someone tell me what NV stands for?

thanks,

Malinda

June 25, 2010

Nutriiveda

Re: [ ] Re: NV update

I'm new to the group--can someone tell me what NV stands for?

June 25, 2010

On my phone but just want to point out the site ends .org and not .com. all info

@ http://WWW.pursuitofresearch.org -

>

> Nutriiveda... It is a weight loss suppliment, that by accident, we found

> is profoundly helping our children with a variety of issues... Even

> though it was made for weight loss, it helps the body do what is needed,

> and several kids have grown and gained weight on it when they needed to!

> I would check the back blogs if you can... Or you can go to the

> Pursuitofresearch.com website.

> M

>

> Re: [ ] Re: NV update

>

> I'm new to the group--can someone tell me what NV stands for?

>

> thanks,

> Malinda

>

June 25, 2010

My son has been on NV for almost 2 months now. He's 5 and a half, diagnosed

with autism, apaxia, hypotonia.... I do believe his speech is slowly

increasing. But he's not gaining any weight. He's in the 2%, weighing only

33lbs. Should I increase his dosage from 2 scoops per day? Maybe this would

help his size and development.

thank you,

Nadia

>

> Hi all!

>

> You can send your NV updates here as Liralen asked - here's one from Becca!

(I know I know all of you that have had your child on NV for months as she is

asking are off doing " normal " stuff

>

> BTW by reading Becca's update and knowing Tanner's -think we do need to note

that sensory is another area that improves maybe not in days -but in weeks.

Will add here http://pursuitofresearch.org/pursuit.html

>

> Hope all are enjoying their summer break!

>

> from Goeken <RGoeken@...>

> to

June 25, 2010

I'm not sure about the dosage. but I didn't notice my son's speech getting

better. I was just too close to the situation. It wasn't until a few weeks, he

was playing with my dad, who commented afterward how much my son was saying.

The thing is, he said just as much then as before, but I guess I was the only

one understanding him

Ask a neighbor or teacher how his speech is. And yay on a bit more

communication!!

Liralen

>

> My son has been on NV for almost 2 months now. He's 5 and a half, diagnosed

with autism, apaxia, hypotonia.... I do believe his speech is slowly

increasing. But he's not gaining any weight. He's in the 2%, weighing only

33lbs. Should I increase his dosage from 2 scoops per day? Maybe this would

help his size and development.

>

> thank you,

> Nadia

>

June 26, 2010

Nadia it's best to work with your child's doctor about dosage. The product is

100 percent water soluble and yes there are many doctors both alternative and

traditional that are increasing the dosages beyond what I have here

http://pursuitofresearch.org/faq.html#dosage For example your doctor may say to

gradually increase to another scoop -but he's also going to know you and your

son to know if there is enough hydration going on because we know water intake

is important for nutriiveda too. Good thing is that most MDs would have trouble

monitoring changes other than parent input -but with nutriiveda the surges are

in almost all cases so sudden and dramatic in so many areas that it's notable

even by professionals that don't see your child week to week like SLPs do. But

yes there are a few parents using 3 scoops instead of 2 with a child your

child's age...or at least two heaping scoops.

Nadia what other food is your son eating daily breakfast, lunch, dinner other

than nutriiveda? Does he drink water? For some reason again as I stated above

hydration is so important... water and nutriiveda seem to work hand in hand

together.

And one other thought -while we have few if any cases of nutriiveda not

" working " - there are reports like yours where the progress is there but slower.

There could be reasons for this. I love Gretchen's theory as to why as you can

read here (toward bottom) http://pursuitofresearch.org/science.html

=====

June 28, 2010

thanks for the input, . My son drinks only water, and I think it's enough

throughout the day. Besides that, it's mostly breads and cheese. (noodles,

quesadillas, bagels, pb & j, raisins, mac and cheese). I had him gfcf for an

entire year, and saw initial gains, but he did ok when I slowly weaned him back

to his regular diet (I was worried about his lack of weight gain and

self-limited food choices). I have a really hard time getting him to eat

anything else. I have to give him the NV in a syringe.

He is a great, loving boy, but I'm worried about his speech, potty training and

basic learning and attention skills. Believe me, he's come along way with

everything we've done, but I know he has more to go. I just have to figure out

what can help him.

Nadia

>

> Nadia it's best to work with your child's doctor about dosage. The product is

100 percent water soluble and yes there are many doctors both alternative and

traditional that are increasing the dosages beyond what I have here

http://pursuitofresearch.org/faq.html#dosage For example your doctor may say to

gradually increase to another scoop -but he's also going to know you and your

son to know if there is enough hydration going on because we know water intake

is important for nutriiveda too. Good thing is that most MDs would have trouble

monitoring changes other than parent input -but with nutriiveda the surges are

in almost all cases so sudden and dramatic in so many areas that it's notable

even by professionals that don't see your child week to week like SLPs do. But

yes there are a few parents using 3 scoops instead of 2 with a child your

child's age...or at least two heaping scoops.

>

> Nadia what other food is your son eating daily breakfast, lunch, dinner other

than nutriiveda? Does he drink water? For some reason again as I stated above

hydration is so important... water and nutriiveda seem to work hand in hand

together.

>

> And one other thought -while we have few if any cases of nutriiveda not

" working " - there are reports like yours where the progress is there but slower.

There could be reasons for this. I love Gretchen's theory as to why as you can

read here (toward bottom) http://pursuitofresearch.org/science.html

>

> =====

>

June 28, 2010

It is very encouraging to see how our kids are doing on NV.

Here is our update on Sweet Pea. She has been on NV for just over one month.

We are seeing an increase in listening to music with some humming on her own. We

use a website with slow music for ESL children called:

www.supersimplesongs.com.

There are videos to go along with them on youtube.com. She is almost singing one

of the songs. Some of it is speaking rather than singing but that is an

improvement.

Her imaginative play is increasing (it was virtually non-existent). She has even

begun to make up a song and dance. She set up chairs in a row in the living room

for a pretend choo-choo, then she put her babies/animals on the seats and said

" all aboard " .

She is in a growth spurt.

