Guest guest Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 My son has apraxia and is on the autism spectrum. We started using it because it is easy for kids to learn, it is a way for them to start communicating and studies show it does help them learn to talk. It is a way everyone knows what the child wants, some people don't know sign language but they can look at a picture and figure out just what the child wants. I think our son was 2 1/2 or 3 when he started, he can now make sentences and more words expressively have started coming in, now he rarely uses it, he tries to say what he wants. In a message dated 9/28/2009 3:58:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, lucy2max@... writes: hello- wanted to know who is using this system and why? what made you decide to start it? Is it hard or take time for the child to learn? what is a good age to start? what is too young? did your child succeeded w/signing..are you doing PECS and signing? I really appreciate the input, my child is 25 months and has JUST started to get signing a little- he has motor planning issues and all signs end up looking similar to him. I was thinking to continue- that signing is exercising his motor planning issues- maybe?? Our SLP suggested PECS a month ago, and I passed, now again, she is asking if I want to start. My son has few sounds and approximations for words, sorta, and if he says a clear word- he most likely won't say it again! I don't know! If anyone can give me guidance- thanks! Iveta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 Our son's therapists use PECS but we have never used it much at home. Instead I taught him to read, starting at age 3. I used the Glenn Doman books (How To Teach Your Baby To Read, How To Give Your Child Encyclopedic Knowledge, What To Do About Your Brain-Injured Child, etc). It is an easy method (though time-consuming in making the materials, but fun!) and it works! You start with the words that are in his world " cup, bed, car, Mommy, " and go from there. As our son learned the words and I had them velcroed on a board, he would go get the word and bring it to me to express what he wanted. I always thought it was more practical than PECS because if I wasn't sure what he wanted but had some idea, I would write the words in a list and he would point to the one that he was trying to communicate. With the PECS drawings it's not so easy to make such a list! I didn't exactly answer your question, I realize. Just put in a plug for TEACH YOUR CHILD TO READ! Oh, and since our son is completely non-verbal it has been key to his being able to catch on to computer games and to learn more words. He is now learning to spell (very slowly) using his Alpha-smart laptop. (ny, almost 12) > > hello- wanted to know who is using this system and why? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 My daughter's ABA therapist suggested it this Spring and we decided to give it a try. is 4 1/2 and we have been doing sign language with her since she has been one. She can get her point across in sign and has finally started speaking single words this year but we did still decide to start the PECS mainly because it will give her another way to communicate, especially in situations like daycare where nobody knows sign. She loves using the pictures to communicate and I believe it has expanded her communications skills and reduced her frustrations. I am glad we started it. It is not hard to learn at all. Not sure what a good age is, I guess any age would be good to start as long as you are willing to try. Especially with your child not being able to sign consistently it would give him or her a way to communicate which is so important. I would give it a try. My daughter uses PECS mostly in school and daycare and sign and speech at home. Anja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 , that is a great idea. You could write the words on the pecs pictures also. But teaching them to read is very important. Once they can read and write they have another way to communicate. My daughter pretty much taught herself how to read. I think through watching signing times she learned on her how since they put the words on the screen with the signs. Anja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 wow, that's great that you taught your son to read like that!! The pecs pictures are quite easy to find though. There are a bunch of free sites where you can print off what you need. The other reason pecs is good (not as good as reading though!) is that when a child enters pre-school or kindergarten, the schools like to use pecs as a visual schedule as well as a means of communication. By their hooks, they could put a sentence like strip that shows  " coat off " " indoor shoes on " , " backpack on hook " ect. These are a great tool to show the kids (all kids) what the routine for the day will be. You really don't need an expensive program like boardmaker, the free stuff is just as good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 I think PECS is good, as you wrote, for showing the schedule for the day. Our therapists use this. We have our son at home for ST each morning 8-12, two therapists come on different days. We live in Costa Rica and he does not attend school. I took on the project of " teaching him to read " because I was on my own for his therapy. Now I'm so glad I did it, and, like I said, it was fun to do! (ny almost 12, nonverbal) > > wow, that's great that you taught your son to read like that!! > > The pecs pictures are quite easy to find though. There are a bunch > of free sites where you can print off what you need. The other reason > pecs is good (not as good as reading though!) is that when a child enters > pre-school or kindergarten, the schools like to use pecs as a visual > schedule as well as a means of communication. By their hooks, they could > put a sentence like strip that shows  " coat off " " indoor shoes on " , " backpack on hook " > ect. These are a great tool to show the kids (all kids) what the routine for > the day will be. > You really don't need an expensive program like boardmaker, the free stuff is > just as good. