Re: NV and other supplements

[Guest guest]

I would like to know this answer too.

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> We have been on NV for about a month with good results. We're also on other

supplements: Methyl B12, CoQ10, NN Ultimate Omega, and Acetyl L-Carnitine. Our

holistic pediatrician had not heard of Nutriiveda, but he thought the nutrients

were safe to combine. I see some amino acids on the NV label, but none that we

are supplementing. I just wanted to see if anyone here heard or thought that you

shouldn't add other supplements while on NV. So far the combination is working

well, but I want to make sure it's safe.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi , there are no known contradictions with nutriiveda however in general

based on feedback it does appear that unless your child is tested to need a

particular nutrient above what is in nutriiveda you may see more dramatic

results with just nutriiveda. The only exception are the fish oils which

contain the essential fatty acids which are not in nutriiveda and appear to

compliment beautifully the essential amino acids and nutrients from whole food

sources in nutriiveda.

Most of us see the surges once we start our child on nutriiveda in one day to

three days. Are you able to stop the other supplements for just a week say and

try nutriiveda alone and see what you notice? You can always add the others

back but you may want to check against the nutrients already in nutriiveda.

(you can check here http://pursuitofresearch.org/ingredients.html ) The

difference between just supplementing individual nutrients vs getting nutrients

from whole food sources is that it's not just getting the child to consume the

nutrients -but knowing the body is able to best utilize/digest it. This is why

whole food sources of nutrients are the purest way of getting nutrients into the

body because they are balanced and contain all that is needed to best help the

body utilize all in it.

With nutriiveda we need to examine the main reasons why we believe it's

" working " I'm thinking two main reasons are probably the essential amino acids

and nutrients from whole food sources -including " slow growing " vegetation.

Putting these together is creating surges we have never seen before with any one

of the ingredients (whey isolate protein or whole food nutrition) taken

independently.

But back to nutrients from slow growing vegetations as found in nutriiveda.

Each ingredient in nutriiveda is certified 100 percent a food by the FDA and is

tested free of any heavy metals, herbicides and pesticides. As you can imagine

there are many things we consume in the way of fresh fruits and vegetables where

we don't know if that's the case.

For all fruits, veggies (including these from the store Whole Foods

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=JQ31Ljd9T_Y has everyone seen this?!!) not

tested today we should be aware of the possibility of lead in regards to any

vegetation because of the following study (from an archive)

" I learned from speaking with one of the first researchers in the lead area that

lead in the soil will be present in all aspects of the vegetation (keep that in

mind when planting tomatoes and perhaps if you live in an area where you are not

sure of what's in the soil planting in a pot with planting soil may be an

option)It's also pretty documented now that at times even low levels (below 10)

can cause IQ changes in children...and " additional increase in blood lead from

10 to 30 micrograms per deciliter is associated with only a small additional

decline in IQ "

" Canfield is a senior research associate at Cornell's Division of

Nutritional Sciences (Photo courtesy Cornell) " In this sample of children we

find that most of the damage to intellectual functioning occurs at blood lead

concentrations that are below 10 micrograms per deciliter, " said

Canfield of the Division of Nutritional Sciences at Cornell University and

primary author on the study.

The amount of impairment attributed to lead exposure was much greater

than the researchers had expected, and they found that the amount of

impairment attributed to lead was most pronounced at lower levels.

An additional increase in blood lead from 10 to 30 micrograms per

deciliter is associated with only a small additional decline in IQ,

the scientists discovered.'

http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/apr2003/2003-04-16-03.asp

It's extremely difficult as well to find a 100 percent casein free whey- you

just can't walk into a store and purchase something like that either. But again

we know it's not the whey alone anyway due to the amount that had their child on

whey isolate for months or years prior to nutriiveda, some reported some surges,

and then with dramatic surges on nutriiveda. Is it the turmeric/curcumin which

accelerates what's needed as it does other things as is written on the parent

doctor theory page here http://pursuitofresearch.org/science.html

But after saying all of that- honestly nobody knows for sure yet why this

particular blend of product is creating the dramatic surges across the board.