She is saying new words and, more importantly, she is beginning to initiate

conversation. IE: she was disappointed that the rides at WalMart were moved out

of the store during their remodeling. She came home and said: Wahmah no have

ha-ha (her word for horse). Previously, she would not have told me anything

about the event, having forgotten about it by the time she got home, let along

mention the store by name!

She is putting herself on the school bus. More independent things are also new.

On the negative side: there is increased naughtiness and she is more easily

distracted when told to do something. Instead of one distraction, it can be more

like five or six distractions for one event/task.

She has not seen her speech therapist for most of the last month for a variety

of reasons. We were anxious to see her today for her opinion.

Therapist usually has to backtrack numerous lessons if she misses just one

lesson. After one month on NV, she DID NOT HAVE TO BACKTRACK AT ALL. She

continued right where they had left off. She was very impressed with that. Her

oral motor skills were great today.

Blessings,

Sandy

June 29, 2010

Congrats Sandy!

[ ] Re: NV update

It is very encouraging to see how our kids are doing on NV.

Here is our update on Sweet Pea. She has been on NV for just

over one month.

We are seeing an increase in listening to music with some

humming on her own. We use a website with slow music for ESL children

called: www.supersimplesongs.com.

There are videos to go along with them on youtube.com. She is

almost singing one of the songs. Some of it is speaking rather than

singing but that is an improvement.

Her imaginative play is increasing (it was virtually

non-existent). She has even begun to make up a song and dance. She set

up chairs in a row in the living room for a pretend choo-choo, then she

put her babies/animals on the seats and said " all aboard " .

She is in a growth spurt.

She is saying new words and, more importantly, she is beginning

to initiate conversation. IE: she was disappointed that the rides at

WalMart were moved out of the store during their remodeling. She came

home and said: Wahmah no have ha-ha (her word for horse). Previously,

she would not have told me anything about the event, having forgotten

about it by the time she got home, let along mention the store by name!

She is putting herself on the school bus. More independent

things are also new.

On the negative side: there is increased naughtiness and she is

more easily distracted when told to do something. Instead of one

distraction, it can be more like five or six distractions for one

event/task.

She has not seen her speech therapist for most of the last month

for a variety of reasons. We were anxious to see her today for her

opinion.

Therapist usually has to backtrack numerous lessons if she

misses just one lesson. After one month on NV, she DID NOT HAVE TO

BACKTRACK AT ALL. She continued right where they had left off. She was

very impressed with that. Her oral motor skills were great today.

Blessings,

Sandy

June 29, 2010

Sandy this is such an incredible update on Sweet Pea!! Would you mid if we put

some of it up at http://pursuitofresearch.org/testimonials.html to share with

others not in this private group?

I have a message from you below from when you were just started your 6 year old

on nutriiveda -and you had a bunch of questions. I'm curious if you would be

willing to answer the questions you asked back then to help others (have them

below) For example you don't note any hyperactivity -but increase in sassiness

or naughtiness (but I think of it as a sign of increased

confidence/independence. A good thing really but needs some strong parenting to

keep it in check) Did you split the dosage in half or give it all at once? And

can I add are you using a level or heaping scoop because most of us start level

and go to heaping What is Sweet Pea's favorite way of eating it -in drink or

with food and what flavor? What is Sweet Pea's diagnosis?

You know what I'm most excited about...I have seen if myself that the kids on

nutriiveda are advancing far quicker than their peers in academics. Don't be

shocked if by the time the school year starts in the Fall you are looking at a

completely different type of child...closer what would be the " norm " or as time

continues on -above average in areas. That's what I'm seeing and this is mind

blowing isn't it? It's not till people try it that they understand why I'm so

excited about this -I have never seen anything else like this work for everyone,

or pretty much close to 100 percent...it doesn't even seem possible.

Yay for Sweet Pea for all her new progress and Yay for you Sandy for being out

of the box and trying something new that isn't just therapeutic but an extremely

healthy source of whole food essential nutrients too. (which funny enough was

the original purpose, not the therapeutic part!!)

Here's your blast from the past message from last month:

Re: NutriiVeda questions for those with experience

>

> We have started our 6 yo on NutriiVeda. I have not been able to read through

the 90000+ messages here but I have found out that she needs to be taking 2

scoops a day. Do I have to split those up or can I give them to her in the AM?

What are the benefits of splitting a dose? When do you give the second dose?

>

> I see that many children have hyperactivity when they start NutriiVeda. Is

this from caffeine in the chocolate or does vanilla cause the same reaction? How

long does this hyperactivity last before the behavior levels out once again? If

you miss a dose, do you see this at start up again?

>

> What have you had success with mixing NutriiVeda in? Anyone tried filtered

water? What about juice? If you use yogurt, do you stir it in or 'blend' it?

>

> Am I understanding that you discontinue other nutrients when you use the

NutriiVeda?

>

> Thanks for all your input.

> Blessings

> Sandy

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

=====

February 23, 2011

,

That is amazing! In my clients that are taking NV, we have seen gross motor

surges 1st and then fine motor and then speech. This makes sense because that

is how development occurs---gross motor (i.e. crawling, walking, climbing) then

fine motor (i.e scribbling, coloring, taking off/putting on clothes) & then

speech.

So, continue the NV and look for small oral motor (i.e. tongue/jaw/lip movements

she hasn't done before) & /or speech play

(i.e. any sound play). Awesome!!

Warmest wishes,

Barbara

Barbara A. , M.S., CCC-SLP

CEO/ Help Me Speak, LLC

<http://www.helpmespeak.com/> http://www.helpmespeak.com

(o) 410-442-9791 (f) 410-442-9783

2500 Wallington Way; Suite 103

Marriottsville, MD 21104

Call me with any questions about NutriiVeda!

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of

gottlieb_michelle@...

Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 6:59 PM

Apraxia Group

Subject: [ ] NV update

We have been giving my 2 1/2 year old son, Logan, NV for just about one

month now. We give him one very heaping scoop per day. I mix a good amount

of it with his oatmeal in the morning and the rest in his milk cups

throughout the day. He will only tolerate a little in his milk at a time, so

I spread it out.