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 thank you for everyone for saying how good PECS is for the child. I think I will give it another serious thought and perhaps start in a month or so. Where can I find the free downloads to make these cards and such? thanks! Iveta > > My daughter's ABA therapist suggested it this Spring and we decided to give > it a try. is 4 1/2 and we have been doing sign language with her > since she has been one. She can get her point across in sign and has finally > started speaking single words this year but we did still decide to start the > PECS mainly because it will give her another way to communicate, especially > in situations like daycare where nobody knows sign. She loves using the > pictures to communicate and I believe it has expanded her communications > skills and reduced her frustrations. I am glad we started it. It is not hard > to learn at all. Not sure what a good age is, I guess any age would be good > to start as long as you are willing to try. Especially with your child not > being able to sign consistently it would give him or her a way to > communicate which is so important. I would give it a try. My daughter uses > PECS mostly in school and daycare and sign and speech at home. > Anja > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 just google " free pecs symbols " and you'll get a bunch of sites. you might like one site better than an other, or take some pecs from 10 different sites. I have a little laminating machine at home (walmart) so i can cut out and laminate as many as i can get in a sheet and then cut from there. hth sandy ________________________________ From: lucy4gets <lucy2max@...> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 10:04:17 AM Subject: [ ] Re: PECS- questions  thank you for everyone for saying how good PECS is for the child. I think I will give it another serious thought and perhaps start in a month or so. Where can I find the free downloads to make these cards and such? thanks! Iveta > > My daughter's ABA therapist suggested it this Spring and we decided to give > it a try. is 4 1/2 and we have been doing sign language with her > since she has been one. She can get her point across in sign and has finally > started speaking single words this year but we did still decide to start the > PECS mainly because it will give her another way to communicate, especially > in situations like daycare where nobody knows sign. She loves using the > pictures to communicate and I believe it has expanded her communications > skills and reduced her frustrations. I am glad we started it. It is not hard > to learn at all. Not sure what a good age is, I guess any age would be good > to start as long as you are willing to try. Especially with your child not > being able to sign consistently it would give him or her a way to > communicate which is so important. I would give it a try. My daughter uses > PECS mostly in school and daycare and sign and speech at home. > Anja > __________________________________________________________________ The new Internet Explorer® 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads./ca/internetexplorer/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Hi Iveta, I HIGHLY recommend looking into PECS. My son also has motor planning issues (dyspraxia), so all of his sign language looks the same! I don't think 25 months is too young. You can start with the basics and things he would understand and really like. At 3.5 yo we are doing " sentences " with PECS. It has helped tremendously with his frustration. If your son has good receptive language, he will probably pick up PECS pretty quickly. If you have any questions please e-mail me! :-) imcaligal@... Jenna Weil Orange County, CA --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Iveta- I have to say that I'm actually surprised that you haven't started the PECS with him already-- because he's the perfect candidate for it. I have heard only GREAT things coming from parents of those who have tried this sort of system, and I think your son would do wonderfully with it. Becky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 thanks Becky! I was going to start at the end of the month (wanted to see if I can get some more signing learned) and what-do-you-know..our fabulous SLP, who knew I was up in the air with it- started!!!!!! Then afterwards she asked how I felt about it and if I want to continue. Well, I guess a little push was good! She is good- so I trust it will work out..well I do have doubts my son will have the ability to communicate in any way- even PECS. But we are going to put 100% effort into and push those doubts away and make it work. My son is not good with pointing to exactly what he wants-yet he can point, he can't sign spontaneously for what he wants-yet he knows a few signs, he prefers to meltdown and have ME figure it out(what he wants)!! Iveta > > Iveta- > > I have to say that I'm actually surprised that you haven't started the > PECS with him already-- because he's the perfect candidate for it. I have > heard only GREAT things coming from parents of those who have tried this sort > of system, and I think your son would do wonderfully with it. > > Becky > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Jenn, glad to hear my son isn't the only one who can't sign! his motor planning is way off- but only for signing and verbal language..he can do peg boards, shape sorters, color, paint and other fine motor skill things..so I don't get it!! Can you explain this a bit to me? why? Yes, my son has very good receptive language. What do you mean start with " the basics " - we are using pics of his favorite items so he can ask for them- is this ok? Does he eventually have to move on the a " generic " picture board so all can communicate across the board- let's say if he goes to preschool..he will have to understand their pictures and use it- instead of his own homemade board/pictures? When are verbs added? alongside nouns? or later? thanks!! Iveta > > Hi Iveta, > > I HIGHLY recommend looking into PECS. My son also has motor planning issues (dyspraxia), so all of his sign language looks the same! I don't think 25 months is too young. You can start with the basics and things he would understand and really like. > At 3.5 yo we are doing " sentences " with PECS. It has helped tremendously with his frustration. If your son has good receptive language, he will probably pick up PECS pretty quickly. If you have any questions please e-mail me! :-) > imcaligal@... > > Jenna Weil > Orange County, CA > > --- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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