For sure you don't need any multi with it. But being there are so many

nutrients in it and all from whole food sources, again the purest form -again

I'd say to stop whatever is not medical necessary and just give it a shot for a

week. Ask your holistic ped if that's OK. Again can always add the others back

if needed.

Again NV is working pretty much for all -and with the basics of good hydration

and some added fish oils- that's it.

Hope that helps!

=====

[Guest guest]

I think you are not supposed to combine other curcumin...we are on Enhansa (

from lee silsby) and it says not to take curcumin from other sources while

taking Enhansa.

>

> Hi , there are no known contradictions with nutriiveda however in

general based on feedback it does appear that unless your child is tested to

need a particular nutrient above what is in nutriiveda you may see more dramatic

results with just nutriiveda. The only exception are the fish oils which

contain the essential fatty acids which are not in nutriiveda and appear to

compliment beautifully the essential amino acids and nutrients from whole food

sources in nutriiveda.

>

> Most of us see the surges once we start our child on nutriiveda in one day to

three days. Are you able to stop the other supplements for just a week say and

try nutriiveda alone and see what you notice? You can always add the others

back but you may want to check against the nutrients already in nutriiveda.

(you can check here http://pursuitofresearch.org/ingredients.html ) The

difference between just supplementing individual nutrients vs getting nutrients

from whole food sources is that it's not just getting the child to consume the

nutrients -but knowing the body is able to best utilize/digest it. This is why

whole food sources of nutrients are the purest way of getting nutrients into the

body because they are balanced and contain all that is needed to best help the

body utilize all in it.

>

> With nutriiveda we need to examine the main reasons why we believe it's

" working " I'm thinking two main reasons are probably the essential amino acids

and nutrients from whole food sources -including " slow growing " vegetation.

Putting these together is creating surges we have never seen before with any one

of the ingredients (whey isolate protein or whole food nutrition) taken

independently.

>

> But back to nutrients from slow growing vegetations as found in nutriiveda.

Each ingredient in nutriiveda is certified 100 percent a food by the FDA and is

tested free of any heavy metals, herbicides and pesticides. As you can imagine

there are many things we consume in the way of fresh fruits and vegetables where

we don't know if that's the case.

>

> For all fruits, veggies (including these from the store Whole Foods

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=JQ31Ljd9T_Y has everyone seen this?!!) not

tested today we should be aware of the possibility of lead in regards to any

vegetation because of the following study (from an archive)

>

> " I learned from speaking with one of the first researchers in the lead area

that lead in the soil will be present in all aspects of the vegetation (keep

that in mind when planting tomatoes and perhaps if you live in an area where you

are not sure of what's in the soil planting in a pot with planting soil may be

an option)It's also pretty documented now that at times even low levels (below

10) can cause IQ changes in children...and " additional increase in blood lead

from 10 to 30 micrograms per deciliter is associated with only a small

additional decline in IQ "

>

> " Canfield is a senior research associate at Cornell's Division of

Nutritional Sciences (Photo courtesy Cornell) " In this sample of children we

find that most of the damage to intellectual functioning occurs at blood lead

concentrations that are below 10 micrograms per deciliter, " said

Canfield of the Division of Nutritional Sciences at Cornell University and

primary author on the study.

>

> The amount of impairment attributed to lead exposure was much greater

> than the researchers had expected, and they found that the amount of

> impairment attributed to lead was most pronounced at lower levels.

>

> An additional increase in blood lead from 10 to 30 micrograms per

> deciliter is associated with only a small additional decline in IQ,

> the scientists discovered.'

> http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/apr2003/2003-04-16-03.asp

>

> It's extremely difficult as well to find a 100 percent casein free whey- you

just can't walk into a store and purchase something like that either. But again

we know it's not the whey alone anyway due to the amount that had their child on

whey isolate for months or years prior to nutriiveda, some reported some surges,

and then with dramatic surges on nutriiveda. Is it the turmeric/curcumin which

accelerates what's needed as it does other things as is written on the parent

doctor theory page here http://pursuitofresearch.org/science.html

>

> But after saying all of that- honestly nobody knows for sure yet why this

particular blend of product is creating the dramatic surges across the board.