We have seen some changes in his ability to imitate movement. He dances

along with The Wiggles songs. It is so cute and amazing to see!! He is also

climbing in his Gymboree class with a little more confidence. He would

rarely even attempt to climb before and now he is more interested. He still

needs help but at least he is trying!!

We have not seen any changes in speech or any other areas. He is still

nonverbal.

So we are now going to start ProEFA, one capsule per day. I was considering

increasing his NV dosage, but since he is only 2 1/2 I'm not sure how much

more NV we can actually give him??

Overall we are thrilled and hoping speech comes next!

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

February 23, 2011

This is the order we have seen surges with my son who will be four in April.

He is just now starting to talk more and more and repeat more and more words

since the first of the year. I attribute it to being on NV and Coromega

since April of 2010, speech therapy, PPCD and the iPad. All of them have

helped but the NV and fish oils really helped with his focus and his

receptive language understanding because super obvious to us shortly after

starting NV and fish oils.

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Barbara <helpmespeak@...>wrote:

>

> ,

>

> That is amazing! In my clients that are taking NV, we have seen gross motor

> surges 1st and then fine motor and then speech. This makes sense because

> that is how development occurs---gross motor (i.e. crawling, walking,

> climbing) then fine motor (i.e scribbling, coloring, taking off/putting on

> clothes) & then speech.

>

> So, continue the NV and look for small oral motor (i.e. tongue/jaw/lip

> movements she hasn't done before) & /or speech play

> (i.e. any sound play). Awesome!!

>

> Warmest wishes,

>

> Barbara

>

> Barbara A. , M.S., CCC-SLP

> CEO/ Help Me Speak, LLC

> <http://www.helpmespeak.com/> http://www.helpmespeak.com

> (o) 410-442-9791 (f) 410-442-9783

> 2500 Wallington Way; Suite 103

> Marriottsville, MD 21104

>

> Call me with any questions about NutriiVeda!

>

> From:

> [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

> gottlieb_michelle@...

> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 6:59 PM

> Apraxia Group

> Subject: [ ] NV update

>

> We have been giving my 2 1/2 year old son, Logan, NV for just about one

> month now. We give him one very heaping scoop per day. I mix a good amount

> of it with his oatmeal in the morning and the rest in his milk cups

> throughout the day. He will only tolerate a little in his milk at a time,

> so

> I spread it out.

> We have seen some changes in his ability to imitate movement. He dances

> along with The Wiggles songs. It is so cute and amazing to see!! He is also

> climbing in his Gymboree class with a little more confidence. He would

> rarely even attempt to climb before and now he is more interested. He still

> needs help but at least he is trying!!

>

> We have not seen any changes in speech or any other areas. He is still

> nonverbal.

>

> So we are now going to start ProEFA, one capsule per day. I was considering

> increasing his NV dosage, but since he is only 2 1/2 I'm not sure how much

> more NV we can actually give him??

>

> Overall we are thrilled and hoping speech comes next!

>

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

February 23, 2011

This is SO encouraging,even though my ped (well known decent one!) said to not

continue NV, i am going to put my son back on. Thanks Barbara for reporting what

you see in your clients..yet are there some that DO NOT respond? And what is the

longest it may take?

Ivy

On Feb 23, 2011, at 8:19 PM, Stilwell <shannonstilwell@...> wrote:

> This is the order we have seen surges with my son who will be four in April.

> He is just now starting to talk more and more and repeat more and more words

> since the first of the year. I attribute it to being on NV and Coromega

> since April of 2010, speech therapy, PPCD and the iPad. All of them have

> helped but the NV and fish oils really helped with his focus and his

> receptive language understanding because super obvious to us shortly after

> starting NV and fish oils.

>

> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Barbara

<helpmespeak@...>wrote:

>

> >

> > ,

> >

> > That is amazing! In my clients that are taking NV, we have seen gross motor

> > surges 1st and then fine motor and then speech. This makes sense because

> > that is how development occurs---gross motor (i.e. crawling, walking,

> > climbing) then fine motor (i.e scribbling, coloring, taking off/putting on

> > clothes) & then speech.

> >

> > So, continue the NV and look for small oral motor (i.e. tongue/jaw/lip

> > movements she hasn't done before) & /or speech play

> > (i.e. any sound play). Awesome!!

> >

> > Warmest wishes,

> >

> > Barbara

> >

> > Barbara A. , M.S., CCC-SLP

> > CEO/ Help Me Speak, LLC

> > <http://www.helpmespeak.com/> http://www.helpmespeak.com

> > (o) 410-442-9791 (f) 410-442-9783

> > 2500 Wallington Way; Suite 103

> > Marriottsville, MD 21104

> >

> > Call me with any questions about NutriiVeda!

> >

> > From:

> > [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

> > gottlieb_michelle@...

> > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 6:59 PM

> > Apraxia Group

> > Subject: [ ] NV update

> >

> > We have been giving my 2 1/2 year old son, Logan, NV for just about one

> > month now. We give him one very heaping scoop per day. I mix a good amount

> > of it with his oatmeal in the morning and the rest in his milk cups

> > throughout the day. He will only tolerate a little in his milk at a time,

> > so

> > I spread it out.

> > We have seen some changes in his ability to imitate movement. He dances

> > along with The Wiggles songs. It is so cute and amazing to see!! He is also

> > climbing in his Gymboree class with a little more confidence. He would

> > rarely even attempt to climb before and now he is more interested. He still

> > needs help but at least he is trying!!

> >

> > We have not seen any changes in speech or any other areas. He is still

> > nonverbal.

> >

> > So we are now going to start ProEFA, one capsule per day. I was considering

> > increasing his NV dosage, but since he is only 2 1/2 I'm not sure how much

> > more NV we can actually give him??

> >

> > Overall we are thrilled and hoping speech comes next!

