Anti-Oxidants, Natural or Commercial??

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In a message dated 2/12/02 8:21:13 PM EST, gowatson@... writes:

<< Here are the ORAC results for 100 g (3 1/2 oz) of various foods:

Prunes 5,770

Raisins 2,830

Blueberries 2,400

Blackberries 2,036

Kale 1,770

Strawberries 1,540

Spinach 1,260

Raspberries 1,220

Brussels Sprouts 980

Plums 949

Alfalfa Sprouts 930

Broccoli Flowers 890

Beets 840

Oranges 750

Red Grapes 739

Red Bell Pepper 710

Onions 450

Corn 400

>>

Sadly, due to my son's food sensitivities and phenol and sulfur restrictions,

I only see three foods on this list he can eat - and only one of those three

that he will eat

Debbie

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Re: [ ] Anti-Oxidants, Natural or Commercial??

> Sadly, due to my son's food sensitivities and phenol and sulfur restrictions,

> I only see three foods on this list he can eat - and only one of those three

> that he will eat

Hi Debbie,

Which are?

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Good health & long life,

Greg ,

http://optimalhealth.cia.com.au

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The ORAC of Intgris Corporation's Nutra Juice TM fruit capsule is 1845.69

umole/g and the Vegetable capsule is 1061.82 umole/g. Maybe he'll like them.

The best antioxidant ounce-for-ounce is Microhydrin (silica hydride with an

extra electron on the hydrogen atoms), which will also regenerate

glutathione, the body's ONLY natural antioxidant and detoxifier.

Glutathione is created from precursors like raw whey and some other raw

foods. Immunocal is the undenatured whey specifically mentioned in the US

Physician's Desk Reference (prescription version) for this purpose. It is

also used in the energy cycle and in the immune system.

ciao

Duncan

Subject: Re: Anti-Oxidants, Natural or Commercial??

In a message dated 2/12/02 8:21:13 PM EST, gowatson@...

writes:

<< Here are the ORAC results for 100 g (3 1/2 oz) of various foods:

Prunes 5,770

Raisins 2,830

Blueberries 2,400

Blackberries 2,036

Kale 1,770

Strawberries 1,540

Spinach 1,260

Raspberries 1,220

Brussels Sprouts 980

Plums 949

Alfalfa Sprouts 930

Broccoli Flowers 890

Beets 840

Oranges 750

Red Grapes 739

Red Bell Pepper 710

Onions 450

Corn 400

>>

Sadly, due to my son's food sensitivities and phenol and sulfur

restrictions,

I only see three foods on this list he can eat - and only one of those three

that he will eat

Debbie

[Guest guest]

Hi All,

Interesting bit of research from Tuffs University where they measured the

anti-oxidant capability of various natural

anti-oxidant rich foods against commercial anti-oxidants:

=========================

http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/qtr/q499/hn499.htm

Chances are you'll get more antioxidant protection from eating fresh fruits and

vegetables than from taking natural

product supplements claiming to be potent antioxidants.

That's according to analyses of 46 commercial preparations by the ORAC assay.

ORAC—short for " oxygen radical absorbance capacity " —measures the ability of a

chemical or biological sample to disarm

oxygen free radicals that can cause wear and tear on the body's DNA and cell

parts.

ARS researchers found the total antioxidant capacity of 40 berry-based

supplements ranged from 16 to 3,985 ORAC units—a

249-fold difference.

The supplements tested included bilberry, cranberry, chokeberry, and elderberry

extracts.

Six other antioxidant products having grape seed or pine bark extracts or

pycnogenol ranged from 16 to 8,392 ORAC

units—a 525-fold difference.

The findings remind consumers that there are no industry standards for the

antioxidant capacity of natural product

supplements and thus little assurance of a high-quality product.

The researchers point out that a single serving of fresh or freshly cooked

fruits or vegetables supplies an average of

300 to 400 ORAC units.

Many fruits and vegetables—such as berries, plums, oranges, leafy greens, and

beets—provide much higher antioxidant

levels.

By contrast, 28 of the 40 berry extracts tested and one of the 6 other products

wouldn't provide 300 ORAC units in a

day's suggested intake.

Mayer USDA Human Nutrition Research Center on Aging at Tufts University,

Boston, MA

L. Prior/Guohua Cao, (617) 556-3311/(617) 556-3141, prior@.../

cao_am@...