For sure you don't need any multi with it. But being there are so many

nutrients in it and all from whole food sources, again the purest form -again

I'd say to stop whatever is not medical necessary and just give it a shot for a

week. Ask your holistic ped if that's OK. Again can always add the others back

if needed.

>

> Again NV is working pretty much for all -and with the basics of good hydration

and some added fish oils- that's it.

>

> Hope that helps!

>

> =====

>

[Guest guest]

We've been on the Ultimate Omega for more than a year. And the other

supplements, based on blood and urine tests, for several months. NV is our

newest addition, and we've seen some pretty cool gains. I'll have to post NV

updates in another message.

I didn't know about the curcumin and Enhansa. See, that's why I love this group!

Thank you for all of your feedback.

> >

> > Hi , there are no known contradictions with nutriiveda however in

general based on feedback it does appear that unless your child is tested to

need a particular nutrient above what is in nutriiveda you may see more dramatic

results with just nutriiveda. The only exception are the fish oils which

contain the essential fatty acids which are not in nutriiveda and appear to

compliment beautifully the essential amino acids and nutrients from whole food

sources in nutriiveda.

> >

> > Most of us see the surges once we start our child on nutriiveda in one day

to three days. Are you able to stop the other supplements for just a week say

and try nutriiveda alone and see what you notice? You can always add the others

back but you may want to check against the nutrients already in nutriiveda.

(you can check here http://pursuitofresearch.org/ingredients.html ) The

difference between just supplementing individual nutrients vs getting nutrients

from whole food sources is that it's not just getting the child to consume the

nutrients -but knowing the body is able to best utilize/digest it. This is why

whole food sources of nutrients are the purest way of getting nutrients into the

body because they are balanced and contain all that is needed to best help the

body utilize all in it.

> >

> > With nutriiveda we need to examine the main reasons why we believe it's

" working " I'm thinking two main reasons are probably the essential amino acids

and nutrients from whole food sources -including " slow growing " vegetation.

Putting these together is creating surges we have never seen before with any one

of the ingredients (whey isolate protein or whole food nutrition) taken

independently.

> >

> > But back to nutrients from slow growing vegetations as found in nutriiveda.

Each ingredient in nutriiveda is certified 100 percent a food by the FDA and is

tested free of any heavy metals, herbicides and pesticides. As you can imagine

there are many things we consume in the way of fresh fruits and vegetables where

we don't know if that's the case.

> >

> > For all fruits, veggies (including these from the store Whole Foods

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=JQ31Ljd9T_Y has everyone seen this?!!) not

tested today we should be aware of the possibility of lead in regards to any

vegetation because of the following study (from an archive)

> >

> > " I learned from speaking with one of the first researchers in the lead area

that lead in the soil will be present in all aspects of the vegetation (keep

that in mind when planting tomatoes and perhaps if you live in an area where you

are not sure of what's in the soil planting in a pot with planting soil may be

an option)It's also pretty documented now that at times even low levels (below

10) can cause IQ changes in children...and " additional increase in blood lead

from 10 to 30 micrograms per deciliter is associated with only a small

additional decline in IQ "

> >

> > " Canfield is a senior research associate at Cornell's Division of

Nutritional Sciences (Photo courtesy Cornell) " In this sample of children we

find that most of the damage to intellectual functioning occurs at blood lead

concentrations that are below 10 micrograms per deciliter, " said

Canfield of the Division of Nutritional Sciences at Cornell University and

primary author on the study.

> >

> > The amount of impairment attributed to lead exposure was much greater

> > than the researchers had expected, and they found that the amount of

> > impairment attributed to lead was most pronounced at lower levels.

> >

> > An additional increase in blood lead from 10 to 30 micrograms per

> > deciliter is associated with only a small additional decline in IQ,

> > the scientists discovered.'

> > http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/apr2003/2003-04-16-03.asp

> >

> > It's extremely difficult as well to find a 100 percent casein free whey- you

just can't walk into a store and purchase something like that either. But again

we know it's not the whey alone anyway due to the amount that had their child on

whey isolate for months or years prior to nutriiveda, some reported some surges,

and then with dramatic surges on nutriiveda. Is it the turmeric/curcumin which

accelerates what's needed as it does other things as is written on the parent

doctor theory page here http://pursuitofresearch.org/science.html

> >

> > But after saying all of that- honestly nobody knows for sure yet why this

particular blend of product is creating the dramatic surges across the board.