> >

> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

> >

February 23, 2011

Ivy honestly the only time I heard of any pediatrician not approving NV was when

we first started and we didn't have the information up on the site to explain it

http://pursuitofresearch.org/find-a-professional/ Knowledgeable about

nutrition medical doctors are those that are able to look at the ingredients and

determine it's OK even without the info above...which is why I encourage you to

seek a second opinion. We've heard from one of the country's top medical

doctors in neurology " this is a very impressive good product and I can see why

it's working based on the ingredients " And while it's recommended by every top

medical organization, there are still those pediatricians who don't recommend

giving a child fish oil. I mean sure you could give that preschool child a

bottle of baby formula instead to get about the same dosage of EFAs as a capsule

of ProEFA -but I just don't see that happening.

As all nutrients in NV are from foods that have been used for thousands of years

with no known side effects and hundreds of clinical studies to validate the

importance of each, I am curious exactly which food in NV your pediatrician

doesn't approve of? Call him back and ask him if it's OK if you give your child

Carnation Instant Breakfast. Just curious if that would be fine.

The theories in the blogs at http://www.pursuitofresearch.org are based on

cutting edge research where leading scientists today are learning and validating

the links between good health and good nutrition. There is the trickle down

effect that eventually all doctors will learn what the leading ones are

teaching.

As far as percentage of kids this works for I'd like to hear from you Barbara

too! What percentage of your clients does NV work for?

I wish other SLPs would write here as well more. There are other SLPs that have

written here about their clients as well, some of those professional reports are

up on this page

http://pursuitofresearch.com/2010/11/22/is-nutriiveda-creating-a-paradigm-shift-\

in-treatment-of-speech-impairments/ But Sharon's SLP has yet to write about her

experience and I know that Sharon's son alone was one of her clients before

Sharon moved...and speaking of Sharon (if you are reading this!!)

I put the videos of that amazing 5 year old on my fb page saying " if only all

children could speak this well " and put a mock warning that those of younger

apraxic children are not allowed to watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rbMHLDY1pA & feature=player_embedded

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_525660 & v=oVoR_ZMPgVE & featu\

re=iv

Sharon from our group commented -and I said " Sharon you weren't supposed to

watch this! Or is it getting closer with NV progress? "

And Sharon answered " Hey ! I know, but I couldn't help myself. IS

getting closer with NV progress. I've got some more footage that I'll be posting

soon. We're finally feeling settled and I am due with baby #3 in 6 weeks so just

when we get things under control we'll be out of control again, but such is

life.

is doing INCREDIBLE. No one here in CO even knows he has apraxia or a

speech disorder. When I told our newer friends they were shocked. We definitely

still have a ways to go with ST, but he's not standing out among his peers. He's

probably one of the more social kids in class even. It's just crazy. We really

have no major worries at this point in life, in regards to Ry.

Hope to chat soon! "

So Sharon we are all looking forward to seeing the new video updates of !!

There are a handful that report NV didn't work -but it seems pretty rare. Based

on feedback through our survey it appears that NV is working on a multitude of

conditions, ages and areas http://pursuitofresearch.org/pursuit-of-research/

which tells me it's linked to some essential nutrient or nutrients that is

filling in a blank. In comparison to fish oils -another essential nutrient,

some experts like Dr. Stordy who I heard at one conference put fish oil's

effectiveness at around 80 percent. We know that NV is effective in some of

those that had no results on fish oils and it seems almost always it works. I'd

say somewhere between 80 and 100 percent chance it will work -and most likely

dramatic.

Barbara what the success rate you are noting in your clients?

And even though most of us see dramatic surges in days, there are some who note

improvements over months. , who's message is below was at first upset

because she didn't believe they were seeing the same surges in her son that

others were writing about here.

- your message about your son in this regard is such a well written example

it's the perfect archive to show there is more than one way to have an amazing

surge!

Progress in 9 months time..... AMAZING

<>

luvmykids8233

Hi all-

A 4 day holiday weekend.... that included a break in all activities, school, and

even my Son's Speech therapy, has caused me to have extra time to go through a

huge pile of old " Mini DV Tapes " from our camcorder- to simply label what was on

each of them. The pile of " non labelled tapes was really bothering me.... it

was nice to finally take the time to label what was on them!

I found the old tape, where I recoreded my son BEFORE NV last Feb..... I also

saw the numerous videos of him that I recorded of him in the next few weeks. My

Son was 35 months old when he started NV.... he is now 44 months old. I tried to

take time to post these videos on You Tube.... but was not able to have

success... the tapes were stored... but not forgotten!

I wanted to discuss some of my feelings/observations after seeing these videos

as follows:

1. My Son has a diagnosis of moderate to severe Apraxia.... (I feel that he

leans more toward the Severe end).. When we started NV, I think that I expected

a MIRACLE.... and it did not occur....I was too emotional with worry over my

son's condition to even notice the small changes that occurred within 2 weeks

after NV! Looking at all of these videos with a CLEARER MIND made me see that

there WERE CLEAR DIFFERENCES! My parents even noticed the differences when

watching the videos! My son seemed much more focused after the second week of

NV. He also went through the typical " hyper stage " that some of our kids do--

but not in a bad way..... he simply was babbling more.... and trying harder to

use " word approximations " ... which was good! (He barely made any sounds at all

prior to NV.....to even get him to TRY to verbalize a " word approximation " was

very hard back then). The increase in babbling was a GOOD thing.... think about

it..... he had delays.... and he HAD to go through the babbling stage before

attempting to master actual words. The NV helped him with this... and more and

more " word approximations " started to emerge in the next few months!

2. Last year, I was so consumed with worry- my son had clear delays... he was in

EI--- he soon would be turning age 3....(which to me, meant that he would be

transitioning from EI to a Special Needs Pre K).... all of my energy was taken

up with worry about how my son did not speak.... and how I had to FIND A WAY to

FIGHT the " Special Needs PK School who did NOT believe in 1:1 pull out ST.... I

was too distraught to SEE the changes in my own child! I feel that I had " high

hopes " that he would have an increase in speech abilities (meaning ,to me, the

use of WORDS).... which he did not during the start of NV.... As mentioned in

#1.... the NV assisted with the babbling... which assisted in the development of

" word approximations " and so on....