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Here are the ORAC results for 100 g (3 1/2 oz) of various foods:

Prunes 5,770

Raisins 2,830

Blueberries 2,400

Blackberries 2,036

Kale 1,770

Strawberries 1,540

Spinach 1,260

Raspberries 1,220

Brussels Sprouts 980

Plums 949

Alfalfa Sprouts 930

Broccoli Flowers 890

Beets 840

Oranges 750

Red Grapes 739

Red Bell Pepper 710

Onions 450

Corn 400

In my morning smoothie I use:

1/2 cup blueberries (75 g & 1,800 Orac units)

1/2 cup strawberries (72 g & 1,108 Orac units)

10 prunes (84 g & 4,846 Orac units)

1/2 banana

1 kiwi fruit

1 tablespoon ground flax (Omega 3 LNA & fiber)

3 tablespoons whey protein powder

1/2 cup coconut milk or 1/2 cup soy milk with 1 tablespoon VCNO.

615 cals, 7,754 Orac units, fantastic taste, all natural, nutrient / enzyme rich

& not a bad breakfast!

Detailed nutrient analysis:

Dr. Walford's Interactive Diet Planner

Calories 615.71 __cal

Protein 7.781 __gm

Total Fat 25.746 __gm

Sat. Fat 21.607 __gm

Mono. Fat 1.454 __gm

Poly. Fat 0.849 __gm

Carbs 102.69 __gm

Fiber 25.894 __gm

Chol 0.261 __mg

Vit. A 1946.9 __IU

Vit. B6 0.785 __mg

Vit. B12 0.217 __mcg

Vit. C 134.08 __mg

Vit. E 30.187 __mg

Thiamine 0.238 __mg

Folacin 78.784 __mcg

Riboflavin 0.496 __mg

Niacin 3.592 __mg

Panto 1.732 __mg

Calcium 279.64 __mg

Copper 0.878 __mg

Iron 6.811 __mg

Magnesium 157.82 __mg

Manganese 1.666 __mg

Phosphorus 355.29 __mg

Potassium 1743.5 __mg

Selenium 11.662 __mcg

Sodium 111.71 __mg

Zinc 2.024 __mg

Isoleucine 0.275 __gm

Threonine 0.285 __gm

Tryptophan 0.117 __gm

Cystine 0.093 __gm

Methionine 0.093 __gm

Valine 0.356 __gm

Leucine 0.531 __gm

Phenyl 0.321 __gm

Lysine 0.441 __gm

Tyrosine 0.198 __gm

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Good health & long life,

Greg ,

http://optimalhealth.cia.com.au

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In a message dated 2/13/02 2:37:05 AM EST, gowatson@... writes:

<< > Sadly, due to my son's food sensitivities and phenol and sulfur

restrictions,

> I only see three foods on this list he can eat - and only one of those

three

> that he will eat

Hi Debbie,

Which are?

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Good health & long life,

Greg , >>

He would love any of the fruits on the list, but all are high in phenols and

becomes extremely hyperactive when eating highly phenolic foods. Red pepper

is also phenolic. Corn also makes him hyperactive. I've never used kale, so

can't honestly say he wouldn't eat it, but he's not terribly receptive to new

foods. Guess I can try, though! (Unless kale is high in sulfur, seems to ring

a bell, will have to check.) Onions and broccoli he loves, but they're high

in sulfur, and he does better on low sulfur foods. He will eat fresh spinach

leaves. He won't eat brussel sprouts (are they high sulfur?) or alfalfa

sprouts. As far as beets, I used to make a beet sauce for pasta, but that

involved a lot of onions so have stopped. He won't eat plain beets.

I have been giving a lot of extra Vit. C, Vit. E and milk thistle. What else

can I do to increase his antioxidants?

Thanks,

Debbie

<<Here are the ORAC results for 100 g (3 1/2 oz) of various foods:

Prunes 5,770

Raisins 2,830

Blueberries 2,400

Blackberries 2,036

Kale 1,770

Strawberries 1,540

Spinach 1,260

Raspberries 1,220

Brussels Sprouts 980

Plums 949

Alfalfa Sprouts 930

Broccoli Flowers 890

Beets 840

Oranges 750

Red Grapes 739

Red Bell Pepper 710

Onions 450

Corn 400

>>

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Boy, I'm really new to this....how am I supposed to interpret these

numbers...what do they mean? Please advise. My son is GFCF and very

low phenol. But, still interested in understanding what you are saying

here. thanks.