For sure you don't need any multi with it. But being there are so many

nutrients in it and all from whole food sources, again the purest form -again

I'd say to stop whatever is not medical necessary and just give it a shot for a

week. Ask your holistic ped if that's OK. Again can always add the others back

if needed.

> >

> > Again NV is working pretty much for all -and with the basics of good

hydration and some added fish oils- that's it.

> >

> > Hope that helps!

> >

> > =====

> >

[Guest guest]

" NV is our newest addition, and we've seen some pretty cool gains. I'll have to

post NV updates in another message. "

Hi again ,

Yes would love to hear your update since starting NV!

If you are using any nutritional product today other than NV make sure they are

tested free of heavy metals, pesticides and herbicides- especially if it

contains turmeric (which contains the curcumin) If there is lead in the soil

it will be in every aspect of the vegetation and turmeric/curcumin is from slow

growing vegetation as I talk about here

http://pursuitofresearch.org/science.html ...yes nutriiveda contains

turmeric/curcumin as just one of the many great foods ..but each and every whole

food ingredient in NV is tested free of heavy metals, pesticides and herbicides,

and again the product has the most powerful endorsement in the industry.

Below is one article on this and below that info on purity testing for both

Nordic as they just sent me an email update on the purity of their fish oils

(essential fatty acids) and NV (two brands I give my kids)

Many Supplements Said to Contain Toxins, Make False Health Claims

Report to Congress comes ahead of expected changes to oversight of supplement

industry

-- Margaret Steele

Report to Congress comes ahead of expected changes to oversight of supplement

industry.

WEDNESDAY, May 26 (HealthDay News) -- A Congressional investigation of dietary

herbal supplements has found trace amounts of lead, mercury and other heavy

metals in nearly all products tested, plus myriad illegal health claims made by

supplement manufacturers, The New York Times reported Wednesday.

The levels of heavy metal contaminants did not exceed established limits, but

investigators also discovered troubling and possibly unacceptable levels of

pesticide residue in 16 of 40 supplements, the newspaper said.

One ginkgo biloba product had labeling claiming it could treat Alzheimer's

disease (no effective treatment yet exists), while a product containing ginseng

asserted that it can prevent both diabetes and cancer, the report said.

Steve Mister, president of the Council for Responsible Nutrition, a trade group

that represents the dietary supplement industry, said it was not surprising that

herbal supplements contained trace amounts of heavy metals, because they are

routinely found in soil and plants. " I dont think this should be of concern to

consumers, " he told the Times.

The report findings were to be presented to the Senate on Wednesday, two weeks

before discussion begins on a major food safety bill that will likely place more

controls on food manufacturers, the Times said. The newspaper said it was given

the report in advance of the Senate hearing.

How tough the bill will be on supplement makers has been the subject of much

lobbying, but the Times noted that some Congressional staff members doubt

manufacturers will find it too burdensome.

At least nine misleading health claims were noted in the report, which was

prepared by the Government Accountability Office (GAO). These claims included

assurances that the products could cure diseases, such as diabetes, Alzheimer's

disease and cancer, investigators said. In one instance, a salesperson claimed

that a garlic supplement could replace blood pressure drugs, the Times reported.

Products that purport to treat or relieve disease must go through strict reviews

because they are considered drugs by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.

The oversight of supplements has improved in recent years, said Sen. Herb Kohl

(D-Wisconsin), who will preside over Wednesday's hearing. However, the FDA needs

the authority and tools to ensure that dietary supplements are as safe and

effective as is widely perceived by the Americans who take them, he told the

Times.

One witness scheduled to testify, Dr. Tod man, president of

ConsumerLab.com, said supplements with too little of the indicated ingredients

and those contaminated with heavy metals are the major problems. In testing more

than 2,000 dietary supplements from some 300 manufacturers, his lab has found

that one in four has quality problems, the Times said.