3. After looking at all of the old videos... and comparing them to even 1 week,

1 month after NV.... all the way up to the present..... it is CLEAR that

SOMETHING DID CHANGE.... FOR THE BETTER! I CAN recall feeling really upset

inside in the past.... because some of the moms who took the time to post

" before and after videos of their children on NV " seemed to have kids who

" seemed to have better Speech abilities than my Son on their BEFORE NV

Videos " ... I was happy for them....(their kid's progress AFTER NV was very

obvious)! I also, felt sad when I compared my son to these other kids.... when

I compared him to them, he seemed to be even more behind in speech to me.... I

can recall feeling quite depressed about this.

4. Months later..... with a clearer mind..... (more time to internally ACCEPT my

Son's Speech Delays- and deal with them from a point of strength)... and also

due to the fact that I DID obtain 1:1 pull out ST at the PK level in my

State.... (Thanks again - for empowering me to achieve this).... I CAN now

see differences.. and will describe them as follows... (Again, We just looked

at a bunch of old videos of our Son.... the differences were CLEAR to us... and

also to our Family Members who watched these with us)....

5). BEFORE NV

- all Baby videos of Tyler show hardly any babbling other than MUM MUM MUM... he

WAS able to create some pretty powerful Raspberries though!

- older videos show clear Sensory Issues starting at age 5 months old.... Ty was

screaming every time he was placed on grass in bare feet, He also had huge

sensory issues at bath time..(it took awhile to get him used to the sensation of

being in water). there were feeding issues (gagging on certain textures) that

continue to this day as well.

SHORTLY BEFORE START OF NV... (age 2 forward).... I seemed to ALWAYS be trying

to get

Tyler to point out his body parts on old videos.... He REALLY could point to his

nose, his mouth, etc.... he just never did it on a video.... I sounded so

pathetic on these videos... I kept asking him to show me his nose.... I kept

asking him to talk to me.... and he appeared to have a blank look on his face as

I did this. He would smile from time to time.... but he also always seemed to

have a " BLANK " expression on his face... and his mouth used to hang open....

His eyes often, had no sparkle.... (my dad used to tell me that he thought

Tyler was autistic during these days).... Tyler always TRIED to be social with

others.... he also loved to hug others.... and he DID know where his nose and

mouth, etc were.... he had " no words " .... but his smiles and hand/arm " gestures "

made up for this. If I asked him " how big are you " ... he would raise his arms

up in the air with a huge grin and say OOO eee (so big). Looking back, it almost

seems like Tyler did not like " being put on the spot " to " talk " ..... in these

old videos..... Tyler was a smart little kid... he started ST with EI at age 20

months.... he used to smile, and place his fingers in his ears when the

therapist tried to work with him. He KNEW that " this speech stuff " was HARD!

- I have a video of Tyler the day before we started NV..... we were going

through home-made " Flash Cards " together (laminated pictures of family members,

favorite toys and pets).... He was very distracted.. and became upset

quickly... He continued to have a " blank expression " .

AFTER NV....

The blank look on his face was gone by the second month after NV.... his FOCUS

improved.... which caused his attention span during his ST sessions to

improve... Speech abilities transitioned from babbling to more word

approximations. the increase in his attention span helped him to get more out of

his ST Sessions! He was able to follow directions better-- and he was more

willing to TRY! We have always loved a " Fun Class for kids " called

Kindermusik.... these classes are offered in most states- and they are awesome!

Prior to NV, Tyler spent his Kindermusik class times trying to crawl toward to

exit door.... NOW- he is engaged, follows directions... and LOVES IT! His

" Words " have increased to the point where he can put together 3 word

sentences..... such as " MUH OWE ON " (My show on)... He started to have an

increased interest in singing this past July for the first time..... If I " sing

simple songs slowly " .... he can follow me! This is the child who seemed to have

zero interest in simple Nursery Rhymes at age 2 and age 3! He will be age 4 in

March.... and, starting about 2 months ago, he is " catching up " to learning all

of those Nursery Rhymes! (He can't sing them like " typical kids do " ).... BUT HE

IS SINGING! It is beautiful!

Have to include this.... Ty's version of " Twinkle Twinkle Little Star " ....

EE OHL EE OHL EE- EE ARE... (Twinkle, twinkle little star)

OW AYE WUH OO OW OO ARE. ( how I wondor what you are).. W's are hard- he has

learned to put his hand over his mouth to " make the windy sound " when he

attempts " W's "

U-PAH uh uh WHHH-ole oh AYE! (S sounds are also hard)..

He can spell his name to ther tune of the song " Bingo " now as well... He says

T- AYE - luh - E- R-uh. He can count out objects up to 6.... he can identify

colors... he DANCES! He is drawing the letter " T " correctly-- and often does it

all over my walls in crayon! (I do not like this- but he is so cute.... I ask

" who did this " .... he proudly, responds " ME " .

We are very busy with all of his therapies... and also have a very advanced

older daughter who is a firecracker.... (involved in dancing and acting

classes.. and is doing an amazing job at it at only age 5.8 yrs old)- she talked

early, knew her ABCs early... EVERYTHING she did and still does is EARLY. It is

a CHALLENGE to balance our lives/schedules to meet the needs of these 2

children! We never " pushed " " potty training with Tyler " .... yet, he

essentially, figured it all out on his own by simply trying to copy his older

sister!

In conclusion, I feel that Tyler has come very far in a short time.... and I

BELIEVE that NV has assisted him to do this. We also are giving him the NN Fish

Oils... he takes 2 Pro EFA, and one Pro EPA per day.... (These are huge gel

caps--- I pierce them with a pin- and squirt them into his mouth). HE LOVES

THEM!

PLEASE-- to any of you who doubt NV-- DO NOT GIVE UP if it does not seem to

create " instant miracles " .... MOST people do see immediate changes.... and some

do not... (I fell into this category in my son's case), but if you had the

patience to read my detailed descriptions of how my son was " Prior to NV " ... you

can see that he had SIGNIFICANT Speech Delays! I feel that the NV assisted my

Son to " go through the normal process of achieving developmental milestones that

he was not able to achieve " ...... and CHILDREN MUST go through these milestones,

as part of their development! YES- we all want our children to SPEAK at an age

appropriate level...... when we have kids affected by Apraxia- this DOES NOT

OCCUR! I feel confidant that NV assisted my son to " catch up " .... Yes- his

Speech remains delayed.... but he improves every week! My child is a SMART

kid--- now that he is more focused, and more confidant-- he WANTS to try to talk

MORE! He learned and memorized the entire song " BINGO " during a short drive in

the car (when his older sister, who interrupts him was not present)!