Jeanne A. Brohart

http://www.autismhelpforyou.com/

TwoTonks@... wrote:

> In a message dated 2/12/02 8:21:13 PM EST,

> gowatson@... writes:

>

> << Here are the ORAC results for 100 g (3 1/2 oz) of various foods:

>

> Prunes 5,770

> Raisins 2,830

> Blueberries 2,400

> Blackberries 2,036

> Kale 1,770

> Strawberries 1,540

> Spinach 1,260

> Raspberries 1,220

> Brussels Sprouts 980

> Plums 949

> Alfalfa Sprouts 930

> Broccoli Flowers 890

> Beets 840

> Oranges 750

> Red Grapes 739

> Red Bell Pepper 710

> Onions 450

> Corn 400

> >>

>

> Sadly, due to my son's food sensitivities and phenol and sulfur

> restrictions,

> I only see three foods on this list he can eat - and only one of those

> three

> that he will eat

>

> Debbie

>

>

[Guest guest]

What does ORAC stand for and what are ORAC results supposed to be?

Grace

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[Guest guest]

Re: [ ] Anti-Oxidants, Natural or Commercial??

> Boy, I'm really new to this....how am I supposed to interpret these

> numbers...what do they mean? Please advise. My son is GFCF and very

> low phenol. But, still interested in understanding what you are saying

> here. thanks.

Hi Jeanne,

The ORAC rating measures a foods natural ability to quench free radicals.

Different foods have different capabilities.

Generally try to eat more of the high ORAC foods. I mix most of the high ORAC

berries into my morning smoothie as this

allows more complete digestion while needing less digestive enzymes.

========================

Good health & long life,

Greg ,

http://optimalhealth.cia.com.au

[Guest guest]

Re: [ ] Anti-Oxidants, Natural or Commercial??

> I have been giving a lot of extra Vit. C, Vit. E and milk thistle. What else

> can I do to increase his antioxidants?

Hi Debbie,

C and E are the main anti-oxidants. Have you tried cod liver oil? It is rich

in both Vit A and Vit D as well as Omega

3 EPA & DHA.

========================

Good health & long life,

Greg ,

http://optimalhealth.cia.com.au

[Guest guest]

Re: [ ] Anti-Oxidants, Natural or Commercial??

> What does ORAC stand for and what are ORAC results supposed to be?

Hi Grace,

Oxygen Radical Absorbance Capacity.

It measures the ability of a food or supplement to quench free radicals. As a

foods calories are what generates free

radicals, the higher a foods ORAC per calorie rating, the more the food will

help your body to control unwanted free

radicals.

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Good health & long life,

Greg ,

http://optimalhealth.cia.com.au

[Guest guest]

<<<

> I have been giving a lot of extra Vit. C, Vit. E and milk thistle. What

else

> can I do to increase his antioxidants?

Hi Debbie,

C and E are the main anti-oxidants. Have you tried cod liver oil? It is

rich in both Vit A and Vit D as well as Omega

3 EPA & DHA.>>>

Without adequate glutathione reserves, the other antioxidants C, E,

pycnogenol, as well as lipoic acid are very limited in function. GSH

recycles them so they can be used more than once.

That's one of the things Linus ing missed. The body's only native

antioxidant.

ciao

Duncan

[Guest guest]

Dear Duncan,

> People taking it never want to stop. That's pretty subjective but

they are

> uniformly getting results.

Please modify your statement. As it is, the above appears to

mean " all people " rather than " some people " or " many " people.

I am aware that this is an easy and common error, but I hope

you will correct it.

For the record, I have taken microhydrin, and no longer do,

hence, I can personally verify that not all people " taking it "

" never want to stop " .

best regards,

Moria

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----- Original Message -----

From: Greg <gowatson@...>

Health Optimal Health & Longevity

<Optimal_Health_and_Longevity >

Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 4:07 PM

Subject: [ ] Anti-Oxidants, Natural or Commercial??

> Hi All,

>

> Interesting bit of research from Tuffs University where they measured the

anti-oxidant capability of various natural

> anti-oxidant rich foods against commercial anti-oxidants:

>

> =========================

> http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/qtr/q499/hn499.htm

> Chances are you'll get more antioxidant protection from eating fresh

fruits and vegetables than from taking natural

> product supplements claiming to be potent antioxidants.

>

> That's according to analyses of 46 commercial preparations by the ORAC

assay.

>

> ORAC—short for " oxygen radical absorbance capacity " —measures the ability

of a chemical or biological sample to disarm

> oxygen free radicals that can cause wear and tear on the body's DNA and

cell parts.

>

> ARS researchers found the total antioxidant capacity of 40 berry-based

supplements ranged from 16 to 3,985 ORAC units—a

> 249-fold difference.

>

> The supplements tested included bilberry, cranberry, chokeberry, and

elderberry extracts.

>

> Six other antioxidant products having grape seed or pine bark extracts or

pycnogenol ranged from 16 to 8,392 ORAC

> units—a 525-fold difference.

>

> The findings remind consumers that there are no industry standards for the

antioxidant capacity of natural product

> supplements and thus little assurance of a high-quality product.