According to the newspaper's account, the proposed food safety bill could

require that supplement manufacturers register annually with the FDA and permit

the agency to recall potentially dangerous supplements.

It's estimated that half of adult Americans take vitamin supplements regularly,

and about a quarter take herbal supplements at least occasionally. Annual sales

are about $25 billion a year, the Times said.

More information

There's more on the oversight of dietary supplements at the U.S. Food and Drug

Administration.

SOURCE: May 26, 2010, The New York Times

Copyright @2010 HealthDay. .

http://health.msn.com/medications/articlepage.aspx?cp-documentid=100259610

Hi, .

Nordic Naturals is pleased to announce its participation in the Emerson Quality

Program, having been awarded the status of gold level partner. In a time when

supplements are coming under fire for environmental contaminants, marketing hype

and “less than truthful” reporting of product ingredients, Nordic Naturals

continues to demonstrate its leadership with regards to the highest quality

standards for fish oil. Voluntarily, Nordic Naturals has consistently exceeded

all industry and medicinal standards available, setting an example for both the

retail and professional channels of distribution.

Please read the complete press release below my signature.

Should you have any questions or needs around Nordic Naturals, please don’t

hesitate to contact me for photos, product, information or “direct connect” to

one of our experts!

Thanks,

shari

Nordic Naturals® Professional Exclusive Division Announces Gold Partner Status

with Emerson Quality Program (SM) (EQP)

ville, CA (June 30, 2010) Nordic Naturals Professional Exclusive Division

announced today the company’s participation as a gold level partner in the

Emerson Quality ProgramSM, a voluntary, one-of-a-kind quality assurance program

for the nutritional supplements industry which provides practitioners with

manufacturer-specific information to assist in confidently recommending the

highest quality products to their patients. Participating manufacturers that

meet or exceed Emerson Ecologics’ rigorous quality standards are awarded the

distinction of EQP Partner in one of three designations (Partner, Silver Partner

or Gold Partner) after careful and comprehensive evaluation of quality

manufacturing practices.

Nordic Naturals was awarded the EQP Gold Partner level, the highest rating

available, which includes the following standards and requirements:

1. Compliance with current GMPs, acceptable third party audit, raw material

supplier qualification and raw material testing for identity and purity as

evidenced on CoA.

2. Use of most appropriate testing methodologies, potency testing and a

validated risk-based approach to testing adulterants and contaminants

3. Testing of every batch for identity, potency, microbiological and other

applicable contaminants, a stability program in place, plus demonstrated

evidence of research and product development, clinical trial support and

sustainable environmental practices.

According to Lise Alschuler, ND, FABNO, and VP of Quality and Education at

Emerson Ecologics, “Nordic Naturals has established itself as a leader in

quality standards for fish oil. With its impressive list of completed and

in-progress clinical trials as well as their consistent testing of each batch of

raw material and finished product, we are very pleased to extend the gold status

recognition to this company.”

“As part of our mission, Nordic Naturals emphasizes the critical need for

quality to be verified through third party assessment and we are deeply

appreciative of Emerson Ecologics’ new program. Working together as partners, we

are ensuring important quality measures for our practitioners and their

patients,” announced Wellise, Nordic Naturals Professional Exclusive

Division Sales Manager.

Emerson Ecologics, LLC is the leading provider of products and services to the

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from hundreds of industry leading manufacturers to naturopathic doctors,

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Since 1995, Nordic Naturals has been the industry leader in fish oil

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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

NutriiVeda is a refreshing 100%-natural high quality protein that combines a

proprietary blend of 7 Ayurvedic botanicals along with over 22 vitamins and

minerals from whole food sources, 100% water soluble fiber, and ALL the

essential amino acids per serving, replacing the need for a multi vitamin.

(Essential means your body can't assimilate it so needs to consume it, but many

don't eat healthy enough) The scientifically proven ingredients in NutriiVeda

have been shown to support the metabolic system and is casein, gluten, sodium,

caffeine and fat free and contains no preservatives.

Each ingredient in NutriiVeda is certified as food and tested FREE of any heavy

metals, pesticides or herbicides, specifically formulated and endorsed by world

renowned medical doctors.

http://pursuitofresearch.org/ingredients.html

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