He also has a diagnosis of Hypotonia.... and wore DAFOs (Orthotic Braces) from

age 20 months on to assist with ankle pronation. His braces have been cut down

in size! He can RUN, he can climb!

NV IS HELPING HIM!

=====

February 24, 2011

- I LOVE that you say that if fish oils did not work on children, it does

not mean that NV won't, and that it has an even higher success rate!!

I think we all jave learned that WE as parents sometimes have to take initiative

and teach docs what works..lol, sad but true!

The ped I speak of is huge here, alternative, and totally understands many

biomed treatments, the effects of mercury, the benefits of fish-oils...etc etc.

I hardly had to mention any alternative supplements to him, he seemed up to date

on all. He is almost a DAN doctor, without actually being one.

I think he was just trying to be helpful when he said if it didnt work for us in

our trial stage (which i have to admit was only 2months, slightly more to wk up

to 2scoops) as he held the container, familiar with NV, that we should stop and

not continue. He was saying it has helped a few. Yet, many things that help

children w/apraxia, just have not helped my little guy.

I on the other hand,always second guess doctors ,even thought i may be fond of

the many we see.

i have done plenty for my son to try to help his severe verbal apraxia, and i do

want NV to work. Believe me, when he does start speaking, all will hear what

worked..all of our SLPs, all OTs, all ped docs, all dev peds..etc. Oooo, and do

i want that day to come...i will continue to be hopeful!!!

We start on NV this AM again.

Question is..do i switch to vanilla flavor when finished with chocolate? Are two

scoops enough for at 30lb child, two scoops for a long period of time OR move up

to three or more, since we didnt see anything on two scoops during two month

trial???

Thank you, Ivy

On Feb 24, 2011, at 12:54 AM, " kiddietalk " <kiddietalk@...> wrote:

> Ivy honestly the only time I heard of any pediatrician not approving NV was

when we first started and we didn't have the information up on the site to

explain it http://pursuitofresearch.org/find-a-professional/ Knowledgeable about

nutrition medical doctors are those that are able to look at the ingredients and

determine it's OK even without the info above...which is why I encourage you to

seek a second opinion. We've heard from one of the country's top medical doctors

in neurology " this is a very impressive good product and I can see why it's

working based on the ingredients " And while it's recommended by every top

medical organization, there are still those pediatricians who don't recommend

giving a child fish oil. I mean sure you could give that preschool child a

bottle of baby formula instead to get about the same dosage of EFAs as a capsule

of ProEFA -but I just don't see that happening.

>

> As all nutrients in NV are from foods that have been used for thousands of

years with no known side effects and hundreds of clinical studies to validate

the importance of each, I am curious exactly which food in NV your pediatrician

doesn't approve of? Call him back and ask him if it's OK if you give your child

Carnation Instant Breakfast. Just curious if that would be fine.

>

> The theories in the blogs at http://www.pursuitofresearch.org are based on

cutting edge research where leading scientists today are learning and validating

the links between good health and good nutrition. There is the trickle down

effect that eventually all doctors will learn what the leading ones are

teaching.

>

> As far as percentage of kids this works for I'd like to hear from you Barbara

too! What percentage of your clients does NV work for?

>

> I wish other SLPs would write here as well more. There are other SLPs that

have written here about their clients as well, some of those professional

reports are up on this page

http://pursuitofresearch.com/2010/11/22/is-nutriiveda-creating-a-paradigm-shift-\

in-treatment-of-speech-impairments/ But Sharon's SLP has yet to write about her

experience and I know that Sharon's son alone was one of her clients before

Sharon moved...and speaking of Sharon (if you are reading this!!)

>

> I put the videos of that amazing 5 year old on my fb page saying " if only all

children could speak this well " and put a mock warning that those of younger

apraxic children are not allowed to watch this

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rbMHLDY1pA & feature=player_embedded

> and

>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_525660 & v=oVoR_ZMPgVE & featu\

re=iv

>

> Sharon from our group commented -and I said " Sharon you weren't supposed to

watch this! Or is it getting closer with NV progress? "

>

> And Sharon answered " Hey ! I know, but I couldn't help myself. IS

getting closer with NV progress. I've got some more footage that I'll be posting

soon. We're finally feeling settled and I am due with baby #3 in 6 weeks so just

when we get things under control we'll be out of control again, but such is

life.

>

> is doing INCREDIBLE. No one here in CO even knows he has apraxia or a

speech disorder. When I told our newer friends they were shocked. We definitely

still have a ways to go with ST, but he's not standing out among his peers. He's

probably one of the more social kids in class even. It's just crazy. We really

have no major worries at this point in life, in regards to Ry.

>

> Hope to chat soon! "

>

> So Sharon we are all looking forward to seeing the new video updates of !!

>

> There are a handful that report NV didn't work -but it seems pretty rare.

Based on feedback through our survey it appears that NV is working on a

multitude of conditions, ages and areas

http://pursuitofresearch.org/pursuit-of-research/ which tells me it's linked to

some essential nutrient or nutrients that is filling in a blank. In comparison

to fish oils -another essential nutrient, some experts like Dr. Stordy who I

heard at one conference put fish oil's effectiveness at around 80 percent. We

know that NV is effective in some of those that had no results on fish oils and

it seems almost always it works. I'd say somewhere between 80 and 100 percent

chance it will work -and most likely dramatic.

>

> Barbara what the success rate you are noting in your clients?

>

> And even though most of us see dramatic surges in days, there are some who

note improvements over months. , who's message is below was at first upset

because she didn't believe they were seeing the same surges in her son that

others were writing about here.

>

> - your message about your son in this regard is such a well written

example it's the perfect archive to show there is more than one way to have an

amazing surge!