>

> The researchers point out that a single serving of fresh or freshly cooked

fruits or vegetables supplies an average of

> 300 to 400 ORAC units.

>

> Many fruits and vegetables—such as berries, plums, oranges, leafy greens,

and beets—provide much higher antioxidant

> levels.

>

> By contrast, 28 of the 40 berry extracts tested and one of the 6 other

products wouldn't provide 300 ORAC units in a

> day's suggested intake.

>

> Mayer USDA Human Nutrition Research Center on Aging at Tufts

University, Boston, MA

> L. Prior/Guohua Cao, (617) 556-3311/(617) 556-3141,

prior@.../ cao_am@...

> ========================

>

> Here are the ORAC results for 100 g (3 1/2 oz) of various foods:

> , keep in mind that on a per calorie basis kale is tops here. 100

grams of prunes have a hell of a lot more calories than 100 grams of kale or

spinach. So calorie for calorie vegetables are without question your best

bet. You can eat kale and spinach in an unlimited way, whereas prunes and

raisens are so loaded with sugar that they must be limited.

Regards,

Mike

> Prunes 5,770

> Raisins 2,830

> Blueberries 2,400

> Blackberries 2,036

> Kale 1,770

> Strawberries 1,540

> Spinach 1,260

> Raspberries 1,220

> Brussels Sprouts 980

> Plums 949

> Alfalfa Sprouts 930

> Broccoli Flowers 890

> Beets 840

> Oranges 750

> Red Grapes 739

> Red Bell Pepper 710

> Onions 450

> Corn 400

>

> In my morning smoothie I use:

>

> 1/2 cup blueberries (75 g & 1,800 Orac units)

> 1/2 cup strawberries (72 g & 1,108 Orac units)

> 10 prunes (84 g & 4,846 Orac units)

> 1/2 banana

> 1 kiwi fruit

> 1 tablespoon ground flax (Omega 3 LNA & fiber)

> 3 tablespoons whey protein powder

> 1/2 cup coconut milk or 1/2 cup soy milk with 1 tablespoon VCNO.

>

> 615 cals, 7,754 Orac units, fantastic taste, all natural, nutrient /

enzyme rich & not a bad breakfast!

>

> Detailed nutrient analysis:

>

> Dr. Walford's Interactive Diet Planner

>

> Calories 615.71 __cal

> Protein 7.781 __gm

> Total Fat 25.746 __gm

> Sat. Fat 21.607 __gm

> Mono. Fat 1.454 __gm

> Poly. Fat 0.849 __gm

> Carbs 102.69 __gm

> Fiber 25.894 __gm

> Chol 0.261 __mg

> Vit. A 1946.9 __IU

> Vit. B6 0.785 __mg

> Vit. B12 0.217 __mcg

> Vit. C 134.08 __mg

> Vit. E 30.187 __mg

> Thiamine 0.238 __mg

> Folacin 78.784 __mcg

> Riboflavin 0.496 __mg

> Niacin 3.592 __mg

> Panto 1.732 __mg

> Calcium 279.64 __mg

> Copper 0.878 __mg

> Iron 6.811 __mg

> Magnesium 157.82 __mg

> Manganese 1.666 __mg

> Phosphorus 355.29 __mg

> Potassium 1743.5 __mg

> Selenium 11.662 __mcg

> Sodium 111.71 __mg

> Zinc 2.024 __mg

> Isoleucine 0.275 __gm

> Threonine 0.285 __gm

> Tryptophan 0.117 __gm

> Cystine 0.093 __gm

> Methionine 0.093 __gm

> Valine 0.356 __gm

> Leucine 0.531 __gm

> Phenyl 0.321 __gm

> Lysine 0.441 __gm

> Tyrosine 0.198 __gm

>

> ========================

> Good health & long life,

> Greg ,

> http://optimalhealth.cia.com.au

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Re: Re: [ ] Anti-Oxidants, Natural or Commercial??

> C and E are the main anti-oxidants. Have you tried cod liver oil? It is

> rich in both Vit A and Vit D as well as Omega

> 3 EPA & DHA.>>>

>

> Without adequate glutathione reserves, the other antioxidants C, E,

> pycnogenol, as well as lipoic acid are very limited in function. GSH

> recycles them so they can be used more than once.

>

> That's one of the things Linus ing missed. The body's only native

> antioxidant.

Hi Duncan,

Pycnogenol type anti-oxidants also recycles Vit C, which recycles Vit E.

http://st14./lib/networkantioxidants/antioxidantnetwork.htm

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Good health & long life,

Greg ,

http://optimalhealth.cia.com.au