Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 my son is adopted from Texas. He as apraxia. My theory is that his birth-mother was under extreme duress during her pregnancy as she hid the pregnancy from her parents the entire time. As she saw herself showing @ around 7 months - she told her parents she was going to get a summer job in another city. It turns out it was the place where my son was born - they house would-be mothers considering placing their children for adoption. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of easimerm Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 11:55 AM Subject: [ ] What causes apraxia? From all the reading I've done, I know it's a neurological disorder, but do we know what causes it - or what the hypotheses are? I was struck by the responses to my post about my recently adopted son, and a few people chimed in with responses about their adopted kids (I think all from eastern europe) and it made me wonder if there was some connection. I know all kinds of kids have apraxia, but it seems like maybe theres a connection. Beth ps do we know if it's genetic? Is certain ethnicities are more prone? This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential, legally privileged, and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Although this transmission and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by JP Chase & Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates, as applicable, for any loss or damage arising in any way from its use. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Hi Beth, It is funny that you might think thee is a connection with our children being adopted from Eastern Europe. Until today I have not found anyone with an adopted child with Apraxia and I have been on this board for a good year. I was wondering was I the only one with an apraxia child that was adopted/ I am very involved with many families that have come home with kids from Kazahstan and no one that I know has apraxia. My ST say's that true apraxia is pretty rare? My son seems to be a classic oral apraxia kid, from what they tell me and from what I have read. I am trilled more people with adopted kids have chimed in on this group. Thanks and I look forward to chatting soon. Carolyn ________________________________ From: easimerm <easimerm@...> Sent: Tue, October 27, 2009 11:54:58 AM Subject: [ ] What causes apraxia? From all the reading I've done, I know it's a neurological disorder, but do we know what causes it - or what the hypotheses are? I was struck by the responses to my post about my recently adopted son, and a few people chimed in with responses about their adopted kids (I think all from eastern europe) and it made me wonder if there was some connection. I know all kinds of kids have apraxia, but it seems like maybe theres a connection. Beth ps do we know if it's genetic? Is certain ethnicities are more prone? __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 It's oxidative stress--be it physical--from a head trauma--or stroke--can be prebirth, womb constriction (our case), or post birth; or most likely oxidative stress on the brain caused by chemical factors--read--toxicity--which includes foods we are intolerant to--which affect the brain directtly such as gluten/ casein peptides, but also preservatives, pesticides, fungicides, MSG, all that corn syrup in everything we eat that turns out has mercury in it and so on. So toxins aree unfortunately abundent in our environment, they trigger metabolic disorders, enzyme deficiencies which further exacerbate the chronic degenerative/inflammatory process and once the immune system is weakened enough opportunistic infections take over as well, so these kids will have a lot of metabolic/neurological issues to deal with, but increased toxicity is the main culprit and by that I mean toxicity from--chemicals--viruses, bacteria, parasites. We've had all of these, battling our second type of microscopic parasites now since they tend to favor those with gut dysbiosis--no we never had obvious digestive problems either, but she is intolerant to gluten and that is enough to cause the leaky gut. toxins lead to gluten intolerance genes being activated and then the downward vicious cycle begins. And my daughter is just apraxic, not ASD but the same fundamental principles apply. Metabolic disorders trigger genetic mutations that lead to further metabolic disorders and neurological nedocrine/immune dysfunctions. All of these cause oxidative stress on the body, the brain is highly susceptible especially in the young and the old---therefore the abundence of neurological and metabolic disorders among these populations. Best of health, Elena From: easimerm <easimerm@...> Subject: [ ] What causes apraxia? Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 11:54 AM From all the reading I've done, I know it's a neurological disorder, but do we know what causes it - or what the hypotheses are? I was struck by the responses to my post about my recently adopted son, and a few people chimed in with responses about their adopted kids (I think all from eastern europe) and it made me wonder if there was some connection. I know all kinds of kids have apraxia, but it seems like maybe theres a connection. Beth ps do we know if it's genetic? Is certain ethnicities are more prone? ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 My son is not adopted and is of the East Indian origin and has TRUE TRUE APRAXIA confirmed by many different SLPs. True Apraxia is pretty rare from my research and what my SLP have told me. My son is text book case of true Apraxia. Hetal in CA > > From all the reading I've done, I know it's a neurological disorder, but do we know what causes it - or what the hypotheses are? > > I was struck by the responses to my post about my recently adopted son, and a few people chimed in with responses about their adopted kids (I think all from eastern europe) and it made me wonder if there was some connection. > > I know all kinds of kids have apraxia, but it seems like maybe theres a connection. > > Beth > > ps do we know if it's genetic? Is certain ethnicities are more prone? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 My 8dd is not adopted and has True Apraxia. She could not use two-word sentences till she was 5.5 yrs old. She was dx with Hydrocephalus at 6mos old..another Neurological condition, which must be related to her issues. She has a deletion on one of her chromosomes. The Genetics dr in nyc has said that he has seen a connection between the other kids he treats with this type of deletion and a lot of them having True Apraxia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 what is true apraxia? From: hpatel5652 <hpatel5652@...> Subject: [ ] Re: What causes apraxia? Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 11:54 PM My son is not adopted and is of the East Indian origin and has TRUE TRUE APRAXIA confirmed by many different SLPs. True Apraxia is pretty rare from my research and what my SLP have told me. My son is text book case of true Apraxia. Hetal in CA > > From all the reading I've done, I know it's a neurological disorder, but do we know what causes it - or what the hypotheses are? > > I was struck by the responses to my post about my recently adopted son, and a few people chimed in with responses about their adopted kids (I think all from eastern europe) and it made me wonder if there was some connection. > > I know all kinds of kids have apraxia, but it seems like maybe theres a connection. > > Beth > > ps do we know if it's genetic? Is certain ethnicities are more prone? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 I'm curious about the deletion on the chromsome. My son who is 4.5 years old has apraxia and i have been told that his case is the most servere seen in a while be numerous SLP. Noah also has been diagnosised with autism but are now leaning more toward apraxia, SID, and OCD, maybe PDD/NOS. They won't let him lose the autism dx because it is allowing us to get him more help right now and it is really helping him. What is the deletion DD has? Noah has 16p11.2, which is associated with autism at this point. Thank you for you help, ________________________________ From: mosense <mosense@...> Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 6:07:05 AM Subject: [ ] Re: What causes apraxia? � My 8dd is not adopted and has True Apraxia. She could not use two-word sentences till she was 5.5 yrs old. She was dx with Hydrocephalus at 6mos old..another Neurological condition, which must be related to her issues. She has a deletion on one of her chromosomes. The Genetics dr in nyc has said that he has seen a connection between the other kids he treats with this type of deletion and a lot of them having True Apraxia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 The genetics dr said he has seen quite a few children with her deletion that have apraxia or some form of speech delays. The Ped Neurologist who finally gave it a name when she was 4yrs old also said hers was the worst case he had ever seen. It was than that he suggested the augmentive communication. our SD SLP said the same thing when she entered K a year later---that my dd was one of the most severe cases she'd ever seen. As far as keeping the dx of autism to keep services--do you think he is autistic? When my dd entered K the dx she had was severe speech delay. About two school years ago--they changed it on her IEP to Multiple Disabiities--they said they also did it to make sure none of her services could ever be taken away. > > I'm curious about the deletion on the chromsome. My son who is 4.5 years old has apraxia and i have been told that his case is the most servere seen in a while be numerous SLP. Noah also has been diagnosised with autism but are now leaning more toward apraxia, SID, and OCD, maybe PDD/NOS. They won't let him lose the autism dx because it is allowing us to get him more help right now and it is really helping him. What is the deletion DD has? Noah has 16p11.2, which is associated with autism at this point. > > Thank you for you help, > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: mosense <mosense@...> > > Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 6:07:05 AM > Subject: [ ] Re: What causes apraxia? > > � > My 8dd is not adopted and has True Apraxia. She could not use two-word sentences till she was 5.5 yrs old. She was dx with Hydrocephalus at 6mos old..another Neurological condition, which must be related to her issues. She has a deletion on one of her chromosomes. The Genetics dr in nyc has said that he has seen a connection between the other kids he treats with this type of deletion and a lot of them having True Apraxia. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Hi Beth our family came together thru adoption and my children are biologically unrelated. 2 of my 3 kids have speech/language issues. My youngest (whom I joined this board for) is nearly 3. He came home at 7.5 months with a few words (both words started with vowels) in his native language (Korean) and thought we were home-free (he was considered " special needs " due to prematurity, but never thought it was an issue... still dont). I dont really think his prematurity " caused " his challenges. We're working with a dx of " suspected apraxia " . He's made such incredible gains in the 9 months of intense speech, not sure he even looks " apraxic " anymore yet he does qualify to continue therapy in the 3-5 program which means he falls into the bottom 7%. I have given a lot of thought to this. Dont think there's one " right " answer of course. I do believe that children who are adopted have a greater risk for challenges. Reasons: often poor pre-natal or no pre-natal care; birthmother stress during pregnancy; birthmother illnesses/medication during pregnancy; smoking, drinking during pregnancy or prior to knowing about pregnancy; environmental toxins; and the huge piece for many of our children is the disruption in that bond with birthmother and subsequent moves and potential lack of bonding. In our case because of what we'd gone thru with our dd, we delayed (still havent done any) vaccinations yet he got the full bevy in Korea - all the infant, well baby until he came home. Had he been my birth child, those vaccinations would have been heavily delayed and split up. A newborn child does not have the immunity (ESP when stressed, i.e. losing birthmom) to handle those immunizations, not to mention the blood/brain barrier isnt intact in a newborn. Those are *my* feelings and many might disagree. We did start a program of neurological reorganization which I'd hoped we do and do well, but it's an intense program and we didnt follow thru. We may go back to it, as our son def has some anxious attachment issues. The woman who evaluated him felt certain it would address his speech issues as well as anything attachment related (if you want to learn more there's good info on: www.a4everfamily.org...I opted to put the time into speech and for now, glad we did, as he's come soooooooo far (still not intelligible to average person but using 3-4 word sentences... drops end/begin consonants but it's still soooo wonderful to hear him talk.. started with 10 words or so)....Wishing you the best! Leigh > > From all the reading I've done, I know it's a neurological disorder, but do we know what causes it - or what the hypotheses are? > > I was struck by the responses to my post about my recently adopted son, and a few people chimed in with responses about their adopted kids (I think all from eastern europe) and it made me wonder if there was some connection. > > I know all kinds of kids have apraxia, but it seems like maybe theres a connection. > > Beth > > ps do we know if it's genetic? Is certain ethnicities are more prone? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Thanks - very informative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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