>

> Progress in 9 months time..... AMAZING

> <>

> luvmykids8233

>

> Hi all-

> A 4 day holiday weekend.... that included a break in all activities, school,

and

> even my Son's Speech therapy, has caused me to have extra time to go through a

> huge pile of old " Mini DV Tapes " from our camcorder- to simply label what was

on

> each of them. The pile of " non labelled tapes was really bothering me.... it

> was nice to finally take the time to label what was on them!

>

> I found the old tape, where I recoreded my son BEFORE NV last Feb..... I also

> saw the numerous videos of him that I recorded of him in the next few weeks.

My

> Son was 35 months old when he started NV.... he is now 44 months old. I tried

to

> take time to post these videos on You Tube.... but was not able to have

> success... the tapes were stored... but not forgotten!

>

> I wanted to discuss some of my feelings/observations after seeing these videos

> as follows:

>

> 1. My Son has a diagnosis of moderate to severe Apraxia.... (I feel that he

> leans more toward the Severe end).. When we started NV, I think that I

expected

> a MIRACLE.... and it did not occur....I was too emotional with worry over my

> son's condition to even notice the small changes that occurred within 2 weeks

> after NV! Looking at all of these videos with a CLEARER MIND made me see that

> there WERE CLEAR DIFFERENCES! My parents even noticed the differences when

> watching the videos! My son seemed much more focused after the second week of

> NV. He also went through the typical " hyper stage " that some of our kids do--

> but not in a bad way..... he simply was babbling more.... and trying harder to

> use " word approximations " ... which was good! (He barely made any sounds at all

> prior to NV.....to even get him to TRY to verbalize a " word approximation " was

> very hard back then). The increase in babbling was a GOOD thing.... think

about

> it..... he had delays.... and he HAD to go through the babbling stage before

> attempting to master actual words. The NV helped him with this... and more and

> more " word approximations " started to emerge in the next few months!

>

> 2. Last year, I was so consumed with worry- my son had clear delays... he was

in

> EI--- he soon would be turning age 3....(which to me, meant that he would be

> transitioning from EI to a Special Needs Pre K).... all of my energy was taken

> up with worry about how my son did not speak.... and how I had to FIND A WAY

to

> FIGHT the " Special Needs PK School who did NOT believe in 1:1 pull out ST....

I

> was too distraught to SEE the changes in my own child! I feel that I had " high

> hopes " that he would have an increase in speech abilities (meaning ,to me, the

> use of WORDS).... which he did not during the start of NV.... As mentioned in

> #1.... the NV assisted with the babbling... which assisted in the development

of

> " word approximations " and so on....

>

> 3. After looking at all of the old videos... and comparing them to even 1

week,

> 1 month after NV.... all the way up to the present..... it is CLEAR that

> SOMETHING DID CHANGE.... FOR THE BETTER! I CAN recall feeling really upset

> inside in the past.... because some of the moms who took the time to post

> " before and after videos of their children on NV " seemed to have kids who

> " seemed to have better Speech abilities than my Son on their BEFORE NV

> Videos " ... I was happy for them....(their kid's progress AFTER NV was very

> obvious)! I also, felt sad when I compared my son to these other kids.... when

> I compared him to them, he seemed to be even more behind in speech to me.... I

> can recall feeling quite depressed about this.

>

> 4. Months later..... with a clearer mind..... (more time to internally ACCEPT

my

> Son's Speech Delays- and deal with them from a point of strength)... and also

> due to the fact that I DID obtain 1:1 pull out ST at the PK level in my

> State.... (Thanks again - for empowering me to achieve this).... I CAN now

> see differences.. and will describe them as follows... (Again, We just looked

> at a bunch of old videos of our Son.... the differences were CLEAR to us...

and

> also to our Family Members who watched these with us)....

>

> 5). BEFORE NV

> - all Baby videos of Tyler show hardly any babbling other than MUM MUM MUM...

he

> WAS able to create some pretty powerful Raspberries though!

> - older videos show clear Sensory Issues starting at age 5 months old.... Ty

was

> screaming every time he was placed on grass in bare feet, He also had huge

> sensory issues at bath time..(it took awhile to get him used to the sensation

of

> being in water). there were feeding issues (gagging on certain textures) that

> continue to this day as well.

>

> SHORTLY BEFORE START OF NV... (age 2 forward).... I seemed to ALWAYS be trying

> to get

> Tyler to point out his body parts on old videos.... He REALLY could point to

his

> nose, his mouth, etc.... he just never did it on a video.... I sounded so

> pathetic on these videos... I kept asking him to show me his nose.... I kept

> asking him to talk to me.... and he appeared to have a blank look on his face

as

> I did this. He would smile from time to time.... but he also always seemed to

> have a " BLANK " expression on his face... and his mouth used to hang open....

> His eyes often, had no sparkle.... (my dad used to tell me that he thought

> Tyler was autistic during these days).... Tyler always TRIED to be social with

> others.... he also loved to hug others.... and he DID know where his nose and

> mouth, etc were.... he had " no words " .... but his smiles and hand/arm

" gestures "

> made up for this. If I asked him " how big are you " ... he would raise his arms

> up in the air with a huge grin and say OOO eee (so big). Looking back, it

almost

> seems like Tyler did not like " being put on the spot " to " talk " ..... in these

> old videos..... Tyler was a smart little kid... he started ST with EI at age

20

> months.... he used to smile, and place his fingers in his ears when the

> therapist tried to work with him. He KNEW that " this speech stuff " was HARD!

>

> - I have a video of Tyler the day before we started NV..... we were going

> through home-made " Flash Cards " together (laminated pictures of family

members,

> favorite toys and pets).... He was very distracted.. and became upset

> quickly... He continued to have a " blank expression " .

>

> AFTER NV....

> The blank look on his face was gone by the second month after NV.... his FOCUS

> improved.... which caused his attention span during his ST sessions to

> improve... Speech abilities transitioned from babbling to more word

> approximations. the increase in his attention span helped him to get more out

of

> his ST Sessions! He was able to follow directions better-- and he was more

> willing to TRY! We have always loved a " Fun Class for kids " called

> Kindermusik.... these classes are offered in most states- and they are

awesome!

> Prior to NV, Tyler spent his Kindermusik class times trying to crawl toward to

> exit door.... NOW- he is engaged, follows directions... and LOVES IT! His

> " Words " have increased to the point where he can put together 3 word

> sentences..... such as " MUH OWE ON " (My show on)... He started to have an

> increased interest in singing this past July for the first time..... If I

" sing

> simple songs slowly " .... he can follow me! This is the child who seemed to

have

> zero interest in simple Nursery Rhymes at age 2 and age 3! He will be age 4 in

> March.... and, starting about 2 months ago, he is " catching up " to learning

all

> of those Nursery Rhymes! (He can't sing them like " typical kids do " ).... BUT

HE

> IS SINGING! It is beautiful!

>

> Have to include this.... Ty's version of " Twinkle Twinkle Little Star " ....

> EE OHL EE OHL EE- EE ARE... (Twinkle, twinkle little star)

> OW AYE WUH OO OW OO ARE. ( how I wondor what you are).. W's are hard- he has

> learned to put his hand over his mouth to " make the windy sound " when he

> attempts " W's "

> U-PAH uh uh WHHH-ole oh AYE! (S sounds are also hard)..

>

> He can spell his name to ther tune of the song " Bingo " now as well... He says

> T- AYE - luh - E- R-uh. He can count out objects up to 6.... he can identify

> colors... he DANCES! He is drawing the letter " T " correctly-- and often does

it

> all over my walls in crayon! (I do not like this- but he is so cute.... I ask

> " who did this " .... he proudly, responds " ME " .

>

> We are very busy with all of his therapies... and also have a very advanced

> older daughter who is a firecracker.... (involved in dancing and acting

> classes.. and is doing an amazing job at it at only age 5.8 yrs old)- she

talked

> early, knew her ABCs early... EVERYTHING she did and still does is EARLY. It

is

> a CHALLENGE to balance our lives/schedules to meet the needs of these 2

> children! We never " pushed " " potty training with Tyler " .... yet, he

> essentially, figured it all out on his own by simply trying to copy his older

> sister!

>

> In conclusion, I feel that Tyler has come very far in a short time.... and I

> BELIEVE that NV has assisted him to do this. We also are giving him the NN

Fish

> Oils... he takes 2 Pro EFA, and one Pro EPA per day.... (These are huge gel

> caps--- I pierce them with a pin- and squirt them into his mouth). HE LOVES

> THEM!

>

> PLEASE-- to any of you who doubt NV-- DO NOT GIVE UP if it does not seem to

> create " instant miracles " .... MOST people do see immediate changes.... and

some

> do not... (I fell into this category in my son's case), but if you had the

> patience to read my detailed descriptions of how my son was " Prior to NV " ...

you

> can see that he had SIGNIFICANT Speech Delays! I feel that the NV assisted my

> Son to " go through the normal process of achieving developmental milestones

that

> he was not able to achieve " ...... and CHILDREN MUST go through these

milestones,

> as part of their development! YES- we all want our children to SPEAK at an age

> appropriate level...... when we have kids affected by Apraxia- this DOES NOT

> OCCUR! I feel confidant that NV assisted my son to " catch up " .... Yes- his

> Speech remains delayed.... but he improves every week! My child is a SMART

> kid--- now that he is more focused, and more confidant-- he WANTS to try to

talk

> MORE! He learned and memorized the entire song " BINGO " during a short drive in

> the car (when his older sister, who interrupts him was not present)!

>

> He also has a diagnosis of Hypotonia.... and wore DAFOs (Orthotic Braces) from

> age 20 months on to assist with ankle pronation. His braces have been cut down

> in size! He can RUN, he can climb!

> NV IS HELPING HIM!

>

> =====

>

February 24, 2011

Of my clients who have tried NV, 100% have had positive changes. I have 1 client

who hasn't been successful in getting her dtr to drink it because her dtr is a

picky eater. IF she were to drink it consistently, I bet she would improve too.

Warmest wishes,

Barbara A , M.S.,CCC-SLP

CEO,

Help Me Speak, LLC

www.helpmespeak.com

2500 Wallington Way

Suite 103

Marriottsville, MD 21104

410-442-9791

Ask me about NutriiVeda!

On Feb 24, 2011, at 7:26 AM, Ivy <ivygreene88@...> wrote:

> - I LOVE that you say that if fish oils did not work on children, it does

not mean that NV won't, and that it has an even higher success rate!!

>

> I think we all jave learned that WE as parents sometimes have to take

initiative and teach docs what works..lol, sad but true!

>

> The ped I speak of is huge here, alternative, and totally understands many

biomed treatments, the effects of mercury, the benefits of fish-oils...etc etc.

I hardly had to mention any alternative supplements to him, he seemed up to date

on all. He is almost a DAN doctor, without actually being one.

>

> I think he was just trying to be helpful when he said if it didnt work for us

in our trial stage (which i have to admit was only 2months, slightly more to wk

up to 2scoops) as he held the container, familiar with NV, that we should stop

and not continue. He was saying it has helped a few. Yet, many things that help

children w/apraxia, just have not helped my little guy.

>

> I on the other hand,always second guess doctors ,even thought i may be fond

of the many we see.

> i have done plenty for my son to try to help his severe verbal apraxia, and i

do want NV to work. Believe me, when he does start speaking, all will hear what

worked..all of our SLPs, all OTs, all ped docs, all dev peds..etc. Oooo, and do

i want that day to come...i will continue to be hopeful!!!

>

> We start on NV this AM again.

> Question is..do i switch to vanilla flavor when finished with chocolate? Are

two scoops enough for at 30lb child, two scoops for a long period of time OR

move up to three or more, since we didnt see anything on two scoops during two

month trial???

>

> Thank you, Ivy

>

> On Feb 24, 2011, at 12:54 AM, " kiddietalk " <kiddietalk@...> wrote:

>

> > Ivy honestly the only time I heard of any pediatrician not approving NV was